tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC September 19, 2021 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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welcome, everybody. good afternoon. i'm yasmin vossoughian. we have a lot to cover. breaking news out of texas. a military aircraft crashing into homes in a resident sh area. we will have the latest on that. new developments in the case of a missing woman and the now vanished fiancee as a person of interest in the case. a crucial week about to begin on capitol hill with a shutdown looming over the size and scope of the reconciliation bill. all sides making the case today. fallout from the much smaller than expected capitol hill rally. what the turnout says about the extremist movement in the gop. next hour, an extraordinary act of civil disobediences and the facts of restrictive
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abortion bill in texas. >> that is why on the morning of september 6 i provided an abortion to a woman who though still in her first trimester was beyond the state's new limit. >> a doctor going public there with his challenge to the texas law daring anti-abortion rights to sue him. we'll have much more on that. major conversation top of the 4:00 hour. we do want to begin with that breaking news out of the north texas where a military aircraft crashed into lakewort police held a press conference. two people did eject from the aircraft and one of them was seriously injured after becoming tangled up in power lines. also saying three homes are quote heavily damaged. take a look at this picture of this badly mangled plane that
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appears to have crashed and landed right into the backyard of someone's house. joining me now by the phone joseph fagle, emergency management specialist. can't imagine if you watch this come barrelling towards you. who knows what type of people were inside the homes? and their condition as of late. how do you begin to unpack this? >> it requires a very careful look. you have marvelous service people in that county. i have helped train some of them and they get on the scene and size it up. they look to see north, south, east and west, up and down. and the first thing to do is effect rescue in the safest way possible. >> we heard a bit of a press
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conference a little while. want to play for you some of that. >> fortunately nobody was injured, no resident was injured. the two pilots have been transported to the hospital. this incident could have been much worse. >> obviously we are getting information that nobody was harmed in the home. one of the pilots is in critical condition. this thing could have been so much worse. considering the scope of the crash. >> absolutely. you have to look at the skill of the pilots who most likely brought it down in a clear space knowing how they are trained so they see a problem, they know the they'll have an issue but pilots are trained to do the level best to avoid populated
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areas. that's inbred. ingrained in them. by one foot one inch another miles per hour it could have been so much more worse. it is marvelous that all we have minor injuries but sadly when one pilot hit the power lines we have no idea what that outcome will be. >> yeah. so we'll stay on this. if there's any developments we'll bring it to you. michael, thank you as always for joining on for us. 50 law enforcement officers searching a florida wildfire center for a person of interest in the disappearance of gabby petito. she vanished on a trip with laundrie. now there's ground surveys of the grand teton park to search for signs of the missing woman.
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dennis, thank you for joining us on this. talk first about a time line. how much are investigators learning about last known location of gabby? >> i assume they have got a lot of information. this is sort of -- we are in a new era of social media where whereabouts can be tracked by video and photo and this couple was using social media to sort of broadcast their whereabouts so i think in a way this case is unique in that there's a lot of information for investigators. >> you talk about social media. right? i believe the hash tag gabby petito has been retweeted 300 million times. tiktok, as well, really taken off. there are a lot of theories thrown out there as to what exactly has happened to this
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young woman. the parents obviously in a ton of hurt as they wait for any answers that they can get. does this help or hurt the case? >> i think that the investigators have expressed some frustration with the sort of amount of speculation and attention this case has received. you have josh taylor, the spokesman for north port, the city's police department is the lead investigator on the case. he came out and straight up said that it is sort of frustrating while they attempt to get into this investigation their they have to deal with media attention and people in the community protesting sort of gerting in the face of police and sort of being outside the family home for -- and sort of questioning their every move while they try to get into the
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details of the case. >> just last question to you. what do we know about the body cam footage of these two evenings of gabby and her boyfriend and when they were talked to by police? >> there was a couple who said that -- are you speaking of the couple saying they picked up mr. laundrie august 25th? from the police? so there was a situation where police responded to a possible domestic incident between the couple, and authorities pointed out that he actually had some marks on his face that appeared to indicate that she had struck him somehow. they didn't act on it. they didn't arrest anyone. or even really detain them for long. >> all right. dennis romero, thank you. we appreciate it. want to get to a high stakes
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week in congress. democrats racing to avoid a government shutdown. after advancing the critical $3 ant 5 trillion reconciliation plan this week. house democrats staring down a voting on infrastructure bill. aly vitale is on it for us on capitol hill. let's talk reconciliation first. what are the biggest caveats here first for the reconciliation draft? and what happens if it fails? >> reporter: look. i think the overaveraging message is the summer break is over. lawmakers will be back in washington tomorrow and you autolined the tall order to contend with here. reconciliation chief among them. this is the president and democrats' top legislative priorities? this is the chance to move forward on issues that are
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structural overhauls of the american system they feel needs to happen now in the midst and the aftermath of the pandemic. what we have seen is a mark-up period where they sort of started filling in a lot of the details behind what could go into a $5.5 trillion plan. it comes against the backdrop where negotiations of if that's going to be the number are going to be taking place. you see on the screen right there the trillion dollars in physical infrastructure passed the senate. that is going to be voted on likely in the house around september 27 but that 3.5 trillion on the other side of the screen i'm not sure if in a few days we refer to it that way because all that's clear when you hear from moderates and joe manchin and others out there who feel that this price tag is one they're not comfortable with. they feel it's too high but
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senator bernie sanders is speaking in the name of progressives feeling it's too small. listen to him this morning. >> right now we got 50 votes. we are going to have to work it out as we did with the american rescue plan. i have already made and my colleagues made a major compromise from 6 billion to 3.5 trillion. >> reporter: these sunday mornings are jand setting mornings. people laying out the red lines in terms of negotiations in congress. we saw congressman manchin feeling that 3.5 trillion is too high and sanders continuing to say he doesn't want to go lower than that. the thing that sticks in my mind from several weeks is in a press conference with chuck schumer who balked on the idea of 3.5 trillion. he turned the focus in that meeting to saying that as long
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as it includes priorities of climate change that that's the bill that he would hope to organize democrats behind. we don't know what that bill is exactly going to look like. going to be a big week of negotiating here. >> it seems like in a way schumer's going to have to talk sanders off the ledge rather than manchin. go ahead. >> reporter: the reality is in the senate especially are that every senator can be the person that has to be talked off the ledge sort to speak talking legislatively and seen manchin do so far and same time i think some people who are waiting to see if bernie sanders becomes that person in these negotiations. >> yeah. exactly. ali, great reporting. appreciate it. we'll dive deeper into the reconciliation bill. stick with us. representative dan kildee will join me for that conversation.
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there are new questions today about the right wing extremist movement in this country. what the modest turnout at yesterday's capitol hill rally could mean and questions a few republicans are raising today about trump loyalty and will mean for the party in next year's midterms. here's "meet the press" this morning. >> do you think at this time with where the party is choosing to go with donald trump that's a losing strategy for the midterms? >> if we relitigate the past we lose. we have got to speak about the future. again, our country is looking for something which brings back
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the prosperity of pre-pandemic. if we speak about that we win. >> nbc's jonathan allen questions this in the article about the small crowd we witnessed at the capitol yesterday and joining me now. great to see you. good to run into you yesterday. as well. outside that rally. let's talk about the state of the republican party right now. you had this really low turnout, pathetic yesterday coming to this rally. a couple hundred folks and half of which i think is probably media. senator cassidy saying if we relate gait the past we'll lose the midterms. gonzalez not running for re-election because he doesn't want to be a republican anymore it seems. where is the republican party right now? >> donald trump still has a death grip on it and even though there's a low turnout yesterday for this rally president trump warned people that it might be a
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setup for them to be arrested. and so when you look at the republican party it is politically unsafe, untenable. not only to challenge donald trump but to say that he's done anything wrong 'we see that with the retirement of congressman gonzalez that voted to impeach him this year. senator cassidy suffered the slings and arrows. you saw him in that clip on "meet the press." there are some voices in the republican party, loud voices saying that donald trump isn't the way to go but the majority of republican voters are still strong supporters of trump and people at the rally on the hill critical of him thought he did a good job and in favor of trumpism as a political doctrine. >> not only are they still in favor of trump, conspiracy
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theorists, extremism inside the republican party believing things that did not happen. is also alive and well. you wrote about that in your piece and i got that in an interview. i did, as well. first you write smith said she expected a better turnout and has a low opinion of members in both parties in congress. she said if a bomb dropped on the building i would celebrate. take a listen to an interview i did. >> we condemn those that engaged in violence but individuals who did not -- simply in the wrong place at the wrong time are being unjustly persecuted. >> who was? >> vast majority of the hundreds of people arrested and not charged with violence. >> storming the capitol. >> that's a characteristic. many cases they walked through a door held open by a capitol
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police officer. >> it is still astouning to say that storming is my characteristic. if they like to think that the conspiracy theorists dissipated a bit with distance from the trump presidency it is not true. >> no. it absolutely is not true. the thing that continues is this big lie. right? that somehow president trump was robbed of re-election when obviously the facts are in the other direction. he lost election fairly and you see the organizer of that event talking to you about people who are in the wrong place at the wrong time. they were in the u.s. capitol building as part of -- describe it as storming, a riot, insurrection. a violent attempt to take over the capitol in order to stop the
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votes from beg counted and those are the facts and the republican party, the majority of the republican party is unwilling to believe the facts or accept them for political reasons and until that changes i think that's a party that's going to be in turmoil. >> he actually went on to say that he felt as if people walked into the capitol unknowingly kind of not knowing that they were breaking the new walking in looking around thinking this is a beautiful place. i literally could not believe what i was hearing and wrote about it in the run to talk about in the 4:00 p.m. hour. thank you as always. great to see you. thank you for jumping on for us. someone not following online new hampshire state representative marsh. just switched affiliation over the anti-vax stance and i'll talk to him later on this hour.
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welcome back. so as kids across this country are returning to school, districts have the heated debates about efforts to vaccinate those that are 12 years and over but in san francisco 90% of the key age group is already vaccinated. health officials say insuring this group get it is vaccine is key to keeping schools open there. scott cohn is live in san francisco. good to see you this afternoon. these numbers are astounding in san francisco considering the vaccination rates amongst younger folks 12 and up. how's it faring?
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>> reporter: clearly it is doing well. you saw that by the numbers. san francisco has been a little more amenable to these kinds of things than other places in the country to say the least. so this is the idea of trying to get this key age group 12 to 17s vaccinated and we can see this is one of several vaccination clinics across the city. that's a 12-year-old girl, just turned 12 and wasting no time getting her vaccination. let's look at the numbers again. across the country 56% of 12 to 17-year-olds received one dose. that's not where most officials want it to be and look again at the california numbers. where you have 53% fully vaccinated but here in san francisco that impressive number of 90%. it is different when you look at other states. the bottom states are the
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wyoming, louisiana, mississippi. officials say information is key. basically what they say is they have tried to communicate to not only just the community members but making the kinds of clinics accessible. never more than five-minute walk they say from a vaccination clinic in san francisco. also trying to get the word to practitioners, pediatricians and doctors and that's the next phase and hope to use this drive as a dry run for when the vaccination is approved for kids younger so they're preparing for that. 90% they say is great but 10% that they look to get vaccinated here in san francisco. >> that is a great number.
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i'm sure parent's minds at ease with that vaccination in arm. scott, thank you for that coverage. you got the fda advisory panel rejecting a proposal to recommend booster shots for most americans. we continue to hear from doctors that an additional shot is going to be necessary at some point. dr. fauci was on "meet the press" this morning saying that very thing. >> ultimately, the real proper regimen will turn out to be the original two shots plus a boost. but you want to do that according to what the data tells you including the risk benefit ratio particularly for the younger people who do not generally get as much severe disease as the elderly and others. >> joining me now to talk about this is dr. patel. let's clear things up on this whole thing. i was texting you with the
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information from this vote. i think a lot of folks are confused about why the fda would make a decision like this considering what we are houring. i had dr. hotez on yesterday and i imagine you feel the same way hat third shot is inevitable. why wait? >> great question. by the way, the text we had is reflective of the country's confusion. did the advisory panel say only people over 65 need the booster? yes. but they did not say that people under 65 should never get it and that's the part that's super confusing. dr. hotez, dr. fauci, myself, many of us agree. we will need a booster why the question is, is there enough evidence for people under 65 to get it?
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i disagree with the committee advisory. there's compelling evidence but they wanted to keep it clean. 65 and older is no-brainer but every american should be thinking when did i get my second dose? some americans are due that won't qualify in that category outlined friday but the cdc will weigh in on this. >> i wanted to kind of play how this might kind of i guess play out or talk through how it might play out and what i mean is if there's not enough evidence now does that mean the fda is waiting for more evidence and then revisit this issue in three or six month's time? >> i think it is sooner and i hope we don't wait for
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breakthrough infections. the agency needs to put out the official guidance. the cdc meets wednesday. i suspect the official guidance will match what we heard friday and might not. to your point, yasmin, what they wait for is actually some of the 16 and above data to be collected from the united states trials and then israel is where we received a number of data points. friday was an extensive review of israeli data and they are implementing a booster for everyone over 12 from five months from the second dose so that data is also going to come in. i don't think they wait for breakthrough infections. that feels to me too late and what we need is more data to dr. fauci's point are there risks of a 16-year-old getting a boost
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six moths from the second dose? i think the evidence is sufficient to say probably not but clearly they want stronger evidence so that's what we look for to make sure that it's safe. >> there's some people get the booster shot just the atlantic is calling them booster bandits. what do you make of this? getting a booster shot before this decision came down from the fda? from what i remember back in august they were giving the green loogt for folks over 75 and immuno compromised to get that booster shot. >> your memory serves you well. they recommended it certainly. it was a third dose an ento think the series. think of an immuno compromised as not fully vaccinated without that third dose and people above 75, 85, considered frame also fitting in that category. and that's again one of the many
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reasons this is confusing. why should people -- a shot is a shot. why are we making the distinctions? there is very sufficient evidence again that you're safe to get the booster six moths from the second dose but we can't give it to you without the clearance. here's the danger. patients say why can't i get it? avoid getting it too early because we want the protection to last evenly as long as possible. six months from now needing something else because the immunity is decreasing and then facing a surge and having no data and trying to find a fourth dose? that's irresponsible of me to recommend and of them to get. >> got it.
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thank you as always for clearing things up for us back to the breaking news story out of texas. navy jet trainer aircraft that crashed? players say two people did eject from the aircraft and one seriously injured and at least three homes are heavily damaged. you can see the mangled plane appears to have krarned into the backyard of plane. katelyn was on the ground watching this thing come down. katelyn, thank you for talking to us about this. what did you see? >> i was in my backyard feeding my dog, and i heard -- normal in the neighborhood beside the army base and i look up because it's really loud and so close to my house so i just bent down like
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over my dog not thinking to go inside or anything. i seen them eject from the plane. and i felt it crash and made me want to fall over from the impact and thought both the neighbors. i'm not sure which house it hit at first but both neighbors are elderly. i ran out and banging on the door. they thought a car crashed into the house and trying to explain to them. it was an airplane in the backyard and you have to leave the house because it could explode. >> wow. >> stuff that happens and they with respect leaving. i had to scoop them up and grab them out and take them outside. and then the house behind us, i had -- do what? >> no. i said go ahead. keep going. >> the house behind that house was also another paralyzed old lady and got a strong man to
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help me get her out also. so we were just basically focused on getting people out of their houses the whole time. >> wow. that's astounding that you were -- amazing that you were able to save the people. knowing that plane crashed in the backyard. how close were you to this crash? how close was your house to this crash? >> right next door. >> measuring it by a football field? right next door? >> my neighbor. i was in the backyard. if the plane was 50 feet closer to be me it wouchb right on top of me. >> did you see debris or parts of the plane near you after it crashed? >> many in my backyard and then the seat ejected it is also in front of my house left a big like chunk of concrete missing from the street and the seat is
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in front of my house. >> were you alone at home? >> i was all alone. my parents were at church. when it hit the power lines the power went out. the internet went out. i wasn't able to call. i was just freaking out so i just decided to go outside where everyone else was and help get everyone out. >> are you still home now? >> actually no. i walked over to my manager's so i can have phone service to do the call. >> how thick was the smoke coming from that crash? >> oh man. our whole entire street smelled like gasoline and jet fuel and it was just black smoke everywhere. thankfully the old lady's house didn't hit her house but it did hit in her backyard and the
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shed. the house didn't have much smoke in it but the house next to hers did and crashed into the corner of their house. crashed and split into the house. >> did you see any of the pilots ejecting from the plane before it crashed? the pilot and the co-pilot who i believe was a student at naval aviator ejected from the crash before it touched the ground. >> yeah. i seen him eject and got tangled in the power leans and the other one i seen him eject but i didn't see him land. i was told he landed on 199. in the highway. because the highway is very close to our house. >> did the power -- did the guy who got tangled in the power lines seem like he was okay? did he seem injured? did he seem like he was moving
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when he got tangled up? >> he was alive but he was getting burnt. he caught fire and air lifted. >> oh my god. >> he got air lifted. they were both alive and in very critical condition. >> yeah. we do know that one is in critical condition right now. the other one is in stable condition and updating folks on the conditions as the thing develops. thank you for talking to us. wow. i'm happy you're safe. >> no problem. >> i'm happy that you were in the neighborhood and got your neighbors out safely. it seems like you were a very big help. your parents must be very proud. thank you so much. we appreciate it. thank you. >> no problem. >> we'll be right back.
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welcome back. history may not be kind to george w. bush's presidency but he is somewhat transformed in the public eye as a resistance hero. if it's possible for him, could it be possible for others? it is the focus of this week's spotlight adds my next guest eyes the former and current allies of donald trump. >> it does seem like history is not going to be kind to -- but a lot of bush people sort of managed to be rehabilitated into he sis tans heroes. do you think this will happen with trump people? do you think it's just, they're too toxic. do you see a kellyanne come to jesus moment? >> after turning off the "american idol" fans she is coming to the end -- the expiration date. we see trump's surgeon general
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is appearing as an authority on covid on cnn and you just want to go, no. he was there when everybody was dying. why would we want to hear this man? so do i think it's possible? i think some of the higher profile people will never make the past the borders of fox news or one america or news max. but i think we'll see some of those people that got out. >> joining me now is molly jonafast. molly, thank you for joining us. we can't swear on msnbc like we can on your podcast. >> thank you. >> just some fair warning. >> i'm aware. >> i wish i could come on but i feel like i would be in trouble coming on your podcast. that aside, how did you get into
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the pfizer trial for the vaccine? >> i just signed up everywhere i could and just hounded all the doctors i knew and finally found a friend that taught at yale saying we have added on a little tiny pfizer trial if you email this person because they're december pratt to fill it you can maybe get in and i emailed a woman saying i'll do whatever. i'll be in new haven tomorrow. i went further than anyone. i went two hours back and forth to get two placebo shots and a regular shot and i did get in there. >> how early was that? what month? >> yeah. i got my placebos in september and october and then real shot in january and february. >> wow. amazing. okay. let's talk about the podcast. i heard that in the podcast and
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thought i need to ask her about this. even during the trump presidency there was this conversation happening where folks were like i wish george w. bush was in the white house ian people scratching the heads thinking never thought i would say that but we are in the midst of the trump presidency and don't necessarily feel as if kellyanne con way can have the same outcome. could she jump ship from the trump camp? >> i don't think she can and i don't think she wants to. she's very much maga. i don't think she has the same kind of conscience that normal people have. i don't know her but that's my sense. i have never seen her apologize. even with george w. bush and i am not endorsing george w. bush. i thought he was just about the
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stupidest president i had seen but trump did top him but with george w. bush when he gave that speech and wasn't long he did say there was this sort of sense in which he kind of knew that he should have spoken sooner but there was a sense that i don't know that he put together that he is part of how we got to trump but there's certainly a slight amount of culpability where i think a lot of trump advisers are total sociopaths. >> all right. something else to cover which you have covered and that is the abortion law in texas. you talked about it in the podcast. let's take a little bit of a listen to what you guys said. >> i have a friend who's a friend of jessie's too in new mexico telling me that they're
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prepared to tape a lot of the abortions that they plan to take 15-hour bus rides to albuquerque. >> yeah. the gross term is abortion tourism although this isn't tourism but desperation. there are legal aid funds working to provide travel funds so pregnant people that need abortions can travel out of state. >> molly, i keep thinking back to that scene in "dirty dancing" where patrick swayze's dance partner went to get an abortion and then the father had to save her life essentially going to an underground clinic and feels that this law places women in the desperate situations trying to keep abortions because by the way they didn't know they were pregnant before six weeks. >> 100%. i have read reporting that women
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are driving to colorado, to new mexico. these blue states that are surrounding texas trying to pick up the slack but you have to remember 95% of the women don't know they're pregnant at six weeks so that means -- and in austin 2 out of 3 abortion clinics have closed and seen a chilling effect. that's the goal of the law to prevent abortions. it was a really great essay in "the new york times" by an abortion doctor or a gynecologist talking about how he had practiced in 1973 and had been in a hospital when women had come in with rags and bleeding to death and had a patient die of accept sis. i think young people don't understand people don't stop having abortions.
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>> right. i want to read for folks before you go your op-ed for "the daily beast" about this. you write this. they're coming for your uterus. these justices want to have it both ways to serve the republican agenda and overturn roe and maintaining what's left of the court's reputation for transcending ideology. thank you for joining us. on this sunday afternoon. i'm honored to have you on the show. good podcast. listen in, tune in. new abnormal. beware. they did not hold back. thank you. new episodes dropping every single week. a new hampshire state representative switched parties over the handling of the coronavirus. the past week the nbc affiliate reported william marsh is a democrat due to the state's anti-vaccination stance. he is joining me now to talk about this. thank you so much for joining us
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on this. with that i want to read your statement that you released in switching parties. i have come to realize a majority of republicans both locally and in the new hampshire household values which do not reflect traditional republican values and recognizing the reality that today's republican party is no longer the party i first joined when campaigning for president reagan many years ago. what was the final straw for you? >> thank you for having me this afternoon. this is building for a long time. i have tried my hardest to work from the inside but the new hampshire republican party is taken over by the libber tyronn extremists that don't recognize that to live in a civilized society we have to give up liberty to just get along. >> you have gotten some pushback
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from switching parties. and your vaccination philosophy that you have been tweeting about. how's that been dealing with that? >> most of the people have been pretty positive. i have gotten some pushback. not a lot from the people in the party because they basically stopped talking to me. this rally that you speak of was the last straw. they undermined the work of the reopening task force opening the economy and the schools and controlling new hampshire's covid. they want to take away more restrictions. >> let's talk about what you can actually get done and change as a democrat now. you are a retired physician and said that health is a top priority. cases up 16% from last week in your state. what can you do as a democrat to change things? >> we need to change the politics in the state of new
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hampshire ji got a lot done last year as a republican. we strengthened the new hampshire public health laws. we need to get the people to use all the tools we have available to us. vaccines are very important. we need to maintain the release of vaccines. it is a slow crawl at this point in time and the leadership in the house turned down $27 million for distributing vaccines in the state. makes no sense in the middle of a pandemic. but vaccines aren't the only tool. they're not effective in and of themselves. my daughter at college had an outbreak with 99% of the children vaccinated and had an outbreak with 6% case rate on campus and had to go remote for a week and my daughter's back in school and i'm happy about that. we need to encourage masks.
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the kids in the schools aren't vaccinated yet. that makes no sense but that's what's happening. ventilation is important. we have good guidance to implement that in places and most importantly we need to get the government to stop harassing people who are trying to do the right thing. myself and senator sherman meeting in the governor's office on monday to deal with the fact that our attorney general's harassing a venue in derri for a reasonable covid policy. there's no basis in law for that harassment. >> so last question here before you go and that is we are seeing a trend here. you announcing that you're switching parties. heard from congressman gonzalez saying he is not running for re-election because he feels the republican party let him down. do you think this is the beginning of a trend that we will see more and more amongst
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republicans considering the climate? >> i hope so. i talked to legislators considering changing parties because they no longer have a voice and people without competence are put in charge of things. doesn't make sense to them. it is a really hard thing to decide to change your party. it is like changing your church or getting divorced why this is your identity for a long time. it is not a decision to be taken lightly and may know it is the right thing and drag your feet because you hate doing it so much but you have to live with yourself. i'm hoping other people follow with me. but if they don't i feel good about what i did. >> state representative marsh now as a democrat rather than that republican. thank you. we'll be right back. right back. the history she writes in her clear blue skies.
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