hat to take us off the air. this is where this ends up. this was a highway overpass in texas. the banners read vaccines kill. you are the happy to have you here. so we're supposed to start at noon. noon sharp on saturday. plan was to have everybody in place. and this very dramatic setting, right in front of the capitol. for a big bold dramatic loud statement that would start at noon sharp. the hold world would be. watching as the loudly demanded justice. and as we got towards noon, as

we closed in on a go time. on saturday. a veteran reporter from the los angeles time was there at the scene. to witness the peoples streaming in. to witness the huge crowds converging. ready to make themselves heard. that reporter, doug melbourne from the l.a. times, was able to capture the scenes. as we closed into that noon hour. he captured the scene this way, at 11:33 am anne yes that was. it. and this isn't just a shot that was taken in the wrong direction. or a shot that was taken of the sidelines. if you look where we're reporting out there, that's the big screen. that is the stage. that's the center of the main event. less than a half hour before the whole thing was supposed to kick off. worries everybody? now, to be fair, this was 11:33 am. things did fill out a little bit by the time noon actually

rolled around. but, not by that much. this was a's biggest the whole thing ever got on saturday. this was around 1 pm. about an hour into it. when there is a big march, a rally, in washington. sometimes news outlets will use crowd size experts, or area views of the crowd, to do a bunch of complicated math. to approximate the size of the crowd. in this case, you can just any meaning money more, count them all up by hand. capitol police said in total there were around 400 or so people milling around that site, in front of the capitol on saturday. but most of the 400 were not actually protesters. if you actually zoom in on the crowd, this is what it looks like. it was a dozen people with cameras. a dozen people are so pointing cameras. because there were many more members of the media at this thing, than actual pro trump

protesters. this guy counted us to because the family and especially, [inaudible] the washington post reported this weekend that the attendance was so small that reporters and tv crews actually lined up. they formed a little cues. pun intended. to wait for their turn to individual, to interview with protesters, because there weren't enough protesters to go around. the ratio of reporters to interviews were just way too high. because there were just so few people there, there wasn't room to have this little impromptu exercise class, on site at the rally. there was also enough room for this guy to parade his dog. which is a, every kid dog, but also appears to be the size of a very small horse. he was not selling right. but, it was a dude and his dog. the rally turned out to be such a nothing, that the police

horses did not have anything to do either. it was a nice day for them to be out there, they all seem to have gotten a little extra horse cable, as a treat. i don't know if you call a cable when it comes to horses, i don't know. this rally on saturday, sort of turned out to the easy possible day of where is waldo. there was a lot of space. there are literally more people being prosecuted right now for trying to over for the government, and there were people at this rally arguing that all those people should be set free. what's happened? did your invitation get lost in the mail? did you accidentally put the wrong date on the fly? or did everybody and all the tens of thousands show up in washington state by accident in? instead of washington d.c., commoner. occasionally an expensive one. this sad little trombone, warmth warmth, was supposed to be the triumphant return of trump supporters to washington d.c.. for the first time since the

violently attacked the u.s. capital in january, in an effort to try and physically stop the election results from being certified, and thereby to block joe biden from becoming president. they all stormed to the capital on january six, because donald trump said the election was stolen from him. this saturday, was the day trump supporters were going to demand the release of all the people who were of rested for the electoral, back on january six. you know, including the people who smashed in the windows of the capital, and the cops with metal pipes, and crutches and hockey six, and sprayed police officers with bare spree, and hit them with a stun guns. the point of this rally on saturday, was to agitate for all of those people to be free. but obviously they're just being persecuted for being trump supporters. they didn't do anything. that was the cause around which trump supporters organized this rally on saturday. but no matter the size of the dog, it ended up just being a

dude and his dog. saturday ended up being the story of wilbur preparedness by capitol police, thank god. just better than the opposite. they did arrest a couple of people on outstanding warrants. somebody else on weapons charge. but the fencing going back up around the u.s. capitol, and the national guard standing by, turns out that is not what was needed. man with dog an impromptu exercise class, notwithstanding, just nobody showed. that said the cause is alive. republican legislators are busy pursuing their own efforts to overturn. or try to discredit the presidential election results. look at this, the republican investigation of the presidential election results from wisconsin, they have now set up their own youtube channel, to try and make their investigation of the election results more official. has we've been reporting here over the last couple of, weeks so far this investigation has been conducting its business using random gmail address, and some fake letterheads that they

need up. now, they got a youtube channel. and so republicans are trying to make it seem much more official. republicans in the pennsylvania state senate, are going ahead with their review as well, although, every single democrat in the state senate has sued the republicans. to try and stop them from sipping him personal identifying into mission from every voter from the state of pennsylvania. pennsylvania republicans. again they're reviewing the election results in that state. they won't even stay how they are going to investigate the election results, or who is going to do the investigation. but nevertheless, they have subpoenaed from every single voter in pennsylvania, your date of birth, your address, your drivers isis number, and a portion of your social security number. what are they going to do with all that information? democrats in this state senate and now all of them are suing, to try and stop republicans from getting that information on every voter in the state.

and in just during the, two democrats in congress we mary gay scanlon and zoe lofgren, two democratic members of congress are also not asking the u.s. justices time print, to look at, to intervene -- as to what republicans are going to do with all that personal identifying into information from every voter in the state of pennsylvania. the original one of these audits is of course the one in arizona. that one is supposed to release its reported findings at the end of this week on friday. we will see. they started this thing in april, and said it would take three weeks. it's officially now late september. so who knows. but they say it will be on friday. with all of this election overthrow energy, coursing through the republican party right now, you think that the guy who jingle this up in the first place would be happy to see it. happy though, he is not. in the wake of nobody showing

up for the saturday rally for the january 6th rioters, former president donald trump released a swear-y, screaming statement, that was a little unhinged even by his standards. said in part quote >> i have had the same fate bs, actually spelled it, out seem vague going on for years with the witch hunt by the new york district attorney's, and the new york attorney general, headed by never trumpers, lawyer who shockingly works for the d's office. this is unprecedented, over 3 million pages of documents have been examined by them. a record fishing expedition. never trumper lawyers or law firms are used by the da and attorney general to get trump in their prosecutorial misconduct witch hunt, political campaigns. are viciously waged by them to get elected. and they have nothing. >> i'm reading this verbatim, i'm sorry this doesn't make sense, >> quote this has been

going on for years and the people of our country are not going to take it anymore, some >> i don't know how to make how to make sense, i don't even know how to punctuated, it seems as though trump freaked out madly. and when that happened, i'm not sure anybody really knew what exactly had precipitated that freak-out. was he said that more people didn't turn out. because justice for the people who attacked the capitol in his name. was he said that nobody turned? up why is he going on about the witch hunt and the prosecutorial -- who knows where did this come from? not sure whatever body knew what to make out of that meltdown, from the former president, until this afternoon. we got a transcript of what happened in court today, in the criminal trial of his business, the trump organization. you'd recall june 30th, trump's business, the trump organization was charged with a string of felonies. with the chief financial officer, allen weissleberg who

was charged in his individual capacity. today was the first day that mr. allen weissleberg was back in court, following the initial arraignment back after charges were first filed in june. and today really should have been kind of a no news hearing. the point of this hearing today, was basically for the lawyers just to ask for more time to prepare their defense. they did ask the judge for that, and they got. it the trial probably won't be until almost a year from now, which is interesting. but, in haggling over how much the time they could get from the judge, the lawyers in the courtroom today, particularly the defense council for mr. allen weissleberg made quite a bit of news. which may have had the side effect of [inaudible] the former president in that statement. judge for yourself. here's what happened in court today. >> defensive tierney, you're honored the law clearly gives the court discretion to set a motion schedule in the interests and fairness of justice. i'm asking the court today to

exercise that discretion. to set a motion schedule that one is not practically impossible for mr. weisselberg to. meet and two that is not patently unfair. mr. weisselberg was indicted only 80 days ago, since then we received only 3 million pages of documents. just today we got 3 million more pages of documents. that's over 6 million pages. not to review those in some orderly schedule would still requires to review 25 to 35,000 pages every day. seventies a. weeks it's very very difficult to imagine how we can do. that it is a herculean task. that is it all the more difficult by the fact that i know, as i said here, today more documents are being produced by various parties. we don't even know what we are shooting at, it is a moving target. >> then he says this quote >> also we have strong reason to believe, there could be other indictments coming. again we are shooting in a moving target, so there's a real procedural issue, and i just ask what is the rush? >> okay whether or not there's

a rush. what is that he said there at the end. >> we have strong reason to believe, there could be other indictments coming. >> really? why do you believe that. tell me more. that was the defense attorney for the trump organization's, chief financial officer allen weissenberg, speaking to the new york. now more indictments coming? really allan weissenberg, as ceo, and the trump organization itself, they're all ready facing multiple serious felony counts in this alleged tax scheme. now weisselberg's defense counsel said in court today, that he is strong reason to believe more indictments are coming. again this is just a scheduling hearing today, you're not supposed to make news like that at a schedule hearing. but wait there's more. and the other part of news here from this hearing came as the prosecutor was basically trying to refute the argument from the defense council, that there's too much information to get through, that the defense has been buried and paperwork.

so the prosecutor and the defense counsel, have an exchange here that leads to another revelation. >> there is nothing unusually complex about this, case it is a simple case of executives hiding their competition in order to avoid tax obligations. the court documents that are relevant to these charges, were produced on july 1st at the rain. the defendants have all been in possession of those records for 80 days at this point. we join in defense council's request for a schedule that is very reasonable. i think we differ a little bit on what that means. but in response to the arguments, made i would know that allen weisselberg is no stranger to these. documents these documents are, almost exclusively, the overwhelming majority of these records are trump organization records. mr. weisselberg has been with the trump organization for 35 years, he is a chief financial officer, and he may not have technical access duster ton of the trump organizational records, with respect to relevant financial records of mr. weisselberg's the boss. he is also not an instant party

being caught up in the collateral damage. here he is an executive who stands accused by multiple felonies, including fraud, and texas. it is the people's right to proceed in our case against him and his obligated to abide by the schedule of the court. >> and then the defense council holding the envelope while he says it. and this package, meaning the documents that were just given to the prosecutors today,

according to the defense council, he said these were defended by coconspirators basements. coconspirators basements. which means, presumably, we are gonna get some extra help on this later on in the hour. but that means presumably, that in the ongoing criminal case against donald trump's business against the trump organization, search warrants are being executed with a various coconspirators that are turning up -- the alleged felonious scheme tax documents even today, handed to the defense council that are the multiple felonies that trump's company and allen weisselberg already facing. so i guess, hugh eruption of mount meng term, right? all of this complaining of the millions of documents and the terrible lawyers working on this case, and all the

misconduct by the prosecutors here. i'm assuming that is the cause of that eruption. in the end, as i, said the judge did go along with the request by the defense for more time, which means that former president trump's company and at least one of his executives is going to have your criminal trial play out in new york, in court, in like september of next year. which of course will put the trial on the front page and in the spotlight, right as voters are starting to go to the polls in the midterm elections. in a year when, when the republican party, unless things turn around sometime soon, this will be a year where the republican party stands for nothing so much as it continues its devotion to trump, the criminal trial, in which the presidents business, his cfo, and maybe additional people or entities, are under felony indictment for a sprawling alleged multi million dollar

tax scheme. that should be happening right as everyone goes to vote in the midterms. this is interesting, separately, this was a surprise. unrelated indictment unveiled tonight. to fairly well known republicans, we dug wead and a man named jesse wead who has made a senior political staffer in the rand paul orbit, we are indicted in federal court today for allegedly funneling illegal donations from a russian national into the trump campaign in 2016. so there's no indication the trump campaign knew it was receiving illegal russian funds during the campaign, through this scheme apparently led by these two men. we don't know who the russian

national could've been. we but just see benton was only pardoned in 2020. we benton he was convicted with -- trump pardon him in december. as josh christine pointed out in political tonight, this new indictment charges that ben was we follow -- funneling illegal funds to the trump campaign. he was doing that working on that scheme at the same time he was being sentenced for his earlier conviction. this indictment tonight was filed just before the statute of limitations, would've expired for these alleged crimes and at this point we don't know if the identity of the russian a national we --

the trump organization case, the revelation from the defense council in the trump organization case, a new documents were just handed over to them which were seized from someone's basement and they were tax documents related to those crimes -- all of this was new to us. so we will be watching all of that. but you know, meanwhile, away from the continuing crimes be surrounding the immediate former president of the united states, the real president, the current president, is busy. he's planning to speak at the opening of the un general assembly tomorrow. at home in washington, both the house and senate are in session for the first time since way back in the summer. it's going to be a busy time. senate democrats say they want to pass their new voting rights bill as early as this week. you'll remember that this new voting rights bill includes rules about the way that you're supposed to treat records,

election equipment, it shut around. the democrats in the senate also have to figure out how they are going to keep the government funded and also raise the debt ceiling. mitch mcconnell, says republicans will try to block both of those things which means republicans want the government to default on its debt and they want the government to be forced into a needless shut down, purely for mina meaner value. they're not trying to get anything in exchange for holding out on any of this, they just want that harm to the country because they can. we immigration reform tucked into the infrastructure bill, those efforts that we were covering all last week, senate democrats were asking if that reform would be passed, it was

rebuffed. they cannot include immigration reform the way they were planning to in that bill which means they can't pass immigration reform without running up against a republican filibuster, which means there is some hope for getting it passed. unless there is some other way. interestingly today, democratic senators who had been working hard on that issue say that plan one was to pass something through the senate in normal order, we plan to was trying to get it through permission of the parliamentarian. they said no. they said today that they have a plan three and a plan for to get it anyway. we don't know what those alternate proposals are but we will work -- talk to a key senator working on that. and much. more right here, next. right here, next. ♪ ♪

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more the immigration proposal was meant to include -- would've meant a path to citizenship for millions of people already living in the u.s., including the dreamers, people who are brought to this country as kids. many of whom have lived in the united states a since they got

here, they've left their entire adult lives in this country. democrats are trying to get that big bill, that big budget reconciliation bill, including all this stuff, passed with only democratic votes. under arcane senate rules. that means that they have to go through the parliamentarian to get everything approved to basically get her permission to include what they want to include in the bill. and we have been waiting all last week for an answer from that parliamentarian on whether the immigration stuff could be included in the democrat's bill. then this weekend, she finally issued her ruling that the democrats proposal, at least as it was presented to her, no, it will not be put in the bill. basically said, it was too broad and democrats need to go back to the drawing board. now, even before the parliamentarian issued a ruling, democrats said that they had other plans. that if she said no, they would not give up, they would not take no for not, so they would keep revising their plan and coming up with new proposals

until it passed buster with the parliamentarian because they will pass something. today, the second ranking democrat in the senate, senator dick durbin, real iterated that pledge, he issued a statement with california senator alex padilla, saying, quote -- senator durbin also told nbc news, so heel cup, or that senate democrats have a plan the, plan c, and plenty and including the immigration package in the reconciliation bill. i have a lot of questions, a lot of people do. what is plan b, what is plan c, and what is plan d? what are these proposals going to look like? if democrats are really not going to take no for an answer, if they go through with this plan b proposal, and they try all the other plans and they

don't go through, could this reach a point where democrats decide that they are going to overruled the parliamentarian, or replace the parliamentarian? both of which have happened before. because they care enough about this issue that they are going to get this passed one way or another. joining us now is senator alex video of california, he is a member of the budget committee he is the chair of the judiciary subcommittee of four to safety. he's one of the key figures pushing for immigration issues to be included in this bill. senator padilla, it's really nice to see this evening. >> good to see you, it's been a little while, but things are having. we >> indeed. talk us through what we should understand about this, it does seem like the parliamentarians ruling this nobodies idea of a sure bet. we were sure by the senator -- we know that there are alternate proposals that are ready to go back to her. can you talk us through about how this is gonna go through? >> sure, at first and foremost,

the parliamentarians ruling that we learned off right now is disappointing. it has come as a complete shock. because, as you, know in our business, you hope for the best, prepare for the worse. so yes we have been working on alternative we didn't get an proposals initial yes to our first proposal. so. senator strike there said there is a plan b, so there is a plan b and not and a plan c and whatnot, necessarily a plan c but but the fundamental goal stay the same. the fundamentals out of respect for the millions of immigrants who have been living in the united states for years, and, years and years. rachel, as you know, adult undocumented i immigrants have been in the united states have been here on average for 18 years. building homes, raising families, contributing to the success of our country. they deserve to live without fear of deportation. plan b, plan c, whatever it

takes, we will keep on fighting until we get to yes and provide those protections and security for as many people as possible, as quickly as possible. when you say you're gonna keep fighting until you get to yes, i think i'm just trying to understand, a lot of people trying to understand, or set reasonable expectations for how this is gonna. go and i want to ask you about something that reportedly happened today, with senator menendez. today, senator menendez and rights group, had a conference call with reporters. where a leader from one immigration advocacy said, nobody gets the hide behind the parliamentarian this, year she is not an elected official, she serves at the pleasure of the majority leader, requiring at the parliamentarian, will never get to guess on this issue. that is democrat prerogative, to replace her with somebody that views these matters differently. is that within the realm of possibilities within your concern? >> look, i don't think we're

there yet frankly. because we have second proposal, third proposal, to get to yes as i mentioned. and provide the much deserved will earn protection for millions of people in the united states. so that is what the task at hand, without the [inaudible] with the parliamentarian. clearly the budget reconciliation process and the infrastructure package negotiations are not going to be finalized in the next couple of. days so there is a little bit of time here, and we are very confident that one of the alternative plans that we will be presented, in the coming days. will meet the trash hold on the criteria of the parliamentarian has laid out. so please stay tuned, this is an interactive process. but we are not giving up the fight. we know how important this is, particularly for my home state of california. i want to make sure i make this

quite frank, because representatives of so many other states, you know california's home to so many immigrants than any other states in the nation. and it seems like it's a different topic, a different audience, a different subject matter, when people recognize california as the fifth largest economy in the world. if immigrants were a drag on the economy, that wouldn't be a case. california has the strongest economy of any state in the nation, because of the contribution of were forced, as consumers, as entrepreneurs. so we will continue to evolve the presentation to the parliamentarian, to recognize that it is not just an economic impact, it is a federal budget impact, which is at the heart of the reconciliation process is all about. >> senator padilla, let me also ask you about an issue right now where the time really is short. that is the question of keeping the lights on in the government. keeping the government operating. bumping up against the debt

ceiling, which is due to happen within weeks, we are in what appears to be not so much a standoff, as essentially a refusal sort of threat, slash promise from the republican side of the aisle, that they not only won't help keep the government funded, they will vote to keep the government funded, nor will the vote to raise the debt ceiling, but in fact they may filibuster on. which would not only mean that republicans are helping to do those things. but they are blocking democrats from keeping the government going. and from defaulting the government. if we are allowed to hit that that ceiling. how is that going to resolve? i am struck by the fact that the republicans aren't making any demands, they're just saying yes we're going to hit both of those walls and you're not gonna do anything about it. >> it sounds like the question is, are we surprised that mitch mcconnell and senate republicans are playing politics with the nation's

economy and the building for the government to keep functioning will start the next fiscal year, are we shocked and surprised that mitch mcconnell and senators are being obstructionists once again? and trying to box democrats in? with their only lens of the 22 election. of course not. but we do have some ten base or so to have all the confidence in that leader schumer. and speaker pelosi for that matter. to make sure that we get the agreements done on a timely basis to avoid any damage. frankly to american families. because they are ultimately the people who get hurt the most. but if there's another government shutdown like there has been in the past, or anything else we will be responsible, we will get done when needs to get done. i would not mind being a senate republican who votes by the way, against emergency funding against the hurricane in louisiana, i would not want to be a republican that votes

against emergency funding or the victims of flooding, or in the northeast and i certainly would not want to be a republican who votes against the necessary urgent funding for victims of wildfire in the west. that's going to be a choice that they will have to make. >> senator alex padilla of california, some budget committee chair of the -- sir thanks for making time to be with us this evening, i know that this is an early really time and, thanks for and standing. >> thank you rachel. >> we'll tell you one other thing to watch for this, week in washington, as promised in the house back in session, speaker nancy pelosi had said, when they came back in session, that the house would take up the women's health protection at. which is essentially, non steady case sponsored by congresswoman judy chu, that would qualify in law, the protection for abortion rights. from roe v. wade. because of the supreme court allowed the texas abortion that to go into effect, while the

house was on recess, nancy pelosi said that would come right up business there, buckley are bringing that up in the past. the senate will then have decide if they are also going to pass that legislation. which is a harder thing for them to do in the united states. but timing could not be more urgent on that. this weekend a san antonio, doctor came forward, and said that he has deliberately broken that ban. that he provided an abortion after six weeks. that means the legal process have started in terms of the way that challenge is going to go weather, not actual legislation is pressed on capitol hill to bolster abortion. writes another one of these things that could not be more timely at all. all really just has to happen all at once. much more ahead tonight, stay with us. >> who

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technically a scheduling hearing. which means it was a hearing to schedule future hearings. right? not genuinely gripping stuff. but then in the middle of today's hearing, the schedule more hearings, the defense lawyer held up a manila envelope in and in the courtroom, and announced it was represented to us by the >> new key documents just handed over the years today, documents found in basements, basements plural, from coconspirators floral. this is getting more interesting. it was the first court explained by the top financial assistance, by donald trump's company, by the first court appearance since he and the trump organization were arraigned this summer. both he and the trump organization are charged with

15 year multi million tax evasion scheme. if you want to boil it down. weisselberg himself has pled not guilty, from his lawyers for trump's business. but to answer the question as to whether there is going to be more coming from prosecutors in this case, well that same defense council who held up the envelope today and said, that same council also told the judge today >> we don't know why mr. weisselberg defense tierney sets that, or who those other might apply to. new york prosecutors have reportedly been investigating other senior trump organization executives, but who knows. whatever is going on right now in the case against weisselberg and the trump organization, the former president certainly appears to be upset about it, firing off an incoherent statement this weekend, attacking the manhattan district attorney by name, and

the new york attorney general by name, going after one of the district attorney's lawyers by name. objecting to how many documents from his company you are it some. saying people will not stand for this. i think they will. we will see. joining us now is danny goldman, former assistant u.s. from the seventh district for new york, he was lead counsel for the -- mr. culminates icu, thanks for making time. tonight >> great to be with you rachel. >> as you look at these revelations in court today, as a non lawyer i look at the assertion that new -- have been found in more conspirators baseman, and been handed over to the dispense. the proclamation that there's likely more indictments coming, and i as a non lawyer take these things on face value. oh it looks like this case is about to get bigger. a new search warrants, are those reasonable instances to

draw for what happened in court today? a lot of the statements made by weisselberg's attorneys to convince the judge to give them a longer time to review the materials and file motions, they revealed a lot. and yes, when you start hearing coconspirators basements, to be very clear, it be one thing to say they got documents from coconspirators. they could get those by voluntarily producing them, they could get those by subpoena, they could get those because of core operators -- coconspirators cooperating and giving it to that. but when you start giving -- talking about specific locations where they came from, that is a clear indication that there have been search warrants and they talk about basements per multiple search warrants. i think there have been search warrants. it is clear that this

investigation is not just about allen weisselberg. there is a lot of speculation up there. but there were a couple of things that jumped out to me in the transcript that lead me to believe that allen weisselberg is at the top of the pyramid of the scheme. but first is, the assistant district attorney said that us to the financial records, weisselberg is the boss. obviously, he is not the boss of the trump organization, that has been donald trump, and perhaps his sons. but the fact that he referenced him as the boss of the financial records indicates that he is the top of this conspiracy. so now we are looking at a couple of people either parallel to him, or underneath him in the trump organization that may be implicated in this compensation scheme to avoid taxes. the question is, do any of

those people cooperate, are they just cooperating to provide more evidence against allen weisselberg? or do they have evidence of knowledge of people higher up then allen weisselberg? there is still a lot of questions, but it does appear that there will be more indictments of individuals. i would guess that it does not include donald trump, or his children. >> and damn, when you look at how this is proceeding, i was struck by the fact that it's going to be nearly a year according to the judge today that the trials happened. coincidentally, potentially has political implications and that it will -- if things proceed the way they are proceeding, it would seem that the company former presidents company will be on trial right before the elections. but what strikes me is trump making these belligerent statements, naming the da, naming the attorney general,

and then naming a specific lawyer who is working on the case in the da's office, is he running and risk by doing this? say the american people will not stand by this, calling it a witch hunt, calling on prosecutorial misconduct, is he flirting with any win -- anything that might potentially get him into trouble or might be worse in the case against him by doing this in a public way? >> there is certainly -- his statements, as the chief executive of the trump organization could be fairly used against the trump organization. anything he says could be used at a trial against the organization. and yes, you cannot threaten prosecutors in any way, shape, or form. that is a crime. the question -- donald trump, for many years, has escaped a lot of liability them or guilt, because he

speaks like a mob boss. he doesn't say things directly, but he says things with enough of a hint or and in front so that the people who are following him or are around him understand him. michael cohen has talked about this at length. so i don't think that statement in itself is chargeable. but if it continues, and it gets worse, yes, you could potentially have some degree of obstruction of justice or threats against state officials that is illegal. we >> dan goldman, former assistant u.s. attorney, it's good to see you, thanks for helping us understand this tonight, thank. you >> thanks. rachel >> will be right back stay with. us with. us instantly ready to start working. so you can bounce back fast with alka-seltzer plus. in the romo household we take things to the max oh yeah! honey, you still in bed?

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