as we come on the air the fda advisory panel right now debating the case for booster shots with a key vote expected really within a matter of hours and millions of doses in doctor's offices around the country ready for the rollout. the biden administration's been planning to kick off next week. the latest from inside that meeting with our top reporters and experts standing by live. plus, breaking just this morning, joint chiefs of staff chair mark milley for the first time defending the calls he made to his counterpart in china near the end of president trump's time in office, the former president. what he's saying and when he'll say more. and in washington an update expected today on the security preps for tomorrow's so-called justice for january 6th rally. the expectations, the tensions, and the toll it's taking on people who thought they may not

survive that january insurrection, now again reliving those memories. i'm hallie jackson in washington on this friday morning, with a lot to get to on this busy morning. we've got gabe gutierrez outside pfizer headquarters in new york, city, shaquille brewster in baton rouge, louisiana, dr. ashish zha, dean of brown university's school of public health. good morning to you all. gabe, let's talk about the fda meeting. when will we know whether that panel will take one single vote on pfizer boosters for everyone ages 16 and up or whether they might break down this decision into different age groups and do it that way? >> hi there, hallie. that is the big question right now. we expect to know more sometime this afternoon, but right now, that advisory panel is under way, that meeting is under way. just a short time ago one of the first speakers cautioned the advisers on that panel not to pay attention to political or moral considerations in this case but simply to look at the

data. of course, as you know, hallie, the biden administration last month laid out this timetable for a booster rollout, that is supposed to start september 20th. guess what? that's monday, and right now, there is no consensus about what to do next. this speaker cautioned the panel not to take that into consideration and also not to take into consideration these moral questions about vaccine equity. the world health organization of course has been cautioning affluent countries from starting any booster campaign when so much of the world has not been able to vaccinate its population with even one shot so certainly those questions are hanging over this meeting but right now data is presented and questions will be asked throughout the next couple of hours of this advisory panel. the advisory panel is expected to recommend whether or not more americans should get this shot, that yes, as you mentioned, the question is, is it 16 and 17-year-olds will be included, even though there hasn't been any data about that age group.

>> right. >> and if they do recommend that some americans may get it, the fda typically adopts that recommendation and next week cdc advisers are set to meet on this issue. a lot of questions up in the air as the biden administration has the timetable on monday supposedly to start this booster rollout. >> dr. ja, difficult us your professional assessment, how do you think this is going to go down? >> it's always hard to predict what the advisory committee will do. let me talk about the science. i think the science is clear older immunocompromised people who have multiple chronic conditions would when it fit from a third shot and i expect the advisory committee will come out and say as much. the big debate is young, healthy people. there i think the data is much less clear so whatever they recommend, the fda could certainly make the determination

that older more vulnerable people need the booster shot and everybody else does not right now because i think young healthy people there's not much evidence i'm seeing that they need the third shot. >> shaq, you're at the health clinic in louisiana giving third doses to people immunocompromised. what are you hearing what's happening behind the scenes to get things up and running in a bigger way if boosters are proved and they start doing that next week >> reporter: they're saying they're ready. there are clinics across the country providing the third dose for people who need it the most. here in the state of louisiana, the state department of health saying the vast majority of people who have come in for the third dose of this vaccine have been seniors. you see with the numbers on the screen, we have a graphic there, about 73% of people getting that third dose are 60 years old and over. so they have some experience with this. they've been doing this for some time and i've been talking to

providers across the state and you're hearing a consistent message. one is they're watching this fda advisory meeting very closely, not just for a decision, but for any new data that comes out of it. two, they have the supply and three, i'll let you hear from a doctor himself, the idea they've had a heads up that this is coming. listen here. >> we've been planning on this for a couple of weeks since all of the initial talk was out about the booster. the booster, the shot for the immunocompromised patients has been going well. we put in process ready to go whenever we get that guidance from the fda and the cdc. >> reporter: one thing you're hearing is that they've seen what high demand looks like. we saw that in the spring, so it's not something new that they have to recreate but it's really going back to what they feel like they've already done.

hallie? >> as we talk about louisiana where shaq is, that's one of the states that signed on to the new threat of legal action. 24 attorneys general on collision with president biden over vaccine mandate and testing requirements. what are you hearing from the white house end of this? >> reporter: two dozen attorneys general, republicans all of them from south carolina, missouri, and florida, wrote a scathing open letter to the president calling his plan "disastrous and counterproductive" and saying if your administration does not alter its course the undersigned will seek every legal available option to hold you accountable and uphold the rule of law." the white house was bracing for the legal fights when they made the announcement last week and the president spoke to this specifically yesterday to his remarks on the economy,' ccused several of the republican governors are playing into the worst kind of politics. he specifically called out those in charge of florida and texas,

remember in the last couple of weeks, he hadn't been doing any callout by name but talking about some of these gop governors who he says are really getting in the way of what this public health crisis is doing when it comes to vaccine mandates. so the white house knows this is also going to take a long time, and so letters like these from attorneys general obviously they're going to take any legal option they say but they're still waiting for the department of labor to really write this emergency rule and implement it for these companies that have more than 100 employees to really vaccinate more of their workers. the white house knows this is going to stretch into the fall, though, so they're gearing up and previewing what is really a political battle on top of of course this public health one, hallie. >> dr. jha, what do you tell people who have a hard time perhaps sifting through what might be a little bit of skepticism on the fda side and the value of boosters and the confidence on that from those behind the booster shots, right, the pfizers and modernas of the

world who stand to ultimately make a profit off of that. >> what i say is i don't think they should be getting their advice from the pharmaceutical companies and should not be getting their advice from random detractors on twitter and facebook. they should listen to our nation's experts, dr. walensky and dr. fauci and others deep into the data and i think the message from this will emerge quickly, high-risk people benefit from the boosters. lower risk people probably fine to go without. let's see what the fda lands on this. >> dr. ashish jha, shaq brewster, monica alba, gabe gutierrez, thank you. we expect updates imminently. next hour dr. fauci is joining craig live to answer all of your pandemic questions, a special edition of "craig melvin reports" today at 11:00. we have other news developing this morning, joint chiefs chair general mark milley talking now for the first time after he was put into a

firestorm over revelations in this new book "peril" that's out, his new comments have come out this morning, he's saying his calls to a chinese general were "perfectly within the dut ease and responsibilities" of his job adding those calls are "routine" and meant "to reassure both allies and adversaries." republicans are calling on president biden to fire mark milley. nbc's courtney kube is at the pentagon. he might be saving any of the zingers or fireworks as much as those exist for a senate hearing later this month, right? >> definitely saving some of the specific details about both of those two scenarios that were described in the woodward and costa book, the phone call with the chinese counterpart and what some describe as a secret

nuclear meeting. we didn't get any real details. he spoke to a couple of reporters traveling with him into europe, in greece today actually, but he didn't say anything substantive about either story other than to defend his role in his call with his chinese counterpart. he did say he was going to save more specifics for when he was on the hill. this is a testimony that's supposed to have the end of the month that was supposed to be about the withdrawal from afghanistan. it was already expected to be a contentious hearing with him and secretary of defense lloyd austin but now, what would have been a lot of fireworks about afghanistan will also be a separate set of fireworks dealing specifically with the book. what general milley said specifically overnight about this call with the chinese, he said these are routine calls in order to discuss issues of the day to reassure allies and adversaries in this case in order to ensure strategic stability and these are perfectly within the duties and responsibilities of the chairman. so it's similar to what he said

and his spokesperson said in a statement with about 24 hours after these first allegations came out, hallie. >> courtney kube live at the pentagon, thank you very much. coming up on the show, capitol police getting ready to give an update on security ahead of tomorrow's requesting justice for j6 rally." we'll take you live to the hill and live with one house democrat as tomorrow's rally opens up old wounds from the attack on january 6th. plus the rally is one of the reasons why our political unit says former president trump remains in full control of the gop this morning. the other big, brand new reason, coming up. by joe esposito♪ ♪ [triumphantly yells] [ding] don't get mad. get e*trade. now, we all know progressive offers 24/7 protection, but we also bundle outdoor vehicles with home and auto to help people save more!

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we're getting new word from capitol police on plans to update everybody on preparations for tomorrow's pro-january 6th rally. there will be a news conference with the chief of capitol police in two and a half hours from now comes as donald trump gives new

fuel to conspiracy theories about tomorrow's rally calling it a setup in a new interview, as the trauma of what happened on the day of the january 6th riot making tomorrow deeply unsettling for so many people, having to remember again and relive again what happened on the 6th. bracing for maybe hundreds of people to come to the capitol to in effect celebrate a day that changed their lives. senator murkowski, for example, telling the "new york times" in a new piece she moved out of her hideaway office saying "it was just too much deja vu." congresswoman escobar hasn't been up in the gallery since she was hiding since the 6th, she had anage indict attack on the flight to d.c. after the insurrections. a communications director remington belford saying he's really jumpy. and 17-year veteran of the capitol police saying "i did not think i was going to make it home. as bad as january 6th looked on film, it was probably ten times

worse than that. i'm lucky to be alive." garrett haake is on capitol hill and we thought it was important to explain sort of what people who work on the hill, who were there on the hill on the 6th are going through now because there are some real question marks about how big tomorrow is going to be, right, with again these conspiracy theories as we've been talking about on our show telling people stay away, it's a honey pot, some kind of a trap, they're bringing you as a false flag to try to arrest you, that's coming from the former president of the united states. but regardless of what this looks like, there is real apprehension that cannot be discounted, right, on capitol hill even as editorial you look at how much do you talk about it, how much do you explain sort of what's going on and how much, where is the line between doing that and overblowing what this could be. >> reporter: hallie, you're pulling back the curtain on some of the conversations we've had even in the newsroom. how do you report on this event on the preparations for this event like the reinstallment of the security fence without hyping it up, making it into

something it's not. we know this event will not be like january 6th was, but some of that is because of this incredibly muscular posture toward this event that is being taken by capitol police, by d.c. police, you mentioned that news conference, the two chiefs of those two departments appearing side by side in the hours before this event is supposed to start just to brief the public on what's going to happen. lawmakers were getting briefed last week, monday, lawmakers had a closed door briefing. capitol police officers i talked to started hearing about this event weeks ago when they were told their schedules would change to make sure all of them could be on duty today, but all of this i think is as you say something of this incredibly we'd rather be safe than sorry kind of approach here that stems from the fact that january 6th riot here was so traumatic and so scarring for everyone who lived through it, and the reassurances of the capitol police that they are going to take this really robust, muscular approach to securing the entire complex and the

neighborhood around it. remember, capitol hill exists in a neighborhood. it's not like the white house kind of out on its own in an island. >> right. >> reporter: all of that is reassuring to people here and capitol hill sources and friends of mine that live in the area who would normally be in this area recreationally on the weekend will keep their distance and hope by monday we're talking about how overblown all of this was. >> garrett haake live outside the capitol, are you working this weekend? will we see you out there tomorrow? >> reporter: i will be out there all day. >> be safe, see you later today on msnbc. next up, once a rising star in the republican party is retiring at the age of 36 and who he's calling a cancer on his way out. plus we're getting into an important and kind of overlooked issue for a long time with one of the first members of congress, the first member to take paternity leave. congressman colin allred joins us live to talk about that and a lot more, after the break.

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this morning yet another new sign former president donald trump is still winning the fight for the republican party's heart and soul, even after his presidential defeat. the latest case in point, what happened overnight, ohio

republican congressman anthony gonzalez, one of ten republicans who voted to impeach donald trump announcing he will not seek re-election. he was faced in a fairly tough primary from trump-endorsed max miller, a former aide to the former president. gonzalez saying now while his family was at the heart of his decision he added "the current state of our politics especially many of the toxic dynamics inside our own party is a significant factor in my decision" and told the "new york times" donald trump is a cancer on the country. joined by senior political editor mark murray. your thesis donald trump still rules the gop and he's out with a new statement this morning that shows he knows it. >> yeah, absolutely, hallie and a statement he ended up referring to congressman gonzalez as a rino republican in name only, even though gonzalez has staunch conservative credentials. the former president was just basically spiking the pro

verbial football which is interesting because gonzalez just happens to be an old ohio state all-american wide receiver and so why you end up seeing gonzalez saying he's not going to seek re-election, watching the debate between terry mcauliffe and glenn youngkin, refused to distance himself from trump even though trump lost virginia by ten percentage points and kind of getting the primary set up where liz cheney faces a difficult republican primary in wyoming, add it together and you see eight months since january 6th, hallie, that this is still donald trump's republican party. >> can you talk about what this means for the people who are conservatives, right, who are republicans like anthony gonzalez who do not want this to be donald trump's party. anthony gonzalez was former football player. he was considered to be somebody who is an up-and-comer inside

the gop. he's 36. younger than both of us i think, mark. what does it say somebody like anthony gonzalez couldn't make it in today's republican party? >> you can't make it in the republican party if you somehow oppose donald trump and again, anthony gonzalez ended up voting to impeach trump after january 6th, despite all of the rest of his voting record is seen as persona non-grata. divide the republican party into three groups, one the staunch trump allies, the matt gaetzes of the world, and you have people like anthony gonzalez who basically might disagree privately with donald trump, might actually take action on an impreachment vote but see there's no place for the party at all and them the people who are vocally opposed to the president, a sliver of republicans. the point you're making and i agree if there's not a place for

the anthony gonzalezes of the world, the republican party is smaller and smaller. >> gonzalez is one of the reasons he's choosing not to run is because of the safety threats to him and his family, the fact that his wife, his kids need protection essentially even in the airport. it is a statement on where we are in politics. thank you very much. appreciate it. we want to talk about brand new data coming in from the u.s. census showing something super interesting, something that you may not have expected, showing more men than ever are taking time off from work after the birth of their first child. the new numbers show that between 2016 and 2019 two-thirds of men who became dads took some type of leave in the first few months after their kid was born. 1975 earlier, fewer than 8% of men. overall only 25% of all u.s. companies give some point of paid parental leave, only one in four. a little bit higher for bigger companies, 35% but still. here is the d.c. tie.

in congress, lawmakers are considering a biden proposal of 12 weeks paid parental and sick leave for most workers as they hash out the $3.5 trillion spending bill. i bring in the congressman the first known member of congress to take paternity leave, in 2019 by the way, congressman colin allred, democrat from texas. good morning and thank you for being on the show. >> good morning. it's really fantastic to be with you, to see the numbers, i think that's indicative of why we need to have this policy in place. >> the numbers are interesting but don't make sense given some other figures that we've seen, like for example a poll just recently showing there's a stigma, two-thirds of men think there's this unspoken rule that dads should not take leave that it's considered a badge of honor not to leave. the moms can do it but dads maybe shouldn't. people still think that. >> the data showed shows men taking some form of leave. that doesn't mean paid time off to be with their family. >> correct.

>> we don't know how much time that is and 9% of men in the private sector work in jobs where paid paternity leave is offered to all male employees, less than 10%. so there certainly is still a culture shift that has to occur. i know this from my time in the nfl, discussions around player having a child where we have to understand that having a child is the same for the man and the woman involved in it and that they both need to have time. >> not quite the same as far as physicality of things i need to note. it's also a privilege to be able to take paid leave because as you point out, not everybody gets that. where do things stand on the congressional side on this presidential plan from president biden for paid parental and sick leave. what is your level of confidence this gets through not just the house but the senate in light of the reporting out from senator manchin's meeting with president biden which didn't seem to go that great if you're looking for

a $3.5 trillion package, not a $1.5 trillion package. >> we shouldn't talk about the overall number because that's going to change as negotiations go on. talk about the policies put in. i think the 12 weeks of paid leave that the ways and means committee passed is going to stay in the house and pass the house and stay in the senate version. this is something i think the american people are ready for, not one of the piggest ticket items we're talking about, hallie as you probably know and one the data is clear it has more of an economic impact in terms of what it generates and what it will cost us. >> i have a couple other questions to ask you and can't help but notice the jersey hanging on the wall behind you there. you played football against anthony gonzalez, who we just talked about, the congressman who announced he's not running again on the gop side. he's facing a tough primary potentially. you know him, played football with him. what do you make of this move by

him? >> i competed against him, he was rival, played for the colts. he is a friend of mine, a good and decent guy and it's a loss for the congress, it's a loss for the country. if you don't have an anthony gonzalez in the congress, i think it's a sign that the republican party is fundamentally broken in many ways. the fact that anthony, who i think probably could have won his primary and he said that in his statement, he thought he could have been successful, but even if he was, it wouldn't have been worth it to be a part of the caucus in the direction that it was going, how trumpy it was going to be. that to me is extremely concerning and of course also the fact that like me and like a lot of my colleagues, he has serious security concerns and both of us have young kids that are playing into this. these are conversations that they have in other countries where if you're serving an office, you may have to worry about political violence descending upon you. that shouldn't be something that happens in the united states. >> let's talk about security concerns as it relates to

tomorrow's rally, what we're expecting on capitol hill. are you satisfied with the preparations that have been put in place so far? >> we clearly learned a lot of lessons, obviously the fence up, which there wasn't on january 6th. i was on the house floor on january 6th when that mob tried to break in, when they attacked so many of our police officers. this is extremely serious for us as a country and as you talked about in the earlier segment, the fact that here we are, all these months later, after the election, still talking about the results of the election and whether or not it was stolen. an election republicans did quite well across the country particularly in congress where they gained seats is so dangerous for us as a country, and we're doing the right things in terms of security. i think the national guard is on call and ready to go, d.c. police, capitol police are ready to go but i also think about the capitol police who are friends of mine and about the stress i know they're under since the 6th. >> i have only about 30 seconds left but i have to ask you about

this briefing that all lawmakers are about to get on where things stand with the reconciliation process. what are your expectations on that, congressman? >> it's funny, we've all been in mark-ups in our various committees this week. i don't know what happened in the other committees. i want to hear and find out where they are in those committees but a long day and a lot of back-and-forth and anybody who knows anything about congress knows that and that's the process and it doesn't mean there's something wrong. i think it's a healthy part of any legislative body trying to figure out how they'll do a large, important bill. >> congressman colin allred, thank you very much for your time and thanks for being with us this morning. we appreciate it. coming up, new reporting out today on why taxpayers, you paid more than 50,000 bucks to protect this guy, a trump cabinet member, after that person was no longer a trump cabinet member. the reporter behind that scoop is here. plus, what it's like to be a top morning news anchor as a woman in taliban-controlled afghanistan. a perspective and a story you will not want to miss.

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goes anywhere, they take their secret service agents with them. when steve mnuchin, remember him, went to israel and qatar for meetings his detail was right there with him. the thing is when he went to the middle east for the meetings, he wasn't the treasury secretary anymore and he hadn't been for months but you, you people who pay taxes still paid to make sure that the private citizen and multimillionaire was safe during his personal business trip, all of that is according to a new peace out in "the washington post." how much did it cost? more than the average person makes in an entire year in the state of florida, more than $52,000. former president trump extended secret service protection not just to his adult kids but

mnuchin and mark meadows and robert o'brien. now mnuchin's spokesperson is telling "the post" he didn't ask for protection and will reimburse. he could have declined it like everybody else at any point for any reason. here is one of the reporters david fahrenthold of "the washington post." you follow the numbers and what things cost and issues like this. first of all, lay out what happened here and the context of this, because the secret service has a gigantic budget, $2 billion plus. so 52 grand, all right, like sure that's a lot of money to regular people, maybe not in the context of this budget. explain why this is significant. >> these are people that the secret service isn't supposed to protect. the way it's supposed to work when the president leaves office the secret service protects him and his spouse and any children that are not 16 yet. in the past some presidents extended protection for college

aged children. president trump in the last hour of his presidency puts this unexpected burden on the secret service, protect my four adult children, one is in his 40s, protect three of my top aides, one is a multimillionaire and do it right now for the next six months, 24 hours on the taxpayer's dime. the overall cost was $4.7 million. >> how does it happen presidents say protect my former cabinet officials after i'm out of office? >> as far as we can tell never. there's nothing in the law that says president trump could do this. one of the things that puzzled me what was the legal authority. he never published an executive order, presidential directive, anything explaining what he was doing and what the rationale was. he just did it. so there's really not a provision in the law to do this but it happened anyway. >> okay, so let's talk about rationale. four kids, family members, let's set that aside in a different category. why mark meadows and steve

mnuchin, why not betsy davos, why not others? >> when they were cabinet secretaries they got secret service protection. the education department, the department of state have their own security forces that protected their cabinet officials while they were cabinet official. the secret service used to be in the treasury, the treasury secretary is one of the folks they protect. these people had secret service and trump said everybody who has it now on the last day of my presidency, extend that for another six months for free. >> do we know that it's done now, no more protection for these folks? >> it did end in july, so looking at the receipts you can see the receipts end after that. >> i love the vibe, the fast-paced rapid-fire questions. what else is the spokesperson telling you? >> mnuchin is one of seven that responded to him. everybody else i asked why didn't you say no? mark meadows declined comment,

the rest didn't respond so mnuchin said something and what he said was i didn't ask for this but once i got t i didn't say no for unstated security reasons. i think that i'm willing to reimburse certain expenses, but his total tab was $479,000, is he going to reimburse $100 or the whole thing? still waiting for details from him on that. >> i know when you get them, you will publish them and we'll have you back on the show to talk about them. david fahrenthold, thank you, appreciate it. women journalists in afghanistan are faced with what feels like something impossible, right, report the news, the actual news every day under the watchful eye of the taliban. a group that says they're committed to a free press and women's rights but they're cracking down on women, demonstrating for those same rights in the streets of kabul and they are violently assaulting journalists who are covering those demonstrations. you could see some images here. richard engel spoke with one of

afghanistan's most prominent female journalists about what that's like under drastically different circumstances now. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> reporter: yalda ali is afghanistan's favorite television host, anchor of "good morning" from 7:00 to 9:00 each day, afghanistan starts its day with her. but now yalda, 25 years old, has to strike what may be an impossible balance, presenting the news honestly, without provoking the wrath of the taliban. are you free to say what you want or do you think twice before everything you say, think how are the taliban going to react to this? >> translator: i have to be very careful about every single word and also about the makeup that i wear, how i dress, and how i behave around men. we don't know if we have freedom of speech, so we have to be careful so that the taliban don't get crazy and we get

harmed. >> reporter: the taliban, who used to stone women to death and ban them from going to school, promise they've now changed, but when women protested earlier this month for equal rights, the taliban crushed them. several male journalists covering the protest were savagely beaten and this is what the taliban like to see on tv, state-run broadcasts showing non-stop displays of taliban power. but not tolo tv. its reporters are still out gathering when kabul fell, one of their female reporters was quick to interview the taliban on air. that's guts. yalda is pushing the limits in her way, too. she still wears makeup, less than before. she dresses more conservatively, too, unlike the grim-faced taliban, she smiles. >> translator: i come in front

of the camera with all this fear in my heart, but i smile. >> reporter: so your smile is a little rebellion? >> translator: we are very careful in chatting, smiling or laughing. the taliban say women should cover from head to foot but that'spersonality. i'm very cheerful with everyone. >> reporter: for now the taliban are allowing tolo tv to operate, leaving it perched on the slippery slope of self-censorship and tolo has a history with the taliban. the group has attacked the station twice since it was founded killing eight of his reporters and staff. we have a show in the united states very similar to this one, do you have a message for our anchors in studio and for our viewers? >> translator: journalists can give people hope. people start their day with us. if the regime changes and people don't see their anchor, their hearts are broken. they wonder what happened to her? in these conditions, i would like to tell them to always

smile, because one smile can lift a nation. >> reporter: yalda has only been in the anchor chair at that job for two weeks. her predecessor left this country when so many people escaped as american troops left. yalda is handling it with incredible bravery, poise and grace. >> richard engel reporting for us there, fascinating story from him. catch more of richard sunday, just a couple days, special edition of "on assignment" reporting on the 20-year war in afghanistan, telling the story of that war through the eyes of an enlisted soldier and afghan people who face an uncertain future. sunday at 10:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. after the break new nbc news reporting on what's unfolding in texas, details why more than 10,000 of these migrants are crowding under an overpass in texas. stay with us. 's important to have confidence in the nutritional drink you choose. try boost glucose control.

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so take a look at these pictures we're showing you on the left side of your screen from a bridge in de rio, texas. not hundreds, but thousands of migrants gathering. the number is about 10,000 as of

this morning. that is double the estimate from wednesday and it's expected to keep going up. as you just saw a big influx of migrants crossing where border agents are struggling to keep up with processing all these people. julia joins me with more of her new reporting now. so talk about why these numbers are getting so high at this particular place and separately, what kind of tensions this may be creating behind the scenes and the white house and inside the biden administration? >> this is an unusual place to see this number of immigrants. typically rio grande valley is the biggest sector. the most highly trafficked. del rio is usually around the third. it's a really desolate area, but what i'm hearing from my sources is this is an area where cartels have been bringing mainly haitians. it was after the biden administration stopped deporting them. but it seemed there was a window where these cartels decided to

exploit that, tell haitians they could come to the united states, but what's fascinating about this is a lot of people are not coming directly from the island. they're actually people who left haiti years ago and moved into south america and they are now coming up. that's what i'm hearing and that's what they're tracking. the cartels are exploiting this and bringing them up through this passage that this cartel controls near del rio. they cross the river and stay under that bridge. i was just there by that bridge a month ago speaking to the chief of chp and there were about 75 people behind them. now you can see 10,000. the number is climbing. they expect it to be 11,000 at least by the end of the day. as far as tensions in the biden administration, you can guess that this is another point in this immigration crisis that has made the biden administration have to come to grips with the reality of are there policies we've put in place here that

have, while they may comport with their values, created something of a humanitarian crisis when you have so many people packed in a place. dhs simply isn't able to process and care for these people in what they would want to be a safe, orderly and humane manner. >> really quickly, the next steps, if the numbers are expected to grow to 11,000 in the next few hours, what happens then. >> deportations have started again. a lot of rights groups have not had time to move people back to haiti, but some people have started to be deported. people i've spoken to this morning say we can expect the surge to continue for the next two weeks until they're able to process more people and ramp up those deportations then they expect that word to get back. that you will be sent back. follow what happens to the families and see if they're able to seek asylum. >> thank you so much for your

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