did interviews with people from st. jude's, spoke with tom cruise, from space. and derrick izanman he is the rich man who wrote a check for all this, and summed up, as they are preparing to return to earth. >> we are proud to share this experience. we are giving all of our time to science research and yuk leleplaying, and join in with us, we will see you soon. trying troraise some good awareness. >> here is what is going to happen. 6:16 p.m., they will start a deorbitting process.

the capsule will do a couple of burns to slow it down, and lose altitude. as they start to interfere with earth's atmosphere, they have to zero to four times their body weight. that is me after a thanksgiving meal. >> as close i get to space travel is space ice cream. i love space ice cream. >> here we go. >> top of the hour, with the horn. >> great to see you. >> if you are sticking with us, thank you. if you are just joining us, welcome. i am here in washington, d.c., covering the capital d.c. rally, a small group of republican

extremists, i was in the thisk it a short while ago. >> a review, the barriers behind the stage. and barriers in front of the capitol building. i was able to talk to the few who gathered, and the organizer, it seemed to -- >> we are asking for our turn, a right to recognize peaceful protest is the way to go. what happened on january 6th should never happen again. it should be organized. and equal justice under law. many who participated that day, are locked up for a very long time. people were swept up, and over charged. >> republicans, to the halls of congress, there is a deafening silence.

to the point where a rising star in the g.o.p., representative gonzalez said he is not running for re-election. his big sin, voting for the former president's impeachment. >> and the republican lawmakers who usually sit inside capitol hill, none attending today's rally. aly, talk about the political experience to this thing. what we are hearing inside the congress, from republicans, on the demonstration today. >> certainly, democrats have been outspoken how concerning a rally like this s on the other

side of this, republicans, mostly mum on this rally. yes, they didn't attend. at the same time this isn't a rally that not attending means a condemnation of. remember what people where i am standing were gathering in sympathy and support for the hundreds of people who stormed this building, they wanted to disrupt congress from satisfying the election results because their guy didn't win. since january 6th, hundreds have been arrested, dozens pled guilty in court. those cases are making their way through the legal system. it will take years for us to see the end of all of these cases around january 6th. still, given all of that republicans, not condemning this kind of a rally, in support of the violence on january 6th, at the same time, not supporting efforts from things like the january 6th select committee to get to the bottom of what happened here, so it cannot

happen again. one of the few exceptionings to that is republican adam kinzinger. >> it is ironic, the rally cry is justice for january 6th, justice would have been impeachment and removal of donald trump, calling out people who are response, i am committed to doing. and lastly, stop as accepting how the ideas of a milittia to over throw the government, that that is okay. >> in this building, there is a lot of partisan fights over policy that is why lawmakers are sent here to debate the final points and come to consensus. within the republican party, there is such a larger more foundational debate about the moral things they will stand

for, regarding the under pinning of democracy. you see gonzalez saying it is not worth the fight and the safety of his family, that is a concerning trend here after january 6th. >> is it we will talk more about that coming up. great to see you. the turn-out for today's rally was much smaller than what was seen on january singsth. extremist groups discouraging people. the "washington post" organizers expected 700 attendees, and then discouraged their followers from showing up, saying the event was a trap. thank you for joining us. so, one of my assessments is, of this whole thing, that capitol

police didn't want to be caught napping on this like on january 6th, they wanted to bring out all the stops no matter what happened, even with the national guard on stand by, to come in if they needed it right. from your assessment, approaching this date, what was the security threat? >> it was clearly chatter. particularly a couple of weeks ago, indicating that proud boys in particular were thinking about coming in large numbers, had been energized by the biden mandate, which seemed to be the end of the line for them. and real concern about being arrested. that this was a set-up. the fbi was setting a trap for them. with conflicting intelligence, the police did the right thing. erred on the side of caution. it worked, on a couple of

levels. dwaded the general population from spending money on train tickets and airplanes, getting in their car, and going to d.c. in large numbers that is a good thing. secondly, for the extremist groups, the fact that they didn't show today, concerned about arrest, this sends a message, we are not going to let this happen again. january 6th is not going to happen again- our watch. we saw, of course, g.o.p. popititions, and elected officials running away from this event with one key exception, that is of course, the former president, who released a statement. i want to be there in mind and spirit, but i am not going. let's get behind the unfairly persecuted group. it is that lie, that notion that caused the rally to exist.

what this means for the future, i think it is something good moving forward for security and radical red rick. >> disinformation, i asked follow-up questions, where did you hear that from? where are you getting this information from? what are you reading? >> they told me the election was a lie, that donald trump is still the president, and black lives matter protesters that attacked the capitol. i said it was not, sir. >> social media has, trying to combat and dispel misinformation. it is what is driving a lot of the narratives. are we doing enough?

>> the short answer is no. i would point to the need for more regulation of social media platforms. we need to listen to the ceos, saying they can't do this by themselves, they need help. congress needs to regulate the folks like a public utility. rate them, review them, for accuracy, do that in we are all in our own echo chambers, people get their news from sources. the notion that people thought that january 6th was peaceful and people are being persecuted unfairly, they are not seeing the facts, they are choosing one source for media. we have to be more savvy that is in the white house strategy, to counter domestic extremism and

terrorism. we need to see that action quickly. >> you see peaceful. from the organizer today, they are acthinking, there were violent people there. large numbers of people who simply wandered around the building peacefully. the facts don't speak to that we have 37 people in the d.c. jail right now. that's it who are being detained because they are a danger. a j a prosecutor said, we can't release them. they are dangerous. 60 people pled guilty. the notion that large numbers of people are held and detained without due process, it is not true. we have to get that through.

>> and listen, i have been protesting for decades, i have been arrested for protesting that is a risk they take when i make the decision to do that when you walk inside the wall, you are not supposed to be there, you can protest. it is part of what is especially and great about being an american, are you taking a risk. there are consequences. >> i think that there is a double standard. if it is my cause, my idea, i want to champion, i have the right to protest. without being arrested. that is not how it goes. the old saying, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. be prepared for the consequences. >> thank you. great to see you. thank you. >> still ahead. booster shots for a few, not for most of americans that is the reformation from an fda panel. we will get the news.

we will gereaction. be right back.

all right, you have a disturbing scene in new york city, the fall-out from those who politicized vaccines in this country, this is what happens at the well known carmine's restaurant, asked people from texas for proof of vaccination. under the cdc guidelines. >> my god!

[ bleep ] you. >> by the way, the three texas visitors were arrested. the hostess treated for injuries. an fda panel delivered a stinging blow to the white house, to get booster shots to all americans, not to overwhelming recommends against boosters to everyone, and over vaccine policy, the u.s. topped 42 million cases of covid a

couple of hours ago. joined by, the dr., give me your reaction to the fda vote? >> well, i think they made the best effort to consider the data. a few things they didn't give adequate attention to, cognitive declines we are seeing, if i were there, i would have pushed my hand to lower the age cut off for recommending the, i would have gone down to 40 or first, rather than 65. i have been saying all along, this will be, when the immunity is going to wayne. we gave the first two so close together, now, the past week, we

have seen two studies out of israel, showing those over the age of 60, clearly benefit and in terms of keeping them out of the hospital or getting sick by a third imization. and the cdc data, reportings showing that pfizer vaccine declines to 77% for hospitalizations that came out the same day as the advisory committee, it is not clear if they considered that or not. i think there will be more discussion with the fda about that 65 is too restrictive. on the other hand, they did create wiggle room. it may come out effectively. >> get into that a bit. a couple of things i want to get into first and foremost. the fda does not have the final

say, do you expect them to rule in line with the cdc? >> we haven't done this in the middle a public health crisis. we were hoping to not be in a crisis by the summer and the fall. but, without people getting vaccinations, there we are. a lot of water will go under the bridge. first, the fda has to look at it internally, to see if they recommend the remations, and then it goes toot cdc, it is hard to predict. >> so, you are talking about, obviously, a certain occupations, underlying conditions, aside from those who have that type of thing. where they have a high risk occupation, over the age of 65. who else.

can you give us hard examination of who else would be eligible for the booster shot? >> that's it, those over the age of 65, and those at-risk health profession says. what those are, unclear. are we talking health care providers, teachers, and exactly what underlying conditions? and again, i think, we really have to put on the table is the long covid, the brain degeneration, studies coming out of oxford, showing that it almost resembles alzheimer's. that needs to be -- >> are we going to get ghidance on under lying conditions that will qualify? certain occupations that will qualify? >> i certainly hope so. otherwise, we will have a lot of chaos, and a lot of confusion. i think that there will be two

options to do that the fda will clarify it, and the cdc advisory committee, practices, will clarify it hopefully, they will do it in a quick timeframe. everybody is wringing their hands at this point. the part of the country that has gotten vaccinated is wringing their hands, the other part of the country is not going to do this anyway. >> and the question from a viewer, some who got two doseses of moderna, over the age of 65, qualifying for the guidelines, will they be waiting for moderna to be green lit before they get the booster? >> it looks like the moderna vaccine, is holding up better than the pfizer in terms of waining immunity. it may not be the same urgency. moderna is putting on the table information about a third shot.

you don't have the data in hand for safety or efficacy of the -- it will likely work. if you have two doses of the moderna vaccine, waiting for the third dose may be prudent. >> thank you, for joining us on this saturday. appreciate it. coming up. donald trump said good riddance to representative gonzalez, who will not be running for re-election. voting to impeach the president on january 6th. what it says about a party who continues to follow a man who lost the popular vote, not once but twice, and may be ready to go for a third. stay with us.

>> welcome back, one of the 10 house republicans who volted to impeach president trump in january, decided to retire.

anthony gonzalez decided he will retiebreakers rather than running against a trump-backed candidate. he said it was because calling trump a cancer for the country. the former president elated to hear the news, saying, one down, nine to go. some are you not unhappy with trump's policy, marsh reluctantly changed his status to democratic. >> national chair of the serve america movement, and contributor. and former obama white house office of community affairs. david. starting with you on this one. you hear the stories.

what does it tell you about the republican party first, could we expect an exit out of gonzalez, of the nine other house members who voted to empeach donald trump? >> certainly, an exit or defeat. i don't think there is any real surprise in the gonzalez move. it is an affirmation about today's republican party, it is a data point. this is not a party that donald trump is gone, raced back to mitt romney, and jeb bush. it is doubling down with abbott. and desantis. there is no room for gonzalez and others, the real shame is that party continues to turn this corner father toward this angry trumpism devoid of ideology. but the talent we are losing. gonzalez was an up and coming leader. liz cheney, love her or hate

her, she is, these are people that are likely on their way out, as a result of trump trying to make additional room for the crackpots, to be blunt about it. i don't think it is a surprise, where do all of these former republicans ultimately end up? it is likely not with the democrats today. >> so, elaina, i want us to take a listen to representative gonzalez on wkyc on friday. talking about the reasoning for his exit. >> the truth s the environment is toxic. especially, the dynamics inside our own party. which have stopped making sense to me in a lot of ways. we just seem to have lost the anlt to dialogue, reason and do

it in a way that is limited partnerful and thoughtful inside of politics. >> some argue, why not stay and fight? why chose to not run again? why not try to change the course that you see this party headed in? >> well, you have to be sympathetic to representative gonzalez. he has a family. voters in support of trump, and trump opposition in the primary, those voters are tightly gripped by trump e, tremism, and the lies about the threat of covid 19, and the delta variant. and the masks, he is dealing with constituents that think that trump should be the leader of the party. in part, he has to do his own

gut check, and determine for himself whether or not it is safe for him to run. once he is there, he is working in a department so splintered and divided. the real question is, his race would have been a test case for someone who is a moderate conservative, with how he could have stood up to a trump-endorsed republican in the primary. we are left wondering, what power does trump have for all of these endorsements, up to bolster up his supporters and to i call them bully endorsements, trying to punish those who oppose trump, and those who say that 2020 outcome was rigged. we are trying to see what is the

weight and the strength of trump's endorsement? the question s what are the democrats going to do, not just for federal elections, what about local elections, when he is endorsing this kauftic officials, for secretary of state, and attorney general. the citizens attorney, endorsing those who would say that the election is false, and the outcome was rigged. >> it could have been a litmus test. what could be another run in 2024. i have to read this poll to you, i think it is fascinating, i would love your take on it how important is believing that trump won the 2020 election in

being what a republican means to you. >> 59% saying very or somewhat important. 40%, not at all important. what do you make of this? >> the power of leadership can be effective. we know that is a false narrative it is a false narrative create and affirmed and spread by our elected leaders. it largely can be the fault in trufth our leaders, if they are saying partisan persuasion, a false narrative that trump and his allies have share and spread. i think the tough thing is, this goes with the gonzalez race. we got our answer, he is not running because he knew he would lose. the position that gonzalez and others are n as elected leaders or a young emerging candidate,

you have to empower the constituency that believes the falsehoods, fnt, you can't win. >> the g.o.p. ruled over by trump, it isn't worth the fight, roughly, half republicans have or will have left the chamber by 2023. that can grow, if more incumbents retire this cycle. is this not an opportunity to seize on a power grab? >> i think that it is an opportunity for democrats to leverage the moderates, the extreme mists who would be those who trump is endorsing, and consider themselves trumpists, this is an opportunity for democrats, it is not going to

bea profesy, it requires, that democrats make sure there is a house and a home for everyone. even the moderate republican. >> thank you both, great to see you. up next, a peek into the future of space tourism. if the company plans to charge $50 million a pop. it will ohm be enjoyed by the super rich. major general charles bolden. major general charles bolden. when we come back.nes of unlimid

for only $27.50 a line. that's half the price of verizon or at&t. only at t-mobile. the leader in 5g. in a little more than two hours, another milestone in space, spacex, with the first

civilian orbital crew, 7:00 eastern, off the coast of florida. i am joined by retired astronaut major general bolden. there is an image of the four astronauts, civilians, i could say, you can call them astronauts. >> i call them astronauts. >> there is the image. >> observe they exit the earth's orbit. that is what they will be seeing. to see the earth from that vantage point. >> it is incredible to be there, and you know, this is terribly -- makes me homesick this is almost the view that we had on the flight that we deployed the hubble space

telescope. 6 hrnd kill meters, you almost get to see the whole blue marble. not quite. but more than any other space mission. the international space station, they are still above the international space station. 365 miles now. they are getting breath taking images. >> how are they going to feel as re-entry begins for them? >> they will still be floating as it beginnings, it is an hour-long reentry. you know, they will -- their arms will be up. books will be floating. takes an half hour to get back to the atmosphere. not until then, they start to come down throughout atmosphere, the vehicle starts to experience drag. dig in. over a period of the next half hour, they notice that their arms are slowly starting to come

down, books are slowly starting to come down. all of a sudden, i am heavier than i was a few minutes ago. when they get to about a quarter of a g, their hands will be on the consoles, they will have to think to think to lift their hands. your brain will tell your hand to lift up, it won't move. you lost that connection between your brain and muscles. they will do exercises, by the time they land, they will be semi-recovered. they will be really heavy in the latter part of the entry. a couple of gorillas sitting on their shoulders. >> i love that you said you feel homesick. >> i do. >> space is home. you logged 700 hours up there. >> well, i didn't have a lot of

time. 700 hours seems like a lot. today t our crew members are there six months in space. our astronaut will stay another six months, he will have lived in space for a year in one flight. that is spectacular. i would love to spend six months up there. my wife would probably have something to say about that. >> last thing, general. there is a lot of history being made with this flight. all civilian crew, the first black woman to pilot a spacecraft, and the first to go to space with a prosthetic leg. history-making moment. >> it is. yes, for a number of reasons. i am happy and proud for her to be a pilot on this crew. the fact that she is just only

the fourth black woman to go to space. and granted she is the first to be a pilot on a civilian vehicle, we have you know, we have done some things before, we need to get better about our diversity and inclusion when it comes to space flight. incredible mission. hailey, the fact that she is a prosthetic wearer, says loads for those who have disabilities. we are going through a lot of soul searching to find out how much disability can we take to space? i happen to be one, you don't need your legs when you go to space. they only get you this in trouble. are you looking for places to stabilize yourself. we have a lot of learning to do. this crew is setting, i think they are setting the bar high for us. we will have to go some to go.

>> there are a lot of little girls at home. >> yes. there is always. thank you very much. >> my head scratcher of the week to nikki manage. and the woman behind the dress. designer aurora james about the met gala dress. that she crafted, and the backlash. >> instead of saying, it was

brave. >> it is a fundraiser for the metropolitan museum. you know. those are the people ultimately, that are in that room who have access to resources, and they need to start thinking about how to redistribute some of those resources. support the communities hit the hardest. the interview all ahead.

most awarded for network quality, 27 times in a row. proving once again that nobody builds networks like verizon. that's why we're building 5g right, that's why there's only one best network. look good. feel good. play good. gillette proglide, five blades and a pivoting flexball to get virtually every hair on the first stroke. look good, game good. gillette. trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high, you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel. ♪ ♪ it's a new dawn... ♪ if you've been taking copd sitting down, it's time to make a stand.

start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. it also helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. take a stand and start a new day with trelegy. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy. and save at trelegy.com.

[tv announcer] come on down to our appliance superstore where we've got the best deals on refrigerators, microwaves, gas ranges and grills. and if you're looking for...

>> welcome back, my head scratcher of the week, the claims from questioning whether to get a vaccine. minaj shared a graphic story about her cousin's friend in trinidad who claimed to get the vaccine and became impotent despite dr. anthony fauci knocking down the claim and there's no evidence it causes fertility problems in men and women and there's no records of the case that minaj says happened. it didn't stop her from doubling down and her fans from taking up her mantle in tweets of their own, even protesting at the cdc. while many have attacked minaj, dr. you jay blackstock wrote an op-ed today urging a different

approach. rather than calling her out, they write they were calling her in, noting with how with education on the issue, minaj could become a powerful voice in urging vaccines. let's hope for that. so my high five of the week, who would have guessed it, dan quail, hero of the republicans. a report that mike pence turned to the former vice president while he was being pressured by donald trump to abdicate his duty as vice president and refused to certify joe biden's 2020 election win. at odds with some of the claims by pence supporters in the book, the vice president is portrayed as a man desperate to find a way to do trump's bidding, but quail, perhaps best known before this for misspelling the word "potato" as george h.w. bush's vice president was firm that he absolutely couldn't refuse to certify the election. it within his power as vice president and he needed to stick with his duties, which is ultimately what happened.

for that, dan quail gets the coveted high five of the week. we'll be right back. ♪♪ it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win. with voltaren arthritis pain gel my husband's got his moves back. an alternative to pain pills voltaren is the first full prescription strength gel for powerful arthritis pain relief... voltaren the joy of movement are you tired of clean clothes that just don't smell clean? downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters keep your laundry smelling fresh way longer than detergent alone. if you want laundry to smell fresh for weeks, make sure you have downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters. what happens when we welcome change? we can transform our workforce overnight out of convenience, or necessity. we can explore uncharted waters,

and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change-- meeting them where they are, and getting them where they want to be. faster. vmware. welcome change. liberty mutual customizes car insurance so you only pay for what you need. how much money can liberty mutual save you? one! two! three! four! five! 72,807! 72,808... dollars. yep... everything hurts. only pay for what you need.

♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ [swords clashing] - had enough? - no... arthritis. here. new aspercreme arthritis. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme. an amusement park is like whooping cough, it's not just for kids. whooping cough is highly contagious for people of any age. and it can cause violent uncontrollable coughing fits. ask your doctor or pharmacist about whooping cough vaccination because it's not just for kids. different dif

because i'm a full trumper. i ride the trump train. i believe he got messed over in the election. i believe he's still the president. and i believe he'll be president before biden gets out of. >> who was you don't think any of them should've been prosecuted or arrested or

helped? >> no. they did stupid things. you can agree that this is stupid. but it doesn't mean they shouldn't be treated unhumanly. >> those are some of the pro-insurrectionists rallygoers at the capitol. the event attracted relatively sparse crowds and a heavy police presence. capitol police tweeting a short time ago that 400 to 450 people were inside the protest area today. that is excluding law enforcement, of course, and media. my colleague and friend ayman mohyeldin will be covering it on his brand-new show. later this evening he's bringing his talent to prime time weekends here on msnbc with ayman set to debut not to at 8:00 p.m. he's joining me now to talk about what we can expect. ayman, so good to see you. listen, i tweeted out, if people were itching for a reunion for the two of us, this was it. this was going to be the moment the two of us were going to be

on tv together. >> here we are back together on the weekends. >> i'm giving you an air pump. >> me too. >> i'm so psyched for you, my friend, and your show ahead tonight. >> thank you. >> what can with expect? what are you going to be talking about? >> yeah. i mean, listen we're going to have a lot of the same conversations you've been seeing throughout the day. we'll have more time to talk about it. we have with us representative jamie raskin, who obviously have been front and center ever since january 6th and the subsequent impeachment and what this means in terms of a national security risk with clint watts. we're going to break it all down with all kinds of guests throughout the two hours we're on today. we'll try to make sense of it. it was funny hearing that one guy who said he expects president trump to become president again before biden leaves office. seems like a bit of a contradiction there, but then,

again, you were out there, so you saw first hand what it was all about. >> yeah. i think i saw a lot of contractions out there. i can't help but think as i was talking to these people, how is it we all watched the same thing? how did we all sit there and me on the ground covering it, watching it, anchoring it, whatever it is you were doing on that day on january 6th, and your takeaway from this was people were peacefully protesting. they walked in there, they didn't really know what they were doing, they didn't know it was breaking the law. whereas what we saw was people storming the capitol, breaking windows, as we see in this video, breaking down doors, calling for the life of speaker pelosi and the vice president. >> and let's not forget attacking the members of the capitol police. so let's not pretend that of all the people that were there, these guys were just going for a stroll inside the capitol to watch democracy unfold. no.

they most importantly had very specific objective. they had a clear intent to stop the certification process. when you have that intent coupled by the fact that you are breaking police lines, you are defying police orders and smashing windows, attacking members of the police force, you clearly were violating the law. you were not there as some have suggested to be a tourist or as others have said, to peacefully protest. sure, there may have been protest who at the beginning when the rally was taking place hundreds of feet away from the capitol peacefully there, but once that transition from a rally onto a march, ultimately to an insurrection, that's when everything goes out the window. this is no longer a peaceful demonstration, whether or not you are the person breaking the glass or walking in there to try and stop the certification process. >> just a glimpse of what you'll get on "ayman" tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern. i'm so proud and pumped for you. >> thank you so much.

>> you better. >> on saturday nights you're going to be free for us, right? >> always free. don't call. don't call. ayman", 8:00 p.m. eastern tonight. by the way, the graphics, look at that. so cool. thank you, ayman. good to see you. good luck tonight. make sure you tune in, by the way, to this interview with democratic congressman jamie raskin where they'll dive into today's protests in washington, d.c.. that wraps it up for me. i'm yasmin vossoughian. i'll be back tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. eastern in new york. "politicsnation" with the rev starts right now. good evening and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, no remorse. right now i cannot stress the depth of the white privilege that was on