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beginning tomorrow the launch of new show show ayman. watch him saturdays at 8:00 eastern and sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. that does it for me. the reid out with joy reid is up next. >> that's exciting. i love ayman. but i want to see a jason johnson show. that's what i'm thinking about. let's work on that. >> interesting idea. yeah, yeah. >> i like this idea, okay. i'm going to noodle on it. but first i'm going to do a show for an hour. you have a great weekend. good evening, everyone. we begin the reid out tonight with the gop's self-emulation in the name of the big lie. last night anthony gonzalez the two-term republican congressman from ohio announced he's retiring in 2022. he told "the new york times" politically the environment is so toxic and called donald trump a cancer for the country, adding
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i don't believe he could ever be president again. most of my political energy will be spent working on that exact goal. gonzalez was one of the ten republicans who defied the cult and voted to impeach trump, an act of conscience that earned him death threats from the most rabid members of the party base. his retirement is now yet another example of how the big lie is destroying the republican party from within. just three years ago in 2018 gonzalez was a prized recruit for the gop, the son of a cuban american imdwrnt, a former star athlete and first-round nfl draft pick. he went onto business school and then became the first ever latino to represent the state of ohio in congress. in other words, his future was supposed to be bright. but now he's a pariah in a party that welcomes only extremists to its ranks. according to a recent prri poll a whopping 71% of republicans believe the lie that the 2020 election was stolen from trump,
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and 35% believe that violence is a legitimate tool in political discourse saying that, quote, patriots may have to resort to violence in order to save the country, which by the way is a core tenant of fascism. as one republican lawmaker told politico this week the majority of the republican base feels that january 6th was justified. every day i hear the word civil war every day. all of this explains why more than a few experts view today's republican party as a threat to national security. it's also why federal law enforcement has taken the dramatic step of fortifying our nation's capitol in advance of tomorrow's proinsurrectionists demonstration. if violence does break out the capitol police said today that this time they're prepared. >> there have been some threats of violence associated with this -- the events for tomorrow. and we have a strong plan in place to make sure it remains
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peaceful and if violence does occur we can stop it as quickly as possible. the organizer of tomorrow's rally is matt bray nard, a one time trump campaign aid. the ap report said after the election he raised more than $675,000 to seek out supposed voter fraud his baseless claims were then used in pro trump cases earning him nearly a quarter million dollars in consulting fees. he calls the insurrectionists patriots and on sunday describing the cause, his cause as the greatest civil rights battle of our time among other idiocy. >> this isn't just the greatest civil rights battle of our time, we are at a precipice now. whether or not we succeed we'll
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have dramatic implications for the future of man kind. >> joining me now is ben collins, olivia troy and director of the republican accountability project, and keith boykin, political commentator and author of the new book, a race against time, the politics of the darkening america. this maximalest talk, it goes along with his background. people may not know he's the guy who brought the golden statue of trump to the cpac in march which was warshiped by trump followers like the golden cap in the bible. he's also somebody who this is an interesting piece from mother jones. in 2017 he created a literary magazine titled in honor of the 17-year-old ultraright-wing nationalist in japan who brutally murdered a legislator and chairman of the japan socialist party in 1960.
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this man is a hero for braynard. he described this murderer as a nationalist who violently killed a nationalist. so he seems to fit right in with the zeitgeist of what has become the party base. your thoughts. >> yeah, he seems to have a good finger on the pulse of the extremist message boards that have been pushing this exact message, january 6th when some sort of valiant not insurrection but revolution for these people. he's deeply into this, and he'll say this out loud, by the way. four years ago he started look ahead america, his group to give people like a turn out to vote situation. and then he shifted because he realized they didn't really care about that. people in the trump space didn't
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care about that. they started to care more about voter fraud and things like that in the last year. and then he -- i think he started to read the tea leaves here in i guess the next thing here is saying january 6th these people are political prisoners and that a talking point in those spaces. >> it's hard to tell whether people like braynard pushing this seem to believe it. he seems to deeply believe it. he seems to be an extremist himself or just in on the grift or a combination of both. does it matter from a homeland security standpoint whether the people pushing others to come to something like this, whatever this event is going to be tomorrow, whether they personally believe it or not from a security standpoint. >> no, it doesn't at all. it's actually, you know, what he says, his words and the way he behaves and the things he does it's radicalizing supporters, it's what it's doing. it's radical liesing americans across the country, and he's bringing them together.
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and whether he believes it or not he likely knows it. he likely knows this is likely to lead to violence, but he doesn't care. and as long as he's padding his pockets along the way that's even better. >> kate, i'm glad to have you here tonight. i want to read an excerpt from your new book race against time. you write this, the sad truth is nearly every leader in the republican party knew donald trump was toxic but embraced him anyway because he alone could speak to the party's base of angry white voters. republicans had spent nearly a century mining racial resentment. from there they built a gold plated monster of racism, bigotry and xenophobia that one day they could no longer control. the gold plated monster, perfect timing for somebody who's leading an event tomorrow who literally built a gold plated monster for cpac. your thoughts on all this and how the changing racial construct of america is playing into it. >> yeah, i mean the problem is
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we have only one functioning political party in our country right now. the republican party has basically ceased even attempting to be a political party. we knew this some time ago. if you look back in 2012 a report was released in "the washington post" where they said republicans are the problem. it's an asymmetrical problem in our country. they'd just lost to president obama for the second time in 2012 and did this big autopsy that said we need to be more inclusive as a party and what do they do? they go and elect and nominate donald trump to be their standard bearer and he comes in and suddenly become in bed with their post and this has suddenly become the party of donald trump. and we saw in his administration. >> i mean to even go to the person that is likely because trump is now endorsed him to replace anthony gonzalez in
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ohio, he's another former trump aid. a lot of them are, a guy named max miller in july politico reported max miller has a history of aggressive behavior that includes slapping his ex-girlfriend. miller denied the assault, olivia, it's the extremist, the violent, white nationalists, the worst of the worst of the people who worked personally for donald trump basically they are now central to the party and its future. >> yeah, it's a bunch of thugs recruiting thugs, to be honest. and i think this is what we're seeing across the board. and fundamentally it's really dangerous what's happening here. i was really saddened to see representative gonzalez decide not to run. you know, i'm grateful. actually i commend him for telling the truth because the truth is rarely told by republicans right now, and it needs to be told. i commend him for coming forward and saying i can no longer be a part of this but this is
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dangerous because it paves the way for another trumpest to take office. and in districts like this that tend to lean republican, that are red districts i think that is where their real battle is going to be in private parties is to push back on this maga ugly extremist movement so that we can sort of try to control the insanity that's happening right now in the republican party. >> it's hard to imagine doing that, keith. you as a very, very, very young man, virtually a teenager back in the clinton era when there was already a dust up or bill clinton apologizing over enslavement and the idea he was too chummy, too close to black people, you know you could see the roots of it even then. from your point of view and you've just written a whole book about this, can you see a turn out of this? because i can't see one. i don't know if you can. >> i don't see it either, joy, and this has been a transition for the republican party since
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1964 when they nominated barry gold water a few weeks after, so the party of lincoln basically started dying in 1965, the white voters started moving to the republican party. and when donald trump came in and hammered the last nail in the coffin it's no longer a party of lincoln but white supremacy, racist and trump people. the odd part about it is if you look at the demographics where our country is changing white people are the only group of people actually voting for republicans today. african-americans, latinos and asian-americans are all voting for democrats overwhelmingly. this is a problem for the republican party moving forward, and they've decided they're going to double down on this even though they can't continue to win this way in a changing democracy, they've decided to gin up the process, engineer mechanisms to make sure they can't continue to win. that's why we see the voter restriction laws taking place. i don't see the republican party changing especially considering
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the fact 74 million americans actually went to vote for donald trump even all the racism, chaos and corruption and bigotry by his administration. >> and the deaths, half a million deaths. given that, christopher wray has talked about a lot of the national security threat this now entails. you cover a lot of sort of griminess you're seeing on social media because essentially this is now fascism in action. and so what are you anticipating? what are you hearing? what is being said, you know, in sort of the dark reaches of the right wing interwebs about this weekend? should we be nervous here in d.c.? >> i will say the revolutionary fervor is higher than ever. they are angrier than ever and more committed to talking about balance in the abstract. everything is a civil war in these spaces. that said they don't organize being public anymore because they don't think they have their guy in office. they don't think they're protected. in the days before january 6th
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you would just see a constant stream of ammo on these forums and direct plans to attack the capitol on these forums. you don't see that anymore. tat might be happening in private telegrams, private group chats or something like that. it's not something you'd be able to see out in the open. out in the open they're saying don't go. the telegrams of the proud boys are saying don't go. the donald which is like the big trump forum they're saying it's not the same thing. who knows what's happening in private? >> olivia, i'll ask you what do you think is going on in the department of homeland security right now in terms of planning because they were literally caught flat-footed january 6th i think it was because the president's guys and they are mainly white so they didn't even try to prepare. whu do you think is going on in dhs right now? >> i'm going to agree with those statements because they should have been preparing and it should be very different. what we're seeing now is the preparations from what i've heard is that the transparency is definitely there. there's a lot more coordination
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and transparency in terms of what the intel is seeing. and look i still think january 6th wasn't a failure of intel. all the intel was there. it's just the failure to act on it. >> you're absolutely right. even i was hearing -- everyone was hearing and trump said it's going to be wild. everyone who can read twitter understood what was coming. great new book. i hope everybody checks it out. it's really, really good. it's called race against time. appreciate you all. and meanwhile the ongoing debate over vaccine booster shots is making your heads spin, you are not alone. straight talk on boosters straight ahead. plus, ever wonder how you can win the popular vote but still lose an election? we'll talk gerrymandering 101 with former u.s. attorney general eric holder. and a texas high school principal placed on administrative leave after being accused of promoting critical race theory. and tonight's absolute work
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an fda advasery committee voted unanimously today in favor of booster shots for americans 65 years old and older. it also includes boosters for those at risk because of their job like health care works. the recommendation covers people who receive the pfizer vaccine. it was the panel's second vote after overwhelmingly rejecting boosters for everyone 16 years and older. member of the committee said they were concerned that there was a lack of safety data about the shots potential effect on younger people. it will now go to the full fda and the cdc for approval. the decision comes at a critical point in the fight as covid continues to ravage states like florida, which this week passed 50,000 covid deaths.
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republican governor ron desantis continues to earn his detractor's nickname death sant s with his freedom strategy, defunding educators over mask mandates and threatening to fine local governments requiring employee vaccination. that move led to a rebuke by president biden. >> the governors of florida, texas are doing everything they can to undermine the lifesaving requirements i've proposed. this is the worst kind of politics because it's putting the lives of citizens of their states especially children at risk. and i refuse to give into it. >> as the president spoke well killer ron was complaining about the decision this week, to take over distribution of monoclonal antibody treatments like regeneron to prevent a shortage. florida like six other states have received 70% of the supplies with florida taking the largest share, and like any petulant child ron isn't happy about sharing. >> the fight about making sure
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florida is not short changed on these monoclonals is front and for us. we're going to fight like hell to make sure our folks get what they need. >> that's rich coming from a guy whose strategy isn't fighting like hell against covid but basically boils down to everybody get sick and then get regeneron. and desantis' largest donor just happens to be a regeneron investor. states who are actually trying to reduce the spread of covid should not get short changed while desantis promotes maximum sickness and then demands the biggest share of the treatment. joining me now is dr. kavita patel, a physician and former obama policy health director. i want to go back to where i started with this decision about the boosters because i along with everyone else have been rendered completely confused on the booster thing. how do you feel about this decision to say boosters for
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immune compromised when before they were saying boosters for everyone. that's what the white house seemed to want. >> yeah, joy, you're right to be confused and many of us in the public health community are confoozed. to ground what you saw today and the committee was really trying to follow the science. i watched and read the data reports. what we know over time all people have decreasing immunity after they receive their shot and that's something we see with other shots as well. and then combined with that we know from israel especially they had a pretty massive national booster campaign actually much more aggressive than we were proposing, anyone 5 months or 12 years and up. incredible almost return to kind of that original immunity you got right after you got those two shots. that's incredible effectiveness.
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they also showed it was safe, but here's where the big gap came and i think some of us including me a bit of a curve ball. they felt there wasn't enough data for under 65 and for especially, joy, the age of 16 to 40. what i'm worried about is it's going to be interpreted, you parsed it out correctly at the top of your entry. i'm a little worried, though, people who are not going to have the ability to understand this are going to hear it's not safe to get a booster shot under the age of 65. that's where i'm very concerned, i'm very troubled. friends of mine who i've talked to, some who work in the administration have also said that they're concerned about how this messaging plays out but then ultimately the president with some very solid footing can say he followed the science. that doesn't mean the public's not confused. >> right. i feel that part of the issue is that i will give the cdc and the fda points for being transparent, but the problem is they're deliberating in public.
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so when the science changed they go oh, here's some new information but we as the public are just zigzagging with them. i think it has left the door open for people like desantis who want to play this game for whatever mad reason maximizing infection in their states and then treating it with regeneron, maybe that has something to do with the donor. i have no idea why he's doing it. but this idea states like now is sort of free because of the confusion to say the answer is just give us regeneron. between his state and all the pro-covid states, meaning the governors are pro covid, alabama, florida, mississippi, georgia, texas, louisiana, they were gobbling up all the regeneron and people like this wacky woman lauren loomer, she comes out and like i'm against getting vaccinated. i want to get covid. i'd love to get covid just to show it's no worse than eating a bad burrito, she said. then she got covid and then she
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said oh, i'm getting regeneron, oh, she's like i'm taking all the weird sort of treatments trump used to push and she's still really sick. so people who are playing that game she's playing are ending up clogging up our icus. >> yeah, joy, they're creating false idols, manipulating data. you've got joe rogan out there talking with great pride about ivermectin and all he could do to avoid quote-unquote this vaccine. during the public commentary you had people who actually had legitimate degrees behind their name manipulate the adverse effect reporting system to make it look like there were all these thousands of deaths from the vaccine. completely false, but it looked like they were reasonable scientists presenting data on powerpoint slides, and it just begs the question do you really -- you know, trust but verify. and when you verify don't do it on social media.
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verify it with people who actually have read peer reviewed articles who actually ask questions, have spirited intellectual debate. and joy, always, always think about your social network and think about not modeling people who actively are running into this disease. i can tell you nobody -- you and have talked about it. it's killing people. it should not kill people. we have a vaccine that prevents death. we're still clocking in hundreds of thousands of debts that don't need to happen and destroying our already broken health care system in the process. >> right, and making it so people who have other issues like a heart attack or stroke or their abendx is bursting can't get in the er. i'm going to play one more person. i'm just going to play her. this is sarah palin. yeah, we know she's not a rocket scientist or neurologist or a doctor, but here she is talking. >> because i do believe in science in the fauciism of the day back then was if you had covid -- i've had corid -- well, then mother nature was creating an immunity.
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and even today they say, you know, you're 27% more immune -- >> 27 times is huge. >> yeah, so i want to ask the questions. >> as dimwitted as that sounded i hear people who i think are pretty smart saying the same thing, well i had covid therefore i'm immune. that's not true, right? >> joy, that's right. and it's sad because, you know, before we had a vaccine we did know, yes, dr. fauci was saying that, yes, if you get covid we know you develop immunity. we don't know exactly for how long. we know it's months, and that is all true, but it's manipulative to just take that part of a sentence and stop there. what needs to be completed with the rest of that sentence, joy, is that we now know if you had covid, yes, you get some immunity, we don't think it lasts as long as get a national infection and on top of the vaccine the vaccines give you a much broader response to protect you against a variant like the
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since 2010 republicans who haven't had much luck winning the increasingly diverse american electorate over with their policies or winning the popular vote have instead gerrymandered their way to power. take for example pennsylvania. in 2018 democratic candidates won 54% of the house popular vote statewide, but they walked away with just 45% of the state
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legislature. why? injure manderring. states are now in the process of redrawing their electoral districts based on last year's census. and there are already troubling signs. the ohio districting commission passed maps heavily favoring super majorities if it survive an expected court challenge. republicans argue they were legally justify in awarding themselves up to 81% of ohio state legislative seats. for context 54% of ohioans are registered republicans while 46% are registered democrats. the math doesn't add up. what does it mean for you? well, the republican advantage in gerrymandering could allow them to solidify control of the u.s. house of representatives and dozens of state legislatures for decades to come over the will of a majority of americans. in short, welcome to minority rule. joining me now is former u.s. attorney general eric holder.
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he's the chairman of the national democratic redistricting committee. thank you so much, general holder for being here. i i guess my big question is what can we do about this? because my fear is under the current rules republicans can solidify minority rule not just in the house but in the state legislatures where they then can do things like pass that texas abortion law and put boupties on women. >> that's certainly the danger. they'll use the power they get from gerrymandering to do the kinds of things you just described, that abortion law, not expand medicaid, all the things wave seen come from republican state legislation has been inconsistent with the desires of the american people. largely come as a result of gerrymandering. so what we have to do is make sure that the process is as transparent as possible, make sure that people around this country are involved in it. go to commission hearings. that's what we're trying to do at the national democratic
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redistricting committee, get people out there. and ultimately we'll end up in court in a lot of places. we're in a better place than we were in 2011 as a result of the work that we've done at the ndrc, you know, the redistricting, the gerrymandering that occurred in 2011 was described by a princeton university study as the worst gerrymandering of the last 50 years. we're in better shape than we were then but still have problems especially in states like texas, north carolina, georgia and florida. those are are the four states that worry me the most. >> do you think that this new law -- there's all these versions of trying to pass federal reform, voting reform. the latest the freedom to vote act. i'm going to put up some of the pieces of it, automatic voter registration, election day holiday, same day registration, preventing state election subversion, federal minimum standards on vote by mail and drop boxes. there's nothing in there directly about gerrymandering.
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is there something the federal government could do to stop this? >> actually joy in the freedom to vote act there is a ban on partisan gerrymandering. there is an explicit ban on party gerrymandering, a strong one that said if you jerry manderred before and this act is passed, it does not matter. you cannot seek a delegation put in place as a result of partisan gerrymandering. that's one more reason why the freedom to vote act has to be passed. it's one more reasons why democrats have to really save our democracy because that's the issue here. we can talk about a specific issue, you know, infrastructure or whatever, but the biggest issue for this country right now is the nature of our system of government. republicans have made themselves quite comfortable with the notion they'll be a minority party to exercise majority power. they are in essence trying to create a political -- political apartide system they'll get fewer votes at every level and
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still have more votes of power. the does contain a specific ban on partisan gerrymandering. >> i don't know if you have joe manchin's phone number but maybe you could convince him to wake up to that. i want to play mitch mcconnell because i think mitch mcconnell is one of the most insidious figures in our modern american economy. here he is skirting through the maze and really explaining their thinking and how their implementing these anti-voter bills in these republican states. take a listen. >> what do all these new laws have in common? none of them, not one is designed to suppress the vote based upon race. so there is no reason for the federal government to take over how we conduct elections. >> on the basis of race he seems very confident that the 6-3 right-wing supreme court will uphold these laws because there's nothing racial written into them directly.
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but there's also nothing racial in how many bubbles are in a bar of soap. they just happen to only ask black people how many bubbles are a in a bar of soap. do you worry that the composition of the supreme court whatever clarence thomas wants to pretend in his speeches, they'll be able to get away with it because they're saying, no, no, this isn't about raise, it's only about making sure this integrity which is just what they used to say in the 1950s. >> they'll say well this isn't racial gerrymandering, this is partisan gerrymandering because the supreme court has said we're not going to entertain partisan jerry manldderring cases in federal court. that makes our task a little more difficult. but it's also clear what they're doing, texas for instance the increase in the population there is largely as a result of increase in the hispanic population the nonwhite population in texas. they get two additional seats rult of that. in order for them to draw lines that are favorable to themselves, they're going to have to racial jerry mander.
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and even this court has shown itself to be surprisingly amenable to bringing racial gerrymandering cases. we were successful to say a decision clarence thomas actually wrote. i have some degree of hope there that a racial gerrymandering case brought before the supreme court could be successful. >> okay, and we know north carolina judge just blocked a voter i.d. law there saying it discriminates against black people there. you were successful in suing a bunch of states when you were attorney general. do you think the current justice department should be more aggressive in terms of going after these states? >> well, they have a limited set of tools now as opposed to the tools i've had when i was there. 2013 supreme court decision really gutted the voting rights act and took away a lot of tools from the justice department. but i'm really confident anita gupta along with merrick garland, christian clark,
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they'll come up with ways they can use remains in the voting rights act to really be aggressive. so i expect they'll be on the front lines in bringing lawsuits where that's appropriate. >> we know the shelby county case is officially called shelby v. holder because we know you were -- >> we never put my name on the shelby county case. >> okay, we're taking your name off of it officially. do you feel as i do especially we don't have a voting rights act in all intents and purposes anymore? >> there are remnants of it that can still be useful, but the reality is we need the freedom to vote act, the john lewis bill. we need to reconstitute the voting rights act so that it is nationwide in scope. you know, the original bill really concentrated on the south, but the reality is we're seeing racial issues with regard to voting not only in the south but also in the midwest, in north east. and so we need a nationwide bill. and the bill that is before the
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congress now would actually re-establish a voting rights act that would be far more substantial than the one the supreme court gutted. and that's why we need to have, you know, the manchin compromise when it comes to the for the people act and also need to have passed the john lewis voting rights advancement act. >> or put it in the constitution and make it permanent. this constant extension of giving people the right to vote -- that's just my take. thank you so much. appreciate you being here. the worst is till ahead as a high ranking texas official says the quiet part out loud like screams it out. but first the high school principal placed on leave after parents accused of him of promoting critical race theory. the school board says that's not the case. we'll hear his story next on reid out. se we'll hear his story next on reid out two desserts! wait... do we have to thank our moms twice?
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version of critical race theory is not just hurting students education it's also impacting peoples livelihoods. in july a man at a texas school board meeting accused principal james whitfield, the school's first enblack principal of promoting critical race theory in what he called the conspiracy of systemic racism. a month later whitfield was suspendedch the school board gave him no reason saying it was an ongoing personnel issue. they later claimed their actions were not made and responsible to their allegations. before he was suspended whitfield responding writing i'm not the critical race theory boogeyman. i'm keenly aware how much fear this strikes in the hearts of a small minority who would much rather things go back to the way they used to be. he said the complaints had been building up since he posted about the death of george floyd. whitfield also noted an incident in 2019 when he was asked to
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take down a photo of him and his wife who happens to be white. i wonder what that issue might be? the district pointed to multiple photos on his page and said they contained poses that are questionable for an educator and saying it had nothing to do with race. whitfield's fate will be determined at a school board meeting on monday night but it's not looking good with the superintendent informing him he would recommend the board vote against renewing his contract. once again giving him no explanation. for what it's worth many of his students have stuck by him staging a walk out to protest his suspension. i'm joined now by james whitfield, principal of colleyville heritage high school and his attorney, david henderson, a civil rights attorney and a former prosecutor who we are quite familiar with on this show. thank you both for being here. principal whitfield, talk to me. it feels like you are being railroaded out of your job on the basis of race both the race
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of -- both george floyd, your sympathy and empathy for a black man who was killed by police, murdered by police as adjudicated and the race of your wife, which sounds to me like what you'd see happening in like 1950 not in 2021. >> yeah, joy, thank you for having us on and just bringing this to light to a greater audience. and it has been shocking the events that have happened since july 26th school board meeting where you had people calling essentially for my job. you know, you had people -- you mention this seems like somewhere far back in time but here we are in 2021. you had people in the gallery yelling fire him. and that behavior was tolerated and allowed. and here's the thing. people want to -- they've got this crt boogeyman that they've created and essentially the people talking about this have no idea what it's about.
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crt is not even -- what they really they're against is essentially who i am as an educator. i'm about creating environments that is responsive and inclusive for all students no matter their race, religion, sexual orientation, you name it. every student that walks through that door, they are my bibbies and i love them. and essentially the people that have a problem with me, they have a problem with that because they are not about having an inclusive environment for students as they're very exclusive in their approach. >> and you're not a teacher. you're the principal, so i'm trying to get to where they're accusing you of teaching critical race theory when you're not a teacher and critical race theory is only taught in law schools and you're not a law school. so were you encouraging teachers to do anti-racism education? what is itthality setoff -- i'm assuming these were white parents. >> well, you know, and safe to
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say that they're parents would be -- i need to qualify this. the people that are causing the issues are not parents of my school. we have a lot of outside agitators as you're seeing all around the country, people that are coming in and trying trying influence school board elections. so i have been promoted in this district, i have been in the district now -- this is going into year four. two of the last three years i have been promoted, and there was no issues with me. you don't promote somebody that you have problems with, that are not doing their job and not loving kids and serving them to the best of their ability. but what happened this past year, you really had the ramp up of crt. just so happened to have the very first african-american principal at this school and it was the quintessential, i was the quintessential boogeyman for these people to attack. you know, the gentleman that spoke against me at that school board meeting, you know, he mentions the conspiracy of systemic racism.
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after the murder of george floyd i did send out a letter to my community because i watched people all over the country come together in ways that i have never seen before in my -- at that time i was 42, right. i put that in my letter. in my 42 years of life i have watched people come together and stand beside each other and denounce racism unapologetically and it inspired me, and i didn't see anybody around me saying anything. i knew there were people in our community that needed to hear that message, and i will send that message out again. today it is posted on my facebook page, but that's one of the things they have a problem with. they don't want to talk about racism. >> yeah. well, that coming together is what has bugged the right so much. you know, david henderson, have have not been laws, anti-misogyny laws on the boom since 1967. can we put up the picture again? it is telling that the outrage
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or criticism of the administration of that school began with this photo, if we can get the photo up of the principal and his wife. it is hard to imagine that photo could be seen as somehow provocative in 2021. this feels like this can't be legal to run someone out of their job based on what feels like on race. >> joy, we intend to make that clear in no uncertain terms. first and foremost, when you talk about critical race theory in texas, you are not talking about critical race theory as you pointed out. our governor signed into law today a new law that says you have to teach that slavery and racism are deviations from american culture. that's the specific word used, deviation. i don't know how you can teach the three-fifths clause from that context, but somehow our governor expects us to figure out how to do that. but here is where it falls into the broader conversation, right.
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the same people that are trying to suppress the right to vote, and kimberly crenshaw said this, people trying to suppress the right to vote, trying to suppress the right to protest are the same people engaged in idea suppression. part of what you have to keep in mind here is when dr. whitfield spoke about the murder of george floyd, in the dallas metroplex we had three similar circumstances that resulted in murder charges for black people being killed, the two cases that have gone to trial resulted in murder convictions. what he saw was a need in his community to address an important issue. if you look at what he said it included messages like hope and support and being the best we can personally and professionally, and rounding it back out to the photo that's what you are supposed to be when you are working with young people. >> absolutely that's right. >> you are supposed to be someone who encourages them, not who plays to hate in the community. >> amen. principal james whitfield, i had a cool principal like you. you are great man. thank you for being here.
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texas lieutenant governor dan patrick is triggered by the haitian migrants seeking asylum and waiting to be processed if del rio. so he went on fox news last night to warn america that the revolution has arrived. >> the revolution has begun. a silent revolution by the democrat party and joe biden to take over this country. you are talking about millions and millions and millions of new voters, and they will thank the democrats and biden for bringing them here. who do you think they're going to vote for? so this is -- this is trying to take over our country without firing a shot. we need every state, every red state because the blue ones won't do it, some send and invoke article 4, section 4, of
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the constitution to tell the president that we are being invaded. >> oh, yes. invaded. not by aliens or a virus, but by the black immigrant boogeyman, of course. they will come, take your jobs and resources, but worse, there are millions of unborn voter babies will one day vote out white america and replace it with nonwhite immigrants who will not vote republican! we see the great replacement theory everywhere these days. it is the new gop creed by folks like tucker and laura ingraham on fox news and more recently the number three house republican, congresswoman elise stefanik. her new facebook campaign ad says radical democrats are planning their most aggressive move yet, a permanent election insurrection and that their plan to grant amnesty to 11 million illegal immigrants will overthrow our current electorate and create a permanent liberal majority in washington. mind you, stefanik before she
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was crowned at liz cheney's replacement once opposed the dear leader's immigration policy. it was before the maga cult got to her and offered her the delicious nectar of power. it is not just the fringe wacky lieutenant governor of the new gilead spewing this bile, it is the house republican leadership and their use of this bait to justify white national radicalism and social unrest is truly the west. that's tonight's "reidout" "all in with chris hayes" now. tonight on "all in." >> there have been some threats of violence associated with the events for tomorrow. >> barricades at the capitol as threats of physical violence helped scare a united states congressman into retiring. >> the truth is the environment is very toxic and especially, you know, the dynamics inside our own party. >> tonight how violence and the threat of violence are undermining american democracy. then making sense of the
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