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the adult dose. this morning a leading pfizer executive telling savannah guthrie they're submitting their report to the fda for review as soon as to believe. >> we're hopeful and expectant that the fda will approve the vaccine based on the data we have. the level of antibody the vaccine is generating in children 5 to 11 matches the level of antibody that we know provides protection for individuals 16 years of age and older, and the fda set the guidance along those lines. that's their expectation as well, and we believe we've met that expectation. >> also today, the biden administration announcing travel restrictions on the european union and the uk will be relaxed for vaccinated travelers beginning in november. lifting what has been a major irritant and cause of resentment against the u.s. that news as the white house faces another embarrassing missed covid deadline, this time on boosters after an fda panel
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unanimously rejected the president's announcement that boosters would be approved by today for the general population. it's a tough time for president biden on other fronts. his entire domestic agenda is in jeopardy as time is running out for a deeply divided congress to pass his mega infrastructure bill. while overseas france is furious over being blind sided by the u.s. on that $60 billion submarine contract. and all the nato allies are burning from the messy withdrawal from afghanistan. the pentagon having to admit instead of isis bombers its drone strike in kabul killed ten civilians including seven children and an aid worker for a u.s. charity. a new crisis at the border with 15,000 stranded haitians living under a bridge between texas and mexico. we begin with the pfizer trial and nbc's gabe gutierrez residence in spokane, washington. this is very promising news for families, but the current covid
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crisis inside hospitals out where you are is intensifying. >> reporter: that's right, andrea. certain parts of the northwest are dealing with a surge in cases, also in neighboring idaho specifically, and this hospital is one of those that normally takes patients from out of state, but they are having to deny some patients request transfers because there's just not enough bed space here. now, speaking about the pfizer news that you mentioned, yes, that earlier today overnight really pfizer coming out with that new data saying that its vaccine, two-dose vaccine is safe for children 5 to 11 years old. the company now says it will submit that information, that data, to the fda for emergency use authorization, and pfizer expects to have results for children under 5 years of age by the end of the year. certainly something that many parents around the country are paying attention to, especially as covid pediatric cases are rising significantly, have been since july. they're up about 240 american,
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and also here in washington state. as i mentioned, idaho seeing a huge surge in cases. some hospitals there are talking about potentially rationing care soon, something that has been very controversial in medical circles, but many health care workers just didn't expect to be talking about this a year and a half into this pandemic. at this hospital, in spokane, some of the health care workers during one shift over the weekend within a 12-hour period saw three patients die in the icu, and they say they're now having to reject, andrea, about two-thirds of their patient transfer requests from out of state. take a listen. >> we get calls every day from our placement center asking if we have icu beds to accommodate patients from idaho hospitals, and unfortunately, lately we haven't been able to take any of them. we don't ever like to say no to patients. we love taking care of patients, that's why we're in health care, and with this pandemic saying no
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to people or not having space for them is incredibly difficult and taxing on us. >> reporter: and there was frustration among some in eastern washington, andrea, because idaho does have more lax covid restrictions than washington state, and so some are crediting that, perhaps, with some of these rising cases in idaho. this hospital trying to do its best, trying to help those patients that have been transferred that are asking to be transferred over, but they just don't have the space sometimes. andrea. >> that virus knows no state borders, does it? it's just incredible news. gabe, thank you very much. and joining us now, michael oster home, the director for the center of infectious disease at the university of minnesota and dr. jennifer nyack, at the university of rochester medical center. thanks to both of you,
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dr. osterhol m great so see you. a lot of optimism from that pfizer doctor this morning. do you share his optimism based on what we've seen so far? this is company data, this is not fda data. >> i do share the optimism. i must add it's not a real surprise. we anticipated that that would be how the data would look. we just have to remind everyone, however, this doesn't mean this is how this is going to happen overnight. the fda needs to do its careful analysis in terms of working with how well the vaccine worked in terms of its immune response but also the safety issue. the final point i just want to emphasize, andrea, and i think it's so critical, we have a vaccine now that's been approved for those 12 years of age and older, and yet we only have about one-half of those 12 to 17 years of age vaccinated in this country. so, you know, turning a vaccine into a vaccination is what is really the critical step. so this is a first step today with the pfizer announcement, but it's hardly the last step, and we need to really focus on
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all the steps to get our kids protected. >> that's such a good point, dr. fauci was making that point with chuck todd on "meet the press" yesterday that getting people vaccinated for the first time is still the biggest change. i do want to focus on the kids again for one more moment with dr. nyack, though. what do you think the exception is going to be by parents? a lot of parents have been scared, frankly, to get their children back into classrooms into elementary schools, so do you think this is going to be an easier sell than perhaps some of the teenagers? >> i'm certainly hoping that there is a lot of enthusiasm. i think that when you look at parents, you know, getting kids back in school. it is something that's incredibly important and the vaccine is a very important step in order to make that happen. so i think that the data was very promiing as dr. osterholm
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said. it still has to be reviewed by the fda, which is a key step, but the data looked very promising. the fact that this lower dose of vaccine was able to have similar antibody effects that we saw in teens and adults is incredibly good news, and i think now it's going to be just working through the process and then i think there's going to be a lot of parents, there are a lot of parents who are anxiously awaiting this, and anything we can do to get even some of this population vaccinated is going to be a very helpful thing. >> and what are you seeing, dr. nyack, at your children's hospital? because we've seen terrible, terrible data on the recent surge in covid cases among children nationally. >> yes, we've certainly seen a lot more pediatric cases. our vaccination rates in this area are very good in adults which has been helping us, but clinically when i'm on the floors we've seen kids of all ages who have been hospitalized with covid-19. so this vaccine is going to be
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very good, especially since these are the kids who are in school, who are getting out more, and anything we can do to protect them is going to be very helpful. >> and dr. osterholm, let's talk about booster shots for a moment. this is what dr. fauci today chuck todd on "meet the press" yesterday ant what's going to come next. >> i understand why there might be confusion because i think people were not understanding the difference of planning for something and actually what element of that, what proportion of it you're actually going to roll out. i believe as a scientist who's been following it that ultimately the real proper regimen will turn out to be the original two shots, plus a boost, but you want to do that according to what the data tells you. >> and of course there is a mixed messaging problem for the white house because the president in august said, you know, september 20th we're going to make it available to the general population, and that's
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not taking place. it's another misstep, today is september 20th, and i think the white house was really shocked that the fda unanimously rejected that timetable on friday. >> you know, i worry that we're getting lost in the weeds here a little bit because obviously i've been following the media coverage of this issue. i wish the administration had not put a date out. i wish they had just articulated what tony just did, which is exactly right. we have to follow the science. i too like tony believe that, in fact, ultimately this will be a three-dose vaccine. you know, when we first developed these vaccines and put them into study early into the pandemic, we wanted results as quickly as possible, and had we not done that, we would have had millions and millions of additional cases and many thousands, and thousands of lives lost. what we had to understand is to get this vaccine out, we needed to make sure it was safe. we did that. now we're trying to understand
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how to best use it. i think what the data is showing us, after the first two doses that third one's going to be critical and that's what we'll see in the future. >> do you think moderna's going to quickly follow the pfizer release of data? >> i do. >> and dr. nyack, before i let you go, i understand that you were part -- you at children's in rochester were part of the trial on children. how did you find the data, at least in your set? >> i mean, we were all incredibly excited to be a part of these experiments, and definitely i think that overall, i've been very happy with how, you know, the process that this has been taking and now we just have to finish the process, send the data, have the fda look at the data and hopefully very soon we'll be able to protect this very important group of the population. >> dr. nayak, thanks so much for joining us, dr. osterholm it's
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the senate is back in session today. it's crunch time, though, with critical deadlines on voting rights, an infrastructure deal, and the $3.5 trillion reconciliation deal. senate democrats hit a major roadblock sunday in their push to include an overhaul of the country's immigration laws into a spending bill that could pass without republican support, just 50 democrats. the senate parliamentarian rejected the plan to include legislation that would grant a path to citizenship for an estimated 8 million undocumented
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people in the tax and spending bill. joining us democratic senator mark warner. senator warner, you have long been a main force behind bipartisan budget bill, you know, you had talks for years that you've co-hosted trying to get people together. this is considered a major block. i'll get to the immigration piece in a second, but what about the overall challenges just to getting some kind of major infrastructure bill combined with reconciliation going forward. >> well, andrea, let's remember that the infrastructure bill did get 69 votes in the senate. it's going to make -- it's the biggest infrastructure investment in 50 years, and i think it's going to pass in the house. there's always been a complexity to this. i called it the other day a rubik's cube, i think that it is that. you've got the infrastructure bill, you've got in the
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reconciliation bill, i think as somebody who was involved in bringing that top line number from 6 trillion down to 3.5 trillion, that's still a large number, but that is over ten years, and there is so much in there. the immigration piece may have fallen out, but there's child care. there's the child tax credit. there is making sure that those who help our seniors and disabled get a fair wage. there's issues around free community college. there are a whole host of issues that the president and others have advocated for. i've advocated for many of these, but how we do this, get it paid for in a way that's progressive. easy to say it is hard to put it all together in such an accelerated time line. >> well, there are differences in the house with moderates, you know, disagreeing and saying that they won't vote for things like, you know, the prescription drug piece, so you've got moderates on one side. you've got, of course, the
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progressive caucus with congresswoman jie ya pole saying she's got enough votes in her caucus alone to take this bill if they don't get what they want. and then on the senate side you've got such disagreement even with manchin and sinema that house members don't want to walk the plank. the moderates don't want to walk the plank in those districts. they say why should i take a tough vote if it's not going to pass the senate and i'll get hammered as they did, you know, back in the day, and that's how they lost the house in the first place. so all of those pieces have to be bridged, and the september 27th deadline is only seven days from now. >> and andrea, you didn't even mention the other two items of we've got to make sure we don't shut down the government at the end of the month, and we've now got our republican friends who are saying in terms of the debt ceiling and nothing would be worse for our country's economy in the world at this point than for the united states to renege
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on its full faith and credit of the united states and not pay the bills that we ran up under trump, but that's what some of my republican friends are saying they're willing to do, all this rolled into one. i think we will get it all done, but the idea that this is going to be -- some of this time line is a bit rushed, and -- but i would argue that we got to go ahead and put that win for the president on infrastructure, you know, how the speaker deals with -- how she deals with once a bill passed once she was relayed to the president, listen, i'm never going to second guess nancy pelosi in terms of her tactics, but the idea that we're going to be able to in a few days work through all these complex items that really are as significant in many ways as the whole new deal in a single bill for those who are old enough to or know history enough to recall roosevelt's actions during the
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1930s, we're literally talking about that kind of scope of programmatic changes, most of which i support, but we've got to make sure that we get members responsibly knowing all the component parts and that's going to be a challenge. >> senator menendez says that a scaled back immigration piece is going to be crafted. my read, our read of what the parliamentarian said it wasn't the dollar figure, it was the conceptual part that she didn't see this as a legitimate reconciliation, you know, budget and tax bill. that she saw it as a bigger cultural change. >> well, i think both parties over the years have ended up using this reconciliation process where we try to jam in as many things as possible. you know, we have -- we're long overdue on reforming immigration. we're long overdue in making sure dreamers have a path to citizenship, and those who have
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been here from el salvador, they've been here on what's called the temporary protective status program since the '90s. these folks are part of our community. we need to give them full legal status going forward, but i'm not willing to overrule the parliamentarian because i think she's been a fairly fair referee during my time in the senate. it begs out again, i wish some of our republican friends who believe in immigration reform would go ahead and finally step up, but saying that's going to happen over the next couple of weeks -- i know, andrea, i think you wanted me on to give you a little more clarity from how we're going to get from here to there over the next couple of weeks, but in my term, time in the senate i've never seen as many things coming together all at once without the kind of clarity of how we're going to knock them down. >> i wanted you on because you're a truth teller and i know you understand this better than
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almost anyone. speaking of which, how about capital gains, nobody talks about that. you're a business guy, what's going to happen on that front, and i know all the push and pull, the farm lobby, you know, worried about farm inheritances but you got those mega, mega billionaires who are not paying any taxes because of the step up provision. >> look, let's take them in order. i think raising the capital gains rate back up to that 28% range, that was the same range that ronald reagan had, so i think it's hard to argue that's not fair and if you go ahead and raise for people like me who have been lucky enough to be successful our top rate back to 39, i think i can clearly live with that. a 10 point difference between ordinary income and capital gains. i think that is fair and right. on the question of the taxation of property and death, you know, the so-called stepped up basis issue, i think there's a compromise here which would be called carryover basis.
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you might not get charged your increase in value at that moment of death where you might have to dispose of the asset, but i would say when you do sell that asset, you ought to go ahead and trace back your bases to what it -- when your family first purchased it. so i shouldn't stick you with the appreciation at death, but you ought to be able at some point pay the taxes for the whole gain. and then on the question of billionaires, i think it is wrong that billionaires don't pay something into the coffers of our country. figuring out how to do that when you've not had a sale of an item, i think there is some so-called mark-to-markets. i think there may be ways we can sort that through. i do think it needs to be evened out over a period of years. and i'm sitting down with senator wyden who's spent a lot of time on this topic. these are, particularly this
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last one, it is a great political comment to say we need to make sure billionaire pay their fair share, doing it in a way that doesn't screw up our overall system and doesn't make sure that that next entrepreneur says i'm not going to build in america, i'm going to build in canada. there could be unforeseen consequences. i think we've got to work this through. >> i'm hearing a lot of possible compromises in there. really interesting. i got to ask you this, senator cassidy told my colleague chuck todd yesterday that one reason he's against raising the debt ceiling is because it includes the trillions of dollars of infrastructure and chuck said -- and i would -- i've always thought that you're paying past debts, not future legislation, which is it? >> well, i like bill cassidy. he was a great partner on the infrastructure bill, the bipartisan infrastructure bill, but on this one senator cassidy is not right. all we're doing with raising the
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debt ceiling, is we're simply saying the united states government is going to go ahead and honor the payments we've already made. we put all this on the credit card, the $5 trillion under president trump, a lot of that i voted for because it was covid relief, but that is all retroactive, retrospective looking. the infrastructure bill that we're talking about, any prospective legislation, that will have to be dealt with at a future debt ceiling. as a matter of fact, andrea, what we should have done and mcconnell even suggested this, leader mcconnell during trump, is we should get rid of this legal fiction that somehow after we've committed dollars we have to come back and in effect sign off on it. that's a crazy washington-imposed fiction that really puts us in a very difficult place. >> senator mark warner, thank you so much for clearing everything up. total clarity. >> i wish. i wish. >> you bet. thank you very much, sir. >> thank you. and breaking news from
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florida where the fbi is searching the family home of brian laundrie, a person of interest only hours after wyoming authorities found a body they believe to be that of his traveling companion and fiancee gabby petito. laundrie hasn't been seen in nearly a week after returning home from florida in the van he shared on a cross country trip with petito but came home without her. his family says he went missing. petito's family says he isn't missing, he's in hiding. authorities in wyoming say a cause of death on the remains matching the description of petito is yet to be determined. an autopsy is scheduled for tomorrow. president biden taking the world stage at the u.n. tomorrow on the heels of a dust-up with america's oldest allies, and real questions about the u.s. strategy in afghanistan. congressman jason crow and army veteran joins us with all of that ahead on "andrea mitchell reports." this is msnbc
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. tomorrow joe biden is going to deliver his first u.n. general assembly speech in person. last year it was under covid it was virtual. and it could not come at a worse time. america's oldest ally, france is furious with the u.s. with officials accusing biden of stabbing them in the back, being as bad an ally as donald trump over washington's secret submarine deal with australia, and all the nato allies are angry over the withdrawal time line in afghanistan. plus the u.s. drone strike in kabul that killed an innocent aid worker and seven children mistaking them for isis terrorists. joining us "washington post" white house correspondent, and "new york times" diplomatic michael crowley and retired army general barry mccaffrey. how bad is the situation with the french? this is not just a dust-up. . this is a cold shoulder. >> yeah, it's not just a dust-up, andrea. it's really unprecedented.
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the french have recalled their ambassador, which as numerous french officials have pointed out is the first time that's ever happened and the fact that it's happening under joe biden, the president who set out to repair alliances and restore u.s. -- faith in u.s. leadership around the world is really quite something. i mean, the french are mad because they lost a lucrative arms contract and that implicates their ability to deliver on something that is a big part of the french economy, but they're also mad because they feel like they were cut out of an important alliance consultation, that the united states wouldn't just stab them in the back and not tell them about it. the u.s. reaction is basically that we get it, they're mad, but they'll get over it. this is a business deal, and you know, the french official that i'm talking to and i'm sure you are as well are really saying there's more to it than that. >> and this comes, michael
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crowley as the allies were already anger over the afghanistan timetable for withdrawal, the way they were consulted, what they told blinken according to lots of sources including bob woodward and robert costa book was really angry over the way we were getting out, and then on top of it it was messy, and then there's the drone the mistake on the drone, led to a shake-up in the uk cabinet, and demotion of the foreign secretary. >> there are a couple of things happening. one is this question of consultation and communication. is the united states really working with its allies as closely and carefully as president biden promised. and then there's also, i think, a little bit of a -- there's some questions of competence creeping in. you know, the nature of the withdrawal from afghanistan, the
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chaos that ensued. the administration says it couldn't have been done much better. but there are a lot of people who are second guessing that and now this heartbreaking disastrous drone strike, and the two of them, andrea, kind of point arrows towards the most dreaded analogy for the biden administration, which is that these are trumpian qualities. there are european allies saying the lack of consultation reminds them of the trump administration, and of course president trump was not known for the competence of his execution on major actions, domestic and foreign. so this is a problematic narrative for the biden administration. i think they're hoping that they can go up to new york in an international setting, practice some skillful diplomacy and try to sort of reset the narrative here. >> and general mccaffrey, this submarine deal was all about keeping china in check, but of course it's led to, you know, this blowback with france, the
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europeans as well as the drone tragedy. let's focus on that for a moment because we've been told, you know, by the president, by the secretary of state we can do this from over the horizon. but the fact is that that was an example of how you really do need boots on the ground, especially going into an urban area. >> well, you're quite right. we got to put this in context, though. remember, we just had a few days earlier a deliberate terrorist attack on a civilian crowd that not only killed 15 americans who were trying to evacuate tens of thousands of afghan, but it killed over 200 afghans. it was a deliberate measure. the context was we thought we had intel of a car bomb, perhaps 500 kilograms of explosives that would again target afghan civilians and u.s. military. they followed it for eight
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hours. these drone surveillance programs are a heck of a lot more assured than firing a 155 artillery round of an f 15 strike eagle, and they got it wrong, and a tragic loss of life ensued but again, i think the context is important. that was an under fire withdrawal of 100,000 afghan civilians where we had withdrawn almost completely eyes on the ground inside this city of 6 million people. >> and i want to just point out before we let this go is that the state department has just confirmed that another plane, a qatari plane took off on sunday with 21 u.s. citizens and 48 permanent residents, so they are continuing the evacuations, at least from the kabul airport, slow but steady let's hope. thank you very much to all of you and joining us now is congressman jason crow, a former u.s. army ranger and paratrooper
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who served in iraq and afghanistan and serves on the intelligence and armed services committees. congressman, first of all, that last military drone strike in afghanistan, the horrific punctuation to our withdrawal, what does this say about our strategy, our counterterror strategy going forward? >> hi, andrea. first of all, this was a tragic mistake. my heart goes out to the family members that were killed, ten innocent civilians, including seven children, and an aid worker. terrible mistake. the administration's response to this has been unprecedented. never before has any administration and the department of defense come out as candidly and transparently as they have in the last couple of days and said this is a mistake, that they're going to launch an investigation. we certainly have to figure out what happened, what type of mistake it was, whether somebody didn't follow protocol and procedure or something else happened. but you know, but, yes it is
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harder. there is no doubt it is harder to conduct over the horizon counterterrorism operations than if you have boots on the ground, but having boots on the ground creates other problems too. you have to defend those boots on the ground. there are mistakes that can happen there too. we should not have thousands of troops on the ground in afghanistan, and i continue to agree with the president's decision on that. >> and in talking about the tragedy of this mistake, what should we do? because this family that was wiped out, now they have been tagged as having worked with the americans on humanitarian aid. they were working for a u.s., a california agency, so they need to get out of there. should we -- as well as compensation, should we get them out of there? >> yeah, i believe we should if they want to get out of there. it's my understanding that they are interested in leaving. i think we have to do whatever is necessary to try to secure those folks and get them out. that's the right thing to do, and it's not just that family either. i think we have a special obligation certainly to that family begin the fact that we were responsible for this drone
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strike, but we still have thousands of siv applicants, people that are eligible for the priority one or priority two visa and american citizens. that's why me and other members of congress have been pressing the administration for a plan so we better understand what is happening right now to make sure those folks get out. and i'm very glad that, you know, 20 plus american citizens got out, but there are many more that we have to make sure that we are doing everything possible to bring them to safety. >> do you think that we're doing enough for the sivs? >> i don't know yet, andrea. what i do know is that there were thousands that were left there after our withdrawal on august 31st. i've been very clear and i was very clear prior to the august 31st deadline that i thought we should have extended that deadline, that we should still have operations at the airport bringing those folks out because it is so much harder right now to do that than it was when we actually controlled the airport and had the logistics and military support to do it. so that was my preference.
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that obviously did not happen. so now it becomes about, you know, what is our plan to work with third countries? how are we going to ensure safe passage across the bordering countries? what are we going to do to search capacity at our missions at those countries to process those folks, and how are we engaging with the taliban to make sure they continue to provide safe passage to the airport or do provide safe passage to the airport and commercial flights out. so a lot of questions remain. >> pakistan is urging us to deal -- recognize the taliban. of course pakistan has its own vested interests having sponsored the network, which is in cahoots with the taliban. do you think we should move more quickly to recognize the new government? >> no, i think it's a significant question as to whether or not we will ever or should ever for that matter to recognize that government. way too early to tell. the taliban have a history of brutality, not following international norms, oppressing women and children and ethnic
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minorities. that is their history, and we're starting it see indications that they really have not changed and reformed themselves. i am not a believer of providing lemgt ma psy to a regime of that nature. that doesn't mean we don't push them in a positive direction and see if there are ways we can provide leverage to push them in a direction they can be pushed in to join the international community. we have to be doing both right now, it's a very delicate time. >> it was good to see you. >> as well. thank you. an urgent new warning about the need to address global warming right now. one of the world's leading experts tells us what we need to do. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc.
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season, also oregon, now threatening the iconic trees in the sequoia national park in california as the united nations issues a dire new warning that even with current climate pledges, the globe is still on track to heat up by a catastrophic 2.7 degrees celsius by the end of the century. joining us is chief scientist at the nature conservancy, and an author of "saving: a climate scientist's case for hope and healing in a divided world." thank you very much for joining us. what can we expect, you know, at this international gathering since we are so far behind, it's so hard to get china and india, even the u.s. on board? >> and we have the big climate conference coming up in glasgow as well. >> exactly. >> at the beginning of november. we need to cut our carbon emissions as much as possible as soon as possible. some action has already been taken, but the united states nations warnings only enough
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action to keep global temperature change at 2.7 degrees rather than the 2 degrees or even better, 1 1/2 that we need. we have to invest in nature-based solutions to pull that carbon out of the air and put it where we want it in the soil and the biosphere, and build resilience to the impacts we can no longer avoid because some of those as you said, are already here today. >> there's more reporting today on senator joe manchin, he's obviously the key obstacle, one of the two key obstacles to the climate provisions that are part of the new reconciliation package, and there's new reporting he comes not only from a coal state but on his personal portfolio with, you know, half a million dollars a year in profit from the coal industry. >> i'm going to say something kind of surprising, which is i'm grateful for what fossil fuels have brought us. they were what enabled us to have the life that we have today, but just as we no longer use model t fords or party line
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telephones, in the same way it is past time to wean ourselves off the old, outdated is frankly very dirty and polluting sources of energy in the past, to move on to clean sources of energy in the future, particulate emissions from burning fossil fuels are responsible for almost 9 million deaths per year around the world, and that alone gives us every reason we need to transition to clean energy. >> natural gas was considered by many maybe perhaps people who were not as well-versed as you are as a transitional source to get, you know, cleaner than coal, not totally clean, not renewable, but cleaner than coal, but now we're talking- we hear talk of getting rid of gas stoves, which cooks often think of as far better than electric stoves, for instance. so it gets really personal down to the way we live. >> well, natural gas was a
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bridge. it helped the u.s. keep its carbon emissions stable and even reduce them a little bit, but we've already got to the end of that bridge, and i'm glad you brought up the stove issue because as a cook, i loved my gas stove. but the reason why i moved to induction a few years ago was actually because of the indoor air pollution it provides. you know, as a mom, my child's health is one of the most important things to me, and knowing that i was actually impacting their health through the gases i used to cook was what led me to make the switch. so just as there are both short-term immediate benefits for us personally in our health as well as long-term benefits for the climate with the stove we use, so too the same metaphor extends across the world. >> i'm so glad you were here today because i did not know that, and that's been a staple the gas stove. we all learn every day, katherine hail, thank you so much, the chief scientist at the
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take us behind it. benjamin netanyahu felt that joe biden correctly tried to restore the nuclear negotiations. he has unsuccessfully so far, and he wanted to get it done under trump and had white house buy-in. >> yeah. thank you for the warm words. when he was killed, and the different contradicted versions first came from iran, the most ridiculous was that it was a killer robot. it was ridiculous enough, so the new york times, our colleagues from the d.c. bureau -- they started to dig in for months trying to reconstruct what happened. they ended up that at least at this time, the revolutionary guards who seemingly were trying to just shift away the blame for not protecting their -- he was like the most -- second most
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