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"seinfeld" is nostalgic even though they weren't raised on t that is an element that is happening. something they didn't live through. you know, television we take comfort in it and then it kind of cycles back into our own lives again. >> what is old is new. thank you so much. the series is "how our tv obsession shapes how we eat, dress, travel and live." men's fashion editor of off duty at the "wall street journal," jacob gallagher, thank you for being with us. absolutely fascinating. that does it for this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. ♪♪ hi there, i'm stephanie ruhle, live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. it is monday, september 20th and we start with breaking news. pfizer just coming out this morning announcing its covid vaccine is safe for children between 5 and 11 years old. can you hear the enthusiasm in
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my voice? that is huge for parents and for kids who are going back to school and pfizer is hopeful the vaccine will be available very soon. >> we intend to submit the data by the end of the month and then, of course, it will be up to the fda to review that data and determine whether the screen can be released for broad use. we hope that that will go expeditiously. >> and this pfizer news comes amid new questions about booster shots. remember, it was this week the biden administration said they would start giving boosters to everyone, but now an fda panel has put the brakes on that idea and the question now is what do we do next? i want to dig deeper into all of this and bring in cnbc's senior health and science reporter meg tirrell, nbc's gabe gutierrez in spokane, washington, and dr. kavita patel former policy director of the obama white house. meg, give us the school on the pfizer vaccine. you can hear how excited i am. what is the timeline for when we can actually get our kids these
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shots because sign me up. >> yeah, the date that a lot of people are talking about right now is halloween, but that all depends on how quickly pfizer gets that application in and they said they plan to start doing that by the end of this month and then how long the fda takes to review it. there have been differing reports about how long that could be from as short as three weeks which would be really fast to perhaps four to six weeks. we will just have to see how long all of that deliberation takes, but scott gottlieb who is on the board of pfizer, former fda commissioner this morning on cnbc was saying end of october, early november could be what we are looking at for down to age five. for parents of even younger kids like me we are waiting for more data and that's supposed to come in within a month or so. >> halloween, my favorite holiday. dr. patel, what do you think? >> look, i think that just the fact that we have this signal that it's safe, stephanie, is incredible. watch to see if this prompts some physicians to do what we've talked about, off label vaccine prescribing. it's not a different
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formulation, it's just a reduced dose, a third of the dose of what we're administering to adults. you can imagine there's going to be a lot of pressure, but i do think it's safe to say that we will definitely have vaccines in arms for the age group by the holiday season including thanksgiving and christmas, which will be pretty critical, i think, to signal that this pandemic is nearing an end, especially for the united states. >> this is major news. meg, let's talk about the boosters because it was back in mid-august president biden was making this big deal saying every adult would be eligible to get the booster shot starting today. now that's not the case so i have a two-parter. why was the administration putting out this plan when it wasn't fully approved, and, b, are there now a ton of shots ready that are going to go wasted, booster shots i mean? >> well, the booster shots are the exact same shots for pfizer anyway as the original vaccines and so as long as they are not getting too close to their expiration dates, hopefully we are not going to see a whole
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lost of waste because of this delay. there was a lot of criticism of the administration for putting out this statement and essentially putting the cart before the horse before the regulators and the fda and cdc's advisory committees could really weigh in. what we saw is that it was supposed to be both pfizer and moderna broadly available this week for boosters. it turned out it was just the pfizer booster that was ready to be evaluated by the fda and then the advisory committee really only said we have enough data to feel comfortable recommending this for people over 65, those who are at high risk of severe outcomes from covid and then they also added people who are at high risk of exposure to covid because of their jobs like health care workers. we still need to see the fda officially rule on that booster dose and wednesday and thursday cdc's advisers will meet to make those clinical recommendations. it's a lot narrower than the administration originally foresaw for this week. >> doctor, we talk about this almost every day. misinformation and mixed messages are a really big problem. explain to us, you have the fda commissioner saying a booster is needed, then an fda panel saying
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it's not needed. i'm your average civilian, i have no idea what the difference is between the two, a panel, the commissioner, what are we talking about here? >> yeah, stephanie, it's very confusing, by the way, even most physicians and public health professionals are confused after last friday's advisory committee. what we are talking about here is literally this, that the advisory committee and scientists actually more broadly, stephanie, agree that there is not enough compelling data for the under 65 age group. we can talk about where they came up with the age of 65 because technically the data is really around 60 and under that there's not enough data to show that you really need that booster. not that it's harmful, but that we just need more data. we have plenty of data both from israel and as well as growing data in the united states and the uk that 60 and above really do merit an additional booster dose. this is what we see in other vaccines. layered on top of that, stephanie, i can't help but add that there is also this global
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inequity commentary, wasn't given by the advisory committee, but it's hanging out there that these are doses that we really don't need that we still have adequate protection against death, hospitalization and to the finer point i think there's a criticism that we've raised americans' expectations that this vaccine will prevent all infection. that was never the original intention of the covid vaccines, but it's now become an expectation, stephanie. we are all kind of feeling hostage because we don't want to get infected when the message we need to send with the commissioner, the cdc director, what everybody should be reinforcing is the current vaccines even a month later protect you against death and severe hospitalization. those are deaths that have been preventable and unfortunately the unvaccinated succumb to that. >> we have dad, a whole lot of data, but data is just a bunch of numbers. what we need are our trusted professionals to interpret them and advise uniformly. gabe, take us to washington because where you are cases have actually been down but just next door to the east in idaho we know cases are up.
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so in washington they are turning down patients from out of state. that's not normal. >> reporter: yeah, stephanie, it's a dire situation here in eastern washington because of what you just mentioned. yes, in idaho the situation is growing increasingly more difficult so they're having to send a lot of those patients over the border, over the state line here to washington, but this hospital here in spokane says that it's having trouble keeping up because there's just not enough bed space. just a short time this weekend, just a 12-hour period, three patients died in this icu. it's not a huge hospital, stephanie, and so what's happening, they're having to turn down about two-thirds of the patient transfer requests from out of state. we spoke to some of the health care workers about that. take a listen. >> with this pandemic saying no to people or not having space for them is incredibly difficult and taxing on us emotionally, physically, you know, people are
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picking up massive amounts of overtime just to support what we have and to not be able to have beds available for those patients who need it outside is very difficult. >> reporter: and this is by far they say the worst that they have seen in this entire pandemic. stephanie, that news from pfizer very significant for parents across the country because also this growing number of schools are shutting down in-person classes because of new outbreaks in some parts of the country and, again, here in the northwest. it's not just idaho, but also hospitals that we have spoken with in montana, for example, they're also starting to discuss the possibility of crisis standards of care, essentially rationing care. many hospitals aren't to that point yet, but even the fact that we are having this discussion a year and a half into the pandemic is surprising many health care workers in this part of the country. >> a year and a half into the pandemic while we have vaccines readily available to everyone ages 12 and above. dr. patel, gabe gutierrez, meg
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tirrell, thank you all so much for talking about crossing the border state to state. now let's go to the actual southern border, del rio, texas, where the united states has started the very long, slow process of deporting thousands and thousands of haitian refugees who are camped out under a bridge just inside the border. later today the head of homeland security will get a briefing there. morgan, what is the scene like? are these thousands of haitians coming following that quake last month? >> reporter: there are different answers to that question, did he have. i can tell you this is a dynamic situation that has changed drastically over the last 48 hours. if you ask border patrol they will tell you some of this may stem back to that 2010 earthquake in haiti which sent many people im grating to south america and following the 2016 olympics they started that long
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process north. what's happening right here, right now, the only border crossing into mexico and del rio remains closed down and it is a 24/7 mission. we are just on the side of the border fence and we are seeing agency after agency drive through this gate, manned by the national security. this is just part of the massive response we've seen from authorities here in response to a group that essentially tripled in size in just a matter of days. go back to last wednesday, the group beneath that bridge about 5,000 strong, at last check over the weekend, 15,000 people were essentially calling the shade of this border bridge home. the goal right now, trying to process every single one of those people, some of those bused to nearby processing facilities that are not overwhelmed, others being flown on what they're calling lateral flights to do that same thing and then we've already confirmed over the weekend that those first deportation flights have already begun, three of which
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took off from san antonio to port-au-prince, haiti, but there are still so many people, that whole group that flew back, about 300, we still have at least 10,000 haitian migrants beneath this bridge. we were granted exclusive access yesterday, had a chance to speak to one woman, she said she had been under that bridge for eight days, had barely eaten a thing. we had seen food and water handouts there set up by the border patrol, but the supplies cannot come fast enough right now to try to take care of these people. just minutes before we spoke to you there was an ambulance here outside, a woman from a border patrol vehicle was transferred into and taken away and unfortunately that has been an all too common sight here. steph. >> holy cow, tripled in size in a matter of days. julia, two-parter. how long is this deportation going to take and how do you know it's not going to get worse or just keep happening? it's not like the situation is getting better in haiti. >> that's exactly true. stephanie, we understand that those flights are expected to
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start ramping up, there were three yesterday as morgan said, we expect to see 6 to 8 a day starting tomorrow, but those flights really only take about 130 to 150 people. so it could take a long time. another thing they're doing is taking some people from under the bridge and transferring them what they call on lateral flights which just go to other sectors of the u.s. border where those people can be processed. essentially, stephanie, the border patrol is overwhelmed here and they cannot process 15,000 people in one place in a safe, orderly and humane manner, which is the biden administration's mantra for their immigration policy. that river you see there, that has by and large been blocked. we understand that there are texas state troopers who are keeping people from crossing. they're also diverting traffic to another sector or another part of the del rio sector. they're trying to do as much as they can to block this area, but could it come again? very well that could happen. especially when you see policies kind of get bent and the messages get changed by these
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cartels to tell people that if the biden administration says it's safe for some haitians to stay, well, then now is your chance and everyone should come. that's the kind of thing that they are dealing with now. as many people come, as morgan points out, not just from haiti itself but also people who have left haiti, been in other countries for years and are now coming to the united states because the situation both with covid and the economy have gotten so dire and the countries they were living in before. now you see families getting off the planes, many of them going back to a country that they haven't lived in for years, that they have very few connections to, very few resources in, stephanie. >> how about the message from our vice president, where is she? she was supposed to be in charge of all of these migration issues, going to those northern triangle countries that's obviously not haiti, that was one of her first international trips with the message do not come here illegally. people aren't listening. what is she saying now? >> well, we haven't heard a lot from the vice president. of course, you point out she was focused on those northern triangle countries, a lot of her
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work was in guatemala working with that government. a lot of the diplomacy which was what the vice president was focused on was with mexico. essentially what we're seeing now is a break down of that work with mexico. mexico for a while was stopping a lot of migration coming from guatemala into mexico, keeping people from ever even reaching the u.s. border, but now mexico became so overwhelmed with this particular migrant surge that they were beyond capacity and we were seeing mexico essentially give up in some cases just allow buses through their country to the u.s. border which is how so many people got here so quickly. >> julia morgan, thank you. stay close. this is an important story and we are going to stay on it. now we need to turn to the latest in a story we have been following for several days. the search for missing 22-year-old gabby petito appears to have come to a heartbreaking end. while the search for his missing fiancée or i should say hiding fiancée is heating up. nbc's catie beck is in north port, florida, where officials are still looking for that
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boyfriend brian laundrie while miguel almaguer is in wyoming where officials believe they have found the remains of gabby petito. miguel, what's the latest where you are? >> reporter: well, stephanie, that body was found not far from here. investigators have all but confirmed that body is gabby petito. they have to still conduct some forensic tests today before they can positively confirm it is her body, but her family has been notified, as you know. we are also unclear on the cause of death, that's something investigators here on the ground are also said to be working on. of course, gabby was last seen in this area about a month ago with her fiancée brian laundrie. the two were in this area as they were headed from new york over to oregon. gabby was not seen after that. so this was her last known whereabouts and investigators did find a body that is likely going to be gabby late yesterday, stephanie. >> my goodness. katie, tell us what officials are telling you down in florida about this search for her boyfriend, brian laundrie. how does he fit into this
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investigation at this point? laundrie. excuse me. >> reporter: north port police have said they have exhausted their search efforts here at this massive reserve where they were pointed to by laundrie's parents who say they told them he was going to be coming here last tuesday on a hike, this was a place that he frequented. they later found his car here and returned it back home. investigators took that tip and basically for the past two days, saturday and sunday, have been combing this 25,000 mile area by land, by air. they've been going in and out of swamp on four-wheelers trying to look for any clues of laundrie as they continue this search, but this morning they released a statement saying these search efforts here are suspended. there will be no search here at the reserve today. that they have exhausted all avenues to try and find laundrie here. that does not mean that their search for him is discontinued. they are obviously in a heightened state of an investigative mode right now, given the fact that gabby's
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remains were likely discovered just yesterday. so there is a lot more to come in this investigation, i think the question now is where is laundrie, if not here, and that is what investigators are desperately trying to figure out. steph. >> thank you both so much. we will keep you updated on this story. now turning back here to new york city where just a few minutes ago we saw allen weisselberg headed into court for a pretrial hearing. of course, you remember weisselberg long-time cfo for the trump family, the trump organization. this is the man who knows every last detail about the former president's finances. nbc's tom winter is outside the courthouse in new york city. tom, what can you tell us? >> reporter: good morning, stephanie. yes, allen weisselberg arriving at 8:57 this morning. he was indicted back in late june and he's in court today for a routine status hearing along with attorneys for the trump organization. so this should be a fairly short hearing today as far as these things go. it's going to focus mainly on
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scheduling as far as future hearings, future motion schedule. we might get a trial date for weisselberg and the trump organization today, that's something that could happen as well and if there are discovery issues the information the prosecutors have to share with the defense, what they've come up with over the course of their investigation that led to that indictment, if there's any issues there those should be hashed out and worked out in court which is expected to begin in approximately 15 minutes. what we don't think we'll glean today is any information about the ongoing investigation and it is very much ongoing, stephanie. you might remember several weeks back matthew calamari jr. spoke to the manhattan grand jury as part of this investigation by manhattan da cy vance. his father is the chief operating officer. calamari jr. is the chief security officer. so obviously this investigation is continuing. so we will pay close attention to see if we can get any new details. as far as hearings go and granted anything can happen in
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court, this one should be pretty straightforward and uneventful as far as these things go. >> we will soon find out. tom, stay close. coming up, we will have more on the investigation into the trump organization and the real question here, whether prosecutors will get weisselberg to flip on the former president. but first an immigration failure and i'm not talking about the situation down in del rio, texas, i'm talking capitol hill. the major setback for dreamers. plus the white house is in crisis mode, bad poll numbers, trouble with france and now the pentagon forced to apologize. can president biden turn all of this around with his u.n. speech that takes place tomorrow? is.n.h that takes place tomorrow? verizon has been named america's most reliable network by rootmetrics. and our customers rated us #1 for network quality in america according to j.d. power. number one in reliability, 16 times in a row. most awarded for network quality, 27 times in a row. proving once again that nobody builds networks like verizon.
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breaking overnight, at least eight people are dead and 28 injured after a shooting at russia's perm state university. the shooting began at around 11:00 a.m. local time at the university in central russia that's about 900 miles east of moscow. take a look at this video posted on social media, it appears to show people jumping out of windows at the university in an attempt to escape the gunman. russian officials say the gunman has been arrested but his identity has not yet been released. now let's head to the nation's capitol where this morning the house is back in session and it is crunch time for the democrats. they have got one week to get every member in line and pass an infrastructure bill, but many progressives in the party want that done side-by-side with the
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$3.5 trillion reconciliation bill. on top of that lawmakers have just ten days to fund the government or face a devastating shutdown. as senator mark warner puts it democrats says a, quote, rubik's cube on steroids. the senate parliamentarian, the person who decides what should be allowed in each one of these bills has ruled that democrats cannot include a path to citizenship for an estimated 8 million immigrants in that $3.5 trillion spending bill. can you explain why and how big of a deal is this set back? >> reporter: it's a significant setback but it's not the end of the road for democrats. the democrats wanted to allow a path to permanent residency, green cards for four categories of people, dreamers, pss holders, essential workers and some others including farmworkers.
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the parliamentarian said the budget process to evade a filibuster and pass a bill without any republican support cannot be used to advance this immigration policy measure. she said that is a tremendous policy change that dwarfs the budgetary impact and as a result cannot be included. democrats were somewhat prepared for this, they say they have come up with alternative proposals to include immigration provisions in this. they can do other things like potentially move dates around and allow people who are here by a certain time to apply for green cards, that's going to be their plan b. there is no plan c. if they can't put this immigration policy measure in this budget reconciliation votes, it needs 60 votes to break a filibuster and that is not going to happen because ten republican senators are not going to be on board with any major legalization plan. this is where democrats are face ago do or die moment. they have to convince the parliamentarian who is skeptical of immigration that there's some way to get this done in this multi-trillion dollar package.
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>> do or die moment with the parliamentarian and they have deadlines, some real, some self-imposed. how do you hear about how speaker pelosi plans to tackle this? at the same time you have west virginia senator joe manchin basically saying that $3.5 trillion i want to take a pause on that. that's not we're negotiating, that's saying let's temporarily stop. >> reporter: yeah, i would expect speaker pelosi to be working the phones very aggressively in the next week or ten days. she has this matrix of promises to different factions of her party that are now all coming to a head. she has promised centrist democrats there will be a vote on september 27th on that senate-passed infrastructure bill. that is still the plan according to her leadership team but she has also promised progressives that the reconciliation bill will be ready then and progressive house democrats say they insist they are willing to tank that senate-passed infrastructure bill and deal a humiliating defeat to president biden on the floor of the house if the reconciliation bill not ready then.
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there are trillions of dollars of differences to be worked out and there are only seven days until that vote. there's a lot of work to do on speaker pelosi's end. we should also know that last week house committees finished their work and though this is in a new phase. president biden met -- spoke with speaker pelosi and senate majority leader schumer. it will be up to those three to get the votes in both chambers. >> shil, busy day on the hill. coming up next, futures down big time with minutes to go before the opening bell rings, down almost 600, while congress is debating trillions and the average american trying to make ends meet. everything from milk to gas costing a whole lot more and many parents worrying that they will be unable to go back to work because they cannot find or cannot afford child care. we're going to talk about how long this will last next. 're go long this will last next being t] welcome to allstate. ♪ [band plays] ♪ a place where everyone lives life well-protected.
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breaking news. markets opened just a moment ago down just under 600. that is a big number, as the september slide gets worse and it comes at a very tricky point in our economy. inflation cooled slightly last month but compared to where we were last year, prices are way up. and shortages continue on anything from zippers to holiday toys, all of this threatening to drive up prices even further. plus, as we try to get back to work and a new normal, the delta variant is not going away. two-thirds of the country saying that we are headed in the wrong
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direction. so what does all of this mean for your wallet? let's get smarter and bring in dan nathan. we also have with us josh brown and "washington post" economics correspondent heather long. dan, we know the markets aren't the economy, but this is definitely a bad start to the week. what do you make this have drop? >> a bad start to the week but just a week ago the s&p 500 was at all time highs, steph, up about 20% on the year and, you know, listen, i think you make a great differentiation between the market and the economy. here is the thing, the economy has been slowing, obviously we have that huge v reversal off of the pandemic lows in both the market and the economy, but it was helped by obviously a great deal of just -- you know, helped by the treasury, by congress and by trillions of dollars thrown at the pandemic. here we are, we're cooling off a little bit. i guess the real concern would be this, if the stock market were to continue to go lower, what is the effect on consumer confidence?
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august consumer confidence was a six-month low. we had already seen the economy slowing a little bit, the stock market probably has a little more to come in to kind of line up with expectations for growth going forward. >> josh, consumers are feeling the pinch when it comes to inflation, we talk about it every day, prices are up, shortages are real, but when you look at retail sales numbers, people paid up higher prices and didn't flinch. what do you make of this in terms of how the consumer is doing? >> the consumer is doing great, household balance sheets are better than i can remember in my lifetime, people's 401(k)s were at record highs. the news isn't all bad from a big picture perspective, but to dan's point, the economic data -- i wouldn't say -- i wouldn't say getting bad, i would see decelerating. like the pace of the gains for the economy have slowed and consumer confidence according to the surveys is definitely not what it was earlier this summer. i'm not sure that it's
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particularly notable because a lot of things people are worried about right now have been in force for a long time. the delta thing, you've got stuff going on in china with their regulatory crack downs, you have businesses, obviously the mess and the way we left afghanistan weighs on sentiment, the price inflation story becomes an anecdotal thing, the kind of thing people talk with their neighbors about, with just their own personal experience. now we know this debt ceiling fight is going to go into the 11th hour again. we know they're going to do this because they can't help theirselves and that will be a raft of negative headlines. when you include all of those things the fed may be talking about tapering this week, the spectre of tax hikes, it's a lot to put on the scale and investors are looking at this and saying, do you know what, i just had the quickest double for the s&p 500 in market history from march 23rd through august 16th, 100% up without a 10%
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correction along the way, maybe it's not the worst thing to take something off the table and when everybody feels that way at once you get the type of market open that we're seeing today. >> how about the autumnal bookshelf scape you have working behind you, josh. clearly -- >> i told you, i came here to play in 2021. >> clearly you visited michael's crafts over the weekend and it paid off. heather, let's talk about the child care industry. over the summer it was all about restaurants couldn't hire workers, now the child care industry is having the hardest time finding workers. this is a huge problem for parents who were trying to go back to work. is this a short term or a long term issue because if these child care centers have to raise prices, parents can't pay it and at the same time these workers need to get paid more. it's a very hard job. >> yeah, i would call this a crisis and i don't throw that word around lightly. what's happening in the child care sector is basically almost no one wants to take these jobs that typically pay $12 an hour,
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often don't come with health benefits and we're seeing veteran workers quit. basically the situation, the hiring and staffing situation at day cares right now is worse than at restaurants. that tells you how little this recovery is going on and the day care industry and a lot of day cares and after school programs are having to close classrooms or scale back the number of children that they can take, and this means that parents, i hear from a lot of panicking parents who say, i can't find a spot for my kid right now. so it's having ripple effects throughout the economy and you ask if this is going to end anytime soon. i just don't see t the problem is day care centers it's really hard for them to raise pay. the wages and salaries at a restaurant are about 30% of the cost of the restaurant. in daycare it's 60%, staffing costs are 60% of a day care's typical costs. so as soon as those costs go up to try to pay the workers more,
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that means parents are going to have to pay more and already a lot of parents pay more on their day care than they do on their mortgage, monthly mortgage. as we were just talking about with inflation going up, gas prices up, food costs up there isn't a lot of extra money in middle class and working class parents' budgets to fund this. >> of course affordable child care is a big priority in president biden's $3.5 trillion infrastructure plan. dan, then, to that point how much is this contributing to people not being able to go back into the office, either they are saving a lot of money not having to pay for child care, or they can't afford to pay for additional increased child care costs or they can't find any? is this impacting people who are saying i can't come back to the office? >> yeah, i think there's two results from the pandemic and, you know, we've seen a tremendous disconnect between those people who can work from home or their kids go to schools where, you know, they were
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technologically enabled, that sort of thing, and then there's a lot of parts to the economy where those people don't have that flexibility. it's important to remember there are at least 5 million americans that are still unemployed that were employed pre-pandemic. i think the unemployment rate sits at 5%, we were at a 40 or 50 year low at 3.6% pre-pandemic. there is an uneven recovery going on. josh talked about household, you know, balance sheets and savings rates. we're also seeing consumer credit go up here, too. there are two parts to the economy and we know that as capitalists we never waste a good crisis here and we further expand a lot of inequities that existed pre-pandemic and that is going to be the scar tissue in our economy as we come out of this thing when we are looking at this pandemic? the rearview mirror. >> we exposed vulnerabilities now we have the opportunity to make them better. josh, before i go, we all watched the emmys last night, the take away network tv lost big time, screaming shows won it
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all, "ted lasso," "the crown." what does that tell you about the future of media, tv, what we're watching, how we're watching and when we're watching it? >> i'm currently appearing on my favorite daytime show, i can tell you that. i thought it was very interesting that so much of the conversation has been dominated all year by the general public with the streaming shows and the streaming platforms and then that's reflected in the emmys. usually there's this dichotomy where the critics and the people in hollywood are more excited about shows that the public isn't watching. so if you could say one positive thing, you could say, well, at least there is some match up between what wall street is recognizing, what hollywood is recognizing and what people actually like. so maybe we're making shows for people again and not for awards. maybe that's what the big take away is for me. >> if you don't like "ted lasso," "the crown," i don't
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under indictment for a series of felony charges that seem well-proven but the charges that he's charged with don't seem to prove trump. trump wasn't listed as a conspirator so we are relying on -- the da is relying on weisselberg to see those charges, be worried enough to flip to save himself and give them information about trump. so far we have seen no indication that that's happening and i think that we shouldn't expect it to happen. >> talley, he faces 15 years. do you think he will get that if convicted? >> i don't, stephanie. i think that the best guess we have right now based on the amount of money that he's accused of defrauding various government agencies of is about two to six years, but even that really remains to be seen. and that's if he goes to trial and is convicted, that amount is proven, he's well enough to serve a prison term that long at his age. >> if he doesn't flip on trump, what's the likelihood the government is going to get
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donald trump? how much do they need weisselberg? >> let's take a step back. how did we get here? we heard even when trump was still president that the da was looking into making a case about real estate valuations alleging that presumably, right, that trump was trying to -- had a practice of overvaluing properties for the purpose of getting loans and undervaluing them for tax authorities, and the reporting was telling us that he needed a live witness to state that there was criminal intent in a scheme like that and there had been hope that it would be weisselberg. i agree with david that it is unlikely that he is going to flip, so we don't really have any signs that the case against trump, the investigation against trump, has really advanced in any way. >> then, david, where do these investigations go from here? >> we might learn a little today
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from the preliminary hearing. i'm interested as was mentioned in the valuation question. that's where this investigation began and we don't really know what the resolution on that question s it wasn't mentioned at all in the weisselberg indictment. what the prosecutors will run up against if that's the thing they're trying to prove against trump now is even if you can show trump meant to do this, meant to inflate the valuations for one audience and deflate them for another there is a lot of room for that in new york law. that happens a lot in the world of real estate so you would have to prove that he was more braggadocios, more misleading than the average real estate person and that that pushed him to the level of criminality. there is a gray area they would have to get the charges out of. i don't think we've seen any evidence that they have a criminal case about to drop on that, but that's the thing i'm watching. >> imagine that is correct hey, guys, everybody in the real estate industry is totally misleading and we're just one of them. maybe that's a problem. thank you all so much. we are going to keep our eye on weisselberg and that pretrial
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developing now, president biden will head to the u.n. general assembly as he tries to contain the fallout from several
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crises abroad. it has been nearly a month since the chaotic exit from afghanistan, and his approval numbers have dropped significantly. it comes after the pentagon admitted to hitting the wrong target and in turn killing ten innocent people during a drone strike on isis-k, and that strike included seven children. and in our relationship with france is currently on the rocks after biden excluded france from a nuclear submarine deal. let's go straight to micromemoli who's with the president in delaware and courtney kube who covers the pentagon, also with us. what's the president's top priority heading into the u.n. meeting? >> well, steph, for president biden, this week is all about trying to demonstrate that the world's democracies can take collective action to take on some of the biggest challenges. we expect the president's address to the u.n. to focus in part on tackling climate change. we got a taste of that on friday when he met with eu leaders on a new methane emissions target. this is all trying to build momentum for that summit in
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glasgow at the end of october, which is supposed to be the sort of follow-up agreement to the paris climate accord. you also expect to see the president on wednesday convening a virtual summit with the world's leaders on dealing with the vaccination challenges that still exist primarily in the developing world. and then, of course, the president is also going to be meeting later this week with some of our top allies in the indopacific region. that's all about trying to constrain china. the problem, steph, is this is not going to be quite the same welcome that president biden received when he went to europe in june. there are so many challenges that have emerged since then, especially the messy, the chaotic, and the tragic withdrawal from afghanistan, that's going to result in a lot more difficult conversations. and you mentioned that flap with france, of course, as well. among the many in-person meetings that the president will be having this week, we won't see a face-to-face with president emanuel maccarrone, who because of some of the covid restrictions will not be traveling, but they expect these two leaders to speak by phone. a very intense conversation, was
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from the white house's sense, there are much more domestic politics at play here with france's really aggressive reaction to that nuclear submarine deal with the u.s. and not so much about international politics. >> but michael, is it a flap or a full-blown fight? why did the u.s. need or choose to leave france out of this pact between u.s., uk, and australia. why couldn't they include france? macron's mad. >> they had an agreement with the french, they were finding they were too expensive and not as effective as what the u.s. was posed to come to the table with their nuclear fleet. that's really what's at play here. there are a lot of questions about whether it is the australian leaders who didn't do enough to make sure the french knew what was happening. whether the u.s. should have as a courtesy to our longest ally, given them more of a heads up of what was going on here. but clearly some issues that the president who sold himself to voters in part based on his
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foreign policy experience, he believes all politics is personal, including on the world stage. he'll have to address that as well in this case, steph. >> courtney, let's talk afghanistan. how rare is it for the pentagon to admit a mistake like that? are there going to be consequences and why did they admit it? did they come out on their own, or was it that the media knew? >> there was a lot of pressure from the media. "the new york times" put out this excellent timeline and investigation, a little over a week ago, looking into this strike. and really, it was the first one to raise some very serious specific allegations that the individual who was targeted was actually an aide worker, a humanitarian worker, and that there were a number of children who were killed in this strike. it is not -- it's -- the reality is, there are strikes that result in civilian casualties. unfortunately, that is -- that is the case in conflict. the military coming out and acknowledging it, it's not just that that is so unusual, but doing it so quickly. that's what really struck me about this. and doing it the way that they
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did. generally, when there's an investigation that results in civilian casualties, especially in a number like that, we'll get an investigation that's released or we'll get a statement, but the fact that the head of u.s. central command, general frank mckenzie came out and briefed on this in the briefing room, that is uncommon. and again, the speed with which they did it is very uncommon. we do expect secretary of defense lloyd austin put out a paper statement on friday announcing that there would be a review. and we do expect according to defense officials that there will be disciplinary actions that result from that review. >> and we want an update on who is left there and why. courtney, michael, thank you very much. that wraps up this hour. chris jansing picks up breaking news coverage on the other side of the break. breaking news coverage on the other side of the break ♪♪ and even when things go a bit wrong, we've got your back.
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