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6th insurrection. we're live outside the perimeter this morning and we have some brand-new reporting that suggests the question may not be how many people show up but how few. meanwhile, just across the mall, we're watching the white house closely on this thursday. president biden set to speak this afternoon and the topic will be leveling our economic playing field. also ahead this morning, i'll have a very special conversation with acclaimed filmmaker ken burns. ken has a brand-new documentary out. it's all about muhammad ali. we're going to talk about the legacy of the greatest and some new revelations about a man who really transcended his time and place in history. we'll have all of that coming up this hour. but we're going to start with the intensifying debate over the covid booster shots. tomorrow, a group of fda advisers outside advisers will be meeting to talk about whether to recommend booster shots. and it comes as both pfizer and

moderna release new findings. in support of boosters. we have our team of reporters and doctors standing by, but we're going to start with nb's gabe gutierrez outside pfizer's headquarters in new york city, antonio hilton is in austin, texas, where latino community leaders are taking the fight into their own hands now, and i want to bring in harvard medical school physician, dr. adidi. we'll come to you in a moment, but gabe, pfizer and moderna releasing new data that supports the need for booster shots. tomorrow, this panel of outside advisers will meet to talk about whether to recommend booster shots. what do we know about where things stand now. >> hey, there. as you mentioned, tomorrow, the representatives from pfizer will brief that panel of outside experts. but this is highly contentious among the medical community, craig. pfizer putting out a 52-page

report saying people that were vaccinated in january, for example, were at a much increased risk of breakthrough infection than those people that were vaccinated in april. and he cited research from israel. now, that suggests that there is waning protection of this virus, and moderna's president told nbc news yesterday he saw the same thing essentially and that he worried that there could be more serious infections that could crop up in the months ahead. but critics say that, one, the research out of israel is not big enough, that there wasn't enough of a sample size. and that the reason we're seeing this increased number of cases, craig, is not necessarily because of the waning protection of the vaccine but because the delta variant has just ravaged certain parts of the country, and indeed, we are seeing rising cases. tennessee seeing its highest number of covid cases per capita in the country right now. but there is this raging debate among the medical community,

including within the fda itself. the staff officially has not taken a position on whether vaccine booster shots are necessary. but at least two fda scientists have announced their resignations in the last several days, and yes, there is skepticism among some in the medical community about the need for these shots and whether we should be focusing more instead on getting more people that first shot. craig. >> gabe gutierrez, stand by there at pfizer headquarters in new york city. doctor, we continue to get some mixed messages on boosters right now. as gabe mentioned,io ahave pfizer appointing to this data from israel that shows those who got the extra shot far less likely to become infected soon afterward. what do you make of the debate over recommending booster shots right now, doctor? >> you know, craig, this is a contentious and tense environment. and i think it's artificially a sense of urgency. we know that the vaccines across

the board really do protect well for severe illness, hospitalization, and death. but for people over the age of 60, the new data from the new england journal of medicine from israel suggests a third shot may be indicative. i think that's what the fda is going to say for this friday. it's not necessarily boosters for all, but boosters for some. age greater than 60, immuno compromised and likely frontline health care workers. >> doctor, you know, we still have a number of folks who are, and i loathe to use vaccine hesitant, but you know, they're reluctant to get the initial shot. are you at all concerned that people, if it's recommended that they get these booster shots, that that's going to deter even more folks from getting the initial shot? >> not necessarily, craig. we know that the vaccine mandates that are going to be put in place in the coming weeks are going to do a tremendous impact on getting those who haven't been vaccinated to get

vaccinated. the vaccine hesitant, the true vaccine hesitant are a very small group. only 13% of the population has said no, never vax. there are a larger proportion of people who are in the movable middle. so this discussion on boosters, whether we need a two-shot regimen or a three-shot regimen for the mrna vaccine versus the one or two shot regimen for the johnson & johnson vaccine is more for the vaccinated people thinking about how to minimize breakthrough infections, prevent hospitalization, severe illness and death. we know any vaccine is better than no vaccine. >> antonia, you are in travis county, texas, where black and brown residents are lagging behind in getting vaccinated. what is that community doing to try to help get more shots in arms? >> well, craig, here in the austin area, this has really become a story that's all about meeting people where they are and being an authentic voice. what i mean by that is the

effort to get people vaccinated on the east side of austin, which is where black and latino people live, and where they're seeing serious lag in vaccination uptake rates is requiring right now that latino organizers like the austin latino coalition do that work themselves. these are folks who aren't doctors, who are not public health officials, but they're business owners. they work in the food service industry, and they see and live among latino communities every single day. and what they're hearing every day is that there is a mix of misinformation from religious and political sources, fear about what it would mean if they got side effects from the vaccine and hao to misa couple days of work and miss their wages. i heard that come up several times yesterday while i met folks on the ground. and then there's just continued hesitancy about, you know, what it means to put medicine in their body, what their autonomy might be, and what we saw happen is latino organizers and community members actually are from these neighborhoods. they have really compassionate,

patient conversations with people. and i met a couple yesterday that had gotten their first ever vaccine shots. and they had conversations here, and they took their time making their decision. they soak to people who were really patient with them, and they finally did it. take a listen to rolando hernandez and his wife, rosa flores, two people who got their first shots just yesterday. >> why do you think so many latinos are still a little nervous about getting their shots? [ speaking foreign language ] >> and that's just two of the folks that i met yesterday. i met other folks who weren't willing to come on camera and they were nuvs to talk to nbc,

but they said they were getting their first ever shots because they have family who live on the east side of austin hospitalized, fighting for their lives and they came to people they know at this community center and decided to finally get the vaccine. craig. >> an tone you there on the ground in austin with what one community is doing. doctor, as you know, the world health organization warning on wednesday while covid cases seem to be steadily slowing in much of the world, they're up 20% in the last week in the western hemisphere. north america, the chief driver of the new infections, new cases up by a third. how concerned are you by the rise in cases here, especially as it would seem as if the rest of the world is starting to get this thing under control in a major way? >> i'm very concerned, craig. you know, we just last week, the u.s. dropped to the last number of people in terms of when we think about countries and the weltiest countries having the

greatest vaccine supply. we are the lowest in terms of vaccination rate. i am very concerned about this trend. it is not moving in the right direction, especially as the winter months come. we must do a better job to vaccinate as many people as possible here, and that has always been the message, particularly now in light of all of these metrics. >> gabe gutierrez, antonio hilton, doctor, a big thanks to all of you on this thursday. one quick note, tomorrow we're going to be answering all of your questions about covid and kids back in the classroom. you can send us those questions to talk@msnbc.com. there's the information on your screen, but again, talk@msnbc.com. the email address. you can also tweet us those questions as well. use the hashtag, #msnbcanswers and we'll get to as many questions as possible at 11:00 a.m. eastern. we have a lot more on this thursday including concerns

about this weekend. new fencing up around the capitol as police are preparing for the justice for j-6 rally. that rally being held in support of people who were arrested after the january 6th insurrection. also, leveling the playing field. that's part of president biden's message when he speaks on the economy this afternoon. we'll get a preview of the president's speech next. and you know those iconic words, float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. well, coming up in just a few moments, ken burns on his new documentary series on the life and legacy of the greatest, muhammad ali. it's so much more than a doc about boxing. ken's going to join us to talk about it next.

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just a few hours from now, president biden set to give a major speech on his economic plan, specifically help for middle class families.

the president is expected to make the case for raising taxes on corporations and the wealthy to help pay for everything from child care to high speed internet. nbc's monica alba is at her perch there at the white house following this one for us. monica, what else do we know about the president's speech today? >> the president's speech is really going to be aimed at highlighting what he feels are the most important parts of the $3.5 billion budget reconciliation bill currently being debated on capitol hill. he's going to highlight to a larger, more broad audience of the american people why he feels these proposals for paid family leave, education, health care, battling the climate crisis are essential but perhaps this speech will also be aimed at an audience of a handful of lawmakers who still have issues with the size and scope of this bill. we know yesterday, for instance, that senator sinema and manchin both had one-on-one meetings with president biden behind closed doors.

as they have voiced their concern really about what so far many in the white house and in the biden administration have argued is essential and they don't want to come down on this price. but we know that given some opposition in the democratic party right now, there's not going to be any way to get this moved forward until they're able to come to some agreement. so in this speech, the president is going to talk about this inflection point, and he's going to be making a case, we have heard him now make for weeks, in particular when it comes to climate change. and you saw him maybe give part one or two of this speech earlier in the week when he went out to the west coast of california and idaho to survey wildfire damage and specifically talk about why so much of what's in this bill can directly go toward helping that. so he's also going to highlight that today in addition to all these other items. this is a speech that the president is giving at a critical time, the white house feels, because congressional leaders have tried to set this deadline for the end of september, just a couple weeks away, to try to get the budget

reconciliation process done, which of course, would not require republican votes. but also hanging in the balance on these parallel tracks, craig, the $1.2 trillion infrastructure bill that was passed in a bipartisan fashion in the senate. these two things, they want to get done as quick as possible, but there's so much else going on, so the president wants to highlights why it should happen in his view now. >> all right, monica alba at the white house ahead of the president's speech roughly 2 1/2 hours from now. we'll check back in with you in a bit. >> a big part of the biden administration's economic agenda includes a strong focus on racial equity. the administration's push to address racial disparities comes amid the backdrop of a major reckoning that continues in this country on the legacy of race. and it's come to the forefront of our politics and cast a new spotlight on activism. and some of the most prominent activists now. we're getting a new look at one

of the country's most famous advocates for racial justice, muhammad ali. this sunday on pbs, the world will get a fresh glimpse of the greatest and his role in history. it's a brand-new four-part documentary by acclaimed filmmaker ken burns. here's a look. >> daddy evolved. he became better. and daddy said i'm bigger than boxing. that meant boxing was this much. his evolution into the person he is today is way bigger than him just boxing. and i think he knew that. and he carried it with him. his love and he gave it to every single person he met.

>> i'm joined now by ken burns. and ken, we should note you worked on this film with your oldest daughter, your son-in-law. it's clear that watching this, it's much more than a sports documentary. i have only gotten through the first round, but what were some of the biggest surprises that you found while you were working on this, ken? >> craig, i don't know how to begin to describe it. every day was a new revelation, intimate details, larger picture. muhammad ali intersects with all the great issues in the last half of the 20th century. he's about the role of sports in society, the role of the black athlete. the definitions of black masculinity and black manhood. civil rights, not as a monolithic one thing, as many things. also about dealing with race directly and also war and faith and politics and sex.

all of those things we're grapping with today. the story of am haumd ali is one of freedom, it's one of courage, it's one of love, as rashida says so beautifully in the film, as he grows into his personhood. we talked recently with a lot of athletes who are engaged in activism today, like malcolm jenkins and others. and they all feel like they're standing on the shoulders of muhammad ali. no one risked as much, no one sacrificed as much, and no one was determined to not just achieve freedom for himself, which is tough for a black man in this country, but to not forget where he had come from, to bring his people along with him. and his legacy and example is with us today. it's palpable. so this is a film about boxing. it's a film about his personal life. it's a film about his religious journey, his evolution of faith. and i think that's why we're trying to tie together all of these threads. >> there is, as you know, a

tendency to romanticize history, and one of things i have always enjoyed about your work is you don't do that. you give it to us warts and all, and this is no exception. you give it to us warts and all. you know, you said something this morning on "today" that i want to revisit. you said that it wasn't muhammad ali that was divisive. oftentimes when people think back to his anti-war position specifically, they talk about how divisive of a figure he was. you continued it wasn't him, it was us. explain. >> he's provocative. he's a big, loud person strutting across the stage in such a wonderful and funny and for many people difficult way. but i think that, you know, the things that bothered people, sort of a baseball metaphor. first of all, he brags. strike one. second of all, when he wins a heavyweight championship again sonny liston, he announced he's joined a separatist religious

cult, the nation of islam, and changing his name to muhammad ali. when he refuses induction into the draft, that's strike three. people didn't see this as a faith decision. they saw it as a black man making a political statement, in essence. given the middle finger to america, and that couldn't stand. if you think about it, since it was based in his genuine sincerity and his love and his curiosity and part of his own journey, it's our reaction which is the divisiveness, not him. he's pushing. he's asking us to understand that black is beautiful. he's asking us to change our relationship to this ever present struggle about race in the united states. and so he's transformative in that provocativeness, i guess, can interpreted, but he didn't send anyone a decapitated black dog's head, as you'll learn in the film. that was sent to him. we have a lot of his even fellow boxers as well as newsmen all

their life refused to call him muhammad ali. they continued with cassius clay. lots of people changed their names. bob dylan was robert zimmerman. marilyn mun roan had a different name. there was a sense he didn't deserve to be treated like a full citizen and it was his undying wish from the moment it seems like he was born, and you can see it in the early shots. he's determined to be resolutely himself, and he's such an inspiration for the rest of us. there's a wonderful shot at the end of the film when howard bryant is talking, we cut away to a demonstration on the brooklyn bridge and there's a young black woman, part of the demonstration. we deliberately don't tell you what it's about and she's wearing a simple black t shirt with muhammad ali on it. all she needed to do to bring to the demonstration, to demonstrate freedom, to demonstrate courage, to demonstrate love was these two simple words, muhammad ali. >> he did become a symbol of so much. what do you want folks to take away from it on sunday, ken?

people who not just sunday but people who watch the entire series, all eight hours, what do you want them to take away from it? >> you know, we do a deep dive, and we show the warts and all, and we show the contradictions. so it's a way for people to understand that kind of the conventional wisdom, the superficial baggage that we carry about people, george washington or muhammad ali, isn't enough. we want to give you all of the material to come to your own decisions. but you know, i have spent nearly 50 years making films about the u.s. but i have also, craig, been making films about us. that is to say the two lower case plural pronoun, all of the intimacy of us and all of the majesty, the complexity, the contradiction and the controversy of the united states. it's a great privilege to occupy that space. i think if you attack each project with that same open spirit as we have done, sarah burns and david mcmahon and i, then you present people with a

much deeper, more resonant, human, flawed, you know, he's like an epic hero. his strengths are great, but his flaws are also great. and he recognized them and made efforts before the end of his life to try to atone for those. it's just a wonderful american story, and we should be proud that when he died, he died the most beloved person on his planet. and that's a pretty powerful thing. and i think anybody would want to know what the secret sauce is. i think we have not laid it out, but i think you can find it in there. you can see it in rashida's beautiful heart. you can see tin the photographs, you can hear it in the humor, in his resolute determination to serve others and not just himself. it's as powerful a story, craig, as i have ever tackled, and i'm so happy and excited to present it on sunday to everybody else. >> considering the stories you have told, that's saying something. ken burns, i look forward to finishing the documentary. so far, it's fantastic.

thank you for bringing it to us. thank you for your time this morning. and again, the documentary series is called muhammad ali. it premieres this sunday, september 19th, 8:00 p.m. eastern, 7:00 p.m. central on pbs. thank you, ken. >> a bit of history out of colorado this morning. democratic governor jared polis married his longtime partner, the state's first gentleman, marlon reese on wednesday in a jewish ceremony in boulder, colorado. it is the first same-sex marriage of a sitting u.s. governor. poulis was also the first openly gay man to be elected governor when he won office in 2018. the couple has been together for 18 years and they have two children. mazel tov. >> up next, perimeter closed. fencing around the capitol back once again ahead of saturday's rally in support of the people arrested after the january 6th riot. next, our new reporting on the paranoia that's playing out in

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right now, capitol police are putting on a show of force ahead of a rally planned for

saturday in support of the january 6th rioters. most visibly, that imposing black fence is back up around the capitol, but as capitol police get ready, nbc news has learned some of the groups that cheered on january 6th are urging followers to stay home this time. our capitol hill correspondent leigh ann caldwell is along that fence, and also with me, nbc news senior reporter, ben collins. he covers online extremism, has his finger on the pulse of the groups that are organizing this thing. ben, stand by. leigh ann, capitol police clearly don't want a repeat of january 6th. besides the fence, what other things are they doing to make sure we don't see a repeat of the insurrection? >> hey, craig. they absolutely do thought want to happen what happened on january 6th because where i'm standing right now is the east front of the capitol, and behind me is where those rioters went

to the capitol, up those center steps, and stormed the capitol. and they are taking every single precaution necessary to make sure that does not happen. so what they have done, they installed these brand-new security cameras, high-tech, facial recognition cameras a capitol police officer told me is straight from afghanistan, and of course, that fence. this black perimeter fence that is stretching around the capitol. it is open today, but it will close tomorrow night. then what we just saw as we saw a bunch of representatives from police departments around the area, including baltimore and prince george's county and even members of the national guard getting a tour and being told what the security plan is. some of them are actually walking by me as we speak. and the process here is to make sure that they are extremely prepared, but also to show that they are very prepared, to deter people from coming here, to know

that they will have things under control. in addition to that, they have increased security at airports for members of congress that are traveling. and they have also asked members of congress to communicate with capitol police if there's any rallies that are planned in their districts and states around the country on saturday. craig. >> all right. leigh ann at the capitol, stand by. ben, you have new reporting about all of the suspicion and paranoia festering inside these far-right groups. what have you learned? >> groups are not excited about this rally. it is not the same vibe as it was in the days before the 6th. in the days before the 6ths, you would see pictures of people's ammo in their hotel rooms. you would see flights of people flying to d.c. that's not what you're seeing. they're either not referencing it or they're saying don't go, straight up don't go. for example, proud boys saying

this is a honey pot. this is a trap by the fbi to lure in trump supporters, coerce them to do violence, and make them all look bad. that's baically what you're hearing from the extremist faces online today. >> i want to read part of your reporting for our viewers and listeners on sirius satellite radio. you write some of the people on these online extremist forms, quote, believe the event is a trap set by federal agents, but are still suggesting their fellow message board users commit violence if they do plan to attend. on at least one forum, a user urged others to engage in violence if they were going to be arrested anyway. given your understanding of these groups, ben, how seriously should capitol police be taking these folks? >> well, you know, always take these groups literally. they always mean what they're saying in the long run. the revolutionary violent

rhetoric still is very much alive in these spaces. but they are urging each other to commit lone wolf attacks. that's what's been happening since january. there are no out in the open plans like before. they don't feel like they're protected by the government like they did back in january. they thought the federal government was on their side in january. now they realize they're at war with the government. what you do here is, if you're going to this trap, make sure you make it count. that's basically what their message is here. but they're widely telling people to stay away. >> so ben, first of all, when i heard there was going to be a rally in support of people who tried to overtake the government, that's a bit of a head scratcher. but this continued idea that there should be sympathy for the insurrectionists on january 6th, is that still pretty pervasive on the dark web? do they still have a massive

following? >> yeah, look. there are two lines of thought on the extremist internet about january 6th. one is it wasn't that big of a deal, these people are being politically persecuted. this is a line that's been touted, by the way, by governments as well. that's what you hear on rt or other russian propaganda outlets. but that doesn't mean it started with them. it started here, on our own extremist forums. that's the wide-scale thing you hear mostly, is this wasn't that big of a deal. why are these people being taken in? then there are people who still deny this happened or deny that once people got in there, they were going to do violence or violence had happened at all or this was some sort of set-up by the fbi. those are the two big things. but you don't hear reality in these spaces. at no point do you hear that january 6th was a terrible thing and we shouldn't do it again. >> ben collins covers the dark web for us.

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now, police say they're also opening a new investigation into the 2018 death of the family's housekeeper. it's a lot to try to make sense of. catie beck has been doing her best in hampton, south carolina. she joins us with the latest details. walk us through this surrender that just happened there and this new investigation. >> well, craig, just moments ago, we saw investigators deliver alex murdaugh here to the facility where he'll face a magistrate where he'll be booked and we're told charged before going to a bond hearing this afternoon at 4:00 in the afternoon. clearly, initially, we had thought his attorneys would be delivering him here today. he has not been charged. he's not under arrest. he's making a vendor. it seems as though investigators had other plans and wanted to make it clear there was no privilege being granted to murdaugh, and he was going to have to be transported in their vehicle inside a sally port.

wee kind of shooting through a fence line to get that video, but we did see him exit the car and going inside, which means the booking process will start now, fingerprints and charges are soon to be. we do know, again, that hearing this afternoon will determine whether or not he gets bond and is able to return to rehab. his attorneys are certainly hopeful that will be what happens. they say his addiction has really ruined and overtaken his life and the root cause of the misappropriations allegations and then of course the attempted suicide, the bizarre plot that we have been telling you about. there is another plot that thickens in this story. that's the new investigation that sled just announced yesterday. they have started into the 2018 death of murdaugh's longtime housekeeper, gloria. that case struck a lot of attention because her family, her two remaining sons, say they were never given settlement money in a wrongful death suit. also, the coroner says she never

actually had an autopsy after her death. and that the cause of death listed on her certificate says natural causes, which is not consistent with someone who was injured in a fall as the story that they have told goes. so there's a lot going on here. we will be able to probably get some sense from attorneys on what comes next when they arrive and then of course we'll be continuing to follow the bond hearing later today and see what that means for murdaugh's freedom. craig. >> catie, again, the experted charge, insurance fraud, just that one charge? >> we understand that he will be facing a single charge, conspiracy to commit insurance fraud at this time. that is not a guarantee on paper. we just know that information from sources. but we will see exactly what's on paper once we get inside that courtroom. >> okay. catie beck there in hampton, south carolina, where again, we

expect to learn just a bit more during that bond hearing at 4:00. thank you. also breaking news this morning, just moments ago, derek chauvin pled not guilty at his second federal arraignment this week. the former minneapolis police officer facing two charges of depriving a 14-year-old boy of his constitutional rights during a 2017 encounter. chauvin allegedly used a similar restraint in this case to the one he used on george floyd. according to the indictment, chauvin, quote, held the boy described as juvenile one by the throat and struck him multiple times in the head with a flashlight. he also held his knee on the boy's neck, even after he was, quote, lying prone, handcuffed, and unresistant. chauvin, you might recall, was sentenced to 22 1/2 years for george floyd's murder back in june. he's pled not guilty to federal charges in that case earlier

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now since george floyd's murder and now sparks of hope are coming out of one of the darkest days in our country's recent history. the george floyd memorial foundation says it now has awarded more than $50,000 in scholarships to high school, college and law school students. the foundation was set up to honor floyd's memory and to also raise awareness of racial injustice, and i am joined now by jakari harris of the george floyd memorial foundation and vanesia campbell a student at the law student, she was one of the recipients of the foundation. jakari, let me start with you. tell me about the scholarship program and who's getting these funds? >> good morning. thank you for having myself and one of our recipient, vanesia campbell on this morning. we are committed to education.

we know education is the prime need of the hour and with that we started this scholarship fund for legal students knowing that we needed more black lawyers to be represented within our criminal justice system. therefore we have a legal scholarship program and therefore we have a high school scholarship program for students entering into an undergraduate school and it is just amazing that we were able to afford the opportunity to serve students this fall, to give these scholarships so they can continue their journey to success. >> vanesia, this is your first year of law school. what does this scholarship mean for you? >> i -- [ no audio ] the social injustice and to be granted this scholarship and honored as one of the recipients is a big deal because the organization is named after someone that had these types of

trials and tribulations put upon him, and it was definitely an honor to be selected of the 15 scholarships. >> vanesia, what are you planning to do with your law degree or have you figured it out yet? >> i haven't committed to one specific field of law. i do know that i have enjoyed working for local government, so i might look into that track or possibly social work. i do hope to at some point become a judge and hold a judgeship. i haven't really decided on what level. >> jakari, george floyd's death was such a turning point in this country. we've seen countless protests standing up to social and racial

injustice. how will these scholarship winners advance the goals of the foundation? >> definitely, why the george floyd memorial foundation for students like vanesia campbell, and we know -- millennials and just people all over this world were out protesting. they were crying. they were demanding and they were asking for justice because we needed justice and accountability for george. with that, we know these students are the future and the work that we know today and we might as well invest in these students who will become world renowned leaders across this world. so we're just excited and we look forward to continuing the scholarship program and just providing more scholarships and resources and tools to students all over and we know that we could be the change that we wish to see at the foundation, and we're being the foundation we wish to see and we're providing a pathway for scholars around

this world. >> vanesia, i'm obviously not a lawyer, but i have friends who are. i hear law school is pretty hard. how is it going so far? >> it's been a challenge, a whirlwind of emotions. obviously, when i learned of my acceptance i was very grateful to be in law school and then the excitement held on for a good while and class is starting and those things during covid and that, so it's been interesting, but i am very grateful to be among my peers and people of like minded nature that are also searching for social justice and advocacy through the law. >> vanesia employ qaael, best of luck to you. i look forward to calling you judge campbell one day and jakari harris, thank you, and

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♪♪ ♪♪ good day. this is "andrea mitchell reports" with three big stories today in washington. first, battle lines over the coronavirus booster with whether a third shot is advisable and for whom. ahead of pfizer's emergency use application tomorrow before an fda outside advisory panel. researchers at pfizer, moderna and biden health officials including dr. anthony fauci are advocating for boosters as efficacy of the initial doses wanes, but two fda officials disagree and resigned over the issue. on capitol hill, the fences surrounding the capitol after the january 6th insurrection went back up overnight. another rally planned for this sally from a group calling itself