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limit. >> what that public revelation in the papers of "the washington post" means for the fight over the law and for that doctor personally. that discussion coming up in a moment. also this hour, how much are progressive democrats willing do give up in the reconciliation bill to make senator manchin happy? >> we are 50 votes. we have to work it out as we did with the american rescue plan but i have made and my colleagues have made a major compromise going from 6 trillion don to 3.5 trillion. >> will talk to democratic congressman kildee and the reaction to this weekend's anemic capitol hill rally by extremists. also coming up, aoc and provocation. the dress that set off debate on both sides of the aisle this week. we are going to did inwith the texas abortion law and one doctor who has stepped forward to say he violated the law with

a duty of care to his patient. in a stunning op-ed in "the washington post" dr. braid a physician who provides abortion care in san antonio admits to per fortunatelying an abortion on a woman passed the six-week mark in the pregnancy and now illegal based on the new law. take a listen to the doctor challenging anti-abortion groups to sue him. >> on the morning of september 6, i provided an abortion to a woman who, though still in her first trimester, was beyond the state's new limit. i acted because i had the duty of care to this patient as i do for all patients, and because she has a fundamental right to receive this care. i fully understood that there could be legal consequences, but i wanted to make sure that texas didn't get away with its bid to

prevent this unconstitutional law from being tested in court. i understand that providing an abortion beyond the new legal limit i am taking a personal risk but it's something i believe in strongly. represented by the center for reproductive rights my clinics are wrong the plaintiffs in an ongoing federal lawsuit to stop sb 8. i have daughters, granddaughters, and nieces. i believe abortion is an essential part of health care. i have spent the past 50 years treating and helping participates. i just can't sit back and watch us return to 1972. >> all right. let's talk and this. wendy davis, former texas state senator is joining us and mark

herrin for center for reproductive rights. mark i want to kind of understand the legal challenges ahead at this point if he has any for dr. braid. >> sure. so there's several cases pending right now. there's the federal lawsuit that's currently pending in court of appeals where the supreme court denied an injunction. justice department filed a lawsuit but this law is in effect for two weeks. over 85% of patients in texas are toned away from exercising the constitutional rights and travel hundreds of miles to go outside the state. clinics in oh states are jam packed with patients from texas. there's a clinic in kansas where half of the patients coming from texas now. the doctor took a courageous act to provide care. he had a duty of care to the

patient and provided protected health care and we'll see whether he faces any legal consequences as a result. >> at this point just to be clear i want to understand this accurately. he faces no legal consequences. nobody approached him for suing him for providing this abortion care? >> right. so his op-ed was published a matter of hours ago and we will see what happens once the courts open i guess on monday to -- been sued under the new law just yet but if he does the center for reproductive rights stands ready to defend him and litigation brought against him under the new law that's blatantly unconstitutional and

defies the supreme court precedent. the entire time he's been a practicing ob/gyn. >> let's talk about the kind of courage it took for the doctor to perform this abortion under this new law, for stepping out and do what he believes is the right thing to do. and knowing the challenges that could lie ahead for him. >> it's an incredibly courageous act he took and talks in the editorial about his residency back in 1972 before roe v. wade became the law of the land and in his single year of residency seeing three teenagers die trying to perform abortions on themselves. he understands of course that's exactly where texas is now headed. there are many people for whom

who cannot travel. she has four children, three under the age of 12 and told him you might as well offer me a free jet ride. i couldn't go to another state because i cannot leave the children and work and we are hearing the stories over and over across the state. last week i talked to the head of planned parenthood greater trks trks telling me about a sexual assault victim they had to turn away. a mother of six who also like the patient that the doctor treated said she simply could not leave the state and going to carry a seventh pregnancy to term and distraught having a hard time taking care of the children that she already has. >> it's an interesting one because you have anti-abortion groups in texas relatively

silent. calling the op-ed -- this is exactly the type of thing that could challenge this texas law and have it subsequently overturned because it is not constitutional. >> that is exactly right. we are in this terrible stalemate because the u.s. supreme court and the 5th circuit denied the relief to stop this law while it's constitutionality is tested and clinics are complying with the law. many closed down completely for fear of frivolous lawsuits so the anti-abortion groups are having the best of all worlds right now. their shutt down abortion and not filed a single suit and expressed today they'll not sure they'll sue the doctor. it just demonstrates why the supreme court's actions and the

5th circuit's actions are a denial of the constitutional right to access abortion and clearly that access has been denied now in texas regardless of whether a suit is filed. and i can only hope that there will be more doctors out there, the center of reproductive rights is doing a wonderful job defending him. words not deeds.com we raise money for fines and any opposing attorney's fees that people will have to pay and it is going to take a unified effort like this and more courageous doctors like him to push this law, this unconstitutional law and get it overturned. >> thank you both. appreciate it. now host of your political play list podcast.

aenlg sir michael singleton as well, contributor to "the boston globe." i want to start with what i was talking about. with regards to this texas abortion law and the courage it took for this doctor to step out and perform this abortion despite the fact in texas it is illegal to give an abortion after sick weeks of pregnancy and seems as if right this doctor in a way whether he wanted to or not called these abortion groups' bluff by saying i will do the abortion and see if you move ahead with suing me. and it leaves this law in somewhat of a gray area. >> calling the anti-abortion groups' bluff is exactly what the doctor did. the law crafted in a way that made it difficult to challenge in court and he went right for

it and with his own name. the anti-abortion force in the united states is so strong and self contained this conversation will probably get clipped and end up with feedback from it. they obsess and go back and back and the fact he put the name out there and attached himself to it he knows what he is getting himself into and it's quite braver and i think showing women in texas not only doctors out there that are still some degree willing to take that risk and have their interest on their side. planned parenthood is getting calls and calls from women in the state who are saying i don't understand. i'm just confused. the biggest question on the planned parenthood site is how far along can i get an abortion? women are confused. >> i want to read from slate on the republican silence on the

ban. the gop's reaction in texas ban is silence. punk waited by laws about the law itself. the most obvious answer is that republicans are the dog that caught the car, fearful of the ramifications of their own victory. your reaction? >> yeah. i think nationally i don't know if this is exactly what the republican national committee would want to focus on. i think if you look at all statistical analysis and data at this point it appears that at least as early on republicans seem to be in a good spot to regain control of the house. the last thing that any strategist would want is to risk ginning up energy on the other side which can make that task of regaining control of the house tougher by virtue of what you see in texas and nationally i think probably waiting to see what the circuit court is going to do. some ways the supreme court honestly doesn't want to get involved with this at all.

so i think the republican party again nationally is in a quagmire and the state party may enjoy this thing but i don't think they're looking at the overall impact to have on republicans' odds to regain control of the house and maybe even the senate for that matter. >> two things. what makes you think that the supreme court doesn't want to be involved? it seems to be sent that way. because to challenge the law it could go all the way up if not beyond the texas supreme court to the federal supreme court. to the supreme court itself. to overturn the texas law, a. why not speak out? if this isn't the narrative for the party come the midterms why not speak up? >> look. i don't think they want to take the risk of angering a very important part of the republican base and that's evangelicals. that's been a part of republican voters for 40, 50 years now so i

understand politically electorally why they are silent. we can debate whether that's right or not. that's a different conversation. as it pertains to the supreme court i think chief justice roberts specifically but likely not to have to deal with this at that level. there's others and conservative justices that i think would love an opportunity to rule in some manner on this case and i think the question becomes does the supreme court side with texas completely or say maybe we'll lessen how late a woman can have an abortion. i think the jury is out on that question pertaining to how the court will decide but from the chief justice perspective he has almost been very clear in many ways and legal zo lars have stated this on his unwillingness to get into these state and political issues and so i really think in some ways he may have lost control of the court at least by virtue of the recent

decision that we saw from the conservatives in the court and then you saw again the chief justice's silence saying i don't think this is the right decision. we should not get involved in this. from the conservative, republican side i get why the state may be enjoying this. there's a lot of risk here electorally that could really energize people on the left that cause republicans to not be able to regain control of the house which is the goal in 2022 ultimately. >> emily, last word to you. >> yeah. i agree with him on the politics but not just democrats enraged by this. mothers. women that swung the house elections, swung the 2020 presidential election and women and mothers are mad. we are tired of the last year and a half of having to homeschool children not knowing if he can go back to school and

having regular child care. the kids are back in school and quarantined and it is a mess and if all we remember about the republican party is in this moment is anti-abortion obsessed and passed a law that's unrealistic for most women for the sole goal of passing through some very extreme law that is ideological. women are going to remember that because it's insulting and come for the ballot box in 2022 and remember the party focused on getting policies like paid leave like the democrats and anti-abortion obsessed. >> emily, sir michael, thank you both. the aoc dress that got the reaction that she wanted triggering the snowflakes on the right. there is a week until the self prescribed deadline for the democrats to reach a deal on the reconciliation bill and per usual the demands are standing

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welcome back. so following months of back and forth house democrats advance the $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill legislation. now it will be married with the

senate's version. but while president biden expressed confidence that congress will send the measure to his desk democratic senators manchin and sinema pushed back at the legislation's price tag. warning they won't agree on a bill of that size. senator bernie sanders earlier today who envisioned a $6 trillion spending bill said that he is unwilling to scale down further to win their support. >> all i am telling you is that $3.5 trillion is much too low. a compromise is made and agreement has been made. >> joining me is congressman dan kildee of michigan, chief democratic whip. you all are in a pickle coming to this reconciliation bill. the american public is also in a bit of a pickle considering folks are waiting on the things to help them and then infrastructure when you have

highways, roads, bridges crumbling across this country shut down causing more problems. that being said, how realistic are democrats right now in washington? how are they looking at this thing? it seems that joe manchin will not move. had a conversation with the president. he said i won't budge. he got senator sanders saying i won't budge and it seems like the only person that is going to have to approve the bill is joe manchin. how will you work this? >> that's the big question. i think the one thing that senator manchin recognizes is that we can't leave town without doing anything. the issues that we are trying to take on it is not about the size of this package, not the $3.5 trillion but what's in it. paid family leave.

lifting children out of poverty. it is diminishing greenhouse gases to get the hands around the climate issue supporting the electrification of automobiles. paying the fair share when they do well. there is not a good option having us do nothing. whether senator manchin or sanders we have to realize whatever the boldest common denominator is we had better take action. none should get credit for what we were for. only thing to get credit for is what we deliver. that i realize that won't be everything i want. but we have to take some action and if we do that as democrats perhaps then we are rewarded with continuing majorities and can build from the momentum but it is not good enough just to have a noble defeat and explain what we would have done if we

could have persuaded one another to hold hands and jump. we have to take action. >> i want to read between the lines essentially. what you are saying, what i'm hearing you say is to negotiate down to exactly what we need for this reconciliation and it seems as if it's closer to manchin's idea than bernie sanders' because if we say we are not moving then nothing will get done. >> that's very likely what we'll end up. 3.5 trillion we know despite the fact -- is the top line. we may have to accept something less than that. what's not acceptable is doing nothing and right now the people in washington who win if we get into a standoff are the republicans in the house especially who are committed to doing nothing at all. the one thing we can say they're committed to is not doing the

infrastructure bill, not doing the build back better act, doing whatever they can to try to make democrats look bad. i think it's a mistake to fall into the trap of rewarding republicans for not being at the table by not figuring out a way to compromise in one another and come up with the biggest, boldest plan to get us 50 votes in the senate, 218 votes in the house and president biden's signature. whatever that number is is the number to get to sooner rather than later. >> all right. congressman kildee, we wish you luck and us, as well. federal agents on the hunt for a person of interest in the case of missing 22-year-old d-back by petito. they were together and only he came home. the latest in the case and the search for answers is next.

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welcome back. we are continuing to follow breaking news where a navy jet trainer plane crashed into a neighborhood during a training flight. officers saying two people ejected from the plane. one is seriously injured after being tangled in power line just both are treated at a nearby hospital. here's what an eyewitness told me a short time ago. >> both neighbors are both elderly so i ran out into the front yard. was banging on the door. they thought a car crashed into the house and i was trying to explain to them that it was an airplane in the backyard and you have to leave you house because it could explode. >> did the guy tangled in the power lines seem okay? seem injured? did he seem like he was moving when he was tangled up?

>> he was alive but he was getting burned. he caught fire. >> oh my god. >> he was air lifted out. >> all right. so we'll continue to monitor that. also following the disapeernts of the 22-year-old gabby petito who vanished with brian laundrie. he returned home alone then disappeared last week and considered a person of interest in gabby's disappearance. they have called in kauai nine units and drones to search for laundrie in a florida wildlife reserve. emily, what more can you tell us about the search here? any updates at this hour? >> reporter: investigators warn that this search for brian laundrie could be a lengthy one up against treacherous conditions. they believe he is in a

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needs help. >> reporter: the fbi on the ground of grand teton national park searching the area for gabby. the fbi asking anyone specifically camping on the eastern border of the park august 27th and the 30th to bring forward information if they saw them or the van. back to you. >> all right. thank you as the president is preparing to speak before the u.n. general assembly on tuesday the administration is balancing challenges on the world stage. chief among them the administration's admission that an air strike that targeted the wrong vehicle killed a civilian and seven children and france is recalling the ambassador over a security partnership with the white house. joining us is nbc's mike memoli.

good to see you. how much is the white house weighing the challenges ahead of the president's speech? >> reporter: yasmin, this week is shaping up to be a test of president biden's personal diplomacy. he says all politics is personal, even on the world stage. if you think back to covering him on the first trip aboard it was like pushing on an open door saying i'm not donald trump, america is back, and got the warmest reception from the world leaders but this week given the challenges since then particularly the messy draw down in afghanistan, the drone strike on friday and the clear example of the chaos of that withdrawal, but also, some of these challenges involves a closest ally of france. this president is using the personal diplomacy to try to repair the rifts that emerged why if you look at the way the

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welcome back. congresswoman ocasio-cortez is known for garnering attention and her appearance at the met gala is no different. she wore a floor length white gown with the words tax the rich emblazoned in bright red on the back to the famous event which charges $35,000 a ticket and is full of hollywood's biggest and wealthiest stars. the political statement garnered strong reactions of course from across the political spectrum and some labeling her a hypocrite and an op-ed said it is better seen as showcasing the political style and writes she's sought to stake out an ambiguous political position that involving keeping a foot firmly inside the system and one outside of it.

makes her vulnerable to complaints of selling out and to cries of hypocrisy from mostly bad faith, critics on the right. joining me is ze sha aleem. thank you for joining us. let's talk about this. >> thank you for having me. >> expand on aoc's political strategy and how it may not have necessarily worked for her here. >> yeah. so i mean aoc really is masterful when it comes to using social media and public stunts as an activist platform. but in this case it didn't really seem to land. i think the intentions were pretty reasonable, wanted to bring attention to the slogan of tax to rich and how to finance progressive social spending.

which the reconciliation bill has enhanced health care and i think that in this situation it sort of backfired and at least for some people on the left and again some people on the right although maybe they were being a little bit -- i don't necessarily take their krit civils as seriously in this situation but i think part of the optics ended up some landing -- she came across as more participatory than critical in these appearances at a gala next to billionaires and massive -- just said that hollywood celebrities and may come down to the chicness of the dress or has a lot of celebrity and star power and sense appeared to blend in than be at odds with it and aren't always predictable. i think the intentions -- i highly doubt she intended that

to happen. and this whole -- maybe she showed up in a rumpled pant suit or something maybe would have looked different and of course it's rationalized and bernie sanders has a different sort of aura in terms of optics and showcases the sort of broader challenges of her political style of being an insider outsider. sort of of the establishment and picking away at the party and caucusing with them and vulnerable to claims of being a sellout and just comes with the territory to try to stake out. >> first, i wonder if it's our fault the message is falling flat because we talk about the dress and not the message. people don't talk about the fact that the rich need to be taxed more aside from her and the folks inside the democratic party and progressive wing and

we talk about the dress than the message. >> yeah. it's sort of complex. it was sort of a subject of debate for hours and really days ultimately and then of course becomes self fulfilling when people talk about and then the media involves themselves and a weird kind of pardon me if you hear the siren outside, the sort of vicious feedback cycle and that realm but the very controversy and cysted and organic on social media looking at the people that follow her i don't think it was entirely bad faith and people on the left from the kind of activist scene

she comes from and a sign that it didn't really land the way she expected it to and we are reconsidering what works and doesn't when you do these sort of things. >> do you think she cares? >> i do think she cares. the reason i think she cares is because she released a very defensive sort of story on the instagram account sort of explaining at length why she did what she did and how she felt the criticisms were unfair and then suggesting that she was overwhelmed by the response and i suspect because i don't think she would be as affected by attacks from the right because they are looking for any opportunity to try to hammer her. wears a nice outfit and say how could she possibly be a socialist. but when people from the left saying it and people who

probably share her views i suspect it would probably sort of hit her harder. again i think some criticisms raised -- i don't necessarily agree with them. i think some reaction is overheated. but it event of great consequence, but it did raise really interesting questions about what it means to be able to subvert things in a performtive way. all activism is on some level, performtive. but those performances, in certain situations can, you know, can be anti-authoritarian, and make you look kind of politically toothless. >> yeah, thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. it was good to have you. >> thanks for having me. so it is hard to fathom just somehow nurse who is see firsthand how deadly this covid pandemic actually is could oppose a vaccine that has been scientifically proven to prevent against severe illness and death. but yes, it is happening. it is happening across every

state in this country and the decision to mandate the shot seems to be making the decision even worse. my next guest sat down with some nurses in louisiana, a state with one of the highest infection rates and lowest vaccination records, who say they will be fired before they get the covid shot, citing everything from personal freedom to conspiracy theories. joining me now is journalist drew hawkins. drew, thanks for joining us on this. conspiracy theories being first and foremost, because i want to read for you from your piece, so folks can really understand, get a scope of what's going on here. and you write this, pam and stacy, another nurse who works in her clinic who also says that she plans to refuse to get vaccinated say they believed contrary to evidence, that the vaccines had not been fully vetted or studied. pam, who described herself as anti-abortion and anti-mask also believes the johnson & johnson vaccine contains aborted human fetal cells despite this claim

having been debunked. it's amazing to think that these women are nurses and are choosing not to get this vaccine, thing that could protect them from subsequently dying if they contract covid. what more did you see in reporting this piece? >> thanks for having me, yasmin. so wherever the fda approved the pfizer vaccine, the largest health system in louisiana came out with a requirement to have all staff vaccinated by october 29th. which prompted a few nurses who were part of the system, the largest system in the state, to say that they'd be be willing to quit their jobs rather than get the vaccine. another interesting thing that i thought was particularly troubling was that many nurses began maybe looking for facilities, because not every facility [ inaudible ] require the vaccine, so they began seeking employment at health systems that weren't requiring it. and some of them at pediatric clinics, with children being unable to receive the vaccine

was especially troubling to me. when i first started reporting this, it was before the white house came out and, you know, with the mandate, requiring all health systems that receive medicaid or medicare reimbursement, which is almost all health systems in louisiana, not quite, but almost, but even still, despite that mandate, some health systems in the state still haven't fully decided or haven't made it a requirement to be vaccinated, as of this date. >> so when push comes to shove, you got 27% of health care workers at this point who have not been vaccinated. you've got mandates in place. many of these folks will likely lose their job if they don't get the vaccine. when push comes to shove, do you think they're going to get it? >> well, a health expert that i spoke to said, no, day don't believe that's actually what's going to happen. and one of the examples they point to is the city of new orleans back in august, they implemented a mandatory vaccine for pretty much any indoor activity, so gyms, bars, dining,

restaurants, and some employers had expressed that they were worried that employees would walk off the job and quit. and what they saw was by and large, they all ended up getting vaccinated. so vaccine mandates do appear to work. so when push comes to shove, i don't think that many of the nurses will actually stick to their conviction to choose termination over vaccination. >> drew hawkins, thanks for your reporting. all right. i spoke to a lot of people over the last few days who still believe that the 2020 election was stolen, who were combative with me and about who i reported for and quote/unquote my facts, as they put it. and confident in believing that all of the conspiracy-laden media they would been reading or watching was correct. one man even going so far as to say that it was antifa and blm that started the storming of the capitol. it wasn't, by the way. as much as i told him, sir, you're wrong, i was there, he didn't believe me.

and in fact, he just -- it just made him more angry. there was also something else that stood out to me about my reporting over the last couple of days. a conversation i had with medinah benjamin of code pink. she was at the rally making sure the rallygoers saw her sign that read, j6 insurrectionists should be jailed. she said, i have protested my whole life. i have been arrested for protesting. i understood that risk and these people should understand that risk when they stormed the capitol. you cannot say you didn't know what you were doing when you were walking into the halls of capitol as people broke through the doors. you cannot say you were an innocent bystander as you did that. i saw those innocent bystanders. there were a lot of people on january 6th who showed up to protest the results of the election, but when they saw what was happening, they stood back in shock and they left. those people knew it was wrong. the people that charged the capitol also knew what they were doing. but as much as you'd like to

think the divisiveness has slowed or quieted, that maybe others now understand president biden is the president, it hasn't and they don't. and it may never, and they may never acknowledge biden as president. and not only are they still here despite the poor showing yesterday at that rally, justice for j6, as they were calling it, it could just take another trump or the same trump to mobilize and inspire once again sending us back to 2016. that is the reality right now in this country. that wraps up the hour for me. i'm yasmin vassoughian. i'll be back here next saturday and sunday, 3:00 p.m. eastern. i'll turn it over right now to reverend al sharpton and "politics nation" after a very quick break. arpton and "politics nation" after a very quick break. nience, or necessity. we can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change--

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