weekend. we'll see you back here monday. don't go anywhere. >> say hi to vivica fox for me. tell her i'm a fan. have i just embarrassed myself on national tv? hi, vivica. but i mean it. >> when we get through all the covid, next time we'll bring you over. you'll be one studio over and get get some quality hustle time. >> that's a deal. i accept. have a great weekend. appreciate you. good evening. we begin tonight with a sigh of relief followed by a right wing meltdown. the president biden has announced far reaching new federal requirements to compel the millions of unvaccinated americans to get their shot, if you're like me, chances are you and those in your circle thought, finally. we finally don't have to worry about the unvaccinated bow

guarding our spaces and keeping the pandemic going. on the right, the freak out is already in full effect. we told you last night about texas governor, you have to be joking pledge to protect texans right to choose. really across the board the reaction has ranged from absurd to hysterical to frightening. mr. punch the pores told the working people of ohio only mass civil disobedience will save us. you going to leave that mr. investment banker. former ohio treasurer josh mandel expanded on those thoughts in a corn field. >> do not c comply with the tyranny. >> the president is calling for requirement to get tested once a

week or get vavaccinated. they are telling them to resist, which is i guess quitting your job which the opposite of the other demand that you get a job. this gustapo that's coming if your freedom, that is you. you're the one that has to decide whether you want to do what it takes to protect yourself and the rest of us or whether you would rather stay home and do your own research and probably catch covid and wind up clogging up an icu. cue the fully vaccinated poop peddlers at fox news. >> we begin with one of the most heinous displays we have seen from a president. i'm talk about joe biden's angry anti-american vaccine man date push earlier today. >> then say to the flight attendantss, show some respect for the flight attendants. maybe sochl the flight attendants ought to show some respect to us.

>> democrats and the media spent four years calling trump a tie rant. what we saw is more authoritarian than anything donald trump every tried. >> what? i guess she missed the parts where he refused to accept the election. south carolina's henry mcmaster said he would fight president biden to the gates of hell over the vaccine policy. apparently the south will rise again and die for a virus and go to hell to fight gettysburg part two. several are threatening to sue. >> this is not a power delegated to the federal government in is a power for states to decide. in south dakota we'll be free. my legal team is working and we will defend and protect our people from this unlawful mandate. >> again, to be clear, these governors are saying the hill

they choose to die on or more accurately let their own base die on is the determination to force as much covid as possible on their own populations so they can appeal to 25% of the population. president biden made it clear what he thinks of their threats. >> have at it. i'm so disappointed that some republican governors have been so cavalier with the health of these kids. so cavalier with the health of their communities. the vast majority of the american people know we have to do these things. they are hard but necessary. we're going to get them done. >> americans aren't irritated. they are sick of it for the angry unvaccinated, it's not about freedom. it's about a right to be dead. it's an argument for only a

quarter of americans. the rest of us are already partially or fully vaccinated and ready to get on with our lives. in a poll this week found among the unvunvaccinated, three quars support vaccination to go to an office. presiden governing for the majority. even the federalist and it 3w5i78 a trump thing. they said this is way back in 2015 before they turned into whatever they are now. they wrote a piece that was called the insane vaccine debate. we had mandatory vaccine policies in the u.s. since before the emancipation proclamation.

why are they controversial now. if you choose not to vaccinate, private and public institutions should be able to discriminate on that basis. talk a bit about the legal backing for what joe biden is doing and i guess it has to do with osha as rachel maddow explained last night. >> joy, i completely think this is a legal action by the biden administration and it's hilarious that republican governors discovered law. trump did all sort of unconstitutional things like the muslim ban and they were all about deference to the president in times of emergency and stuff like that. covid is true emergency not like muslim immigration or the caravan or the other things. there's truly a give me a break quality to what the republicans are saying. it's supposedly they say an overreach of government power to enforce the workplace standards

but it's reasonable to deploy unmarked federal agents to arrest protesters. correct me but the bill of rights only cover one of those acts and i'm pretty sure it's not the right to go to work unvaccinated. you're asking about osha. osha allows the government to regulate workplace safety and the test under the statue is the government must show that workers face a hazard in the workplace that poses a grave danger to health or safety. this obviously qualifies. i went to my first concert in 18 months and realized and knew the theater had been closed for 18 months. workplaces have been closed. hundreds of thousands of americans are dying. osha has so many regulations that they regulate, for example, whether you can have an open water bottle at work. if they can regulate that, i kind of think you're allowed to regulate whether or not they can deal with covid. >> welcome to reality. let's play you mentioned trump.

this is him claiming total authority over states. >> when somebody is the president of the united states, the authority is total. that's the way it's got to be. total. it's total. the governors know that. >> okay. it's different when it's trump. let's talk about the real world because these republicans are pretending like you don't have to get vaccinated for a whole bunch of stuff. you have kids. i raised kids in florida as well. you have to get vaccinated for a lot of things. just to go to school. measles, mumps, polio, tetanus. you pretty much got to get vaxed for a lot of stuff. your thoughts on what the politics are in your view as somebody who analyzes this stuff and analyzes polling for a living. who's got the stronger politics

here? the guy saying enough already or the people saying we have a right to die. >> the politics are rock solid for president biden because i think it's a mistake to try to present this as a president biden or biden administration mandate. this isn't coming from the president. it's coming from the american people and the american voter. 65% of voters are fully vaccinated. 75% of voters have already gotten one shot. we're on the way. those numbers are climbing still even as we speak right now. i think what's happening now is you're seeing president biden do what is appropriate in a democracy. he's not allowing a tyranny of the minority to impact how the rest of us, the clear majority in this case of americans who want to get back to normalcy and want to get back to life and want to get back to work and don't want to die. there is a cure out there. if people don't want to take it, they have that right but the

fundamental fact is, yes, here in america, you have the right not to take vaccine. you're free to do so. you're also free to leave the united states and if you want to recolonize and call it revakistan. this population won't last long. i think you will see it rise in polls in the days to come. >> or leave your job. stephanie ruhl. i saw you yesterday on nicole wallace show. you said something that i thought was so smart. i think the assumption is because people tend to think of republicans as the pro-business party is that they must have the pro-business take here. not among the business people i know and not among the ceos you talk to.

explain. >> first of all, i cannot believe neil said he went to his first concert. >> what was it? was it foo fighters? thanks for that. now i have fomo. >> let's be clear. this move yesterday was 100% supported by, thrilled by the business community. they want their customers back. you are going to see a bit of lawsuit here. this is what they wanted. this is the ultimate air cover. now the employees don't want it. now they will quit and work at the business down the street. now they can say not my rules. hate the game, not the player.

the government decided it. this is what the business community wanted. they are thrilled about it. >> yeah. let's talk about, 100%. >> the whole argument we have been hearing from republicans is they want to cut off the unemployment insurance because they want people to put that check down and come back to work. a lot of the reason people are afraid to come back is they don't want to get covid. they are afraid to go back into an environment where they don't know who is vaccinated and they are saying i'm going to bring covid home to my kid that can't get vaccinated. they are making a very rational calculation. if you take that off the table, guess what people are going to do. they will feel more comfortable going back to work and say good. at least i know i'm safe in that space. neil, talk about the postal service. this confused us a bit. here is what we have from the administration. osha will cover u.s. postal service through the emergency

temporary standard meaning postal workers will be subject to the vaccination policy announced. they are federal employees but they will be covered too, right? >> exactly. biden proposal is not just cover federal -- cover private sector workplaces but also federal employees and federal contractors and there's a difference suite of authorities that applies to regulation of private sector and over the government. president biden is wisely invoking both lines of authority here. it is really striking to me that republican governors are challenging this. in one sense i think you can call it brave because if i had botched pandemic response the way they did, i'd never show my face in public again. let alone put my name on some sort of attack on a coronavirus policy. it's kind of like paul von

hindenburg going on a national blitz tour. >> the other issue here is in terms of the way we have been living. we have been getting everything delivered. we all went into this lock down. a human has to come to your house. a person has to come to your house. if you're talking about making it safer, amazon will love that. all of these people who send stuff by delivery will love that. you're talking about the places where we're touched by other people that are outside our bubble if we think they are safe. i'm not a business reporter. aren't we going use those businesses more? >> 100%. joy, i have a child under the age of 12. even though i'm vaccinated and i think i can go everywhere, i can't. i'm taking lots of personal risks but i live with an unvaccinated person. if i can go to stores and businesses and restaurant that is i know are completely safe, i'm going to do a lot more business. this is great for the economy.

please remember, ceos out there want their customers back. they want their employees back. even if they are saying we're okay with work from home. we're extending the day, make no mistake, they want people back in the office asap. the only way they will get them back is if we're vaccinated and healthy. they want this. >> we are out of time. very quickly, isn't covid still biden's best issue? >> not only is it his best issue, it's the defining issue. as much as the republicans want to try to anchor him down with afghanistan, that's not the issue. it lives on saving us from covid and saving u.s. democracy. on the first issue, biden made some great progress this week. >> all i needed to do is say don't make me pull this car over on voting rights too and he will have lit the trifecta. you are great. have a great weekend. a doctor on the front lines fighting to keep abortion safe and legal in texas joins me. state officials offer a pathetic

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republicans continue to show their utter is no rans and disregards for women's constitutional right. they taunted them to come and take it with what appears to be an image of a fetal heartbeat and then there's attorney general ken paxton is claiming the founding fathers intended for texas to pass an anti-abortion law to place a bounty on women. >> they wanted states to be the experiments for democracy to try things in different ways. every time we make a move whether it's on election or abortion or anything that's good for our people, they come in, biden comes in and tries stop us from taking care of our people. >> joining us is an abortion provider. i really kind of think he was referring to the fugitive slave act but that was in 1850. it's probably not a really good pr move to sort of casually

refer to that. i won't make you analyze that. let's talk about what can be done. you were part of a round table that vice president kamala harris held with reproductive health advocates yesterday. what did you take away from it? >> we were very happy that the biden/harris administration held a meeting with folks like me on. i'm an abortion provider in texas. what we heard from the administration is they are with us. they are supportive of abortion providers and that they have our backs. i heard that message loud and clear from the administration. >> let me let you listen to governor greg abbott and i apologize for forcing you to listen to him. here is what he said about the rape or incest, the lack of any sort of exception for that which has become a real issue and caused real outrage. here is what he said about it. >> what force a rape or incest victim to carry a pregnancy to term? >> it doesn't require that at

all because, obviously, it provides, at least six weeks for a person to be able to get an abortion. >> is that true? >> that is absolutely false. i think that comment shows the -- not just the ignorance because he's choosing not to understand any medical facts. he's not a physician. has no background in medicine and it's completely false and really offensive to the people who are survivors of rape and incest and need to access abortion. it's a great example of just the lack of politicians having any medical background or information on how to make these laws. let alone talk about people that need access. >> i wonder if you can get us the pragmatics. it's not just people who are victims of rape and incest who need to use the services that you provide and have a right to under the constitution and under the law. there are reports of people

traveling all outside of texas. reports in kansas, colorado, new mexico, oklahoma of woman desperately leaving the state trying to get health care. what has been the impact for you, for your clinic? what have you seen? >> as you mentioned, senate bill 8, even though it's a ban on abortion, it's really a complete ban on abortion and when you ban abortion, it doesn't change the need for it. instead of getting the care that nay need within the state, closer to where they live, they are being forced to go out of state. texas folks are becoming an issue for other states. they are going kansas, new york, chicago. it's really unfortunate. we're seeing patients come back for the follow up care. we're having to help them navigate to figure out the travel, child care for the children they already have at home. the cost of traveling out of state and let's not forget we're in pandemic. the risk of covid-19 is there. it's really unfortunate. it's so frustrating and it

really feels unethical to say i have the skills and training to help you but the governor and the government here is forcing me to tell you you have to go out of state. >> yeah. they are quite proud of this law because they believe that private citizen will sue someone like you. are you worried about that and is there plan in place for what happens through your organization if somebody does decide to put a bounty on a woman and names you as a defendant? >> one of the most concerning parts about this law is the vigilante concept where anybody can sue somebody who aids or abets somebody getting an abortion in texas. it is scary. it's the first of its kind. it's unprecedented. it's the most extreme i've seen or anybody has seen when it comes to abortion restrictions in texas. we are navigating that. we are not clear if this is going to be a couple of lawsuits or couple hundred. it's unfortunate but what i'm doing as a physician is the people that need access to care

and making sure we take their concerns and priorities and care at the center of what we're doing. we're concerned but moving forward and taking care of people because banning abortion doesn't stop the need for abortion. >> indeed. i wish we could sue politicians who pretend to be doctors when they ain't. thank you. coming up next, california governor jerry brown joins me to talk about the crucial recall election in his state on tuesday. will california go the way of texas and florida? that's terrifying thought. we'll be right back. that's terrifying thought. we'll be right back. my retirement plan with voya keeps me moving forward. they guide me with achievable steps that give me confidence. this is my granddaughter...she's cute like her grandpa. voya doesn't just help me get to retirement... ...they're with me all the way through it. voya. be confident to and through retirement. i don't feel sick why should i cure my hepatitis c? how can i handle one more thing?

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with the california recall vote just days away, there's encouraging signs. 60% of register voters say they oppose recalling newsom. it was hovering at 50% six weeks ago. the turn around is thanks in part to the effort to redefine the recall campaign as a referendum on trumpism. i guess it helps his opponent is larry elder who has made it clear he will turn the great state of california into another texas or florida.

elder thinks the minimum wage to be zero. it said it's smart for women to tolerate crude behavior in the workplace and the descendants of slave holders deserve reparations. those are stakes on tuesday. that's not to mention that elder has embraced the big lie and questioning the legitimacy of the vote next tuesday claiming it's all rigged. he's said that stephen miller, the antiimmigrant former adviser should be president of the united states. if anything should happenne fei appoint miller to the united states senate. the recall it is nothing more than a republican power grab organized by right wing activists and financed by wealthy conservative donors. among those who funded the recall there's jeffrey palmer. a luxury condo developer who opposes affordable housing.

john kruger wo used a shell company to hide his identity. then you have some venture capitalists and you get the idea. california is such a progressive state in some ways but in some ways it's a very scary state. these recalls, it's one of the most lenient in the country. when you look at the people funding this recall, does it worry you it's been so easy for them to jeopardize the state with this recall? >> yeah, it is worrisome.

we're seeing more recalls because we're seeing more money. over the last few decades and over time, more and more money is available, particularly on the right. it's available for many corners. it's inconceivable 30 or 40 years ago to think of a successful recall. it's all about money. tlost a lot of discontent in politics. very big polarization. it's hard to get 12% of the people to try to recall for almost anything. that's really the dilemma here.

i think more information came out, it's very obvious the recall is going down. people don't want what the recall backers want. they don't want what these recall candidates are offering. it's going back -- i don't know, 1920s. very crazy. it only worked because nobody knew what stakes were or who were these characters want to be governor for the recall could ever go through. >> right. it's the ultimate in minority rule. i doubt have more californians want to be texas or florida and have their numbers. we pulled the number. the national average for covid deaths per 100,000 people is 202. california is below that average because of smart policies to try to stop covid. texas and florida are both well over the average. look at florida peaking out there at 225 per 100,000. the idea that somebody like larry elder could come in and

basically force california to get more covid and more covid deaths, did you think that message has gotten through? >> well, message is getting through who eldser is and what the recall is all about. there's a lot of discontent. discontent about the vaccine and the loss of job, discontent over afghanistan. all sorts of things. local, state and federal. if you just start kind of in vacuum and say are you happy, people will say i'm not happy. let's change. that was the basis of the recall then. change is much worse and not what people want. then they say, no. that's what will happen. it's no. newsom will be retained and i think california will go on its way by the characters getting

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appropriate thing. he felt the people didn't believe it and the law didn't contemplate. i wouldn't worry about this decision. he cares about the safety and people of california and very much about the law of california. >> former governor, jerry brown, former california governor, jerry brown, thank you so much. next, executive producer morgan freeman joins me next to talk about his new movie based on the events surrounding the killing of kenneth chamberlain. there he is. we'll be right back. be right ba.

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ten years ago in white plains, new york city, kenneth chamberlain, a 68-year-old black veteran with a history of mental illness accidentally set off his medical alert device. police were dispatched tahis home for a welfare check, and 90

minutes later, after he had been taunted with racial slurs and subdied with a taser and bean bag rounds, he was shot and killed. no officers were killed with a grand jury declining to indict in 2012 and sknrur jurors rejecting the family's wrongful death suit in 2016. last year, a judge gave his family renewed hope, rejecting a previous ruling that the officers were protected by qualified immunity. this harrowing instance of police brutality is portrayed in the new movie, the killing of kenneth chamberlain. >> mr. chamberlain, this is candice, medical alert. this line is being recorded. we just received an activation from your pendant. do you have an maejs emergency? i'm not getting a response from you. i'm going to dispatch emergency services now. >> police. we're here for a welfare check. open this door. >> you are not coming into my

home. help me! help me! i need help. >> i'm joined now by morgan freeman, academy award winning actor and the executive producer of the killing of kenneth chamberlain. also the president and cofounder of revelations entertainment, i'm also joined on the phone by franky fason, the actor portraying mr. chamberlain, as well as mr. chamberlain's son. i'm going to go to you first, mr. freeman, and i'm trying to be calm because i'm a huge fan of yours but i'm going to conduct this interview with all the dignity i can muster. how did you come to this project? >> my partner and i, lauren mccreary, she's cofounder of revelations, we saw the movie, i don't know, some time back during the pandemic, in 2020, i think. this is '21, isn't it? >> it is.

>> it was just so profound. and such an intuitive force for franky, and the story is so immediate. it's a true story of this man that the movie is based on that truth. and it's just, i don't know, it brings out, again, such an unnecessary situation when we're involving police in a situation that does not call for any police. kenneth's inadvertent triggering of his 911 life alert thing should not have triggered anything that would lead to his death unless he was in some sort of health problem, and he wasn't. this is just why we shouldn't send the police to do a job they're not trained to do. >> yeah, indeed. and mr. chamberlain jr., my

condolences for your loss. my heart rate went up watching that bit of the film. it was a brilliant film, but it was so tragic and heartbreaking. i went into a deep, deep dive on the story reading it. you know how it's going to come out, but it's so painful to watch. he calls his children at one point in the film, you are his son. what do you want people to understand about your dad? >> well, i guess one of the first things that people have to understand is that what happened shouldn't have taken place. and a police officer's job is to diffuse the situation, not create one. and on november 19th, 2011, they did just that, they created one. we have often said to the press and many other people, it wasn't a crime until they made it one. he inadvertently triggered his life alert, that's all he did, and wanted to be left alone. >> franky fason, thank you for joining us. we're having technical gremlins

but you're joining us on the phone. your performance was absolute genius. it was so raw, so visceral. it was heartbreaking. talk about how you approached, you know, playing a real man with a story that we can all read. talk about your approach in playing this man. >> well, first of all, thank you for having me on the show and hello, everyone. first of all, i would just like to say it's the writing of the writer, david. when i got this script, i knew nothing about kenneth chamberlain, nothing about the incident, and i live in new jersey, which shows that it didn't really have very far reaching publicity, it was not publicized. it was kept kind of quiet. i read the script and i was immediately drawn to the character. it's something in this piece that just really connects to me, and i really want to tell that story, having no idea about the impact of this story and this

film. because it's based on a true, true incident that occurred. so my basic approach was the same approach that i use whenever i'm acting in anything. i look to see what's in the script, what the writer has given me, and then i just take it off of the other actors and what's in my heart, i follow through with that. but this, this touched me in such a way that it's a universal story. you know, he's a black man, but i mean, this kind of situation could have happened to anyone. with so many incidents of things happening to blacks by law enforcement officers, i felt even it would be even more compelling to get this out in the open in a very honest way. simplicity is the name of the game as far as i'm concerned with this. i just try to tell the story as honestly and frankly as i could. it was tough to go to those places in a short period of time i had to go through them.

>> you did a fantastic job. it's so good. you're brilliant. and you know, i have to ask you, mr. chamberlain, you said in 2020, you said the judges rely on qualified immunity cut the heart out of the case. it meant evidence shows the police unlawfully entered my father's apartment and used excessive force on him couldn't be used in trial. in 2020, an appellate court said the judge erred when he said they were entitled to qualified immunity. >> to be honest, i used that hashtag justice for kenneth chamberlain, sr., but almost a decade later, we'll never see justice for kenneth chamberlain. we hope for some type of accountability now. and that is what my family and i want to see happen, and i think that one of the more powerful statements in that decision from the second circuit is when they

said instead of treating mr. chamberlain like a critically ill patient, you treated him like a criminal suspect. so with this film and the fact that it's coming out now, i often tell people thing one thing i want this film to do if nothing else is let it be a teaching tool of what not to do. >> yeah, amen. morgan freeman, i hadn't heard of this either. i don't know if you were familiar with the story before. i'm from new york as well, and it does feel like there are just too many stories to tell. you know? what do you hope comes out of this story? >> well, we're going to have to readdress the whole idea of law enforcement, of police work. that legend on the card that says protect and serve is just there. it doesn't mean anything to the people around in those cars, i

don't think. we have to get fully behind the idea of retraining, police being this whole thing being rethought. sending police to a situation as it happened with kenneth chamberlain. it was just ridiculous. just stupid, and then when the police got there, they were even stupider. it's so unnecessary. we could certainly do something about it. and the best way to do anything about it, however, is to put people in office who are willing to do something about it. >> yeah. indeed, mr. fason, what was it like when you finally met the family? a little bit of time left. >> well, when i finally met the family, it was so amazing for me

because they really embraced my performance, and they really thanked me for honoring their relative in such a way. so i felt very satisfied, like i did credible job of portraying him in the film. >> you certainly did. morgan freeman, thank you so much. franky fason, brilliant. kenneth chamberlain jr., i hope you get justice. "all in" with chris hayes starts now. >> tonight on "all in" -- >> the president pushes his plan to curb pandemic deaths. >> we're playing for real here. this isn't a game. >> and the absolutely unhinged backlash is in full throat. >> do not comply with the tyranny. and when the gestapo show up at your front door, you know what to do. >> the convergence of policy, politics and far right rage and why there's no reason on earth the biden vaccine mandate is big

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