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reporters in the room about joint chiefs of staff about general milley. >> i have great confidence in general milley. >> thank you, thank you, clear the room, clear the room. >> thank you. >> momentarily in the meantime, let's bring in nbc's monica alba in the control room, and are we playing back the video, and monica, it is good to see you, friend. help us to understand why there is so much attention today on the president's perspective and his views on the joint chiefs of staff? >> well, that is a very, very brief spray, geoff, and those are the only words that the president uttered on the situation, and he did not say anything else, and he wanted to say "i have great confidence in
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general milley" were his only words, and jen psaki offered more comments, and she was pressed on whether the president has confidence, and then she called the man who the president respects very much, and working closely with, and when asked whether the white house would like to see more information perhaps further the investigation into what happened here given his involvement, the calls made after the january 6th insurrection, the white house said that we will leave that to congress if they want to pursue it, and this is interesting, because general milley is set to testify later in the month, and he is likely to get a ton of questions on this, and then it is going to present an interesting scenario about this, and what if something similar were to happen today under president biden and would they consider this a general going out of chain of command if something were to repeat, and
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essentially they reject that and they don't believe it would happen right now, and you have to look at the extraordinary circumstances of what was occurring around then, and again this white house is quick to point out that they feel in many ways, and they will not defend general milley's actions, but they can understand them by looking at the broader picture of everything that was going on, and they say that ultimately, it was essential to protect the united states from what could potentially happen with the erratic behavior that is reported on in the new book from bob woodward and bob costa, and the white house wanting to again say that general milley at this point has the confidence of the president but more probably still needs to be learned about this particular incident, and the massive ripple effects that came from it. >> monica alba, thank you, as always for that great reporting from the white house. we will talk more about this from the program coming up, but more of the break news here in washington, and this is powerful day of testimony from the u.s. capitol and poise and bravery
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and raw emotion, and at times flashes of anger and justified anger of the gymnasts who suffered years of abuse from team doctor larry nasser. they testified hundreds of abusers testifying before congress, and the failure of the u.s. gymnastic officials who didn't stop the abuse as soon as the first abusers came forward. >> to be clear, i blame larry nasser, and i also blame an entire system that enabled and perpetrated his abuse. >> after telling my entire story of abuse to the fbi in the summer of 2015 not only did the fbi not report my abuse, but when they eventually documented my report, 17 months later, they made entirely false claims about what i said.
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they asked if this treatment ever helped me. i said, no, it never did. this treatment was 100% abuse and never gave me any relief. i then told the fbi about tokyo, the day he gave me a sleeping pill for the plane ride to work on me later that night, and that evening, i was naked, completely alone with him on top of me molesting me for hours. i told them that i thought that i was going to die that night, because there was no way that he would let me go. i began crying at the memory over the phone, and there was dead silence. i was so shocked at the agent's silence and the trauma, and after that minute of silence he said, is that all. >> they quietly allowed nasser to slip out of the side door to quietly continue the work at msu, spiro hospital, and usga and even run for a school board.
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nasser found hundreds new victims to molest. it was like serving innocent children up to a pedophile on a silver platter. >> by some estimates there, nasser molested more than 100 more girls in the years after mckayla maroney testified to the fbi. she sat on the floor to reveal her horrors to agents on phone that she had not shared with her parents, and that respond on the other end of to line, "is that all?" let's bring in anne thompson and former sex crimes prosecutor wendy murphy and at university of law in new england, and also msnbc correspondent.
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tell us about the trauma that is still haunting these women. >> what dick durbin called this a historic day in the senate is the fact when these four young women testified today, it was absolutely riveting. people did not move. people in the hallways did not move. people stood there and just listened to these four women who we are so used to seeing doing incredible things in a gymnasium, and to see them be so difficult to talk about, and to see simone biles breakdown and so difficult to talk about being abused by larry nasser, and mckayla maroney's anger at the fbi for first of all not believing her and then lying about what she said after a report was written a year later, and then aly raisman who has
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been the captain of the team, and she was called grandma in rio, and she talked about what a having to speak about this again and again does to them. she says they all sfrufr ptsd, and let's take a listen. >> for me, just to paint a picture. i used to train some days seven hours a day for the olympics and processing my abuse affected me so much, and it is still something that i struggle with that i can remember when i first shared my story publicly, for a very, very long time, i did not have the energy to stand up in the shower, and i would have to sit down to wash my hair, because standing up was too exhausting for me. i could not go for a ten-minute walk outside. this is someone who has competed in two olympic games. i have often wondered, am i ever going to feel better? it has affect mid health.
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in the last couple of years, i have had to be taken in an ambulance because i pass out and i'm so sick from the trauma. >> reporter: and the other thing that you could not see that we could see, geoff, is the fact that the women supported each other. when simone biles started to breakdown, the concern on aly raisman's face, and she was sitting at the other end of the table, and she wanted to reach out to her, and after they finished testifying, they all hugged each other, and it is a clear emotional moment, but it is not the emotion, they want action, and they want those fbi agents held accountable, and prosecuted and they want an independent investigation to find out how this went on, and why this went on for so long. >> yeah. >> i will tell our viewers that there is a press conference happening now with the senators and the gymnasts, themselves, and when the gymnasts start to speak, we will dip into that, and picking up on the point,
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that larry nasser is going to die in prison, but they point the finger for the specific fbi agencies and former head of usga, united states gymnastics, jim penny, and anybody else could be held accountable? >> any time in institutional abuse, there is someone somewhere who turned an eye, from the catholic church to the boy scouts, it is the institution, and the institution that has the power to impose on these kinds of cases that creates that secrecy, and that perpetuates this abuse, and you want the most swiftest power to
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empower. >> and the accountability, and where is the accountability for larry to continually assault little girls on your watch? where is the accountability for those at the fbi who chose to place personal gain ahead of their duties to protect and serve. had any one of the fbi had done their job, i would not be here speaking to you today. accountability will only occur when the fbi agents who did not do their job face criminal charges. my 2016 abuse is on them. it is five years later, five years of asking the same questions. it is time for these questions to be answered. thank you. [ applause ] >> we are going toep it -- going
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to open it up to questions. >> what specifically do you hope to see see -- >> go ahead, yeah. >> okay. so, i think that in regards to the question about safe sport, i think that it is really important for it to be a completely separate entity and safe sport should not be funded by an organization that there are reports against. and there needs to be more clear -- what's the right word -- what i was trying to say
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earlier is that with safe sport and some of my personal experience and also with my mom's personal experience and with -- sorry, it has been a very long day, and with other people that i have spoken to is that they have been bounced around to other people, and so there needs to be more clear lines of communication -- >> and who is accountable, correct? >> yes. >> mom, do you want to add anything to safety sport things because my mom is fried. >> and to see it separate to protect any one organization. so safety sport was created by
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united states safe sports and to say -- >> i also think that umm, whatever can be done to have all three, umm, usg, and the fbi, and the opi to be investigated. the fbi says that it was investigated, but the scope of the investigation is not acceptable, and it needs to be completely independent and back decades and nobody and nothing is off limits and until we know the answers to that, we don't know who to hold accountable, and there may still be people there who are still in positions of power. >> and prosecution.
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>> and can you comment on the -- >> i have not watched the full testimony, because this is a lot on us. i do definitely plan to watch it, but in order for me to be here right now, i needed to take a little bit of the mental break, but no, i don't take any of their word. we have been getting empty promises from usag, and usopc for years. i don't take people's words for thing, and it has to be action.
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you know, hopefully today is going to be a day that effectuates real change and we will get answers and people are going to be held accountable, but we all deserve something more than words. >> may i introduce jessica howard to say a few words. >> yes. >> hi. this is probably the first time i have stood in washington, d.c., listening to all of these words and all of these promises, and these you are so courageous and you are so brave comments, so i can believe something will be done. when i was in the beginning at the end of my career, my coach pulled me aside just before i was kicked out of the gym forever and she said that my failure in life was going to be that i trusted people too much,
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and i spoke too freely, and that has haunted me some sort of ghost, because i have been torn between wanting to trust people when they say thing, and wanting to believe when they are going to do the right thing, and then actually seeing people do the right thing. and there are only a handful, and that handful happens to be the most powerful organization in the united states, and as one of the most powerful organizations is the senate, and i don't know how we got to be here today, but i can just say thank you from the bottom of my heart, because it has personally contributed to saving my life, and i know that everybody here, and all of the victims, we are tired of sharing our heartbreaking stories so that people can have the heartstrings tugged at the the people who
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actually can take and enforce the laws on to people who are accountable, this will get fixed, it will go away, and future generations will not face the abuse that we have faced, and they will not face a lifetime of side effects that may or may not be the end of them. so, again, i want to thank the senate, and thank you for everything that you have said. i believe you. i believe you when you spoke the last time i was here, and today, i believe you more, and with this group, i really feel that we can do something. so thank you. thank you. >> our pleasure. >> i would just emphasize that we were last in this room, and many of you were here, and we made a promise to continue this fight. we are going to continue this fight. we have achieved legislation, and we have reports, but we will continue this effort, because we need to keep faith with you and
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with all of the athletes who may be survivors and victims of thf kind of abuse, and you are the faces and voices that will achieve real change in this country. the enablers, the culture and the system is more than just one monster predator like larry nasser. there is a much broader responsibility and broader need for accountability, and that is what we will see. action and accountability. other questions? yes. >> i would like to ask if you can comment on the us --
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>> do you want me to answer? >> sure. go ahead. >> i know i sound like a broken record, but i think that your question is really important, and i often ask myself the same thing, and i think that instead of us guessing if someone should be in the position of leadership or a position of power at usag or usoc, this is why i am saying that we need to have a complete independent investigation, because i don't have all of the answers. you know, when you are looking at the press statements for decades, they have been saying the same thing over and over again with no real meaningful change, but it is, i can't understand how when you are a ceo and you have nothing to do with the disaster, and you come in as the new ceo of an organization and you know that you are coming into a massive problem of sexual abuse, and the first thing that you do is not
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to investigate, and do things to not investigate, and not do anything when people shame survivors and not hear survivors and try to create more education and do things that will really truly make change. it is completely unacceptable, and i can't understand if i were the ceo of an organization, the first thing i would do is to have a completely independent investigation and i'm not sure why that has not been done yet, or maybe we can speculate that we can find out that it is so bad that they don't want us to find out. >> and i would add that safe sports now has an independent source of funding, and the jury is out if it is sufficient in terms of the reforms already
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made, and we are going to be monitoring it, and we have a responsibility to be watching it closely, and all of the reforms can be strengthened, and we may well need to strengthen. >> senator, i am grateful for you questioning the fbi today, and so great that you spoke out. can you tell us how has the fbi's handling of this case been? >> i am going to be demanding more of the fbi and the department of justice. the department of justice today was a no-show. the department of justice failed to appear. they have responsibility ultimately for the fbi, for the prosecutions and for action here. director wray may have run out of adjectives, but the department of justice has not run out of action, and they
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should be answering many of the questions. so i am by no means satisfied with what i heard today. >> as somebody who has been in and out of the rooms since the beginning of this coming forward, i would just like to let you know that if the fbi had done anything that was even within their own policies or procedures or followed the laws that are already in place to protect some of the policies to protect children from abuse, some of these people would not be here in recovery, and so it is to me that people cannot be hearing that trafficking and larry nasser to be accessories
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to what he did, and then we are to answer what the fbi did to screw up. they are amazing people, but if they do not work with the conscious and the moral standards and the very basics of their job, then that cannot happen. but there are 120 people who would not have been victims had one fbi agent made a proper report or phone call. >> during the hearing, and i don't know whether you saw it, but i asked every one of these women if they knew personally victims who became survivors during that nearly 18-month period -- july 2015 to the end of 2016 -- there are 120 young women who laid before larry
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nasser on his examining table, and he did with them whatever he wanted, because the fbi did nothing. let's be very clear, the fbi's inaction led to victimization of most horrific and hideous kind. >> do you know if they can be charged as conspiracy? >> i have asked director wray about conspiracy, and i will follow up with him and inspector horowitz, so i don't know who will be fired, but i hope that we haven't heard of the last of action. >>
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>> is there a form of action -- [ inaudible ] >> could you hear that? >> something about a subpoena. >> that is better. >> will you be following up with subpoenas for appearance here -- >> well, i definitely want to hear more from the department of justice and i want to hear something from the department of justice. today, we heard nothing from the department of justice after a letter that i wrote along with senator feinstein specifically urging the top leadership of the
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department of justice to come before us. i want cooperation. i'd like to hear their testimony. >> can i say one thing about them not showing up. also, the message by them not showing up to me sends that child abuse does not matter. i think that is something that people in positions of power and in these powerful organizations need to think about is that the message that they are sending that abuse doesn't matter. and i think it is completely shocking and disturbing that they didn't think it was important or they didn't think that what happened to us, you know, i have to speculate wasn't bad enough for them to come. it is really unacceptable, and hopefully we will get to hear their testimonies, and if there
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is another hearing, they will show up. >> you know, i will just say generally, what we saw from the indianapolis office of the fbi and then the los angeles office and then the entire system was a failure to take seriously these allegations. they didn't take them seriously, and that's what really should be so outrageous, and the perception may well be that the department of justice doesn't take this issue seriously. sometimes perception becomes
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reality. >> what would you like to see after your testimony. >> i can think of one thing, indictments. where there are witnesses, and if there is no indictments and nobody is being arrest and the people who are accessories again to trafficking us and handing us over to a silver platter to larry nasser are not held to account, i don't know what today was for. but today was for something, and i believe that those things will begin to happen. >> thank you, everyone. i appreciate your being here. story for the delay, and thank you especially to you all, again. and maybe we will be back in this room. thank you, all. >> thank you.
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we have been listening to a press conference with those gymnasts who testified before the senate today about the abuse they experienced at the hands of disgraced us gymnast doctor larry nasser and the fbi's handling of it. and our nbc producer in the air, wendy asked former gymnast jessica howard, what would feel like a little justice in this case, and jessica said indictments. that is what we were talking about before we went to the press conference whether or not the agents or the former ceo of usa gymnastics face any legal risks here. >> geoff, what an important question, and i agree with jessica's answer that it is not common when someone who did not do the direct abuse of the victim, but did have the responsibility of the
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protection, and failed in that regard, and failed in the institution, the university or the fbi, and they are charged to protect children from harm, and when they are looking the other way, and derelict from the duty, and especially the fbi agent who lied commit the felony offense of committing a federally false statement, these are indictable, criminal actions, and sometimes you have to charge conspiracy, and you have to be clever. with the materially false statements charged, that is easy one. people get charged with all of the time, and this fbi agent abbott who is the lead bad guy in this who did the least, and had the most to protect the victims, he absolutely should be charged with the felony crime, and making a materially false statement, because even if that is the only charge that is
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filed, it means that someone in an institutional setting could have been someone who prevented what nasser did, and we don't have anybody accountable in that way, and it has to happen. >> and i want to bring you in, devli barrett, because the fbi has fired the agent who lied. and he said in that press conference that he was not satisfied with what he heard from the fbi director christopher wray. the firing of one fbi agent does not in itself represent a systemic change within the fbi. what more is wray committed to do? committed to doing rather? >> so, wray is basically making two points. one, that what happened in nasser case was so egregious not just for what needed to change in the bureau, but for what the bureau should be doing normally,
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and wray believes that what happened in the nasser case should not happen at all based on the procedures and rules, and aly raisman said the same thing in her testimony. he has set out a bunch of guidelines to make this system and investigations involving child sex crimes so that this kind of thing does not happen again, and a lot of what he talked about is that you need more than one person responsible for this, and obviously in this case, the person who is fired this month is taking a lot of the blame for this, but part of wray's point is that you need more than one person looking at these things so that it is not up to one or two people thor important to go nowhere. >> and what about that if the fbi did not have federal jurs dick snun the case, and that argument is what it is, and why didn't the indianapolis, and the
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l.a. fbi offices turn it over to state and federal prosecutors? >> that is to me, one of the most important questions asked and not answered today. in fact, i thought that it was interesting that the inspector general in his testimony to congress was asked can you tell us what the conversation was like between you and the agents and any other fbi people who were responsible in terms of you understanding for purposes of producing your report why they did not contact local, state prosecution officials once they had questions about whether there was federal jurisdiction, and the question was from the inspector general was that i don't have information on that, and it struck me as strange, and what do you mean, you don't have information on that? that is by far the most important question in terms of falling through the cracks. as you said, geoff, assume that one of the reasons they did not do very much is once they got
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the information they said that this is not a federal case, and maybe that is true that in the one case that one referral they got, they said we don't see federal jurisdiction, and they are require and they are supposed to contact local, state and federal officials because they do have official, and you heard from mckayla maroney talking about a drugging rape from this monster of hundreds of girls and women, and you hear that and you don't call local officials who could go after him for that exact offense, what is wrong with you? why do we need a policy on that? i would call the police, and i'm not a law enforcement official. that struck me. until the department of justice is brought before congress to answer a lot of questions including the questions around this failure, we are going to
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need, you know, we are going to need to focus our rage, if you will, on that systemic failure, because it is inexcusable. >> and why didn't the indianapolis office do more, as you write about this, while the fbi was dealing with the nasser allegations the head of the bureau's indianapolis office talked to steven abbott about getting a job with the olympic committee. how is that possible that the guy who is supposed to be investigating the case is talking to u.s. gymnastics about getting a cushy job? >> that is something that should not have happened, happened inside of the fbi at all. and the officials when they
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reach the end of their career, they are looking for a job, but never the bureau understands that you do not talk to people about jobs who are important actors in the investigations that you currently have, and that is basic ethics of investigation, and again another area that to director wray's point, there are some mind boggling behavior that went on in this case by the fbi, and as wendy pointed out, it is not the only one, but it is jaw-dropping. >> anne, if you could tie a bow on all of this for us, because we have heard this testimony that was riveting and it was devastating and just listening to jessica howard, the gymnast in the press conference talk about shortly before she was kicked out of the gym, and the coach took her over in the corner and said this your big failure in life is that you trusted too much, and talked too freely. in some cases these women were pasively ignored and
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aggressively dismissed in that instance just recalled. and your final thoughts here. >> no, and maggie nichols told the same story, and she felt that she was kicked out of usga gymnastics after she raised the larry nasser's abuse. so what is going to happen. these women just cannot tell their stories and then it goes away. why haven't there been criminal charges? why is there still not an independent investigation of the olympic committee and u.s. gymnastics, and this is not a one-off thing. larry nasser abused nearly 300 young women, and those are the ones that we know about, and how much more have not told their story, and why did everyone look the other way, and why haven't the people who did look the other way, why haven't they still been held accountable?
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more breaking news from washington where president biden expressed full confidence in general mark milley the chairman of the joint chiefs. we are expecting a briefing coming up in the next hour over at the pentagon which we will bring to you live which is unfolding as we get the first reaction of general milley to the allegations detailed in the new book "peril" and this is not a denial. milley was so worried that trump would go rogue after the january 6th insurrection, that milley was worried that trump could spark a war with china and he
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made a call to his counterpart that he could spark anwar with china. he claimed that was consistent with his oath of responsibility. joining us are courtney kube and ellen farcas. and what have you learned, courtney? >> you mentioned the phone call to the chinese counterpart to say that the joint staff here is not denying that the call took place, but they are saying that the overall way that it was characterized is correct, but some of the direct quotes are not exactly the way that they
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came out that has gotten a little bit of the attention. that is the meeting that general milley called with the members of the military that worked on the nmcc which is the national military command center. there is a lot of attention as you recall, geoff, there was a lot of concern that president trump may try to do something. and he may try to strike out in an adversary or maybe even send out an air strike, and he was getting more and more, his behavior was getting more and more erratic before the inauguration of joe biden. general milley called the members of the nmcc in his office and went through the procedure, and the way that the woodward book and some of the reporting has come out made it sound as if general milley was trying to circumvent the procedures by calling people in,
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but the way it is explained is that he talked to the members of the military about the process, because he wanted to make sure that he was clear on it, and they were, because they were the people making the calls, and getting on a conference line with senior people in this administration or in the previous administration if there was some sort of a strike coming, and general milley wanted to look each one of them in the eye and make sure they knew what to do in that case. so the two vignettes that have come out, yes, they are not denying them, but there is a little bit of the wiggle room of how they were carried out, geoff. >> and courtney, the context here accounts for a lot, and we should not lose sight of what general milley was trying to guard against according to the reporting that he believed that president trump was in mental decline as did members of the cabinet, and he said that you never know what a president's trigger point will be, and evelyn, setting aside the statement, in your view, did
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general milley here do anything wrong? >> no, geoff. i think that we should be lauding him as a hero. he really was concerned about the state of the constitution, the threat frankly speaking that the then outgoing president posed to the united states, and potentially to the world. he saw that president trump was not accepting the results of the election, and obviously we know that he was privy to a lot of the president's mood swings, and as he mentioned that he was erratic, and we don't know what other conversations he was privy to foreign conversation and why the chinese were concerned, but he did the right thing that everybody kept him informed as would be proper under the constitution, and under the rules with regard to use of nuclear force, and so i would say, geoff, he was a hero, and looked out for the american
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people. >> would you expect biden to say anything other than what he said today, he has confidence in milley and not weighing in to the substance of what is reported? >> no, because the only thing that he did that would be objectionable from the perspective of the president would be the fact that he questioned the sitting president, and he questioned the judgment of the sitting president, and he was on solid ground doing so, and he did not do anything illegal or unconstitutional in his actions or words, so president biden knows that here is a man who believes first and foremost in the oath to the constitution to uphold the republic, and he is not going to take an oath to a person. i think that again, that is critical when it comes to the strength of our state and our democracy. >> evelyn farcas and courtney kube, thank you. and what do a billionaire, a professor and a data engineer
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for immune support. boost® high protein. >> tonight's spacex hopes to make history again by launching the first civilian crew into mars. it will send billionaire jared issacson and his hand-picked passengers into orbit. the launch opens at 8:00 p.m. eastern tonight. after they make it into orbit, they will circle for three days and plummet back into the atmosphere and splash off into the coast of florida. this going to mark the latest milestone into what is an incredible year for space tourism. joining us from cape canaveral is our correspondent cal perry. so, now this is a civilian crew, and assistant crew of a
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geologist and billionaire, and physician's assistant, and what do you know? >> when they called haley arsenault who was called to see if she wanted to go to space, and she asked if we were going to the moon. and this is a new era to be space travel where you don't have astronauts on the space. this is autonomous, and it could run itself from launch to touchdown in three days when they touchdown hopefully in atlantic ocean. so maybe they don't have to do anything at all, and they went through six months of intensive training, because the hope is to take them to space, and go around for three days and then come back without needing a pilot. there are folks who can watch, and we spoke to the hopkinsons
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who drove in from florida. >> she went to see a rocket launch and my son and i are space nut, and we love to see what elon musk is doing to bring the whole space experience to the public. >> reporter: do you think it is going to happen? is this going to open the door one day? >> absolutely. absolutely. the inspiration for a launch is the tip of the iceberg, and this is what we are looking for. and something like this is going to bring humanity together.
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and so scion, and if they needed to, it would be where they understood the controls to be and how you use the touch screen to do certain thing, and if needed in an emergency. i am guessing. >> so they have a couple of the contingencies in place, and so this crew as i understand it, they are scheduled to perform a couple of series of space flights, and what could we glean from their experiments. >> well, my guess is that they are doing, and i hate to say my guess, but my guess is i am not involved with the training or the preparation at all, but because they are flying for st. jude's, and haley arsenault is a physician's assistant, and dr. proctor is a geologist, and they will do some experiments, and i
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am thinking a lot of photography of earth, and they are going to be in an altitude that is pretty high, and above the international space station, and in a totally different orbit, and launching due east out of kennedy space center, which means they are not close to the or bit of the international space station which is what we want to demonstrate that you can have capsules doing different things at different altitudes and orbits and doing some medical experiments and earth observations along with that. >> yeah, and let me ask you this, because i can see the nasa logo behind you, and you are a trailblazer in that. >> am i in trouble. >> not at all, sir, and what does that mean to be back in florida to watch another leap to use the phrase, and a leap in space tourism. >> i am excited, because i am here with my wife, and so we didn't have an opportunity to do that at all when i was in the
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program as an astronaut, because she was always watching me from the roof of the launch control center, and i was in the vehicle. so we are excited. scion is a personal friend, and jared is a friend of my son's, because one of miz companies flew his aggressors to my son when he was a marine and weapons operator, and so i am very excited. what is most happy is the couple talking to cal perry is that the hope is that this is truly the beginning of what we were trying to bring about with commercial space where we are still not where normal average ordinary human beings will be able to pay the price to go to space, but many more people than currently are able to go through the formal astronaut programs and do work that is something that they already know how to do rather than have to be trained for years at a time that the way that the professional astronauts
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are today. i am excited about what we are to see tonight. >> major general james bolden, you enjoy the show tonight. >> thank you. right on. >> one more thing, a thing that is a bizarre reboot of "jurassic park." they are embarking on a woolly mammoth coming back thousands of years after it vanished from colossal which is a harvard's genetics expert to respecies for climate change. the mammoth used to scrape away layers of snow to maintain the permafrost. and colossal's researchers said that it allowed the permafrost to warm, and they believe that bringing it back could reverse that trend and reverse climate change, but the goal is not to bring back the mammoth as it
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was, no. they want to splice recovered bits of mammoth dna with the asian elephant, an endangered species and the closest living relevant, and they believe it would look and behave a lot like woolly mammoth, but there is no way to know that for sure. and the "verge" reports that it could create an ecozombie and an animal who does not fully participate in the ecosystem the way it did, and have multiple "jurassic park" movies not taught us anything that where there is a will, there is a way. and we will pick up the coverage with more. l pick up the coverae with more. h you've saved, how much you'll need, and build a straightforward plan to generate income, even when you're not working. a plan that gives you the chance to grow your savings and create cash flow that lasts. along the way, we'll give you ways to be tax efficient.
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