arrested in that insurrection effort. we just got in this footage. this is moments ago of the fencing indeed going up around the united states supreme court. we had reported earlier that was going to happen. it's happening now as we speak. sign of the times. that does it for us tonight. we will see you again here tomorrow. "way too early" is up next. a new deal between the united states and australia over nuclear powered submarines is drawing swift backlash from china. president biden said it was meant to reinforce alliances, but the question is why is france so angry? new reporting that president biden failed to sway senator joe manchin to agree to the democrats $3.5 trillion spending plan. the question is, what will it take to get manchin on board? law enforcement is on high alert ahead of justice rally tomorrow. the question is, how concerned do we need to be? it's way too early for this.

good morning and welcome to "way too early." the show that speaks french with an australian accent. i'm joe. whether a third dose of the vaccine is safe or even necessary for everyone. some experts believe there is no need despite a push from pfizer and moderna. miguel almaguer has the latest. >> reporter: just hours before the advisory committee will vote on the boosters voicing support and opposition over a third dose of pfizer's vaccine with a stage set for a controversial decision, pfizer says their data shows booster shots are needed

six months after the second dose as protection from infection begins to wane. but its vaccine is hoyly effective in preventing hospitalization and serious illness. its most critical function. >> this debate over boosters, is that a road of public confidence in vaccines? >> it's normal for scientists to not necessarily have consensus around a specific issue. the problem is, we're in a very toxic environment now because of all the aggression coming from anti-vaccine groups and they use any kind of difference in opinion as a wedge issue. >> reporter: with volumes of vaccine data now public a new study in the new england journal of medicine did find effectiveness of a booster dose. but others writing in "the lancet" it does not show a need for boosting in the general population. >> it has made people feel that the vaccines are not working

when they are still working. >> reporter: feels the message has been muddled in part by the white house. in august. >> get a booster shot. >> reporter: and earlier this month -- >> those eligible will be able to get a booster right away. >> reporter: the president told americans to get their third dose before regulators even reviewed the research. mostly coming from israel where boosters have been widely given. if the fda did authorize the use of a booster, the cdc would still have to determine who qualifies for one. >> the israeli data that i've seen does support the idea of boosting for the over 60s. much more of a gray area for younger people particularly in the 50s and that's what the debate is going to center around. does the data justify the decision? >> reporter: the question, do boosters get us ahead of the virus or is the third dose ahead of the science? >> president joe biden spoke with top democratic leaders about the need to get parts of

his economic agenda passed as well as how to avoid a lapse in government funding. in a call with house speaker nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, the president had a positive discussion with the two leaders about passing the president's $3.5 trillion budget plan while also raising the debt ceiling and avoiding a government shut down at the end of the month. the white house says not only where things stand on reconciliation which is needed for the budget plan, but also passing a continuing regulation to get it funded before the september 30th deadline which is now two weeks away. the road to passing the reconciliation bill just got tougher. the meeting with joe manchin yesterday did not result in a deal on the spending bill. instead, the west virginia senator doubled down on his refusal to back the $3.5 trillion cost. axios puts manchin, defying a president from his own party face to face is the strongest indication yet that manchin is

serious about cutting specific programs and limiting the price tag of any potential bill to $1.5 trillion. president biden also held a personal meeting with senator kyrsten sinema. outrage french officials over being lefout of a new partnership between the u.s., uk and australia. >> i would first say that we value our relationship and partnership with france on a variety of issues facing the global community. we don't see this from our end as a regional divide. we see this as areas and security issues that we want to take on together. >> we cooperate incredibly closely with france on many shared priorities in the indo pacific but also beyond around the world. we'll continue to do so. we place fundamental value on that relationship on that partnership and we will carry forward in the days ahead. >> that was secretary of state

and before that press secretary jen psaki responding to my question about the deals. the bargain which the french foreign minister describe as a knife in the back will see the u.s. provide australia with nuclear power submarines. france working to secure a multi-billion dollar deal with australia but that agreement tied up in court since 2016. french officials are accusing the white house of hiding information from diplomats who suspected a deal was in the works. the last-minute revelation infuriated french officials in washington who canceled a gala at their embassy to protest the policy decision. that's how you know they were annoyed. the aid to fight for independence in 1781. joining us now white house reporting for the "washington post" anne guren. can you explain why france is so upset about this? so upset they canceled the gala. and perhaps more importantly why this deal, it's two levels.

raised questions right about how dependable president biden is the ally to the europeans after he spent so much time reassuring them that america could be trusted again after president trump's time. talk to us about europe and then talk to us about why china is upset? >> sure, jonathan. this story clearly got away from the white house, first of all. they thought they had really pulled off a big coup here in working this deal with australia in concert with the british and i'll get to that in a second. and they either didn't foresee the degree to which france would be angry or they figured they could just manage that later. and it's really blown up in their face. now, what happened is that to date the u.s. has only shared this highly sensitive nuclear propulsion technology for submarines with its closest naval ally britain.

and that was largely aimed at the soviet union. and that's a decade old's agreement. this agreement with the same kind of technology in the pacific in the hands of australia in a direct challenge to china. so that's the main reason that china is upset about this. they see it for what it is, which is a complete and challenge to chinese naval power in the pacific by somebody other than the united states. right now there is a daily cat and mouse between u.s. and chinese ships across the south china sea and else where in the indo pacific. australia is involved and now australia when they get this technology will have much more powerful ships to work with. where france comes in as you said in the opener france was set to sell australia a different kind of submarine and that deal had apparently gone south, but it was a multi-billion dollar deal and

very important to france for it national pride and defense industry. you know, france is a huge arms seller around the world as the united states is. so, you know, it hit france in the pocketbook and also really clearly hit france in the heart. and to have french foreign secretary saying that biden is behaving like trump is something that we just have not seen before. and it's going to really mean that biden has some clean-up work to do when he knows to the u.n. next week. >> comes on the heels, of course, of france and other european countries and nato countries being upset with how the afghanistan withdrawal went down. switching to the domestic front. the president once again yesterday pitched his economic plan and said that they essentially need to keep spending money to keep the economy going. but, as we know, some real resistance from his own party. what is the latest you from the white house about the reality of getting everything passed that

they want to? >> well, as you said in the opener, the latest from joe manchin doesn't look good for biden's prospects of getting even most of what he wanted. the white house has known for a long time they had to trim it and compromise mostly what manchin wants and the outer limits of what that democratic senator would agree to. and, you know, this is a pattern we've seen before where senator manchin it takes a while to draw his boundaries but then he eventually does draw a box around what he's willing to support. and then the white house figures out how they can cram as much of what they want inside that box and i think that's exactly what we're seeing this week. >> "washington post" ann guren, thank you for today. united airlines seeing a vaccination among workers after putting in place a new mandate.

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welcome back to "way too early" coming up on 5:30 on the east coast and 2:30 out west. i'm jonathan lemire. warning about the potential for violence for people involved in or opposed to the justice for j6 rally planned in washington, d.c. that is according to cnn which

shared a briefing with state and local authorities. we are aware of a small number of recent online threats of violence referencing the planned rally including online discussions encouraging violence the day before the rally. that would be today. nbc news cannot confirm the reporting. speaking at cambridge university yesterday nancy pelosi weighed in on the readiness of police outside the washington capitol. >> they are going to come saturday. they have their plans to come. everybody will be ready for them. more ready for them. i'm so proud of our capitol police and law enforcement that saved our lives. it was that close, they saved our lives. i'm the speaker and i have threats all the time. but so i'm not afraid for myself but afraid for the other staff and the members and the irk workers in the capitol.

they were traumatized by the assault on the capitol of the united states. >> former president donald trump is condemning the prosecution of hundreds of his supporters who took part in the january 6th capitol insurrection. in a statement yesterday trump wrote our hearts and minds with the people being persecuted so unfairly related to the january 6th protest concerning the rigged presidential election. in addition to everything else, it has proven conclusively we are a two-tiered system of justice. in the end, justice will prevail. did not mention the far right rally in that statement, but in an interview he described the rally as a, quote, set up and the media would use it to back republicans regardless of the outcome. joining us now former fbi special agent and analyst clint watts. we're delighted to have you on the show this morning but, of course, a serious topic. what concerns and we'll start here. just speak to us for 30,000 feet. what concerns do you have about this pro-trump rally tomorrow?

>> i think the big thing is anybody that still shows up knowing what the law enforcement presence is that day is going to be looking for a fight maybe in certain ways. i think what you find with these extremist groups that are on the fringe of larger protest groups is that if they're still committed to it on january 6th that law enforcement is aware that we're talking about it here on the news throughout the week, that they are very committed and they tend to go to the more extreme to really raise awareness of themselves. the other thing that i think we've consistently learned over the last few months is that the capitol is now a magnet. we had three pretty intense situations at standoffs just since january 6th. so, that concerns me a lot. and then separately is there is also a parallel call for state and local municipaliies doing rallies there and that is what worries me maybe the most because state and locals don't have the resource to protect the way we're going to protect the

capitol this weekend. >> at the capitol, tell us what measures are being taken to make sure that this rally isn't a repeat of january 6th certainly believed to be far smaller but lit a little further on what you just said. the rising concern that maybe something else could happen at a state house somewhere across th country. >> yeah, so the first part which i think is a good sign we have intelligence this time. if you remember last time there was this, oh, everyone was surprised. i don't think we were in the public, but just as surprised as many people at the capitol that day. that is a good thing that we actually have a government apparatus that is prepared in advance. and i think the second thing is we do have the protective fencing. we have a lot of law enforcement on board. they've even gone to the supreme court. i saw yesterday when i was on they're starting to put fencing up there. all positive signs that we have a plan in place. they already talked about what would the national guard do? this is next level better than january 6th. think of the state and local level, though. it is going to stress the systems. just not as many resources

available and what we don't know out of all of this who is really committed to violence and just there for peaceful protest because some people will be there for peaceful protest. but it only takes, as we saw from january 6th a small group of people to breach the capitol to then create a protest that becomes an insurrection. and i think that's always the thing we have to be looking out for when we see that scale. >> clint, one last one for you. we knew certainly in advance that the january 6th rally was hyped for weeks and if not months. we've known the one tomorrow also planned look ahead on the calendar. other landmarks or other dates or other events coming up that concern law enforcement? >> i think for me and for a lot of others that are watching it's just the confluence of many different events. some of the scariest stuff that i see right now is that school boards or local protests around vaccine mandates or mask mandates. totally independent and some

pretty crazy incidents have happened there. i think the longer, longer term one is to watch where the white supremacists online, the most extreme young guys go and they're talking about afghan refugees and perhaps allegedly the proud boys found in michigan. but afghan refugees and refugee centers really targeting immigrants. that is really picked up in the conversation over the last month. >> clint watts, great to see you, sir. thank you so much for being here this morning. turning now to the pandemic. well, an fda advisory panel is set to meet today to discuss vaccine booster shots. in idaho, hospitals are pushed to the brink and overwhelmed by a surge in coronavirus. the situation grown so dire that officials yesterday activated crisis standards of care across the state. the move prevents medical facilities to ration health care and triage patients. under critical standards of care they allow health care providers to make difficult decisions on how to allocate and use scarce medical resources. that means some patients could

go without treatment. the decision comes as several western states struggle to convince those highly skeptical of covid vaccines and mask mandates. florida lost 50,000 people to covid since the start of the pandemic and according to the data one-fourth of those deaths occurred just this summer. the centers for disease control says 50,811 people died from covid, an increase of more than 2,000 in the past week. the state has the 11th worse per capita up from the 17 spot in just the past two weeks. according to the associated press, one in every 100 florida residents who were alive in march 2020 have died of covid-19. only cancer and heart disease killed more floridians. joining california, texas and new york in reaching that grim milestone. united airlines the first u.s. airline requiring employees to be vaccinated says almost 90%

of its workers have gotten its shots. the company set a deadline of september 27th to get their shots or lose their jobs. following in united footsteps frontier and hawaiian airlines made it mandatory. delta hasn't mandated it but says those who aren't vaccinated have to pay a $200 surge in health insurance and since announing that extra fee 4,000 employees got their shots. american and southwest are only offering incentives such as vacation days or gift cards to get workers vaccinated. southwest also just added bonus pay to workers who show proof of vaccination and announced employees who get sick from covid or have to isolate will not receive sick pay if they're not vaccinated. still ahead, the childhood favorites being considered for a totally different class of hall of famers. "way too early" is back to explain that.

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there's a looming fight on capitol hill over the debt ceiling. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell is refusing to work with democrats to help raise the federal debt limit. let's compare about the debt ceiling in 2017 when a republican was in the white house to the comments he made this week. >> there is zero chance, no chance we won't raise the debt ceiling. no chance. america is not going to default. let me be crystal clear about this, republicans are united in opposition to raising the debt ceiling. >> joining us now co-founder of

punchbowl news john. john is here as long as i agree to not mention new york yankees. perhaps explain to us what the debt ceiling is and what happens if congress doesn't handle it in time? >> the debt ceiling the federal government borrows money to operate and borrows money to have a smooth path towards operations. tax receipts from you and i and corporations and businesses and those, you know, go up and down. what the government does is borrow money to function on a day-to-day basis. what's happening right now the government some time next month, we believe the later half of next month. and the republicans are refusing to back a debt ceiling in the case of the senate, there had to be, they can block this from

happening. what they're saying is the democrats need to do this on their own and they're in charge. they've got the white house. they've got congress. they should be taking care of it. there are ways they can do it on their own and mcconnell is saying we're not going to participate on this at all. >> punchbowl news spoke with leader mcconnell this week. what did he tell you and this justification for his wildly different answers when a republican is in office versus a democrat. i mean, i think a lot of people watching the show right now are sort of aghast about what he is doing. walk us through it. >> you know, i've covered mcconal for a long time and i talked to him this week and jake sherman my colleague at punchbowl news and i wanted to say any scenarios where you would participate? mcconnell wasn't having it. he was saying the democrats can do this through what's called reconciliation. they're trying to put together a $3.5 trillion bill on social spending and they can do it that

way and pass on only democratic votes. he's saying democrats, he's been warning for months including an interview we did back in july with him saying democrats need to do this on their own. mcconnell doesn't care if you think he's a hypocrite. he doesn't care. this is where his votes are inside republican senate conference and this is where he is going to go and he's not worried about what the white house thinks about him or what you and i are saying about him. this is how he is going to play it. in a way, he's up front about it. may not like it, but this is the way mcconnell does things. >> you mention reconciliation, we had reporting earlier in the show about president biden's name with senator manchin yesterday. what is the latest you've heard in terms of where things are in terms of how big this package may end up being satisfy those who, frankly, wanted it to be bigger than $3.5 trillion. and what is the timeline considering how much congress has on its plate right now? >> senator biden met or president biden met with senator

manchin and senator sinema for opposing $3.5 trillion price tag. we think it's going to be somewhere in the $1 trillion to $1.5 trillion to $2 trillion. still an enormous amount of money, but a lot money, but less than what the white house has been pushing with the democratic leadership on the hill has been pushing. so the timeline is they're going to try and start moving on this next week, trying to put it together in one package in the house. doesn't mean it is going to be voted on for a while, because this issue of the debt ceiling and this issue of government funding are going to collide with the reconciliation consideration. there is a huge number of issues coming to a head right now on capitol hill. and they're happening in the next couple of weeks, and it is really just -- it is a kind of a frantic legislative pace. we're going to see starting next monday. >> it is going to be busy and john bresnahan of punch bowl news, thank you for being here

today. earlier in the show, we asked, why are you awake? valerie tweeted this, i'm up way too early because i saw the yankees lost and i'm wondering if the sox are going to secure the wild card. valerie, it is too early to say. i do like our favorable schedule the rest of the way. pam wrote this, i'm up way too early doing the overnight shift at the usps in austin, texas, getting the packages ready for delivery. thank you for that. pat emails, got to get my grandson off to school. no better reason to wake up early than that. bill sent us a photo of this little guy saying he's up because of this little ball of fluff. and i got one here from george hayden who says i'm a giants fan, just stare at the ceiling all night. george hayden, mind you, the ilias. coming up on "morning joe," we'll hear from brian deese as congress juggles pressure to pass the president's economic agenda with a looming government shutdown. plus, a check in with a leading

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joining us now to look at axios, political reporter hans nichols. what is the axios one big thing for this morning? >> good morning, john. the one big thing is the meeting between joe manchin and president joe biden, how it went. president had referred to it, but our reporting on this is the meeting didn't go particularly well. and i don't want to say it went poorly , these are two people that have known each other for a long time. how is how we reconstructed meeting. president of the united states asked one of his best senators from his own party whether or not he would support the $3.5 trillion price tag, and joe manchin said no, no, directly to the united states, defying the president in the oval office, having this kind of conversation gives you an indication how entrenched joe manchin is. it is not just a number, right?

bres talked about $1.5 trillion. there is specific policy disagreements that joe manchin has. and he enumerated those policy disagreements with the president. and so the president's been warned, the white house knows where this is a. joe manchin knows where he's at. and now they have to try to bridge the differences. >> axios obtained a memo about the plan to invest in the irs, we heard from the president yesterday. what did the memo you guys found, what does it say? >> so, the white house really wants to be careful about pushing back what they say, pushing back against what they say or miss about irs enforcement. if this moves through the entire process, house mays and means went earlier this week, there will be a big conference, the issue is what you say about bank requirements and reporting

requirements. i know that sounds nerdy and wonky, but at the end of the day, for this to work, to spend additional $70 billion on irs enforcement, or $80 billion, whatever the number is, to get $800 billion potentially up to a trillion in -- you need to have the banks share some reporting requirements to see if anyone is doing anything dodgy in terms of $10,000 in income but a million dollars in in and out and flows. the white house says we won't be snooping on your bank account. we don't want anyone to suggest that. but we need to know basic general information and they're really bracing for what is going to be a pretty intense fight over additional irs agents. it is very popular among democrats, but you saw how this proposal got knocked out and on the bipartisan side on that infrastructure plan. real quickly, on the infrastructure plan, what biden said to manchin is biden sort of gave him his best political analysis. if you're against my 3.5 plan, then that means the $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package could

potentially go down, joe manchin sort of accepted that, but he didn't really -- that didn't force him to budge and move off his position. jonathan? >> it is going to be fascinating to watch the ins and outs of that negotiation in the coming weeks. so many dynamics at play. hans, you've been covering the administration's handling of immigration. what is the latest at the white house and there is some thought it could become part of the reconciliation package, tell us what you got. >> so, the big question here is what happens, whether or not and, again, not to turn this into a wonk fest, but what happens with the parliamentarian and whether they rule in favor and saying the immigration can be handled under this reconciliation rule. and you look at the priorities the biden administration -- immigration is up there. this is one of their day one priorities. this is something they're thinking about, they're trying to sort of make sure that it stays in the bill and it is against the backdrop, as you see against your screen there, against some of the horrific images of people in need, migrants crossing and facing

some really tough situations there. so i think when we look back on this month and you never want to sort of prejudge history before it happens, this is such a crucial month. so many things have happened. and we're focused on the tax side, the spending side, there is an immigration component. we have this diplomatic spat with france now over the submarines for australia. there is a lot going on and the white house obviously is trying to stay on top of it all. there are many different moving parts now and the white house doesn't control all of them. jonathan? >> hans nichols, you're most comfortable at a wonk fest. thank you for being here today and have a great weekend. we'll see you again soon. certainly as hans alluded, this is an important month for the biden administration, coming out of the tumultuous exit from afghanistan, evacuations got better as more time went on there, trying to get the domestic agenda passed, trying to battle climate change and now foreign policy moving to the forefront.

this deal with australia that so angered china and france. next week, the united nations general assembly where joe biden will go as president for the first time. thank you for getting up way too early with us all this week. "morning joe" starts now. >> this week in covid history, it is mid-september 2020 and the president's brain is busy. >> football's boring as hell. they gave him a big shot shot in the ass. he spent $2 million on [ bleep ]. i love the hispanics. >> speaking of hispanics, covid is making a comeback. but president sees the gap fall. >> the blue states had tremendous death rates. if you take the blue states out, we're at a level that i don't think anybody in the world would be at. >> good-bye to the blues. time for some good news. >> vaccines are already in the final stage. >> what's stopping them? >> joe biden's anti-vaccine theories are putting a lot of lives at risk. it is part of the