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facing leaks takes strength. so here's to the strong, who trust in our performance and comfortable long-lasting protection. because your strength is supported by ours. depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. welcome back to "morning joe." we're going to look back at one of the most riveting days of testimony that we have ever heard on capitol hill. four law enforcement officers from the deadly january 6th insurrection giving their detail. >> we begin with the capital riot testimony from the officers that we heard. they shared their experience on that day against a mob of trump
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rioters that stormed the capitol as the democraticly president. >> i was more scared to work that day than any other day in my time in iraq. he shouted that i was a traitor and that i, a veteran police officer, should be executed. the rioters attempting to breach the capital were yelling trump sent us. i heard officers screaming in agony and in pain. i didn't know at the time it was
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office hodges who is here with us today. i recall thinking to myself, this is how i'm going to die. i ended up on my hands and knees and blind. the medical mask i was wearing at the time to protect myself from coronavirus was pulled over my eyed. i braced myself against the impact of their flows. directory in front of me a man ceased the opportunity to use my gas mask to slam my head against the wall. i remember him foaming at the mouth. he put his cell phone in his mouth so he had both hands free
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to assault me. >> they yelled no, man, this is hour house. president trump invited us here. we're here to start this deal. one woman in a pink maga shirt yelled, you hear that guys? this [ bleep ] voted for joe biden. the crowd, about 20 people joined in screaming boo [ bleep ]. no one had ever, ever called me a [ bleep ] while wearing the uniform of a capitol police officer. another black officer later told me he had been confronted by insurrectionists in the capitol that told him put your gun down and we'll show you what kind of a [ bleep ] you really are. >> i was grabbed, beaten, tased, while being called a traitor to my country. at some point during the fighting i was dragged from the
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line of officers and into the crowd. i heard someone scream "i got one." as i was swarmed by a violent mob, they ripped off my badge, they took my radio, they took my ammo and they beat me with their fists and what felt like hard metal objected. i came face to face with an attacker that attempted to remove my firearm. someone yelled get his gun and kill him with his own gone. i was aware to recognize i was at risk of being stripped of and killed with my own firearm. i was electrocuted again, and again, and again with a taser. i feel like i went to hell and back to protect them. fwu many are now telling me that
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hell doesn't exist or that it was that bad. the indifference shown to my colleagues is disgraceful. telling the truth is not hard. fighting on january 6th was hard, showing up on the 7th, the 8th, the 9th, until today, that was hard. when the fence came down, that was hard. we lost our layer of protection that we had and the finance came down and still nothing changed. everything is different but nothing has challenged. liz cheney is being lauded. i agree with the notion, why?
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because they told the truth? why is telling the truth hard? in america it is. we would do january 6th all over again, we wouldn't stay home because we knew it would happen, we would show up and that is courageous, that is heroic. so i'm asking you all to get to the bottom of what's happening. i use an analogy to describe what i explain as if a hit man is hired, he goes to jail and so does the person that hired him. there was an attack carried out on january 6th, and a hit man sent them. i want you to get to the bottom of that. >> the sea of people was punctuated throughout by flags.
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mostly variations of american flags and trump flags. it's clear the terrorists were christian. i saw several that spoke of jesus. one said don't give up the ship. another had crossed rifles under the skull emblazened with the american flag. to my confusion, i even saw the thin blue line flag. >> one rioter breeched the capitol, and i had a chance to let my own family know they was alive.
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after many hours i arrived home at nearly 4:00 a.m. on january 7th. i had to push my wife away from me because she wanted to hug me, and i told her no, because of all of the chemical that my uniform had on it. i could not sleep because the chemical reactivated after i took a shower, and i could not sleep for two more hours, by 8:00 a.m. i was on my way back
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to the capitol. and i continued to work for 15 contective days. i made sure to work despite my injuries because i wanted to continue doing my job in helping to secure the capital complex. >> i remember thinking there was a very good chance i would be torn apart or shot to test with my own weapon. i thought of my four daughters that might lose their dad. i was glad that no member of congress went through the silent assault i went through that day. i thought about using my firearm on my attackers but i knew that i would be quickly overwhelmed
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and that would justify their decision to kill me. i said as loud as i could imagine "i have kids." as i came close to the terrorists our line was divided and we came under attack. the man attempted to rip the baton from my hands. he yelled at me "you're on the wrong team." cut off from our lip at the front of our formation we huddled up to assess the threat around us. one man was shouting are you my brother? another said you will die on your knees. >> it is really, the video yesterday, the testimony was nothing short of extraordinary. these were fathers, daughters,
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husbands, defending our country and our constitution and they're getting brutalized for it by terrorists that were sent to the capitol by insurrectionists. look at the definitions. our books, our statutes. of course i know that laws mean nothing, it means nothing to donald trump. but i was watching and i was telling myself will is going to cut through. i understand that we live in a crazy age. i understand there is a personality consult. i understand all of these things but so many of those people who have not wanted to face a truth about january 6th respect cops?
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and yet on other networks you had people saying january 6th was much to do about nothing and well these police officers were just actors? >> yeah, man, joe, i was i don't think i have ever seen anything like it in terms of the most visceral reaction to it. never seen anything like it, and i never felt more -- i always respect people like that. i felt grateful and humbled by their sacrifice, and kind of in awe of what they understood.
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not being able to talk about it without dissolving into puddles. and what you said, right, i think it is really important what i think we all do not grasp is there a parallel media universe where this is not going to change their minds. they are just living and absorbing a totally different version of reality of what is going on in america. so to the extent that it was covered, i was enraged to see
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people they make this up. there is prime time people. the most disgusting, appalling, morally debraved, symptomage churning behavior that are not even worthy to co-exist on the same planet. the people that made the sacrifice sitting in there fully vaccinated, air-conditioned studios, mocking these member, mocking them. not diminishing their porps. calling them crisis actors. saying they fabricated all of this. some people that used to have
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respect in the business saying it was much to do about nothing. it is a same trope brought out by these nutty right wing protestors so no, it will not breakthrough, i'm afraid, because they're fully in the group of this delusion that will never allow anything close to the truth to pierce the consciousness of the people in it's tlal. >> you wonder why they would allow any anti-american ret ri like that to be allowed on the air. the mocking of the offers that risked their lives who were beaten within inches of their
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lives, with american flags, brutalized, all to protect and defend the constitution of the united states. all to protect and defend a constitutional occurrence. all to protect the defend the peaceful transition of one president to the next. and you watch the testimony yesterday and i can tell any good american, any good american any good american that respects law enforcement that respects men and women in blue, any good american would have been moved by what they saw. if they, instead, went on and mocked the was a of those men
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nearly beaten to death for simply trying to protect their country because so much was on the line that day then accountability, i guess, at the end of the day goes to those people, those corporate boards that allow people like them on investigation. it is a disgrace to them, it is a disgrate to all of us that people like that mock the service of the men in blue. >> up next more of the powerful testimony from the four law enforcement that responded to the deadly january 6th insurrection. insurrection
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the panel that investigated the violence january 6th insurrection. four uniform officered gave their account of the attack. seeking to prevent congress from certifying president joe biden's victory and newly revealed victory underscored what those officers described. >> yesterday's hearings included some never before seen video from january 6th and audio from officers on the ground. >> we're still taking metal, sharpened objects, missiles, bottles, rocks, and can
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>> if i give this up they're going to have direct access. at least the scaffold we can defend. we have to hold what we have. >> that doesn't sound like actors to me. it doesn't, and yet you have news hosts on other networks that are says that they're just actors that have people who were once respected in washington saying january 6th was much to do about nothing. at the end of the day they ended up counting votes anyway.
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did that look like acting to you? >> it's hard to watch the totally of all of the coverage. even as closely as we have followed the aftermath and having watched it the day of. and that was not much to do about nothing. that was not loving from a mob. what the officers described they described having their badges ripped, their ammo ripped. being pulled into a mob and thinking they would die. pleading to spare them for the sake of their children. they were called horrible racial slurs. the windows were struck through and this was not the act of a loving mob. and anyone who tries to deny, tries to claim these were ordinary tourists, what would happen if americans acted this way when they went to visit the
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vatican? would that be well received. if americans went to another country and behaved this way? it's just bone chilling. and i'm just so grateful for those brave officers that held the line that day and who came forward yesterday to testify yesterday and faced the great risks for telling the truth. what happened yesterday was the first draft of history. those officers telling the truth and giving those factual accounts, and how the mob came and put the capitol under siege. and nancy pelosi did not let that happen. >> well, it is obviously, this is obviously something that we're going to be dealing with for some time. it's not going to wear well with
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the republican party or trump supporters. we're dealing with a political consult that is defined by voodoo viens. as we see in these clips it is violence against cops, violence against the constitution. and violence against the country. the far have the right having their hippie moment. the far right is going as extreme as they ka, except they're using violence, like the far left used violence in the late 06s, bombings in the late 60s, the very things that conservatives claim they hated, that is what they have become now. that is what they're thinking.
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. the people that run the networks, the people on the board at the networks, the shareholders of those networks, do they support the mocking and the ridiculing, do they support facious violence. over whelming majority of americans think it is something. and we did hear from some republicans yesterday, congressman adam kinzinger and elizabeth whenny. >> almost every member of the republican conference understood what had actually happened and many of them said so publicly.
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and the fact that so many members of our leadership and others, the fact that they went from recognizing what happened on the 6th to protesting for the justice department, on behalf of those from the insurrection department is something they can't explain and i think it is a disgrace. >> i never expected the day to be as emotional for me as it has been. getting to know a number of you. i think it is important to tell you right now though that you may individually feel broken, and you talk about the impact of that day but you guys won. you guys held. you know democracies are not defined by our bad days.
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we're defined by how we come back from bad days. how we take accountability from that. for all of the overheated rhetoric surrounding this committee our mission is very simple. it's to find the truth and to ensure accountability. >> i read some people mocked him when he spoke to the people in uniform. he served proudly in the united states military, and again, john as you said you have people sitting in air-conditioned rooms, vaccinated, safe from dangers mocking these men in uniform. these law enforcement officers and cops that were trying to push back against a law less
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mob. again a refor example of what we saw from the far left in the 1960s, that supposingly it was supposed to counter with order and respect for our institutions. and respect for the law. but that has certainly not happened. i want to key in on something that liz whenny said. you don't even -- you don't have to get clips from what nancy pelosi said after jan 6th to get to the essence of what this was. they should play in these hearings what kevin mccarthy said on the floor about donald trump's responsibility.
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they should play an emotional lindsey graham on the senate floor saying he had enough. he is off of that train. he is off of the trump train. he had enough, and donald trump has greatly impacted his legacy. and other republicans that were scared for their lives on that day. scared for the lives of people around them who in the weeks that followed were more scared about their political careers than they were about the future of this country. it's really disgusting, there is no other word for it. the majority of americans believe, like i do, that they should be ashamed of themselves. they're disgusting and the salespeople that attacked cops were disgusting. >> it's almost maybe more disgusting in some ways. kevin mccarthy asked did you see the testimony? no, we didn't watch the testimony. and i -- these officers were doing all the things that you
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described, joe, you know they were protecting the constitution, the peaceful transfer of power. these guys went through and suffered all of the things they offered to protect the lives of those republican and democratic members, but they put their lives on the line for kevin mccarthy and mitch mcconnell. and he went on television and they are just spitting on the men who laid their lives down to save the lives of kevin mccarthy. >> what are we saying to the world about who we are? and they behave that way? they can't even agree on the truth. >> up next our colleagues at sky
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as western involvement in afghanistan comes to an end, sky news takes a look at the afghan people that face the most risk when the troops leave. particularly afghan women that carved out a life for themselves in spite of our perhaps in defiance of the threat of violence against them. sky news special correspondent alex crawford reports from kabul. >> afghanistan's hospitals are filled with wounded. many of them children. the latest here is a 13-year-old girl who has never known peace. the doctors will patch her up
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and remove the shrapnel in her. there has been a spike in fataliies and casualties as troops begin to pull out after 20 years. no one is safe, not even medics saving lives. he is a doctor, shot after refusing an x-ray on a patient he was suspected to having coronavirus. he signals his appreciation to his fellow medics. despite his bravery he is vulnerable because he also works with americans. many are fleeing for their lives. a woman and her children have
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gone into hiding after death threats from the taliban. she thought she was building a new and better afghanistan, but now she is viewed as a spy and enemy collaborator by the taliban and her former u.s. partners are leaving her to face them alone. >> i feel extremely abandoned. i'm in danger. now my kids are in danger also. now, you know, they sent me to the phone and they got in touch with me, and the lives of my children and myself, they won't leave me alive. i'm worried about my people female activists told us of the fear of the advancing taliban.
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>> she as her staff are trying to arrange emergency flights for fellow human rights defenders in cities surrounded by taliban fighters. i was given rare access and allowed to film. every woman in here has run away from abuse and violence and they're terrified of the return of the taliban. >> they are worried they will abuse them, moe lest them, or kill them and there is one of them that is aphrase of her two children being taken. >> here they don't believe the taliban reassurances that they have changed. . they had no say and no rights and that is what they believe
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for women. this 21-year-old was forced to marry a 14-year-old boy. >> i felt like my life was falling apart, she says, until i got here. their fear of the taliban is real and growing as the group gets stronger and snatches more territory. another says that she, too, was forced to marry a young boy and repeatedly beaten by her inlaws. >> will this get worse? >> i think it is definitely going to get worse, she says. the young women of today's afghanistan have had a glimpse of free thinking and independence. although those in this
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tae quan do traying all faced difficulty getting here. weeks before the pull out of international troops, a car bomb detonated and killed 90 people. every girl here knows their risking death every time they set off to learn. >> how scared are you about going to school? >> i'm scared a lot. when i leave my house, i'm scared. we don't know if we'll come back alive, she says. >> 18-year-old katerra says she
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won't give up trying to be a lawyer. the explosions are normal, she says, sheer is terrified her family will be killed. >> my cousin and uncle died in an explosion, she says. almost every here has experienced death. parts of afghanistan are unrecognizable to taliban ties. women running their own businesses like this cafe, but they fear they will be among the first to be banned by a taliban regime. there is a generation that grew up with freedoms and they want more, not less. >> we have lost all of these rights to go out. >> i don't like scarf, but -- >> she has to wear a scarf.
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if the taliban comes i have to wear a scarf and it's awful for me. >> next to the cafe there is a beauty salon owned and run by a woman. many fear it won't be long before the strict rules of what women can and can't do are enforced again. on top of the mills surrounding the capital there are monuments to the school children killed. few are hospital mystic about the immediate future. sky news, kabul. kabul.
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the morning joe field steam spoke to a cross section of beliefers and skeptics. >> we're at the gate ♪ >> we are at the gate of area 51, out exploring, see what they got, knock it off the list, say i made it out to area 51. >> ufos, they definitely exist. >> the universe is too big to say no, it is not real. >> we came out because we believe in aliens. we had a sighting that looked like a ufo. >> fact checkers said this isn't real. now all of a sudden it is real? what else are you guys lying about? >> we had an incident on the uss omaha, big object shaped as long as a football field, floating around by the ship.
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and went into the water. used to be people could see things and report them. people did discount 95% of what they said. with this incident we had with uss omaha, we had sonar, radar. they took pictures of it. not like somebody was making it up, so we know there's more to it than nothing. i was briefed every week by the cia, all the information i have gotten that is not coming from china, from russia, not from france. it is something that we know where it is coming for security of our nation and development of technology, we should stay on top of this. right now, i am disappointed. every report from congress, i don't know if it was worthless but close to it. we need to be transparent, put out to the american people everything that we know. we can stand it if there's no evidence coming from someplace else, but if it were, american people could accept that. what they can't accept is trying to hide something and that's what i am worried about.
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>> the director of astrobiology at columbia university studies questions about nature of life in the universe. some of the most difficult phenomena for science to study are those that are not easily reproducible. this question of uaps or ufos is intriguing, but as a scientist, what i need is consistently coherent data. ideally what we would have is much higher fidelity imaging data, ultra high definition video, for example, some kind of consistent monitoring of radio frequencies. in other words, data all taken by the same kind of set of instruments. i think there are definitely opportunities for the government to seek partnerships with universities, with the research community that haven't been formed yet. if this is really a question that demands an answer, the government itself would like to have an answer for, there are
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many researchers out there that would be interested in trying to help. >> on one hand, i can totally agree with putting out the report, pretending we're just starting. on the other hand, it is like no, we should come out, say we know about this, this is the path forward. these videos from 2019 that were -- that came through the system of being declassified, we know where those came from because of the proper paperwork. there's a lot of amazing videos of ufos out there. the problem is we don't know which ones are faked or leaked. this is the first time we have chain of title. the thing people have to realize, this ufo subject they're barely digesting and barely hearing about has been going on a very long time. our government knows a hell of a lot more about it than they're letting on. it is a serious, serious thing. this is not some weird new thing
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that our government is just now looking up and noticing, had astronauts talking about it, presidents talking about it, had the cia, joint chiefs of staff talking about it, back into the '40s. we have been dealing with this stuff, looking into this stuff a very long time. so when the uap report comes out, is it the right thing to do? maybe. is it not being totally truthful, maybe. one of the things i learned from working with all my colleagues from the government was like we can keep a secret. everyone likes to run around and say we can't keep a secret, nothing is a secret, the government can't keep a secret. my guy says yes, we can, hell yeah we can and we do. >> so from my experience of interviewing now hundreds of individuals in the military and intelligence community, very high ranking, all the way up to having the ear of the president,
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what i know more than anything is that data is always partitioned. you see it in the uap report. it is like everyone inputted some data, but what data did they input? we know from history that intelligence organizations, defense department create air machines that are unidentifiable, designed to be that way. disinformation campaigns are kind of baked into any discussion of ufology. the best example would be world war ii era testing out in the california desert. the movement from planes that flew with propellers to jet engines. the government needed to keep it secret, don't want it leaked. what happened is technicians go to a hollywood prop house, get a gorilla mask, have test pilots flying in the first jet aircraft being tested in the desert, skies above the desert in
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california wearing a gorilla mask. anyone that sees that and tries to report that, i mean, it is preposterous. they would have laughed out of the bar and that's exactly what happened. >> that does it for us today. hope you're having a great labor day. stay with msnbc for your breaking news and political analysis. h msnbc for your breaking news and political analysis get...get mom. [ding] power e*trade gives you an award-winning app with 24/7 support when you need it the most. don't get mad. get e*trade and start trading today. [sfx: radio being tuned] welcome to allstate. ♪ [band plays] ♪ a place where everyone lives life well-protected. ♪♪ and even when things go a bit wrong, we've got your back. here, things work the way you wish they would. and better protection costs a whole lot less. you're in good hands with allstate. click or call for a lower auto rate today.
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good morning. on this labor day, a key financial lifeline expiring for millions of americans out of work, depending on your state. thoeks extended, enhanced benefits put in place at the height of the pandemic go away, leaving a lot of people and their families scrambling. labor secretary marty walsh saying this morning on "today" there's hope for some people, but it is up to their state. >> we have allowed governors across the country if they need to to look at using rescue plan money to extend
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