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typical of the republican attacks on the poor and the vulnerable because if you have the ways and the means, you'll still be able to get an abortion and already several states including new mexico are bracing for an increase in women from texas seeking the treatment. but if you don't, then you won't. the same republicans in states like texas and florida and other republican led states such as south dakota who are making other decisions to control your health for both men and women like outlawing local mask mandates in schools. essentially taking covid side against the battle in the

pandemic and considering the latest surge in daily new cases, deaths and hospitalizations, it appears they might be succeeding. the same republicans who wage a battle against your voting rights and who continue to wage an attack on the truth. the reason for the campaign against voting rights is, of course, the big lie that the 2020 election was stolen. what you are seeing now from republicans are flat out revisionist lies about the january 6th insurrection and the attack on the u.s. capital. the gop doesn't want you to believe the reality of what you saw with your own eyes just months ago and what you're watching on your screen right now. the gop wants to control you by forcing you to believe the narrative it has created, not the reality as it is. it's important to note that none of this is based on american or for that matter even conservative peninsulaple.

religious freedom was a big deal to conservatives, not these people. they want to impose their religious belief on you. small government that main stay of conservative principles apparently only when they're not in charge. when the gop is in power grab as much control and power as possible to lie since they can't seem to win on the merits any more and to continue as many anti-democratic attacks as possible to ensure continuing power in a changing world. make no mistake about it, this is, in fact, about the gop controlling your life. joining me now is a friend of the show editor at large erin hanes and also msnbc contributor. good morning to you. a sim lirty between what the texas democrats are doing with respect to abortion and what the texas democrats are doing and what they're doing with respect to voting rights.

the concept of control over others. >> happy labor day, ali. happy day. you are hitting on a theme that emerged out of texas and the map showed several states are looking to replicate and that is a couple of things. one, change the rules. you don't like history, rewrite it. if the election didn't go your way, just deny it. but also just the idea that, you know, a minority of americans who don't believe that the election was neither rigged nor stolen. that the majority of americans who believe that people should have safe abortion access. we know most people believe that americans should have the right to vote and to be able to do that efficiently as many americans do and yet people who don't believe that are acting legislatively whether it's poll watchers or precincts or fellow

citizens and neighbors who can turn somebody in and can get $10,000 for their trouble. i mean, that is, you know, something that new in the strategy to kind of change the rules and really encourage not the state to act on your behalf, but encourage regular americans to get involved if something is happening that they don't like. >> a lot of people look at that and say that can't possibly hold and that can't be the way this happens and yet the supreme court failed to stop it from happening. and i don't know how you're seeing this at the 19th and whether you're getting feedback from some of your readers many of whom are young that simply don't believe a world can exist in which a woman does not have a right to an abortion. >> many people living today who were not alive in a country before, people alive today who were not alive in the country before the voting rights act for that matter. also many people who were.

hearing their stories and knowing, you know, what this country could be like in the absence of those federal protections is really why you have these calls for a federal response loud and getting louder. the supreme court side stepped abortion for now. we saw that they have taken even further action to get the voting rights act. so, you know, that is not really the place of re-dress that the majority of americans who voted for things like voting rights for things like abortion access voted for. so that does leave largely questions of what the president and the administration can do. something that we just wrote about at the 19th that they're exploring, for example, on the abortion, the new texas abortion law what really they can do both to assure that texans continue to have access to abortion and also that, you know, what do

they do about the vigil ante nature of this law. taking life and death issues and who gets to exercise their full citizenship in their country. these things should not vary depending which state you live in. >> this article that you have written, one action at the federal level involves the food and drug administration which is in the midst of reviewing restrictions on, i don't know the name of this drug, which is one of the drugs used in the medication induced abortion as a result of an acu lawsuit. that is another part that texas republicans are trying to do, prevent the ability to sell and mail that drug, an abortion drug within texas. >> yes. and we've also written that that fight that is also happening in

the texas legislature and you can be sure that the 19th is going to stay on top of this as it continues to unfold at the local, state and federal level. >> good to see you, errin, thank you for joining us. editor at large and msnbc contributor. joining me now barbara lee of california the chair of the majority leader task force on poverty and opportunity. good to see you this morning. thank you for being with us. i think it's worth understanding that this is an attack on poverty. this is an attack on people of low financial means of low wealth because there are still women who in texas if they need an abortion will find a way to get to another state and it's not ideal and itser not what the constitution says.

for people who can't afford it and many will not realize they're pregnant at that point and this is a direct attack on them very similar to the voting rights attacks we've seen on them. >> thank you, ali. nice to be with you. let me just say this, i co-chair the pro choice caucus with diana degib and we've seen this coming for many, many years. but i also remember the days of abortions and we're not going back. we're not going back. let me say a couple things. this is an issue of racial justice. when you look at the fact that low-income women and lo income people and rural districts that don't have money and won't have access to be able to exercise their full range of reproductive health care, including abortions. and that means annual screenings, we're talking about birth control, pregnancy tests. all the full range of services that people deserve. and so, if you don't have money now under the texas law and if

you can't travel to other states, you're going to be hit, once again, the hardest. it's going to be the most vulnerable. the right to an apportion is a human right. it's a basic right that women and people of color have also. so if they're coming for us now, they're coming for you tomorrow. >> you saw this coming and you and others in congress have been working towards legislation. i spoke to a member of congress yesterday. one of your colleagues who since 2013 have been trying to get a bill through congress to get this done. what in your opinion is the likelihood of that happening. a bill passing the house and then somehow passing the senate that takes abortion out of the realm for the moment of the supreme court and texas and puts it into the realm of federal legislation? >> sure. the public and the majority of voters really support a woman's right to reproductive freedom. the women's health protection act are chaired of the

congression, judy has been working on this for many, many years. she has built over 200 co-sponsors for us to pass this through the house so we can get it into the senate. 47 senators now who are coast sponsors of this bill. so, the house must act and i'm pleased that our speaker really understands the importance and necessity of this. this is an emergency. and so with the public behind us, i'm confident we can get this done. let me say once again the fact that women have the right to control their own lives, their own bodies and make decisions for themselves. this has nothing to do with any other individual interfering in our lives. we have to make sure that this becomes the law. that it also is legislatively put forward through the women's health protection act so that this can happen.

it's critical. and it's an emergency. >> it's unusual in the united states that it's not protected legislatively. was that a mistake or, you know, should we have done something in 50 years to make it legislative as opposed to depend on this roe v. wade which many people thought was solid. conservatives saying, come on, roe v. wade is established law. it is not going away. should this have happened early? >> i believe it should have. when you have a congress that will not move and try to turn the clock back then it becomes a heavy lift. but i think the public now really understands what has been taking place over the years. and that's why passing the women's health protection act is so important. we have to make this the federal law now because we see what is taking place. women are going to die as a result of this texas law. and so we have to pass this. these vigil antes now who can

make money. come on. this is the beginning of a new economic ecosystem. can you imagine what is going to take place. we have to pass this bill and do it immediately. we saw this coming. again, we're prepared and going to move forward and not going to go back. >> in what way do you see this getting through the united states senate. you probably have enough votes for a 50 or 50 plus one. but how do you deal with the filibuster? >> it's going to be the people rising up, once again, and say and demand that we must pass this. i personally support ending the filibuster. as i said, we have about 47 co-sponsors in the senate and no one said it is going to be easy. but, once again, this is an important issue. it's an important issue to the people of color, to communities around the country where there are people who are really in desperate need for access to abortion care. and, so, this is a racial

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tornadoes were decimaing the east coast, a severe drought suffocating parts of the western united states. not only leading to water and food production shortages creating the ideal environment for more wildfires. according to officials on the ground, fires torched more than three times the land burned in the state of california during the same time a year ago. where wildfires have accounted for the destruction of 3,000 homes or structures in 2021 thus far. the caldor fire which prompted a citywide evacuation of south lake tahoe is now 32% contained. firefighters racing around the clock with a battle with an inferno that scorched more than 210,000 acres. nbc news correspondents have been tracking the weather events across the country. josh outside of new orleans and jake ward is in california. he's been covering the caldor fire in lake tahoe all week. josh, let's start with you. power is slowly starting to come back for some people in louisiana.

but still probably three-quarter of a million people or close to that without power seven days after this storm. >> that's right. they could be out of power for a long time, ali, because the largest utility here is predicting they may not have everybody back online until september 29th, possibly even longer. and that's raising some real questions about whether people who are here should maybe get out of the city. with the city now running free buses to people who go to shelters outside of the city because it's one thing to not have power for 24 hours, 48 hours, figure out how you're going to deal with food. it's another thing once this goes on for a week or longer and people are really living in dire situations. so, you have some people who are now coming back to new orleans where their houses are now back with power while others are still trying to figure out how to get out. >> jake ward, you and i spoke earlier this week when you were

at lake tahoe and in all of this grimness and all this realization of the effects of climate change on our daily lives, you brought up a point. you were actually hopeful in the midst of it. you said now that we all have this realization and we're not debating climate change we may have a movement on what we actually do about this, including our relationship with fossil fuels which stokes this. >> well, ali, you know, i think you can look at the numbers. you mentioned one in three americans live in a county that has been affected by climate change at this point. you know, that is, if that's not a ground swell, i don't know what is. you're going to have people like the people that josh has been talking to and the people i've seen literally escape the flames on foot in the lake tahoe region and all those people are represented by an elected official somewhere. those elected officials are dealing with this now. hearing from their constituents

and trying to get them help. all of that can be the beginnings of a ground swell. all the good news, i'm not sure there is good news. we are still in a position as a species to drive this ship. maybe not steer it truly, but nudge it in the right direction when it comes to climate change. still below the 1.5 celsius threshold that everyone has been warning us for years is the one we don't want to go past. it is possible to make that change. but to see people right now as josh is experiencing, stranded without electricity or food. seeing people that i saw literally walking away from the flames on foot. all of that means there is a feeling in america, not just an abstract sense but an immediate crisis that we are in an emergency and we have to do something about it. >> in the part of the country where you are so much prosperity there is in southeastern louisiana and eastern texas,

actually, all over texas is fossil fuels. it's oil. it's chemicals. where this storm made landfall in where the rigs out there come in. the people make their living off of the oildry and it's hard for people to say we need to loosen up our relationship where you're in a place like louisiana where people's paychecks depend on it. >> also complicating people's decisions about whether this is somewhere they want to stay, ali. just overnight we're seeing reports that there is a miles long oil spill off the coast near some of the oil rigs you were just talking about. but the fact of the matter is, this is a place they have invested since hurricane katrina. billions of dollars to fortify the levee system to try to make sure when they do have these types of extreme weather events which we know are going to become increasingly frequent

that they're prepared for them. the interesting thing here is the levees worked here this time around. we didn't have reports of major breaches in new orleans which is one of the reasons that the roads look okay here. but the fact is that water has to go somewhere and we're seeing other areas, particularly to the south and to the southwest of new orleans where they did go over the levees, where they had more flooding that they're used to in the past. we talked to one couple yesterday they said if this happens one more time, they're out of here. they don't want to go through this year after year. other people this is where their livelihoods are particularly with the oil and gas industry are. the government is spending money to say this is not going to be a sustainable place to live and they're going to move the entire village somewhere else where and you can't do that with every single community and creating if you can't harden the

infrastructure everywhere to be able to deal with these extreme weather events, which communities do you save? >> it's hardly the infrastructure against the fires that you were seeing earlier this week. jake, are we making any progress in admitting that it is fossil fuels we're going to have to change our relationship with because while this administration, federal administration is lightyears ahead of the last one, it's still on opec to issue oil outpill. we don't show a sign of lessening our reliance on oil and gas any time soon. >> it is true, ali. not the kind of overnight transformation that you would expect to see. if this was a science fiction movie and a civilization threatened by its own fuel supply, it would change its fuel supply. you're not seeing that as quickly as you can. you are seeing people undo centuries of bad choices. in the lake tahoe region. the region that it burns so badly is that it was, you know,

california has grown in all sorts of plants that weren't there when settlers first arrived and call colinized the . they were cutting out trees that could survive climate change. not climate change itself, but the fires that come with it. they could survive big fires. now we have to somehow redo that ecosystem. we have to replant trees. josh is talking about billion dollars levy systems. we have the systems we know we have to put in place and it is not a marketing campaign from a company that makes that possible. not even the individual choices you and i make. but a huge society wide change to put our thumbs on the scale and try to undo all of that and undoing our dependence on fossil fuel is probably the tallest mountain of all of those to climb. >> thanks to both of you. josh lederman in louisiana and jake ward for us in california. still ahead, the nation is still on its knees from the past year and a half and counting of the coronavirus pandemic.

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traditional supreme court process. the conservative majority allowed a texas law banning abortions after six weeks to stand. the earliest ban in any state and likely that many women do not know they are pregnant at that point. texas is also on the verge of restricting medication abortions, which could be a safe at-home alternative for people who can't get to a clinic. that bill is awaiting the governor's signature and would ban the mailing of abortion pills across the state. these swift and stealthy blows have shocked even advocates who have been long preparing. activist robin marty saying, quote, this was really bad and really unexpected. we thought it would be slower and not really as, all right, we're done. rights are gone. robin marty joins me now. the new handbook for a post-roe america. one of the things about this bill that even members of the supreme court sitting justices

thought was unusual was the meeting out of the enforcement of this to the citizenry. some have described it as vigil ante and energ cencourages peop sue anyone who helped any woman in any way get an abortion. >> right. so, this is different than we've seen in other abortion laws. for people who work at abortion clinics, this is not unusual. when you look at what we're calling the vigil antism of people being able to sue of people getting abortion under this law, in a lot of ways that is what goes on when we have protesters and people watching the clinics to see if they can identify patients who are inside. decide who are the doctors and see if they can try to file lawsuits against them. we often have people who are serving themselves every day in

our clinics and trying to make sure that they can stop abortion from the outside because they haven't been able to completely do it through the legal apparatus. >> but until now, they haven't generally had the veneer of the protection of the law. in texas, now have the encouragement of the law to do those types of things. that has got to endanger everybody in the process not the least are the women seeking reproductive health care but the providers and the doctors and everybody around them. >> most definitely. and i can say just from our own experience here in alabama that we're already seeing an uptick on people who are coming to our clinic. we already see people who are coming closer than they used to. they're not necessarily following the rules as to how far they need to stay away from a clinic. we are, all of our clinics, all clinics, honestly, in the nation are on a high alert because once

you tell a set people of that they are allowed to become the abortion neighborhood watch they're empowered and they'll do it everywhere, not just texas. >> one thing you pointed out on a tweet on september 2nd, you want to stop saying the supreme court will overturn roe v. wade. 13 states where abortion would be immediately illegal right now. and saying so will only make people think it is illegal in more places. this is bad enough on its own. just for our audience, clarify that distinction please. >> sure. so, right now we have a nation of states that we have at least 13 that have what is known as immediate trigger laws. these laws say that as soon as roe v. wade is overturned it will immediately ban and the abortion is completely illegal in the state or the next time the legislature meets it will

say it's completely illegal. make sure people understand this law only affects texas. right now this law only makes it not even illegal but opens up to lawsuits people who provide abortions in texas. if you are somebody out of the state who are offering money to abortion funds to help get people out of texas. that is not illegal. that is not something that is going to get you in trouble. if you are somebody in texas and leaving texas to get an abortion, nobody who helps you is going to get in trouble. going to other states to have abortion, that is still legal. and will remain legal until either roe is officially overturned or something happens next. >> let's say somebody sues an uber driver because uber and lyft said they will provide for the defense of their drivers if they are sued, when a judge looks at that case in texas, do they sit there and say under

this new texas law what you, the uber driver did is illegal or sit there and say there is still roe v. wade and that has not been overturned and we cannot consider this act illegal. what do you think happens to the people who actually gets sued? >> nobody knows. that's the really nefarious part of this law is the fact that it's essentially a way

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as a country we're constantly reminded although we have made significant progress in the journey toward racial equality we are not close to where we should be in bridging the gap between all americans. one particular area that still falls short is higher education. students from historically black colleges and universities make up 25% of all black under graduates who earn degrees in science, technology, engineering, and mathematics and yet the average hbcu endowment is about $12 million while the median endowment for all u.s. colleges is over $65 million. as my next guest puts it, in his new book, black colleges are doing more with way less. joining me now is adam harris a writer at the atlantic and the author of the state must provide. why america's colleges have always been unequal and how to set it right.

adam, good to see you and thank you for joining us. tell me about the implications of what i just told my viewers, that historically black colleges and universities while responsible for a great deal of the educational output of black students in this country don't seem to be able to attract the endowments other schools get. >> fundamentally what that means is that for the history of higher education from the foundations of the higher education system we recognize today until now, there has never been an equalizing mechanism. if you are going back to the foundations of the public higher education system as we recognize it today it was never really built on this idea of equity or equality. in fact, it was built largely on training a white work force. and from that point you've seen an increase stratification in wealth and resources between institutions and it has ramifications for the students the institutions serve.

25% of black stem graduates come from hbcus and also 50% of black lawyers and doctors. 80% of black judges. on top of all of that 60% of the students who attend historically black colleges are pell eligible meaning eligible for federal grants for low income students. these are institutions still doing yoman's work and serving a student population that is not well served largely by the majority of higher education and so that resource stratification lends itself to this growing inequality >> i want to talk about the link between the resource stratification of the colleges and what happens in the end. there is a federal reserve survey of student debt and net worth by race. it is fantastic to look at the remarkable differences. look at what students on top and black students on the bottom. average assets of white students and average net worth over time ends up being 481,000, average student debt $40,000. with black students average assets are $68,000, average

student debt higher than that of white students. this is of course, we know, follows you through life. >> yes. absolutely. black students are more likely to take on student debt, more likely to take on more student debt, more likely to default on that debt after they leave college whether with a degree or without that credential which gives them the earning boost. and so when you think about the role that historically black colleges, community colleges are playing and sort of lifting up those students, if you look across the socio economic mobility studies done, hbcus community colleges perform very well in socio economic mobility because they are trying to do this work to lift these students up. but often times that lack of resources, lack of endowment means the institutions aren't able to provide some of the additional kind of wrap-around services and support for students. and so equalizing the playing field, leveling the playing field in terms of the amount of

support the institutions have actually has a very direct effect on the students they're serving. >> so during the democratic primaries that led up to the last election everybody had some sort of suggestion. it was actually quite new that most of these candidates had some proposal for black student education and hbcus. the biden administration is proposing $239 million in new institutional aid for hbcus, $167 million in new, mandatory funding for hbcus and two years of subsidized tuition for high demand fields at hbcus. what do you think of that and how it might move this needle you have illustrated? >> i think, you know, instituting sustainable funding, recurring funding, is an incredibly important thing. so this past year hbcus received about $3 billion from the federal government. the typical year across roughly 15 programs hbcus did about a billion dollars in a normal year. that funding is great. it was a one time injection of

money. now trying to bring recurring funding to the institutions is important because it allows them to plan for the future. allows them to say okay. we have this deferred maintenance. and we also know we have more funding coming next year. so we can do this. i think that the more that we move toward recurring funding as opposed to a one time injection the better off the institutions will be and the better off their students will be. >> very interesting topic. thank you for covering it. adam harris is a staff writer at "the atlantic" and the author of "the state must provide, why america's colleges have always been unequal and how to set them right." we are just getting started on this sunday morning. this may or may not be surprising but misinformation got more clicks on facebook than actual news during the 2020 election cycle. we'll talk to someone who warned about this very specifically years ago. also i'll talk to congresswoman debbie dingell about the latest assault on women's reproductive rights. another hour of "velshi" begins right now.

good morning to you. it is sunday, september 5th. i'm ali velshi. we hope you're enjoying your labor day weekend and thank you for spending part of it with us. unfortunately for the nearly 10 million americans out of work as a result of the covid-19 pandemic federal assistance is set to end by the end of the holiday weekend. on top of that the latest jobs report revealing a major hiring slowdown, a direct result of the latest covid-19 surge across much of the country itself a direct result of the delta variant and americans who refuse to get a readily available, life saving vaccine. daily new cases of covid-19 are now back above the 150,000 mark. think about that. it is 2021 and that's what we're doing. daily death tolls are now back around 1500 per day. hospitalizations are pushing the health care system past the breaking point in areas and states with high, unvaccinated populations. the pandemic tempered outlook on the future continues to play a role in president biden's approval ratings which