the 9/11. and it is a programming note we want you to know it premiers tonight, 9:11 tragedy. it premieres at 10 pm tonight eastern on on msnbc 10 pm and peacock. eastern that does it for on us. the readout with msnbc joy reid starts and right now. peacock. the readout hello joy. >> hello starts now with joy. hello. ari. thank you very joy >> hello much. have ari. we a great evening. will definitely be all right, watching. good everyone good evening, we begin the evening. let me get the readout tonight with the readout tonight with the right right wing fringe ring fringe that is that is just just desperate to desperate go mainstream to go mainstream. between qanon, the, alt-right in the extremist groups, the proud boys there is no question that extremism is on in this country. and it poses a real national security threat. in fundamental ways these extremists are five choosing fundamentalists bites. they are losing most of these fights it's counterintuitive

when most of us are freaked out and frightened about what is going on in this country. but in small and important ways, the culture wars who won email to rail -- this morning, we witnessed the statue of robert e. lee being hoisted up from its pedestal and being taken out for. good it's the last confederate movement -- monument be removed in virginia where it had loomed as a physical testament to white power for more hundred and 30 years. it was the defense of statues just like that one that brought a horde of torch wielding white nationalists to charlottesville to defend the confederacy. one in the end, they lost. the statue came down. today. and, fact many of the leaders behind this fascist rally have

had to face a rude awakening. as the new york times reports, the neo-nazi organizer richard spencer is an outcast in white fish, montana. unable to get a table at many of his restaurants. his organization has dissolved, his wife has divorced, him and he is facing trial next month in charlottesville. but says he cannot afford a lawyer. another organizer, andrew england, it is a 2019 judgment is against him for $14 million. an extremist like him who -- just knew that they could take their hate, mainstream. they are still dangerous. the charlottesville nazis faith is proof that they can be beaten. the same goes for the army of chugs who stormed the capitol on january six. despite the trauma that day and the loss, lives those insurrectionists ultimately failed to achieve their one goal of overturning the 2020

election and leaving trump in charge. biden was sworn in. anyway and the -- trump's little army is being prosecuted instead. if they are not in hiding or hiding behind their jobs in congress. that includes one of the most recognizable insurrectionist, jacob chansley, known as the qanon shaman. he has now repudiated the qanon movement and pleaded guilty. could be facing four years in prison. he does when we called the shaman anymore. good luck with. that the qanon is losing funds this year -- schools are teaching anti racism. crtc itself remains a part of college curriculum's. the book update of the 16 19 project is poised to be a bestseller. well and while anti-vaxxers have slowed the fight against covid, more than half of americans have been fully vaccinated.

and blue states, up to 70%. large portions of american support vaccines and vaccine mandates. these are small but encouraging signs, which is not to say that we don't have a real fight on our hands, we clearly do, but that fight is being joined and the majority is standing up. joining me now is tim wise, anti racism educator and author of dispatches of the race for, and mr. cunningham who is a podcast host. you too lucky souls signed up for the hardest job in television right now. it is my lord of the rings call out to the rest of us, the majority of us. because i think everyone right now is feeling down. is feeling demoralized, is feeling depressed. right? but i asked the two of you on specifically because when you look at it you take a step back

and you look at where the culture is, it isn't really moving. the alt-right never really did create itself a mainstream movement. i want to go to you first, tim, you have fought this fight before, you know it's cyclical, you have followed it against david duke as a young man. he never got to be senate or -- we feel like oh my god we are losing. but we have to take the small winds and re-energize ourselves based on them. >> i appreciate the attempt to look at the glass as has full. i try to look at it as well realistically as possible. david to didn't win his races. his goal was to move the narrative and the dialogue to the far-right, white supremacy. he lost the election but he won that night because six out of

ten white folks voted for him. and he moved further to the. right let's be, clear when a statue of robert e. lee comes down, only 130 years after was put up, and after 160 years after the war that this man fought against this country so as to maintain white supremacy and enslavement, we can take it as a victory. but we have to be realistic because if germany, that, say 130 years after the fall of nazism, that would be 2075, where to finally take down a statue of general rumble, the germans would be celebrating. but the germans would've had a statue of rubble. i don't want to rain on the narrative that you are offering. you are absolutely. right look, the vast majority of people in this country do not buy into this overtly

hostile, bigoted white nationalism. what we know is that hitler was imprisoned for a while before he came to power and the history of white rage is a cyclical one. so we want to at least acknowledge that the majority don't buy into that. but acknowledge also that it is never taking a majority to push authoritarian or to tele-therrien, fascist white supremacist politics. it takes a committed group of people. which these folks very clearly are. i totally hear that, britney, look maybe it's because my name is joy, that might be the problem. i try to find something -- or maybe i am a load of the rings person. and i'm not saying that frodo is about to throw that ring into more door. but i'm saying that we are at the part where he beats the spider. the reality is, this is a longer. and i think of south africa. lot there is that song, there's

something inside so strong, the higher you build your barriers, the taller i become. and i think of the south africans, including some family members of, mine who literally lived almost their entire lives under apartheid. and if you ever get to the point where you say, we can't beat the sons of inches, i feel like you've already lost. so i think of your fight. george floyd unfortunately is gone. but they're never gonna get rid of black lives matter. that thing is here. do you take comfort in that? >> i take comfort in the data. as you've shown us is that we are more than they are. the data is that we can win when we set our minds to it. and the data, frankly, is that divine justice is on our side. who have taken on

insurmountable tests and have been victorious and use that as an opportunity not to put myself on the back or to take a victory lap, but to get myself fuel for the next fight. because the truth of the matter is, we need the kind of courage and power that we are seeing on the grassroots to infect our leadership at every level. we see people like zion bryant who was 14, 15 years old in charlottesville, virginia when she started along with others the fight to take down the statues that we have seen come down in charlottesville and richmond. we have seen black commissioners and memphis doing the same. think we have seen like hail or read, to shower, jones in my hometown of st. louis, trying to close the jail. and doing so much work that people thought was impossible. guess what, we need the folks that we elected to be just us, if not, more courageous. the problem, as we are seeing a lot of people who are already suffering from the most oppressive circumstances showing the most courage and bravery, and taking on the most

insurmountable fights. meanwhile, we took on one of those fights in november. and we overwhelmingly elected a party that we want to be partisan. we want to stop playing nice in the sandbox with people who have thrown out the rulebook. we have talked a lot about the hypocrisy of the gop, and that's, right we should call out the truth of what they are. doing they are saying, my body, my choice, about being anti vaxxer's ball effectively banning abortion access in texas. they are doing so all over the country. the thing about it is that the gop knows they are ridiculous and they do not care. they would love for us to keep talking about how ridiculous they are. instead of frightening -- supplying the game that they want to keep playing. so we need a president who refuses to decide a infrastructure bill until meaningful can -- enter and the constitutional right to abortion access through legislative action. we need folks who see all of these people dying from

flooding, and tornadoes, and hurricanes, and we need them to read the road and pass real meaningful climate change legislation. we need folks to recognize that poverty wages are no longer acceptable because people have found a glitch in the matrix and need a 15 dollar minimum wage. i see the power from the people and the people are demanding that we see the people from our leaders. >> i understand the assignment. this is not a serve into the right. i don't care. a tiny minority. they are no longer but a third of the adult population. this is a servant to our side. because the way they fight is when they lose and they say they are. winning donald trump, there are lord and savior. came out today and said, -- if only we had a fighter like robert e. lee. do we have a photo of him

surrendering, completes, total surrender to ulysses as grant? loser, loser! loser, surrender, because you lost. they lose like they are winning. and we win like we are losing. i'm talking about -- i want to see a fight like the texas people who said i will leave the state. i want to see a fight like mitch barber redoing. this is what we. lack we've been like we are. losing these people lose and say they are winning! >> what makes them dangerous is that because they are still ideologically driven to this particular kind of goal of this maximalist white nationalists country, they will fight as if, and i think many times believe, that the country is on their side. and this actually creates an opening for progressive people. if you govern like, not even govern because they are not in power right, now but if you act as if the country is behind you,

you overplay your hand. so here is an opportunity for those of us who are progressive and talking about real justice economic justice, racial justice, just no justice, all of these things, to take advantage of that opening. these are folks who really believe, i, gather that joe biden got like 11 foods. and everyone else voted for donald trump. i think they believe. that i think the reason is they lived in the silos where nobody they know supports black lives matter. where nobody they know supports a woman's right to reproductive autonomy. so in there, world there is like 11 of us and we all get on your show, and we talk to one another, and that's it. >> you are right, but the reality is we are the majority. it's not 11 of. as we are the majority. >> right but because they overplay -- >> we keep acting like -- >> go ahead britney. >> we keep acting like we don't have the power that we have. look, joe manchin is a monster of the democrat's own making. because the more you keep

feeding the beast and telling them that they have control over you, they will exert that control. so instead of carrying in the face of one man, who by the, way is in a state where there's a broad support for a shift in voting rights legislation, and joe manchin's west virginia. there is data from fair fight that the majority of people want congress and the president to sign a bill that actually protects the right to. vote and here is the senator holding. it up so is that -- the filibuster. get the work done. morally and editorially, that's what has to happen. y and editorially, that' what has to happen a man. look at my producers telling me to wrap up. practice fighting on your own. practice fighting with joe manchin. fight him for so you can learn how to fight the right. if you want to let him walk you like a dog, then he is going to let them do it because he's obviously opened the door and said they can. practice fighting. see how it feels. it's gonna feel good to you.

that's with the other side does. you guys are. great the real world consequence of the texas abortion law. according -- to women's girls are forced to travel to neighboring states. plus, high stakes in california. vice president kamala harris campaigning for governor gavin newsom. talk about needing to. fight and be sure, to watch msn bc's special memory box, echoes of 9/11. including the recollection of those who are there 20 years ago. >> let's go! let's go! at this point i looked at my mom and my family and i said this is crazy. let's get out of. here that's. go i thought we should just start walking away from the wall trade center. because it might fall. and i said that. people said that you cannot get

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voter suppression election next year with greg abbott signing his so-called election integrity bill into law yesterday. well it is demoralizing, the situation might not be entirely on salvageable. several groups of file lawsuits against the law, saying it violates the first and 14th amendments. in the voting rights act of 1965, but specifically it burdens black and we teen owe voters as well as those with disabilities in limited english proficiency. that would depend on courts ruling in favor of those groups, and we just saw what happened with texas, they had to delay on a court to stop its bounty hunter abortion law. it all comes as their neighbor mexico just decriminalized

abortion. the situation is dire in, texas with patients flocking to other states, an overwhelming already strained clinics. nbc's priscilla thompson spoke to a clinic director who said yesterday two thirds of their patients in oklahoma, and half of their patients in kansas, were from texas. >> this is just so cruel, this is nobody's business about whether people should receive this care or not. for the state of texas to be telling their citizens to go out of state during a pandemic for uphill. in for a five minute procedure. it's cruel. and i wish we could see everyone. i am not, if we open the clinics 24/7, i'm not sure we would be able to see all the people who need care. >> communications director for that clinic says they're also seeing more patients under 18. and in their second trimester,

since texas banned was implemented. meanwhile in washington, 22 house democrats signed a letter to attorney general, calling on him to take legal action into prosecute would be vigilantes, attempting to sue patients and providers. i'm joined now by washington democratic congressman mitt, who is a signee of that letter. she's also the chair of the congressional progressive caucus. in a member of the judiciary and budget committees. as well as matthew, doubt -- congressmen, the letter you signed calling for more action, do you have specific ideas of mine and what you would like the administration to do? >> yes, we believe, and i believe the attorney general is with us on this. and has made statements towards this end, we believe that the department of justice can challenge anybody who is trying to undermine constitutional rights, under the cover of a state law that is unconstitutional. that is not appropriate. sort of mayorkas said that in her a decision she wrote.

we believe the attorney general is in the same place, and they are looking at all the tools that the department of justice has. to ensure that they can challenge. somebody. basically these are bounty hunters joy. we are allowing people to say that they are going to get $10,000 for is excessive a lawsuit, for undermining constitutional. right that's essentially with the texas law is doing. we think the department of justice can do. this we have urged them to do, it the chairman of the judiciary committee is very clear on. this in all of us on the judiciary committee are clear, this is with the department of justice needs to do. >> so matthew, the thing that we're seeing. is that i don't know why texas republicans thought they could just sign this in a room mostly full of men, cheer for and keep it moving. and that they want to, and now they find themselves in a position, of trying to characterize rape. as if texas doesn't have the most rapes in the united states.

statistically. their number one, and they're now trying to argue backwards. and say no, rape is already illegal. like i think if you're arguing rape is illegal, which yeah no kidding. you're actually losing the argument. do you get the sense that this is a case where they've overplayed their hand? and they are going to start to see a backlash that is real and potentially politically damaging? >> i think absolutely they overplay their hand completely. a two thirds of texans believe in roe v. wade. and the constitutional rights of a woman's rights to choose. that's two thirds of texans. the question is, will they be held accountable, and ultimately, that's up to us. because the only way that we held accountable. is next year's election. they will keep doing. this in a matter of fact we are supposed to have a redistricting session in a week and a half. on the call they put a legislation to get themselves involved in transgender sports. as well as banning banning mask

mandate masks. banding mandate masks. not only having a mask, but band-aid banding. i think it's ultimately up to, us every single thing they have done. we have a health care crisis in texas. where did they respond to? do they take away women's healthier choices. we have a gun crisis, we had a mass shooting at a walmart in el paso. a mass shooting insult texas. what's the response to that? make it easier for people to openly carry handguns without a permit. they've done all of these things, all incredibly unpopular. but in the end, they will keep doing them, unless we stop them. >> the resistance is not going to. and christine don't think she's gonna do the same thing. she's already doing more restrictions on abortion. this is sort of spreading all over the place. of court run desantis is going to try to do it too. look, the reality is, the resistance is not going to stop either. people are not going to lay down for this. sorry but women are not going to just go into gilead without a fight. and i don't think that republicans understand, how

hard women are willing to fight, for their liberty and their freedom to remain free people. >> that's right, one in four women across america has had an abortion, i happen to be one of them joy. i spoke out about it publicly a couple of years ago. because of all these restrictive laws that were coming up. this is not something where we are in the minority. we are, pregnant people who have had abortions, or who believe that they should have the right to make that choice about their own bodies. are actually the majority across the country. and that is why republicans have overplayed their hand. because they don't understand how personal this is to, people in this is not anyone else's decision, if i choose to have a child or not to have to terminate my pregnancy. or to keep my pregnancy. all the way, that is my choice. and whatever choice i make, is my choice. that's what people across the country understand. it's a very personal decision. people that try to compare it to mask mandates, are

completely in a different zone. because whether i have a baby or not, is not anybody else's choice. if i wear a mask, and i don't wear a mask and i infect somebody else. that affects everybody else. pregnancy is different. you and i understand that, and actually the majority of americans understand that as. well that is why, we have to have the department of justice, actively go out and prosecute these cases. but also to uphold the constitutional rights, and joy we need to pass the women's health protection act. we will do that in the house. when we come back, the next time. in a couple of, weeks we will pass it in the house, and then we need the senate, to pass it as well. because we have to protect this fundamental constitutional right. in shrine. it so that no supreme court can take it away. and make sure that we preserve this choice, for people across the country. >> you gotta get past joe,

manchin who will be happy to fight your own beacon feature inside. matthew i think we need to sort, of it's a question of expanding the imagination on the other side. the right has an unlimited imagination. there is no depth of their imagination. in how creative they are willing to be, to try to seize minority rule. and turn this country into some sort of hellhole, right-wing, gilead style country. with them at the top, there's no limit. and so i wonder if we need to be talking more about, the senate we can't trust people like manchin. i've heard talk of women suing people back, you sue me. i'm gonna sue you for 1 million dollars for emotional distress. i'm gonna sue you right. back talking about ellen's style talking about the federal government coming down and setting up federalize clinics, were everybody there, every doctor there is deputize to be able to perform health care for women. and they can't touch them because they qualified immunity, the problem here that the people on the majority, side are not thinking creatively enough.

and being willing enough to be aggressive as the people in the minority. are >> i think it's absolutely true. i've observed this both at the democratic campaigns and i worked for president bush. where i am, and i think the only vehicle that will save our country right. now is the democratic party, they are the only ones that believe in democracy and rule of the majority. and supposed to sit tyranny of the minority. i think democrats have not always thought creatively, and they keep playing by the markeese of queens very rules. and they're hoping that the republicans will come back and play that game the same way they will. they they won't. republicans are only concerned about governing to 5% of the country. they do not care about 50 55 60% of the country. let alone they just signed off half the population of the country, which is women in this country. but i think that is fundamental. the other thing i think democrats are not good. it is they let the republicans set the terms of the debate. they let them set and then they argue from the terms the republican set. this is not pro-life versus

pro-choice. this is not pro-life versus pro-choice, in the idea that we allowed publicans to grab pro-life when they don't care about funding cut help. here they don't care about doing anything about covid. they don't care about doing anything on guns. we should not ever let them have the words pro-life come out of their mouth. they're not pro-life. the pro-control. and pro birth. because after birth, god bless ship, but they're not going to help you at all in this process. we have to quit, the democrats have to quit letting republicans set the terms of the debate. >> i will expand that in the media. we have to think about the terms that were allowing them to use. because their policies on covid are directly pro death. they should never be allowed to say that they are pro-life, because they are demonstrably poor, power and demonstrably pro death. they're telling us that, and we need to listen to them. thank you both very much. still ahead, do you ever feel like we may be losing the war against covid misinformation? is it surprising?

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misinformation campaign on covid is winning major battles in the u.s.. adding further burnout to health care workers and turning once sleepy school board meetings into heckling, even violent scenes. cute qanon supporters are targeting a chicago hospital to bully doctors into giving a patient ivermectin. oh it with smirk, fights broke out after a school board voted in reinstate mask mandates. -- advocated for safety measures at this school. but the reaction from the adults in the room, told us exactly what we're up against. >> my grandmother, who was a former teacher at the

rutherford county school system, died of covid because someone wasn't wearing a mask. this is a very -- [noise] >> shut up. >> this is a very -- >> shut up. >> hey, guys. act professional. please, sir. >> thank you. >> this is an avoidable issue. >> joining me now is doctor gupta, a critical care pulmonologist. and then a, senior reporter for nbc news. ben, i want to start with you as i did last time you are on, because the amount of ratchet that has to been fed into your brain for you to laugh at a teenaged boy who's talking about losing his grandmother, your soul has been sucked out of you at that point. what is sucking these peoples souls out of them to the point where they're holding up signs saying, let our kids smile. like you can't smile with a mask on.

>> they realize that -- sorry, you guys there? >> you froze. yes. >> yes, joy. the audience in there is not that tiny little school board, right? the audience is that camera. that's why you see those signs displayed for the camera. taking over the school board meetings is a large scale in four more shun war right up in for the right right now. they can get off all these talking points they have. they can make them go viral in spaces. they can build local stars. at the community level. just like the tea party. that kid there, incredible briefly in front of that, knowing what he was walking into. i'm sure he has access to tiktok, to. so he knows exactly what he was walking into. that's the thing here. all of these things are ramping up towards viral moments that can be used in the information.

more >> and to your left with the detractors, dr. gupta. doctors who after them care for patients because you literally have -- and we're seeing more and more people that are pushing and, i can't believe that they're not getting paid and somehow making money on it -- pushing ivermectin. like this is the new symbol that you're in the club. that you're part of the team. that your pushing this thing and still turning of people away from getting the vaccine. and it's leaving people like you, but also politicians. here is governor jim justice of weapon for junior. going after anti-vaxxers. take a listen. ke a listen. >> for god sakes of living. how difficult is this to understand. why in the world do we have to come up with these crazy ideas? and they're crazy ideas. the vaccine has something in it and it's tracing people wherever they go. and the same very people that are saying that are carrying their cellphones around. >> no kidding.

how do you deal with the misinformation while also trying to deal with the health care, dr. gupta? >> you're muted. >> joy, we're entering these dangerous phases of the pandemic. well i was saying was, more zip codes across the country are entering something called crisis standards of care. and this is instant quds you wouldn't expect. northeastern cities. cities in the pacific northwest were basically decisions on care are happening as we speak. joy, you and i've talked about this for the last 12 months. we wanted to avoid this fatal come here and here we are. so when i think about the misinformation that still rampant, ivermectin for all those viewers out there, if you take a risk liver injury, kinder kidney injury. it's gonna kill your kidney and liver before any way it will

impact covid in your body. what we need to zoom out and look at is, we can actually care for those people in hospitals across the west coast that have high vaccine rates, because people are coming into the hospital for more reasons than just covid. they're coming in now for non covid respiratory vaccine versus. four procedures they've been putting off for 20 months. so to answer a question directly, what degree are we going to take these responsible decisions, how will that affect dirt in when we have to make rational decisions? >> let me -- you did an interview with a doctor talking about this subject. doctor david's one. a critical care in oregon health. take a look. >> i think ultimately, we are rationing care in some respects. we do this every day. when there's not enough supplies of personnel and equipment and beds. we can't care for everyone. and that's a really challenging situation that we're in right now. >> the challenge, we have a

short time, but i want to defer to doctor vin gupta. what does that mean for somebody who breaks an arm or a lake or gets a heart attack? or has a stroke? who's going to be prioritized right now in the er? is it going to be that strong patient, that cancer patient, or is it going to be these people who are coming in for covid? and is that the decision is going to come down to? >> bottom line, joy, it will sit clothes across the country's sickness. the acuity of in illness. critical care or not. and the problem there is, largely those people are unvaccinated, coming in with severe covid. this is about human resources for health. we've been reckoning with a lack of health personnel. part of the policy, human resources for health, we don't have enough specialist staff to care for the patients. >> do you ben collins, senator elizabeth warren has written a letter to amazon, urging him to step up the companies efforts to police these covid-19 misinformation purveyors. can you just explain, are

people getting money for pushing anti-vax and pushing ivermectin? are they getting? pete are they getting pete >> if not directly, than indirectly. so, the people who are pushing the anti vaccine next votives, they're also pushing summit to supplements. they're saying you have to strengthen your immune system. maybe last year we said covid isn't rail, but it is real. here's all the stuff that you can buy instead of that government made vaccine. go by my brain pills, will make you feel better. so that's the indirect way they do it. but they do it by selling for over and over again, and telling you you cannot trust the government, there's some other product. or, if there's no product, if they're still seeing covid is not real, you need to subscribe to my patriot. and then, by the way, there are those people that are just directly giving you either verdict. so there is that as well. there are those doctor selling you consultations on a telemedicine site. and that's a whole other thing. >> and you're getting that content for free. and when anything is free, you

are the product. think about that before you start listening and buying their supplements. doctor vin gupta and ben collins, thank you very much. wait till you hear until the twice impeached former president is planning to mark the 25th anniversary of 9/11. but next, the six days until the crucial recall election for california governor. why is the big deal? look at what's going on in texas and florida. and think about the children of california having to be subjected to that madness. we'll be right back.

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the california recall action comes to an end, vice president kamala harris campaign for governor gavin newsom today. she said it's part of a fight that's being waged across the country. >> you have to understand what's happening right now, what's happening in texas, what's happening in georgia, what's happening around our country, with these policies that are attacking women's rights, reproductive rights,

voting rights, workers rights. they think if they can win in california they can do this anywhere. will we will show them that you are not going to get this done. not here never. >> this is the sixth recall attempt against newsom since he took office, two and a half years ago. it's not taking any chances especially when this vote could have the potential to determine who controls the evenly divided u.s. senate. the white house says, president biden, will cam famed for newsom early next. week joining me now is california state superintendent of public construction. i'm glad that you're here sir, because one of the biggest things i think that's at risk, for california, if newsom loses. is the children in california public schools. this is a state of 39.6 million people, this is a guy who says that he does not believe, let me just play it real quick. this is a cut seen. >> i don't believe the science suggesting that young people should be vaccinated.

i don't believe the science suggests that young people should have to re-masks, at school. i'm not sure the science is settled on that at all. and young people are not likely to contract the coronavirus. and when they do their symptoms are likely to be mild. you're not likely to be hospitalized in. certainly not likely to die. >> california is one executive order by larry elder, from having mass death in sickness like florida and texas. your thoughts? >> things for raising it. i can't think of a more dangerous way to approach 6 million students in our schools. quite frankly, i have to call out the hypocrisy of larry elder. he himself is taking a vaccination. but he has said, his first quarter before his first cup of tea, would be to repeal vaccine and mask mandates. these are the very things keeping our children and adults safe. everything he is said is proven wrong. when told that more children are hospitalized because of the delta variant. and i just think that larry elder is showing that all he's

trying to do, is take advantage of this, recall to bring bad policies to the state of california. we are urging everyone, vote no on the recall. and keep a governor who's fought hard to keep everyone in our state safe. >> i would love to see how many ads for supplements is selling on his. show a lot of the people who are claiming to be vincent vexed, are also selling supplements. instead of pushing them to get the vaccine. this guy also, not only does he want to repeal all of these mandates. he believes that the minimum wage in california should be zero dollars. he believes systemic racism is a lie. i guess grown-up black in america has not taught him anything about racism. any also says that slaveowners are entitled and owed for reparations. that's the kind of reparations for. how is he the front runner among the republicans. i don't get it. do you. >> i don't get it at all. but i think it sends a powerful message that people need to show up, and make sure that they vote. i've already cast my ballot. we're allowed to vote by mail. and i'm urging everyone to do

the same. our vice president was here in our state today, campaigning with the governor, to get the message out. these are all very dangerous things that we have heard from someone who doesn't have a single stitch of experience, in serving in the community. instead, he would tear down everything that has been built, to support small businesses, so that people could earn a decent wage. leadership is about making tough decisions during tough times. gavin newsom has done that, 120 billion dollars for education, including universal preschool and universal meals. and not to mention the things that larry elder has said about race. it's an embarrassment, as an african american man. it's an embarrassment that he would say, that slave owners deserve reparations. and he would deny the impact of slavery on black people. i hate to say this, but he is clearly articulating policies that are not good for african americans. he's been anti immigrant. his policies are not good for our latin ex-community. i hope that african americans and latinos reject this.

person who is said these hateful things. that would take us backwards. rather than take us forward. >> are you concerned, very quickly. about turnout? rates because it seems like the polls are going in the governor's way, the question is turnout. are you worried about? turnout >> good turnout is key to this. the modeling that everyone is seeing right now shows that democrats and others who are voting, or who have voted. and that's a sign that bodes well for the governor. we can't take anything for granted. we have to urge all californians to go ahead and cast your vote. you can put it in the. mail you can vote on election day, vote no and this trump recall. >> by the way don't put larry elder in a position to put lakes stephen miller in the united states senate. if einstein retires. i think big people. and vote >> thank you very much. stay with us. you're just gonna be astounded about how orange julius caesar, has found a totally appropriate way to mark the 20th anniversary of the 9/11

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forgot what it's like to have a president who treats the anniversary of the september 11th terror attack with reverence. after four years of an untenable president with negligible respect for any loss of life's. the diggers grace former president who two weeks ago suggested that osama burnout in wasn't that bad, one of his many republican comments over the years. the very day of the attacks he back to a local news station, one of his buildings had now become the tallest in lower manhattan. it wasn't, and it is in, and that was chris. there were also his xenophobic lies while campaigning. >> i watched when the world trade center came tumbling down. and i watched in jersey city, new jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down. >> no, you didn't. that racist lie about muslim

celebrating was of course later refuted by video. and his claims of helping force respondents. well, there's no evidence of that. this year as a former president, he's not spending the anniversary in sober reflection. surprise, surprise. instead, he'll commemorate the occasion with his elvis feel some, john junior. giving boxy commentary for eventually feels return to the ring. for just $50 you can hear his thoughts on boxing. while the 20th anniversary of the attack on american soil. that in the real world, we're never forget actually mean something, president biden will travel to all three sites on saturday. lower manhattan, the pentagon and shanksville, transylvania. former president barack obama and first lady michelle obama will attend a ceremony in new york. former president george w. bush will speak at the memorial in pennsylvania, because that is what presidents do. tonight, you can hear the stories of september 11th from those who lived it, in their own words. as msnbc films presents memory box, echoes of 9/11. featuring video interviews of

recollections taken in the wake of the attacks 20 years ago and now. including daisy khan, who recalled grieving the attacks as a muslim woman. >> i wanted to be part of the renewal, of healing america. healing my faith. so, about ten years ago, we propose a community center. it is called the islamic community cultural center in lower manhattan. a beautiful place that would be for all. [noise] >> go somewhere else. >> but then, people began to attack us. >> i think it's just a spate in our face. i think they're laughing at us. >> and it really hurt me when they said, " not you, not now, and not here. i started receiving hate letters. after heat letters. but i also started receiving

love letters. and these letters always reminded me, to this day, that there indeed our two americas. >> memory box, echoes of 9/11, airs tonight commercial free at 10 pm. right here on msnbc. and that's tonight's readout. all in with chris he starts right now. start >> tonight on all in. ♪ ♪ ♪ a monument to an american traitor comes down as new laws to choke democracy go up. the state of the moral universe as robert e. lee finally leaves the old confederate capital. then just what is the justice department planning to do to stop and out of control government in texas. >> texas