she was a very loving person. she had a heart of gold. what happened to this woman? my job is to be a true teller and seek out the truth. i wanted to solve it. >> her case was a mystery, for years. the mom with the tender heart and tough-as-nails career. >> she was part of the sheriff's department. her ultimate goal was to try to get into the fbi. >> she had found a new sense of purpose, in the church. her pastor and his wife like family. >> they had taken her in.

they were helping her out. >> i'm proud of you. you're finding god. >> and one baffling text and she was gone. >> i know i probably watch a lot of "law & order." but i have this really gut feeling. >> because i was a mom. i knew she didn't leave on her own. there was no way she left that baby. >> two moms at opposite ends of a mystery. could one get justice for the other? >> this case, for sure, was an investigator's worst nightmare? >> soon, clues to a hidden life. >> a very amorous, romantic, wild relationship. >> it was blissful. oh, my goodness. >> reporter: >> there were secrets here. deadly ones. >> it hit me hard. >> come to jesus moment? >> it was. i was scared to death.

how to do you catch a dancing sprite? put her in a bottle? can you capture the joy she brings? can you keep it when it goes? >> she was a gravitational pull. >> reporter: her name was marie. marie carlson. >> she was magnetic. >> reporter: when she was happy, she could make the whole world sing. >> live life to the full et. you might not have tomorrow. >> reporter: she offered herself, her goodness. gave her vulnerable heart and stored her secrets until -- what happened. she was always that way, was marie, from the time of the very first secret in her life. she was born in the philippines by a single mother, and taken in by the family of an american serviceman. and it was years later that that kind serviceman was actually her father. that means that esther bridges, the best friend she grew up

with, was also her sister. what was that like to find that out, that she was your sister? >> i was happy. i thought she was, since we were little girls. >> reporter: when they got older, esther and marie lived together. >> we chose an apartment that we behind a karaoke club. we would go there all the time. like we were stars. >> reporter: and she wore pink. always pink. >> it was her. it was her personality. it is full of life. >> reporter: and always trying to perk up everyone else, with her favorite word, beautiful. >> she is so beautiful. i want to be like her. she told me, you are beautiful. >> she loved that word. >> reporter: kay barber was like a mother to marie. hers, the second family to take marie in when she was 18 and struggling. >> marie's nickname that i gave her was rosie.

she was always peachy, rosie and happy. >> reporter: like she was when she met jeff carlson. and he fell, hard. >> it was like, instant. and we spent the night talking. >> reporter: what are the chances of that? >> fate? the fickle finger of fate. >> reporter: you knew right away? >> yeah. >> reporter: so, they married and had a daughter named paris. and they thought their life together would be grand. marie got a college degree in criminal justice and became a deputy sheriff. >> her ultimate goal was to try to get into the fbi. >> reporter: then, for all the love between them, there were issues. jeff learned there were more secrets. as a girl, marie had been sexually assaulted. and sometimes her love and joy were chased into a darker place. >> she carried some baggage around. and when you're in love with somebody, you tend to overlook

certain behaviors and low self-esteem. the biggest issue, she didn't love herself. looking back on it now, i can say that she was always looking for love from somebody else to validate her own feelings. >> reporter: they tried. but the marriage didn't last. and after that, marie drifted a little. jobs fell through. she had to move frequently. jeff suggested paris, then 3, would have a more stable life with him. >> she fought it initially. she agreed it was probably for the best. so, paris was with me. >> reporter: though she saw paris often and called all the time. >> she always doted on paris. she loved her to death. she was -- it was superimportant to her. it was her daughter. i had concerns about the environment she was in. but not marie's love for her ever. >> reporter: they were always close? >> yes. >> reporter: even when they were distant from each other? >> yes.

>> reporter: then, marie finally found what her vulnerable loving soul seemed to need. >> i was actually happy for her because she found god. >> reporter: marie had found a spiritual home at the calvary emerald coast church. it was in a strip mall. fancy wasn't the point. salvation was. here, finally, marie felt right. >> and jesus says, you're missing out. >> reporter: the pastor was a magnetic man named james philanders. preached in jeans and sneakers. live streamed and youtubed his service. >> it was a happening place. >> reporter: jason was the youth minister. >> wouldn't fall asleep listening to his sermons. >> reporter: but the pastor and his wife, were known for their big hearts, their charity. and that when, for a third time, a family took in marie. >> she was saying she was there until she got on her feet.

>> reporter: but a whole year went by. and then, what was coming couldn't be hidden. the story floating around, there had been an abusive boyfriend that abandoned her and left her pregnant. and in july 2011, marie gave birth to a baby girl and named her grace. the pastor and his wife took care of both of them. >> it was explained to me, they were helping her out. she was down on her luck. >> reporter: she was, by all appearances, saved. spiritually by faith and practically by the paster and his wife. imagine his surprise when a group text message popped up on the phones of her family and friends. do you remember the words of that mass text? >> she said that, yesterday, she left ft. walton beach to do something she had always wanted to do. she didn't want us to try to stop her.

her last words was, i love and appreciate you all. >> reporter: the biggest surprise, marie did not take her 3-month-old baby. she left grace behind with the pastor and his wife. and right away, her sister sensed that something wasn't right. she called her family. >> i know i probably watch a lot of "law & order," but can you find out what's going on? i have this really gut feeling. she says, oh, you watch too many of those shows. i'm like, no, this is different. >> reporter: it was the fall of 2011, the very same time that a detective named nestle sooey moore became a mother. a fact that may have made all the difference. >> you get a better understanding of what it is like to love somebody, to the end of the world and back. >> reporter: it was almost like fate, intended to tie these two together. in a mystery of love and lies and loss.

coming up, where had marie carlson gone? the detective with a new baby at home dives into the mystery. >> the investigator said we're going to open a case. that surprised me. >> it did go up. >> i knew she didn't leave on her own. there was no way she left that baby. >> when "secrets on the emerald coast" continues.

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marie carlson had notified family and friends she was leaving fort walton beach and nobody could figure out why or where she went. and this was very strange, she left her 3-month-old baby in the care of her pastor, james flanders, and his wife, tayna, and not her family. not the woman she looked to as a mother figure, kay barber. >> it was heartbreaking. it was heartbreaking. >> reporter: marie's ex-husband

jeff carlson got the text, too. it didn't make sense to him that she'd leave without calling her 7-year-old daughter, paris. kay called jeff and said he should file a report. >> and she said, "i -- i don't know what's goin' on, but i -- i think somethin' happened." and i said, "yeah, i agree with you." >> reporter: and then jeff called the okaloosa county sheriff's office to report marie missing. >> the investigators said, we're going to open a case, an investigation on this. which surprised me because she's an adult. she could've just left. >> reporter: because marie was adventurous. she liked to travel. and when the mood struck her, sometimes she just took off for a few days on some whim. but something seemed different this time. >> she would've never have left without talking to me about it and talking to paris.

>> reporter: what was that like? >> i didn't believe it. she was going to call us eventually. >> reporter: that text message, something off, said her family. >> this doesn't sound like marie. >> reporter: when you got that one, the antenna must have gone up? >> the antennas did go up. >> reporter: the detective didn't hear about the case then because -- >> i was on maternity leave. >> reporter: on maternity leave. >> correct. and i came back two weeks after she was initially reported missing. >> reporter: and that's when nesli heard from other detectives about the case keith was working on. >> poor keith had no idea that i was going to come bully my way into that investigation. >> reporter: and why did you want to bully your way into the investigation? >> i think the connection of just having a child -- i just knew that she didn't leave on her own. >> reporter: so here they were. partners. the young detective who happened to be a brand-new mother and the veteran who'd seen just about everything. and who soon learned from friends and family that marie

was deeply attached to both her daughters. >> she had a heart of gold and loved her -- paris more than anything in the world. enough to be able to let paris go live with jeff to have a stable life. to me, a sacrifice on her end as a mother. >> reporter: but what happened in her life? and how did she end up with another baby? from esta the detectives learned about the divorce and how marie had lost her job, and how the pastor and his wife offered her a place to stay. but the questions about baby grace? esta said her relationship with marie was always supportive, and not judgmental. and when marie didn't tell her who the father was, she didn't push the subject. >> i've never questioned her because marie will tell me in her own time if she wants to tell me. i've learned with my sister i never pry. >> reporter: but that was the job of the detectives, nesli and keith, to pry, and hopefully, to find marie.

and one of their first calls was on her church pastor, james flanders, and his wife. impressive guy, they discovered. james flanders. what was he like? >> very charismatic. i would say he would good at his job. >> reporter: wonder what it would be like to listen to him preach. >> you can youtube him. >> reporter: yes, you can -- >> we all, at times, forget the promises of god's word. >> reporter: the pastor grew the calvary emerald coast church from scratch, spread it through youtube. and by the time marie began attending, every service filled up. >> they were a tight-knit family, that church. >> reporter: and now, with marie gone, they were caring for little grace. so did the flanders have any

idea what happened to marie? perhaps they knew who the father was, and where that abusive boyfriend might be found. and, oh yes, there was a story, all right. coming up -- questions mount, and leads are running out. was time running out too? >> we searched it, but it was -- there was nothing to search, it was clean. this case for sure was an investigator's worst nightmare. >> when "secrets on the emerald coast" continues. we did it again. verizon has been named america's most reliable network by rootmetrics. and our customers rated us #1 for network quality in america according to j.d. power. number one in reliability, 16 times in a row. most awarded for network quality, 27 times in a row. proving once again that nobody builds networks like verizon. that's why we're building 5g right,

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the calvary emerald coast church of ft. walton beach, florida, was far more than just a place to gather on a sunday morning. led by pastor james flanders and his wife, tanya, this place was a beacon of charity, too. the pastor and his church sacrificed their own needs to send money to the victims of katrina. and when marie carlson needed help, they took her in, too. >> it's what pastors do for their congregation. >> reporter: but now? >> i'm left with a missing

person who's just vanished off this earth. >> reporter: a week and a half after marie vanished, or drove away, or whatever she did, the detectives went calling on the flanders. who said they fully expected marie would return soon. this wasn't the first time she took spur of the moment trips, they said. >> never to the point where she had to be reported to law enforcement missing, though. she came back. >> reporter: although the flanders told the detectives they were quite worried about marie's state of mind. >> they noticed a downward spiral. >> reporter: that she was going into a depression or something? >> she might be going into a depression state, yes. >> reporter: thing was, said the pastor and his wife, marie could have wild mood swings, and they knew she had a diagnosed mood disorder. did they tell you that she was bipolar? >> yes, told me she was bipolar. she had been taking medication, and was off of her medication, probably because of her giving birth to the child. >> reporter: but there was

another prescription bottle too. >> and then they also showed us a bottle that was empty, you know, that maybe alluding to the fact that she had taken medication and was going to use it to hurt herself. >> reporter: the day she left? james told the detectives he was so worried about her state of mind, he stayed home from work to keep an eye on her. >> james says that she was acting up. and he didn't want to let marie take the baby. >> reporter: he was afraid the baby might be harmed or something. >> right. >> reporter: then, late that afternoon, said pastor james, marie said she was tired, went to lie down, tanya took the baby out shopping so marie could rest. the pastor said he waited around for a bit, talked to her briefly when she woke up, and then went out for a run. and when he returned -- marie and her white mazda pickup truck were gone. strangely, the flanders said, marie had packed her bags, but didn't take them. >> why would she take off and not take her bags with her? >> reporter: anyway, said the flanders, when she didn't come back that day or the next, they drove around town looking for

her. went to the airport. maybe she'd parked her car there and flown away. did they find it? >> they did. james says that he finds it in long-term parking. >> reporter: at least part of the mystery was solved, said the pastor. she must have flown off to visit someone. they took her pickup home. so -- the mazda. what did you do about that car when you got your hands on it? >> we searched it. but it was -- you know, there was nothing to search. it was clean. >> reporter: they went to the airport. >> we checked the airlines. there's nothing. she didn't fly out. >> reporter: so why would marie's car be at the airport, if she hadn't flown out of there? of course she could have been trying to hide her tracks from snoopy friends and family. or, what if someone else took the car to the airport, someone who wanted to make it look like she'd left town. rather fishy. then the detectives had an idea.

you know the machine that spits out tickets when you enter an airport parking lot? that very ticket goes back to the tollbooth when you leave. >> keith and i went to the little toll booth where you give the -- your ticket. >> reporter: maybe, thought the detectives, the parking ticket for marie's mazda would tell them not just when it was dropped off but, a more important question, by whom. >> we were thinking let's get a thumbprint, or a fingerprint and went through every single one of them until we found the one that marie's car had received. >> reporter: and yes, they got a print. but no, it wasn't clear enough to tell whose it was. then, another thought. >> hey, let's go pull surveillance video. and of course -- >> reporter: you looked at all of it. >> well, no. the video didn't wor -- it wasn't working. >> reporter: oh. >> during the time that we needed. this case, for sure, was an investigator's worst nightmare. >> reporter: dead ends everywhere. >> yes. >> reporter: and weeks went by. no sign of marie anywhere.

time to embrace the thought they'd frankly had all along. and it wasn't a good one. >> keith and i both no longer believed we had a missing person. we believed we were dealing with a homicide investigation. but what's the hardest homicide investigation you can be given? one without a body. >> reporter: yeah. >> and we didn't have marie. coming up, the startling secret that marie kept from just about everyone. >> i went up and i put my hand on her stomach and i said "what's going on with this?" >> when "secrets on the emerald coast" continues. and also 6g. and 4c. and 2r. and 7l... apartments-dot-com. the most popular place to find a place. are you tired of clean clothes that just don't smell clean? what if your clothes could stay fresh for weeks? now they can! downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters keep your laundry smelling fresh way longer than detergent alone. pour a cap of downy unstopables into your washing machine

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suspended because four average tin in an players flew for the game and did not follow quarantine regulations. more news later. now, back to "dateline." what a nest of puzzles. what happened to marie carlson? where did she go? did she go anywhere? and what about grace? the baby she left behind. who, for example, was the father. churches tend to be beehives of gossip. so, the detectives asked around. >> she had a boyfriend was involved in an abusive relationship. she was beat up. >> reporter: this is a member of the calvary emerald coast church. >> she found out she was pregnant. and she didn't want to go back to the guy. and didn't want to keep the child. >> reporter: in other words, she was going to have an abortion. but pastor philanders and his

wife had strong views about abortion. hen they discovered her situation, they offered her a solution. >> they would help her with the baby. >> reporter: they wanted another child. but one miscarriage after another. so, the pastor and his wife came to an arrangement with marie. >> she would stay three months to nurse the baby. and the plan, she would leave. that was my understanding from before the baby was born. >> with the bbaby? >> no. the baby was a gift for the land in flanders. >> reporter: a gift? it was for her to be good to her. but something about the story didn't sound quite right. the father, for example. in fact, the alleged abusive guy didn't seem to exist.

but then they talked to ex-husband jeff. and the story he heard? completely different. and it came directly from marie when she came to visit jeff shortly after she got pregnant. >> i put my hand on her stomach. and i said, "what's -- what's going on with this?" and she wasn't really showing. and her story at that time was, "well, i'm just being a surrogate for james and tanya. so we did basically the -- a type of artificial insemination." >> reporter: well, well, well, the pastor was the sperm donor. in this new story, marie's gift was to be the pastor's artificially inseminated surrogate. but why the conflicting stories? to find out, the detectives consulted three special church ladies, tanya flanders' closest confidants. did you have a name for this group? >> we called them the inner circle. >> reporter: and the inner circle said yes, tanya told them. but swore them to secrecy. but then tanya gave up a little more. the method was very homemade. >> i remember them saying, "oh,

it was with the -- turkey thingy." >> it was with, like, a turkey baster? >> yes. >> now she's got a secret. >> yeah, at that point. >> reporter: wait, at that point? yes. because tanya just couldn't leave it there. the next time, she admitted something very, very shocking. >> and tanya said, "well, we did it the old-fashioned way." >> reporter: james and marie had sex. which tanya told the ladies was okay with her. and as months passed and marie started showing, there was a baby shower. but oh, no. not for marie. this baby shower was for tanya. she put a balloon under her shirt for a funny photo with marie. but something here didn't seem quite right. the inner circle had to keep their secret. if the story got out? it could threaten everything she and the pastor had built.

and as it got more and more and more into weird stuff, it was just that the stakes got higher. right? >> that's right. imagine the secrecy that the inner circle, that tanya actually told the truth to, that it's james' baby. >> reporter: but no room for secrets in an official investigation. the detectives invited james and tanya to voluntarily come in for a chat. but only tanya showed up. and here in this little room at the sheriff's office, she let it all come out. about that night of sake and sex, when grace was conceived. >> yeah. yeah. he had a little bit too. i was the only one that was sober.

but yes, i was there. >> reporter: yes. in the room. but of course she was, said tanya. and almost casually, she revealed the heresy that, should it ever become public, would surely ruin them. >> marie was going to move in, and she was going to be number two. >> a plural wife. >> yes. >> or whatever you call them. >> a sister wife, i think. >> plural marriage. >> reporter: it was, in short, polygamy. or their homegrown version of it. tanya told detectives she understood the bargain very well. >> i've always seen a relationship as it's -- it's not -- sex is not a relationship. a relationship is two people coming together. and sex is just a bonus. >> reporter: a very secret bonus, of course, kept from almost everyone. but inside the bubble of their relationship, tanya said, they were happy. >> she goes, "you know what? i am so glad that you're going to be raising grace." she said, "and i am so glad that i'm going to be able to be here to do that with you." and i thought, "god, you know, how cool is that?" >> reporter: but then, then marie gave birth. and it wasn't cool for marie. not anymore. and certainly not adoption. >> every time we started to broach the subject with her, she did get withdrawn. >> reporter: so maybe tanya wouldn't get baby grace.

maybe marie wanted it all, the baby and james, all for herself. that's what this member of the inner circle believed. >> but i did i hear that from marie, that marie wanted james? >> reporter: did tanya strike back somehow? fight for her marriage by getting rid of marie? listen to how church members quoted tanya's words. >> she basically was like, "james would never be able to do that, but i could." >> and that was -- >> shocker? >> yeah. >> i told him, you're not capable of killing her." but tanya leans over and goes, "well he couldn't, but i could." >> reporter: so wouldn't that lead you to, like a bloodhound, direct to tanya? she certainly would have a motive. >> she would. >> reporter: tanya now the only mother figure in grace's life. did she know more than she was saying? did she do something? coming up -- a confrontation with the

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just saying you need to really learn to think different. >> reporter: an attentive churchgoer might have noticed the intrusion of an odd idea in one of the sermons of pastor james flanders. >> what do you think we'd experience? >> reporter: when he mentioned a couple of verses in the old testament that seemed to approve, somehow, of polygamy. >> he wanted to justify his relationship to everybody else through a biblical sense. >> reporter: so he went to the old testament and -- and pulled up those few lines that suggest polygamy. >> that's correct.

>> reporter: a trial balloon? if it was, it quickly imploded. and the very practical polygamy in the home of the pastor stayed carefully under wraps. so if the news got out of the to the rest of the church, did tanya worry about what might happen there? >> that's what she was covering up. she had to protect james and protect their -- that was their world. >> reporter: did she do something to marie, to protect james? two months after marie disappeared the detectives got permission to look at the cell phone records of all three of them. would they prove tanya was with marie when she vanished and thus maybe did something to her? >> the cell phone tower information put her away from the area. >> reporter: no. nowhere near marie. so then they checked the cell towers for james' phone, and what do you know. when marie sent that mass text message saying she was leaving town, both her phone and the

pastor's were pinging off the same cell tower two blocks from his house. and when marie's mazda was dropped at the airport? >> we've got james flanders' cellphone touching towers near the airport. why would his phone be near the airport? >> reporter: well, either james innocently drove marie to the airport, and neglected to reveal that, or he drove her car there to cover up a crime. no way to prove it either way. so they were stuck again. which is when jason, the youth pastor, remember him? out of the blue jason came to call. he had something the detectives needed to hear, he said. i mean, that would take a certain amount of courage. >> absolutely. we would've never known about that if jason wouldn't have come forward. >> reporter: known what? the secret incident that got junior pastor jason involved. it happened soon after marie disappeared. when a very distraught james asked this church elder for help. >> he said, he goes, i need you

to get me out of the country. i said, what's going on? i said, does this have to do with maria -- marie? he's like, i can't tell you. he never once said anything to me else but it's bad. >> reporter: james seemed suicidal, said the elder. so he called a doctor friend. and the doctor committed the preacher to a psychiatric ward for ten days, during which time jason andersen took over preacher duties. but then jason heard things. not about what happened to marie, but about polygamy. with other church leaders, he confronted james and tanya. this is a, forgive my saying, come to jesus moment? >> it was the hardest thing i've ever had to do, myself, personally, was to confront my pastor. he had been sleeping with two women, in the same house. but then, youth pastor jason told the detectives, in that cloistered setting, james kept talking, and told a terrible story. >> him and marie had had a

physical altercation before she went missing. and she had scratched him on his arms. >> reporter: james insisted marie was still alive the last time he saw her. >> i was just so in shock of everything. >> reporter: that was it. he could not continue as pastor. james would have to resign. he announced that he and tanya were leaving town. did you realize that? >> if he was repentant, and we could move to a process of restoration, but the only other option would be to step down. >> reporter: james announced that they were leaving town. >> they were supposed to leave the following morning to say good-bye to church members.

and low and behold, they fled to arizona. >> they fled. >> reporter: like thieves in the night. with baby grace. it was a few days after they left when jason went to the police to tell his disturbing >> that they had a physical story. >> that they had a physical run-in the day that she went missing. >> reporter: then a piece of luck. before they left, marie's friend kay had asked the pastor and his wife for marie's belongings. they gave her marie's computer. the bad news was it had been erased but -- >> i brought it into the sheriff's department for them to take a look. >> we had our forensic tech reanalyze the computer, and it gave us a beautiful copy of her phone download that she had done when she backed her phone up. >> reporter: wow. but maybe it wasn't so lucky. there were thousands of text messages, but they were an unreadable jumble of symbols and words. >> this particular coin -- >> reporter: though look at this. marie shot this video that did survive.

showing the pastor hawking gold and silver online, apparently while running the church. >> valuing this coin at over $500. lemme tell you, that's exciting stuff. >> reporter: was james just a pastor? or part time flim-flam man? so this is where things stood when an anonymous tip came in. >> crimestoppers. >> reporter: startling. if true, it would solve the case. >> and in the tip, it says that james buried her in the backyard. >> reporter: that's some tip. >> yeah. i can remember getting that tip and thinking, "no way." like, who would -- who would kill somebody and bury them in their own backyard? >> reporter: could be bogus, of course. just another false lead. but nesli was hopeful. >> we brought cadaver dogs and ground-penetrating radar and -- we didn't find anything. >> reporter: nothing? >> nothing.

>> reporter: no body. so what happened to marie? more months went by. police kept trying to speak with james but got no response. then after a whole year, they tried again, and he picked up. >> i had been asked by our attorney not to talk to anyone without him there. >> reporter: but he did talk -- talked for two hours, in fact, from his car. at times sounding like he was the victim. >> what emotions have i felt over the past year and a month, you know? anger at marie for going and not letting us know what's going on, and then back to anger at myself for not making a phone call to get her help. and anger at myself for ever letting the relationship became what it became. >> reporter: the pastor said he knew he was the prime suspect. >> i am terrified of the prospect of marie taking her own life. and if she did, and i pray she didn't, i hope she did it very, very, very, very, very, very, very far away.

because if they find her one little bone that somehow could be connected with her, there -- it's my fault. i'm sure it's the way people would look at it, it's james. >> do you know where marie is? >> no, i do not. if i did, i would go get her. >> did you kill marie carlson? >> no. >> reporter: and that was that. they were stalled. marie was missing. and the case was getting very cold. coming up, new revelations from the pastor. >> they were sending pornographic photos back and forth from the church. >> and an answer at last to the biggest mystery of all. where was marie? >> nesli passed me a note that said, i missed her. >> i was pretty devastated. the guilt. the feeling of, i could have found her six months after she was reported missing. >> when "secrets on the emerald coast" continues. and one we explore

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unlike a fine wine, a cold case doesn't get better with age. it just gets colder. and the state attorney wasn't optimistic it would ever get solved. what chance did you feel? >> i felt it was a 50/50 chance of it being solved. >> there was an equal opportunity it would just go away. >> there was. i felt it could die. i knew if we were going to make the case, law enforcement would have to be very careful and very persistent in their investigation. >> he decided one of his most experienced prosecutors, angela mason, should work on it. >> i was certainly vulnerable in that i did not have a body. i was also vulnerable with the tonya element, that people thought she could be a suspect. >> then, three years after marie disappeared, the most amazing thing happened. marie's computer yielded to a new forensics program. and out spilled in clarity text

messages between marie and james. >> i love you. i love you so much. and getting in graphic detail of what he wants to do with her. pornographic to the point they were sending pornographic photos. >> to each other? >> from the church. >> some things are hard to unsee. we'll spare you. and most important, everything stopped the day she disappeared. >> no credit cards, no phones. i thought that was strong evidence that she was, in fact, dead, and not, in fact, missing. i think the evidence that this defendant kept her such a secret, kept that relationship such a secret from so many, because it could have cost him everything. i thought that was strong evidence. >> and her last conversation with a family member was -- >> she wanted out of the circumstances she was in. but she wasn't willing to leave her bibby behind. >> and then there was. this one of those sermons posted

on youtube just a month before marie vanished. and now, in the evidence file -- >> whenever someone is back stabbing me, lying about me, gossiping about me, trying to tear me down or whatever, you know what i want to do? my feelings say, choke the life out of them! [ laughter ] >> is that what the pastor did to marie? >> we were definitely very interested in that sermon. >> what minister talks about choking the life out of somebodisome >> right. >> detectives spelled out their case. circumstantial, difficult. but the prosecutors bought it. and james flanders was charged with second degree murder. persistence paid off. >> we were 4 1/2 years in. most people would have given up by now. >> but as the pastor waited in jail for his trial, his attorney and former church member glenn was optimistic. >> what did you think your chances were as you went to trial? >> i did believe the state had second degree murder. they didn't have a body.

>> maybe not. but as the pastor and his attorney looked at the evidence that might put him in prison for life, just before the trial, they made a deal. the state reduced the charge from second degree murder to manslaughter and james agreed to tell them what he did to marie and where he put her. marie's family grudgingly agreed. >> that was the hardest thing, but i wanted to know where my sister was. i didn't want to go years and years and years and not know. >> as much as i absolutely hated to agree to it, i knew that was probably the only way. >> first, as part of the deal, the pastor told the story of marie. of the polygamy arrangement. >> he said marie sen had a name for their relationship. lationshp

>> thrupple. then the pastor offered his version of that last awful night. he claimed that marie was in a downward spiral mentally and erupted after he told her she should be hospitalized for depression. n >> a fatal bear hug? not possible, the detective thought. then she braced for the answer she waited five years to hear. r. >> at that point, the detective got up and left the room. >> she passed me a note that

said, i missed her. >> i was pretty devastated. i was in that backyard in 2012. >> not like you didn't look. >> yeah, but human nature, you still have a guilt, the feeling of "i could have found her six months after she was reported missing." >> the pastor insisted that tanya wasn't around, was shopping and knew nothing. >> do you wonder whether tonya had more to do this? >> i think that will always be in the back of our minds? but i think she may have known more than she wants to say. >> but tanya was never charged, and her defense attorney said she was truly shocked by james' confession. >> i could tell you as a matter of fact from having to tell her from what happened, she did not know. >> later that afternoon, james

flamde flanders was escorted into his former backyard where he marked with little flags the spot he bury mad rhee carlson five years earlier, then fell on the ground and cried, and told her she was sorry. it took hours, but finally, almost five feet deep, wrapped in a blanket, they found what was left of marie. >> i lost it that day. because all i can picture was, oh, my gosh, she really is dead. she really is gone. i mean, you know that 1% -- >> that disappears, boom. >> i think i went crazy. i was shaking, i was crying so much. i don't think i've ever cried so loud. >> the prosecutor angela mason wept, too. >> it was my fault. >> back in court that afternoon,

james flanders was sentenced to 15 years. with good behavior, he'll be out. free to join tanya in arizona. and grace, whose mother he killed. >> he's going to get to have a life after he's done. marie's gone forever. she doesn't get a life, especially with her kids, which is for most mothers, the world. >> i'm sure you must have formed a fairly complex opinion of what his personality is. how would you describe him? >> i think james loves himself more than anybody else. i think -- i would argue he's narcissistic. >> this case makes you angry? >> yeah. >> gets you riled up. >> yeah. because for almost five years, she was painted as an individual that left her children, abandoned her infant child to

live her own life. and that wasn't the truth at all. >> jeff carlson had to tell his daughter, paris, her mom was not coming back. >> wasn't easy. what do you say? you don't know how to prepare them for the future. the future of living with this and the questions that are going to come up as she gets older. you know, he deprived her of her mother. he deserves to rot in prison for the rest of his life. he doesn't deserve to walk in society. >> later, marie's family and many others gathered for a celebration of marie's life. they sang karaoke and esta told us when marie's daughter, paris, comes to visit her little girl, the two cousins sit down at the piano and play music like they did years ago.

and grace -- >> i want to tell her all about her mom. it's one of those where i just -- i want to show her your mother really did love you. >> maybe some day she'll know about that uncontainable woman who, while she stayed, brought joy, marie. ♪♪ she was beautiful. her eyes were remarkable. i was going to be there for her and she was going to be there for me. it didn't matter what it was. i thought maybe she had been kidnapped. no one knew what was happening. there was nothing i or anyone could have done. >> skylar, rachel, sheila. total bffs. >> they hung out all the time.