you're watching msnbc everybody. we will start this hour on labor day, we will focus on the economy and politics, the president back at the white house, gearing up for some big fights ahead. pushing a domestic agenda. that could reshape the american economy, including infrastructure and what would be the most significant expansion of the safety net since the 1960s. and congress also soon returning to washington, the house hoping to hold votes on both the 3.5 trillion spending package, and the one trillion dollar infrastructure deal. and it could not come in a more pressing time, for so many

americans. as unemployment benefits pushed through the pandemic expire today. 7.5 million people are said to lose their jobless benefits today. 3 million are using a 300 dollar state boost to their benefits. labor secretary marty walsh today, saying states can choose to use other funds, to extend those benefits. >> we've allowed -- the actually using rescue plan money. to extend the unemployment benefits in their state. if they need to. the rate is different all across the country, so really it is about how we continue to get the economy back and running. >> meanwhile millions still struggled to find work in the middle of the delta variant surge. many will soon be facing the reality of losing their, housing is the supreme court struck down biden's eviction moratorium extension. let's talk about this. joining me now former clinton labor secretary an offer of the assistant who rigged.

it how we fix it. maria, founder of footsore media, her memoir was once i was. you and the political strategist, susan. all right maria i'll start with you on this one. extended jobless benefits have been a critical lifeline, as i mentioned, to millions of americans. who will suffer most now with these benefits done? >> i've been traveling, finally i've been getting out and about. i was in arizona, i was in mississippi. where the delta variant is just on fire. and i'm thinking about the people who have been most affected, and the fact that they don't really have a safety net. i think one of the things that we have to kind of realize, in the united states. the greatest country in the. world the most advanced country in the world, but really is keeping people going, is kind of community efforts. community efforts to keep people fed. especially now if they lose these unemployment benefits, or if there is a possible eviction.

it's a particular moment in the united states, where it's like neighbors are helping neighbors, but to me, the problem is how does that jive with the fact that were the most advanced country in the world. with all of this great technology, but people in our country are suffering right now. >> murray is telling us we need community efforts, you wrote the book on it. before you tell me your solution, hopefully everybody's listening and casey have a good one. i want to play a piece of sound that we have, from someone who also was depending on these jobless benefits. whose life was drastically chains after losing their job. >> we don't ever anticipate it happening. 18 months ago my family was thriving. a two earner home, a household both of us working, successful. this pandemic has been a rude awakening for us. and has significantly altered the path of our life. that we can to dissipate. >> this pandemic has been a rude awakening for so many

americans. and she's completely. right there is no safety net for so many of these americans. but this is not something new. this is been persistent for quite some time, and the disparity that we have in our country right now. financially. has been front and center, especially during this pandemic, and the reason natural disasters we've experienced. the flooding. how do we fix it? what do we do? >> well one thing we have to, do obviously, marie is, rate is strengthen or safety. night this is where the bill that is winding its way through congress. the 3.5 trillion dollars becomes so critical. it's not as if the pandemic is going away. in fact pandemics are not going away. people need the help that is in this 3.5 trillion dollar bill. they need help with child care. they need help with a safety net that is stronger. they need to make sure that their children, in fact all of us have a responsibility to make sure that child poverty drops.

it's all in this bill. i think the real question is, is there enough urgency, do people care enough, is there enough sense that the timing is right. to get this bill, actually enacted. along with the infrastructure bill. both are critical. >> do you think people do karen? if >> i think that people care enough, but i've been around for too many years. do you believe that it's easy to get stuff through washington. you've got right now, the public is not only distracted by the pull out of afghanistan, and the administration is distracted. but also the democrats have not really had a chance yet to explain to the public what's in this bill. i know bernie sanders is out, there and some other democrats are out there. but the public really does need to be educated, if they know it and they understand, they will support it and if they supported, chances, are their representatives or their senators, particularly

democrats, will vote for. but there is that big barrier of understanding, and the big barrier of getting the knowledge out there about what's in the bill. >> he said the key phase which is chances. are i go back to the person that we have talked about most over the cast the couple of months. which is joe manchin. and we know where he stands now on this reconciliation bill. are democrats worried he won't get on board? and it won't get across the finish line? you are advising republicans and democrats right, now specifically democrats. what do you tell them. in how to get the reconciliation bill across the finish line? >> susan first, then robert i'll come back to you. >> what joe manchin is said is that he has a hard time wrapping around the 3.5 trillion dollar number. that's not to say that he may not be happy with 2.5 trillion dollars. >> they've already significantly. let's be clear, they've already

significantly reduce the price tag, that joe biden put out. that the president put out in the first place. on top of that there were significantly produced price tag for infrastructure is. well it's important to note. that if joe manchin is asking to reduce the 2.5 trillion, you full well know susan, because i know you know politics quite well. progressive democrats will not get on board with, that and they will have a whole other problem. >> they will unless there's something else. we just don't know what happens behind the scenes, i think it's completely possible that maybe they go for 2.5, 2.8 trillion dollars. and joe manchin allows a carve out for voting rights. there's a lot at play. there's a lot of moving parts, frankly, this is where president biden excels. in moving those pieces around the board. i do think there is something to be said. there will be some kind of compromise. where everybody can live with it, but let's not also forget, right now joe biden needs a win. and that's with the administration is going to be

focused on. i do not think the democrats will allow everything to fall apart, and offer nothing. at the last effort, when it comes to his domestic policy, joe biden may also have to come in and say you know, what it's time to get rid of the filibuster. because frankly, the republicans will do it the moment they get power back. as a result, i think it says -- so far. we >> haven't heard, it but i do think that biden does have the ability to move some things around. again, if democrats need to be motivated here's where you could be motivated by. saying i won the minority, and i couldn't get an agenda through, and now we also got rid of the filibuster. >> how do you think progressive democrats would react to the president moving some things around? and the possibility of reducing the reconciliation bill to 2.5 trillion dollars. but to maybe get a win on voting, writes which would mean

doing away with the filibuster? that to me sounds far out. i'm just putting that out there. but, anything is possible. so weigh in for me first maria. >> here's what i think. we're making some generalizations, right but the people really would like to see much more, i don't know if susan will agree with this, i'm sure robert, we'll but much more progressive action on the part of this administration. radically more progressive. so the kind of chipping away makes it difficult. on the other hand, voting rights is essential. otherwise this democracy will fall apart. but, i think that what needs to happen with the democrats. as they need to maintain control of the narrative, do not allow the republicans to take control of the narrative as they've been trying to yet again. and you have to be more radical, again, i think that's what's going to lead joe biden to make sure that he gets the immigrant vote. make sure he gets the latino

and let seen a vote. which is the second largest voting bloc. they are expecting a president to react more radically. in the face of ida, climate change, afghanistan, refugees, texas with the supreme court, and women being denied access to reproductive rights. there's so much that's coming out, us i feel like people want to see a much more progressive, much more progressive, which does make it difficult for a middle of the road democrat. but i think that's where they need to go. >> robert, you talked about the fact that voting rights is correlated with the economy. so weigh in for me, on that. first and foremost. and also, if bernie sanders was sitting on this panel, he would say listen 3.5 trillion dollars is still not even enough. to do what we need to do. across the board. >> bernie sanders actually agreed to 3.5. but that was much less than joe biden originally wanted. and i think the problem, here for the democrats on the hill.

is that the window of opportunity is closing, very rapidly. you have nancy pelosi september 27th is the deadline that she agreed to. for putting the infrastructure bill before the house. but there are a lot of progressive democrats in the house, who say we do not want to vote on the infrastructure bill separate from the 3.5 trillion dollar social safety net. bill and so it's all going to come to a had very very rapidly. and joe manchin, and bernie sanders are going to have to work this out, with joe biden. i absolutely agree that joe biden is an inside player. he's going to be there working with manchin, and sanders. but the thing that worries me most is voting rights. as you said. voting rights is a key. but voting rights is not in the 3.5 trillion. it's not in obviously the infrastructure, it's separate. and it needs a carve out from the filibuster. and that's going to be the biggest fight of the fall. >> couple of things you said.

do you think because of this deadline, do you think that they should be voting in tandem on infrastructure and reconciliation? or separate? >> you're asking me? yes robert. i think in tandem. that's where she promised the progressives, and she said that there would be a vote, she said to the moderates. the mod squad on the hill. there would be a vote by the 27th, but she said the progressive, it will be at the same time as the vote on the 3.5 trillion, so she has somehow. have enough of a bill in front of her, to put them both before the house it exactly the same time. it's going to be very rough three and a half. weeks >> another follow-up i have for you robert. to you think the reconciliation bill, and infrastructure could actually significantly make a dent in the economic disparity that we have in this country? so americans are not suffering the way they are right now? do you think it has a real case for? that >> it would make a big big difference.

we know that the child tax credit, which is a refundable benefit, that brings down the child poverty rate by half. by 50%. in this year, which needs to be made permanent. and that's, relative to the cost of defense, and military, and much more big other expenses, this is very small. but it would be very significant, imagine bringing child poverty down by half. but we also need to pay for it, and this is the other part of the inequality equation. because in this bill, our tax increases on the wealthy, and corporations, they are lobbying like crazy in washington right now, they don't want tax increases. but it's necessary. it's fair and it must be done. >> meanwhile leah billionaires trying to go to space. when some americans don't have a bill to keep their pants on. it's that much of a difference in what's happening in this country. last question to you, saying you've been out about and talking to folks. do you boot feel like americans have a grasp time what's inside these bills?

>> no. not at all. in fact, i think what's worrisome, is in the last administration, there was so much fluster that people were kind of paying attention all the time. now people are like ok we're in this plateau of pandemic, that just won't go away, and desperation. i do worry. i think robert is right at the very top. how do you get people to understand and grasp this. it's very difficult. there's a lot of suffering that's going on right now, and that's what we're talking about. i'm not sure how are going to make it through. except helping one another. which is kind of desperate. >> it's very hard to grab something like. this that you know will eventually help, you when you are suffering so much. when i was a reporting on this storm last week, walking to someone who just lost everything, doesn't know where they live. and then spend the time to figure out okay this is something that i need to call my state senators. office i need to call my congress person about. to make sure they're supporting it. it's hard. when people are suffering so much. robert, maria, thank you all

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the probe into trump or is heating, up as men handier prepares for his retirement this coming december the new york times reporting that prosecutors are waiting tax related crime charges, against trump organization chief operating officer, matthew calamari senior. the executive used to be trump's bodyguard, and prosecutors last week may have gotten a little close to evidence they need. because his son, matthew call me junior, also a trump org executive, testified under oath before the grand jury, former

trump organization executive, said his testimony would be useful. >> his kid. he's going to be useful. you can talk about his own perks, perhaps his father's perks. and maybe some other information. i'm encouraged by. >> father and son last week saying, they've done nothing wrong. and have nothing to hide. joining me now is former prosecutor and former watergate prosecutor to -- welcome to you both. thanks for joining us on. this everybody's been lane up your twitter about my. pin thank you for always wearing the best pins when you join us. i want to start with you. i want to kind of just get the news, of the possible criminal charges. what does this say about the criminal probe right now? >> it's still a hot investigation. it's active. it's ongoing. there's those in the trump sphere, and family. who are doing a victory lap when the first set of charges were announced.

clearly that is not going to be the last set of charges, they are turning up the heat, and frankly, going after the sun, is a pretty a hyper aggressive move. i remember when i was interviewing for a position at the u.s. attorney's office 20 years ago. and i was asked as an interview, question would you cooperate a child against a parent, or parent against a child. and i was like it's a tough one. they are not messing around. they are going gangbusters, in pursuing all avenues. so, the reports are, that camera junior, and the cfo or the controller, were both in and both apparently have information about calumny senior. in certainly against others. and so, oftentimes prosecutors will pick off the low hanging fruit. and they will try and cooperate up folks who have actual information.

against those who are more senior within the organization. here that could be calumny senior. it could be weisselberg or other targets as well. >> this is a live case. so jill, does it seem like calorie jr. is the low hanging fruit? and it will point to we get the fruit on top of the? trey >> will of course the top of the tree to me, is donald trump. and that will take, more than tell him or a junior has, we don't really know if he has direct knowledge of donald trump. we have to wait and see on that. but i think that it is absolutely correct, this is a live case. i think they will be hoping to wrap it up, well vance is still the district attorney. he is not running, he did not

run for reelection, and there is a new district attorney that will start in december. and they have spent a lot of resources, going to the supreme court twice, to get the tax returns of donald trump. they have already indicted, weisselberg. the cfo. it is certainly possible that they will now indict the c o o, who is kelly marie senior. and i think that there is a lot going on. if we look at the case. people have said, oh it's just a benefits. case fringe benefits that were not reported, it is not that. this is a 15-year fraud. it's a conspiracy. it's doubled bookkeeping. they kept fraudulent books. so it's much more than that. and everybody says, -- nothing happens at the trunk organization. that donald trump did not know about. the chances are, he knew what

was going on. he wrote checks. for weisselberg's children's, grandchildren's tuition. so we certainly knew about that. and that's why we have a big case going. >> aside from camera junior testifying before a grand jury. what does it mean that county senior could be indicted in the coming months ahead of the da's retirement? >> the evidence we've seen so far, suggests that he got the same apartment, and car benefits, that weisselberg got. and reported them in the same way. we do not know that yet. i have seen his tax returns. i do know know how he reported. i don't know how the company accounted for, it i know that they fraudulently accounted for weisselberg. i'll call them fringe benefits even though i've just said it's more than a fringe benjamin case. it would seem likely, that he is a target. the fact that he was not

subpoenaed to testify, is because in new york, they have a very strange rule, that is not, common that is, if you testify before the grand, jury you are automatically immunized, and cannot be prosecuted for anything you testify about. so you don't want to put anyone before the grand jury, that you think you might indict. in the fact that senior kelly murray, was not before the grand jury, even though he's likely s.e. ceo has more knowledge, makes me believe he is a target. >> jill talked about cy vance in his retirement. and the likelihood that he'll wrap this case right before he retires. we've known about this retirement for quite sometime. it's been up to a year that we've known that he is going to retire. the likely replacements, is alvin break. i want to take a listen to his answer, when asked about the trump probe. >> i lead the team, that held trump and his children accountable for their misconduct with the trump

foundation. i go where the facts go. i do know that in complex investigations, i've come into them late in this stage, before been brought and tried to complex cases, i know it's important to have consistency and continuity. >> what is the motivation to wrap this up before he retires? and if he does not? how does that complicate things if it changes hands? >> i fully agree, i am certain he is motivated to wrap this, up before he leaves, office it will be legacy case for him. he has presided over this for almost two years now, and so i think he will feel responsible, to wrap up the charges, or at least get them in pretty good shape, before he leaves office, i'll say, i've known alvin for many many years, as a friend, but also as a federal and state prosecutor, it's exactly as he, said he will follow the evidence where it goes. he's dog, he's meticulous, he's

smart. he if he will if it is not wrapped up, he will look at it very closely himself. he will scrutinize the. evidence and he will go exactly where the facts in the evidence and the witnesses take him. if it's not wrapped up, it will be in very good hands. >> thanks to you both ladies for joining us on this labor day evening. coming up everybody, nbc's new podcast goes inside the fight over his school diversity plan, that is tearing one small community apart. plus a texas judge temporarily stops the states new restrictive abortion, lob it will is supreme court weigh in? and shrimp on a sculpture, of mount rushmore. a governor is involved, all that and more ahead, stay with us. that and more ahead, stay with us

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rights advocates, fighting against the new texas abortion law. attorney general garland, announcing the full support of federal law enforcement, for abortion clinics, under attack. in a texas judge issuing a temporary restraining order, against an anti abortion group blocking it from suing health care provider planned parenthood, for now. meanwhile lift in uber of our to covering uyghur fees for any

drivers sued under the new law. and the website, hosting service, go daddy pulling the plug on an antiabortion website, that allows people to report anonymous tips. and suspected abortions. just the latest in an escalating fight, over texas's heartbeat bill. which bans abortions after six weeks. before many women even know their pregnant. some republicans are speaking out against this law is. well >> this bill in texas seems to be a bit extreme, with this problem of bounties for people that turn in somebody that drove someone to an abortion clinic. >> for me i'm pro-life. but what i don't like to see, is this idea of every citizen being able to tattle. sue an uber driver, as you said, be deputized to enforce this abortion law, to whatever they want. >> six states expressing interest in passing similar, laws with all eyes on the supreme court's conservative justices. joining me now is the senior

correspondent for new york magazine. and coauthor of notorious rbg. also nancy, a civil rights attorney. i want to play first, this piece of sound, a pro abortion. ad for often political activists, don winds look. >> if i'm be in an raped in the state of texas, i have to give birth to the baby of my rapist. if i am raids by my father. my brother. my uncle. and get pregnant in the state of texas. i have to give birth to the baby of my family abuser. this new law is soldier kony, and i can be prosecuted for having an abortion, and so can my doctors, friends and family who advise. me or even the uber driver who simply drives me to the clinic. this is madness. the same people who have been protesting in screaming, my body my choice, when it comes to the covid vaccine, are now saying, i don't have any control over my own body. shame on the men and women who passed this law. in shaman anyone who sits in

silence why women suffer and die because of. it >> i want to start with you on this, one that was a really emotional ad, i have to say, about the texas law. and it struck me, when this thing passed, especially in the supreme court, that had justice bader ginsburg, not passed away, and been replaced by amy coney barrett, we would be having a very different conversation today. >> yes. that's a painful question about what would've happened, because of course, justice ginsburg spent a lot of her time on court descending including many abortion cases. it's not clear, that chief justice john roberts would have sided with the liberals, the way he did in this texas. case if it would've made a difference to the vote total. of course he did uphold the precedent that struck down an abortion law in 2020. so it may well have been a different results. but chief justice john roberts is always been opposed to

abortion, so to my mind, the most fundamental shift on the supreme court rat and when anthony kennedy retired. i think justice ginsburg, because he was a defender of abortion rights. and when he retired, it actually change the vote count. that said, every vote on the supreme court counts. and at the very least, justice ginsburg were still with us, and we are about to mark the one year anniversary of her death, i am certain that she would've been robustly defending the rights of texans. to have dominion over their own body, to end a pregnancy if they see fit, for that alone, it's an absolute tragedy that she's not with us. >> i was talking in the last hour, to his, senator and she brought up the mississippi case that will be heard in the supreme court banning abortion after 15 weeks. which would essentially overturn row. can we all but assume, at this point, that we know, how the vote count will fall?

considering the decision made in this texas law? >> yes, that's why biden and the democrats have to immediately fix the supreme court. the republicans stole a sea, for obama. they put amy coney barrett there, during an election. voting had actually started. and, kavanaugh, accused rapist, credibly accused rapist. they have pack the court, and we have to fix it. we have a radical supreme court. be holding two very right wing ideologies. in the idea that they would let this law sit there, and not stop, it is outrageous, the majority said it was novel and complex. it's not novel or complex. it's much like the ku klux klan act. stopped, catching slaves in

free states, after the dred scott decision. bounty hunters were allowed to go into free states, and steal slaves back, and bring them back to the south, and after the civil war, our congress passed the ku klux klan act. which gives you the right to sue individuals, who act under of state law, who valerie lights of others. that's exactly what's happening here. it's not complex. in the supreme court has ruled twice, that that is acting undercover of state, law if this state law gives private rights, of action, that help you violate other citizens rates. it's really an outrageous decision, and it's a lie that it's complex or novel, it's kind of novel that they're using it for abortion, but even in 1973, the supreme court ruled that a state cannot delay k veto power over abortions, to individuals. so it's not that novel, and it just shows how far right-wing the court has become.

>> aside from fixing the supreme court as you put it nancy, how do you challenge this texas law? >> since they stopped a hearing that was supposed to take place today, i don't know how you stop this radical -- think out we have garland in the department of justice, we have to criminally prosecute, under the face act. which is an act that protects women's rights, to actually go to an abortion provider, and get medical care for reproductive decisions, that are supposed to be private. so the face act, should be very vigorously enforced. and entities that go into court and try to stop providers, and uber drivers, and friends and family who supported women's rights, to make her own medical decisions, they should be criminally charged, under the face act. not just civilly. we need to fight this as hard as we can. because these people are ruthless.

and they will do anything. if you've been near an abortion clinic recently, and i have, it's so abusive to women, what is happening there, they had bright lights out, the minute this became lot, on september 1st, looking into women's cars, how do you know how pregnant a woman is by the way. most women don't know they're pregnant by six weeks, but how do you know? that does the law give them the right to violate hipaa, and to get women's medical records? it's as was pointed out in that when wonderful piece. these are people who say you can't force me to wear a mask to stop a pandemic. so it's very difficult how we will fix. this >> erin go ahead. >> one of the issues with the face acts, with respect to this texas law, is that the tools are limited. a lot of the clinics in texas have either close their doors, or because they are afraid of getting sued, just financially

route is fashion under this, law they're no longer performing abortions, after six weeks. so some of the statements of support that you cited in the introduction to the segment, they're really just nibbling, it's sort of at the edges of what this lies about. because an uber driver cannot be charged, or anybody's aiding and abetting, it cannot be charged unless someone is getting an abortion after six weeks. and the providers in texas, at least getting an abortion at an abortion clinic, as opposed to some kind of surreptitious way. which is certainly going to increase under this, law and hopefully people can do so safely. but right now, if you are an abortion provider in texas, you are not providing abortions after six weeks. we don't even have to get those bounty hunters, they don't even have to get those bounty hunters, on the trails of individuals who are seeking medical care. because they've already won. by shutting down abortions after six weeks. the face act. maybe really important in other states that are not texas or in

the clinics that are still providing limited services, up to six weeks. but we all know that what happens in texas is not going to stand texas. individuals are already seeking abortion care in states nearby, they're going anywhere that they can find, if they have the means to travel. and at those clinics we all know that every time abortion is in the public eye, this is a daily reality clinic, they can always get worse. the violence in the intimidation outside the clinic accelerates. it is already, i've reported it many many abortion clinics. it's already a scary situation to walk, and in the individuals are just women and other people who are getting abortions, or just trying to get their medical care. and they are screamed, i and they are expletives, and there are threats of violence. and to the extent that enforcing the face act will predict abortion in other states that's great. it won't make a difference to the fact that you cannot get an abortion at a clinic at after six weeks in texas. >> this conversation needs to keep. going aaron and nancy, thank

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racist video. >> it was a wealthy idyllic town. forced to confront racism. >> my children were told, rosa parks is dead, you all have to sit at the back of the. bus >> when the scoreboard presented its plan, a small town fight ignited a national firestorm. >> this is south lake. >> the third episode of the podcast drop, today highlighting how political figures, allen west work, went behind the scenes to stop a liberal takeover. >> the most important elected position in the united states of america's school board. if you are not invested in making sure, that your children are getting a quality education, instead of an indoctrination, and the way that continues on, if we don't get control of these school boards. the left, is very strategic. in what they are doing, if you are here to be a part of his state, understand with the second amendment about, is because as long as you, are you

wary citizen. if you are disarmed, you are a subject. if you can be here in texas, if you don't understand, that go back to where you came from. >> joining me now is nbc news correspondent and cohost of south. lake i'm so happy to have you want to be with you. because this podcast is so incredible. and i was taken the first moment i started listening. to its so. brilliant it's so needed. and so many of my friends, that i've been hearing, from about this podcast have said to, me it reminds them of their own school experiences. these microaggressions. things that they kind of put in the back of their minds. they never thought that they never really realized, what was being said about them. a couple of things. what do you want people to take away from south lake? >> first thanks so much, it's really heartening to hear. and that's why my co-host and i set out to do this work. people have watched this fight

over critical race theory, which is really a tug of war over the american story, rather than what we want to believe a better identity. about what parts of our history we're comfortable talking about. and we watch that play out. south lake became clear and it was at the center of. this their fight got started in 2018. before critical race theory was a phrase most americans knew about. and it started with this video that came, out that you showed in the clip right, there and it first at this time, these issues were politicized, when the plan to address racism in the district is ready in 20, 20 after george floyd's murder, all of this becomes politicized, racialized, and now there's a restraining order that blacks any work on this. plan what we've heard since the series came out, is that people say the story of self lake is the story of their. tone even if they're far far away from texas, these same issues of diversifying towns, people trying to grapple with the reality of how different types of people came to this, country what it means to be american for them. and having those messy and

uncomfortable conversations. that is happening everywhere. it's comforting for them to be able to hear from a tizzy. how did we all get. here >> i have a good friend who's texted me constantly what's happening in her, town in her meetings, and it's really troubling to her, in trying to figure out how to, change in what's to do, and people getting hurt the most are the teachers. the educators. and the kids. just quickly. what was the most troubling thing that you found? in looking at south lake? >> one of the most troubling dynamics i would say, is that when you look at a lot of the early reporting on this situation, when you talk to folks there, they center the voices of local politicians, like allen wet she immense, in powerful parents, well-known administrators are teachers of the district, but the kids are often left out. when you're at the school board meetings, they don't get to talk about the education that they want or they believe they deserve. and so there's all these adults, at each other's throats, fighting over these issues.

but the people who are actually going to live with the consequences of what happens, if there's been diversity plan in place, that's the children. they are consistently excluded from the conversation, even directly discounted at times. we try to do the opposite and our reporting. >> it's so. good congratulations my friend. it's such an important conversation to be. having hopefully people will be having conversations around their dinner tables, after taking a listen to the podcast. listen wherever you get your. podcast it looks like donald trump, finally got his wish. he has been added to mount rushmore, kind of. so the daily beast obtaining this, never before seen photo, a replica stole sure of the monument with trump carved into the, rock you see it there, next, lincoln the sculpture was commissioned by the republican governor of south dakota. as a give. she gave it to the former president last year when he visited the monument, the sculpture is just over two feet wide, and one foot tall. there are two other copies by the way but it is not publicly

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