that is our broadcast for this thursday night with our thanks for being with us. you can catch me again tomorrow morning at 10:00 a.m. eastern on msnbc reports and i look forward to joining you here for man when it rains it pours. we've gotten used to break in a few different fronts tonight. there's a lot going on. today started off as a normal thursday. and we had sort of a normal thursday show planned. and then as we got closer and closer to showtime it turned into lead christmas. legally a, not as an potatoes in league, but newsworthy leaks. and then that turned into subpoena christmas. we have thrown out in its

entirety everything that we are planning on doing tonight and started a whole new series of stories. i will tell you in advance there may be a little more early really with assisting tonight's show. because so many of these stories are breaking at the last minute, and coming up as we are reporting to them. but let's just get into. it forgive me for any string into the margins. and being out of the leaves a little bit. but let me tell you what we've been working on. first we're gonna start with arizona. back in april republicans in the state legislature in arizona's said they would start an audit, an investigation of the presidential results in that state. they hired a contractor to do that so-called audit, a guy who promoted qanon conspiracy stuff online. a guy who had never had any experience with election audits. which are actually a real thing. real companies and experts can be certified to do real election audits. he was not one of those experts, in fact he had no experience in the field at all.

but they never the last hired him and his company. which appears to just be him. a company called cyber ninjas. and with that auspicious beginning, thus began a new amazing just months long, very trumpy circus, in arizona. they did start in april, they said it would take three weeks, now it is five months later. they are finally going to release the results tomorrow. as we've been reporting, everyone in trump world has been vibrating at a very high pitch and anticipation of the release of the arizona audit results tomorrow. former president trump has been outdoing himself in the lead up to tomorrow's report. in terms of both the frequency and the increase in freak in history of his more then daily statements. about how the election was stolen from him and all will be revealed and the american people will soon see the evidence is coming. i can tell you tonight, that

there has been a document circulating all day today in arizona journalism circle. it is a document that reports to be near final draft of the arizona on it report. the results of the arizona's so-called audit. in addition to the circulating in arizona journalism, i can tell you we have reviewed it, i have reviewed it. it's three hold volumes. help us to put this? other than to tell you that it reported conclusions are objectively hilarious. we are not going to report on the contents of that report a draft tonight. because even though multiple sources have told us that it is legitimate, we track down many sources today who all come from that that is a close to final draft of the results that are going to be released tomorrow. we frankly, despite that multiple source confirmation, we just do not trust anything

that has come from anything near this clam show process in arizona. so even though, i can report to you with confidence and with personal knowledge that there is widely circulating in arizona, a draft of the reported results, we will wait. they will release their supposed reluctance tomorrow at 1 pm local town 4 pm eastern time. trump world will lose their mind regardless of what's the are going to report. but we will wait to see what they actually say. so there is that. i will tell you once the final results, are released one of the things that will be interesting to see is whether or not they revised those results from what appears to be there near final draft once it started circulating in journalistic circle and giving people a chance to laugh at it. anyway, like i said when it rains it pours. and use has been developing over the course of today, and into the news tonight. tonight, the select committee investigating the january 6th attack on the u.s. capital, by

trump supporter to believe the lies about the election and who sought to block the certification of the presidential election result, they sought to block president biden being named the next president of the united states. they sought through violence to keep donald trump in power. the u.s. house committee that is investigating that attack has tonight just issued some very provocative subpoenas to for very high profiled senior trump administration officials. this has evolved over the course of the day, and it is interesting at, what we learned today that reporting from political doc come and washington post, that the january six investigation was, in the words of political's headline as you can see there, was accelerated. political is in fact first to report that the national archives and records administration had started to produce documents and records to the committee from the trump white house about events leading up to, and including the attack on january six, now the national archives and records administration keeps

white house records they are the custodian results of the records, they are the ones that receive the results from the committee to produce those records. and what they do when it comes to a former president, is that they have to give the former president a chance to object to the release of those documents. well they've done so. the first stack of those trump white house documents, that have been requested by the january six investigation, the first stack of those documents have been reportedly been delivered to former president trump himself. for his review. as he and his lawyers consider what options they may have, or may not have, to stop the release of those documents to the committee and ultimately the release of those documents to the public. those documents being delivered to trump and his lawyers, so they can review them, that maybe will lead one slightly beside himself trump spokesman to tell the post that the only reason these documents are being demanded in the first place is because of this quote, communist style select committee.

communist oh? yes, right after this thing with the general six attack they're going to move on to putting on a five-year week put the action plan, and they will all move to collective farms. as their communist still. you should that's exactly what you meant? we will now tonight, after that freak out earlier in the day, about the trump white house documents actually being produced by the national archives records of administration so they could ultimately be given to the committee, after that little freak out from trump world earlier in the day, tonight the january six investigation committee has issued subpoenas to for very high profile trump officials. steve bennett and white house adviser who was arrested and charged with multiple felonies last year before he was ultimately pardoned by trump. also, trump's chief of staff. daniel scavino, trump's communications guy who wrote his tweets among other.

things also we kashyap patel, one of the trump loyalist who was mysteriously installed at the highest level of the pentagon at the very end of the trump administration after the election for reasons that have never become clear. all four of those trump administration officials tonight are directed in the new subpoenas to hand over documents to the investigation by october 7th. that's two weeks from now. they're also directed to appear for depositions a week after that. on october 14th and october 15th. now will they comply with the subpoenas? interesting question. congressman adam schiff just ahead of the administration can, because also the head of the january six investigation. he said earlier today before the subpoenas were issues that the committee may well consider criminal referrals for anybody who obstructs the committee's work. or who specifically, refuses a subpoena that compels them to come and testify and to hand over documents. so that very overt threat from congressman shift early in the day that to resist a subpoena

from the committee, is to invite criminal referral. and elton night we following that from congressman adam schiff we've got those four subpoenas. for very high from trump's or goals -- here the subpoenas to testify here the subpoena stand over documents. that is developing just within the last hour as well we're going to have more on that ahead over the course of tonight's show. there's one other thing to tell, you and this is something that we're reporting tonight exclusively, and for this next bit of news tonight we're going to start by stepping back for just a second. we do you remember this from last spring, the spring of 2020. >> honestly if you look at the trends today, i think by memorial day weekend we will largely have this coronavirus epidemic behind us. >> that was april 23rd 2020,

vice president of the united states mike pence, announcing to the entire world that from his perspective in the white house leading the covid white house task force thing that he was leading. the u.s. government point overseeing all aspects of the covid response from his perspective, his point of his of visibility, this covid thing is going to be totally behind this by next month. it will be over by me. now the pandemic obviously did not end in may 2020, when vice president pence said it would. but why did he say that? in fact it was not just mike pence, but president trump. and all these senior political appointees in the trump administration. repeatedly insisting over and over again, over months and months of suffering and debt that there wasn't too much to worry about because this whole covid thing was about to end. it was a blip, it was going to go away any day now, by me. why would they do that? why would they say?

that even all these months later, even now that we have a new president it remains one of the mysteries about the initial response to the covid pandemic in this country. with that we, is just why was genuinely bad but also why it was specifically weird in the way that it was. you may also remember how obsessed president trump was with the drug hydroxychloroquine. he would get up by covid briefing what a miracle hydroxychloroquine was. he talked about it like it was a cure or like it was the thing that could prevent you from getting covid. he recommended that people not only get it to treat their covid but if they got covid but they should take it preventively. even if you weren't sick, you should take a preventively to ward off getting the virus. and hydroxychloroquine is a real drug for real things, but not for covid. it was none of the things that the president said it was. why did he keep saying that? eventually the fda had to put out an official announcement telling people not to take hydroxychloroquine to treat or prevent covid.

because it doesn't treat or prevent covid. and in fact taking it can be dangerous. last year the speaker of the house announced that she would perform select committee in congress to investigate what went wrong in the national response to covid. what went wrong in the trump administration. as they filled so badly in their initial response to the pandemic and the united states became the worst hit country in the world. in terms of the pandemic. with that committee has started to turn of information not just about how the response to the pandemic was structured but also why we may have got down some of those very weird who [inaudible] . just last week that committee turned up something new with somebody who is not previously known to have advised the white house coronavirus response. his name is doctor steven hatfill he is a virologist. in february 2020 he started working with the white house trade representative, peter on

the pandemic response. which is why as the congressional investigation was continuing on looking into the u.s. government response in the first year of covid, the doctor stephen had fills name started popping up all over the place even though he sort of never has been publicly declared in the public response. and you can see in this guy's correspondence that the committee has dug so far, that that kind of -- his involvement with the white house tracks with some of those otherwise inexplicable bizarre decisions of public pronouncements made by the trump administration around covid. for example, i'll show you this one. this is an email from doctor steven hatfill to peter navarro, dated may of last year. so right before memorial day. he writes quote, i've been working on tracking down some israeli data indicating that this coronavirus thing may have now essentially run its eight week course in most of the united states. genetic bottlenecking of the

virus may be underway now. >> again that's me 2020, dr. steven hatfill advising the white house covid response, even though no one knows that he is, telling his white house supervisor. this whole thing is almost over. looks like we're about to be done. in another email that same month doctor we steven hatfill forwards a yet to be really study on hydroxychloroquine with a study that had not come out yet. a study that would prove once and for all that hydroxychloroquine would greatly improve survival for covid patients. and look at how he and his email quote >> if fauci and steven hahn edit the fda had done their job 30,000 less people would have died. they have blood in their hands. will he means there is 30,000 americans died because doctor fauci and we stephen hahn did not support the solution to hydroxychloroquine. >> i should tell you this name

rings a bell stephen harmful did have a high-profile turn in the news in a totally unrelated scandal 20 years ago a legitimate national security crisis in 2001 five people were killed after a string of letters were sent to news outlets and congressional offices containing in 3x powder. in the course of investigation who sent those letters the attorney general of the united states name stephen helpful as a person of interest in steven had phil the antarctic that was never formally accused of any wrongdoing, never charged with any crime, he was exonerated. steven hatfill said he violated his privacy by being identified as a potential perpetrator of the anthrax attacks. he got more than $4 million when the lawsuit was settled. so that's this previous turn in the public eye for steven hatfill, totally unrelated to this. but because of that it was all around we are to see this guy

turn up in these emails that the house committee started releasing last week as part of their investigation. frankly, they generated more questions than answers. why was steven hatfill advising the covid response in the white house? why was it never announced publicly? what was the extent of his role? what exactly did he advise the white house to do? tonight we have something new to add to that. the house committee investigating the trump response to covid has unearthed new documents regarding steven hatfill and his time at the white house. these have not been made public, you are seeing them here for the first time and in these new emails we get a better picture of just how involved and ingrained inside the white house doctor steven hatfill seems to have been, as he was pushing these lies, about how hydroxychloroquine was the solution to covid and how the epidemic was going to end and burn itself out.

this one is from february 2020, when doctor hatfield started devising white house. it says, good morning, mate, got my first good night sleep in over a week. never met big don, that's how you think it is, i have never seen anything like this. they say, okay, what is next step, i give my opinion, it gets run through somebody else, i've never seen anything like it. unreal. i never knew the government could move so fast, it's unbelievable, 100% adrenaline rush. another email we can report on tonight shows that in april of last year, dr. hatful received an email from the white house office of personnel, he was surprised by this and called the email unexpected. as far as we can tell, steven hatfill we've never hired in a formal capacity. he continues to refer to himself as an unpaid volunteer.

what was that all about? we can also show more evidence tonight, released to us by the committee, of not only doctor steven hatfill pushing the idea that hydroxychloroquine was a miracle cure for covid, but that quack advice was being received at the highest levels. the fda warned everyone to stay away from hydroxychloroquine but here is doctor steven hatfill writing to the chief of staff, mark meadows. he says to mark meadows that trump has been grossly missed advised on the proper pandemic response to covid. he says that both doctor anthony fauci and dr. stephen hahn need to be fired immediately. and he offered his advice on what the country and president should do instead, which includes, naturally, drumroll please, the outpatient and prophylactic use of hydroxychloroquine with zinc

supplementation. that must be the u.s. covid strategy from here on out. fire fauci, fire the head of the fda and instead moved to a national hydroxychloroquine and zinc response. he says that other countries are doing this. he says those countries have been able to rapidly bring their localized covid outbreaks under control in a matter of 14 days and that's why those other countries have not had major outbreaks. he says it is, quote, necessary to reaffirmed that the widespread outpatient use of hydroxychloroquine is the only way to control the outbreak at this time. again, this is last fall. so where did this guy come from? how did he get into the white house to be advising them on the covid response? why is he talking to the white house chief of staff that he must fire the top infectious disease doctor in the u.s. government, fire the top scientists overseeing the white house administration scientific

response and that instead the white house should instead be passing out hydroxychloroquine and zinc and pets dispensers? that's what's needs to be america's response. and by the way, the epidemic will disappear in time. why did that happen? why that guy? we learned one of the thing about doctor steven hatfill in these documents. t it appears that by looking at these documents, from the house investigation, that steven hatfill portfolio expanded beyond in the final months of the trump administration. again, he is an unnamed but apparently quite connected adviser telling the white house that the epidemic would end on its own, all we need to do is give everyone hydroxychloroquine and fire fauci. that's what he is doing for months when he brags to his months that he is working seven days a week, 365 days a year, working there for months and that that's all he's doing.

but here is november 9th, days after the presidential election. you see in this email, white house proof, proof in quotes. he tells a friend he is going to arizona for a few weeks for election stuff. why is a virologist advising the white house on covid, going to arizona for election stuff? also, what proof is this about? december 12th, we get another email from this virologist, advising the u.s. government on covid response. the subject of this one is, planned before trump legal fight. the email says, for rudy. our plan b following the supreme court decision of friday evening. this is his legal advice, as a virologist, on how to get the supreme court to overturn the election results and keep trump in power. two days later, december 14th, dr. steven hatfill since his supervisor, peter navarro, a

link to what he calls the natural expert on detecting fraud in ballots. the link takes you to the guy who invented the handheld qcard scanner, the guy from the arizona fake election audit? -- the virologist is advising on the cure, that the epidemic will end. he is hooking up with the -- detecting cat scratch fever in your election results. one more? the day after that. dr. steven hatfill emails a white house policy analyst, five words, could this possibly be true? it includes a link, which takes you to a tweeting out of this conspiracy theory, of how joe biden's family owns dominion

voting systems, secretly. and so for that reason the entire election is null and void. and this white house official response to the virologist, oh, bleep, i will look into that. omg. omg. couple of weeks later, a friend writes to dr. steven hatfill and asks him why are you not fixing the virus? he responds, because the election thing is out of control, i go where my team goes, i watched him for four weeks and then i started to help. i have a small talent for some of this. upon discovering an outline of what happens in nevada. this is changing second by second, i have to admit it's excitingly addictive. then he says, hydroxychloroquine is on the backburner until this fight takes over. meaning this fight to overturn the election results is over, because he is advocating that the u.s. should stop responding to covid and just give everyone hydroxychloroquine, he's

transitioning from that to how to the truth about, you know, the biden family owning the election machines. and so check with the cat guy! what was this guy doing, truly? why was he a white house adviser on covid in the first place? how did he turn into a helping hand in the fight to overturn the election? we reached out to dr. steven hatfill and have not heard back. but the house investigation that has dug out this correspondence, they want more information on this as well. we can report that first here tonight that the house committee that is investigating the response to covid, that they have issued a subpoena to dr. steven hatfill on his time advising the trump white house. the committee asked him to first voluntarily documents in april and sit for a transcribed interview. the committee tells us that so far dr. steven hatfill refused to cooperate and otherwise minimized his involvement in

the covid response, in a way that appears to be contradicted by the documents that have turned up already. and so they have therefore sent the subpoena for documents. like i told you, when it rains, it pours. and in this case, with a story, it does feel like it's the beginning of the story. joining us now is congressman jamie raskin, congressman for maryland. he sits on the select subcommittee. he's also a member of the january 6th select committee. you are a busy man, congressman raskin, at the best of times. thanks for being with. us >> i'm delighted to be here, rachel. >> it's a lot of news to get through. we are breaking some tonight here for the first time. let me ask you, based on your role, have i misstated any of this or gotten any of this wrong? >> believe it or not, everything you have said about dr. steven hatfill is consistent with what we have been able to learn from different sources. we have sent him this subpoena because we want the documents

he has. we are talking about a virologist who was working, he said, ten hours a day, seven days a week, on covid-19. he was enthusiastically talking about the hydroxychloroquine cure for covid-19. he's an active vaccine skeptic. he was urging the firing of doctor fauci and pretty much everything he said was, at least parallel to what president trump ended up saying. it would be interesting to know which way the influence was flowing, back and forth. but he was clearly someone who was meaningfully involved in their covid-19 efforts. and i use that word in a very liberal way. but what is curious about him is that he was also a political actor, and as you are saying, at the end, he began to range far and wide, in trump's

entourage and activities. this included being delegated to go out to arizona to work on their efforts to spread the big lie out there. and try to overturn the 2020 election. so the public health of america was in the hands of people like this, because he was classified as a volunteer, rather than actually put on staff. he did not have to go through ethics review. and that means there was no conflict of interest check into any of his private activities. >> one of the other things that does stick out, going through these documents today, is that while he appears to have downplayed to the committee his role in the coronavirus response, he certainly played it up in his correspondence too many of the people he was emailing with. talking and bragging about how influential he was, how much time he was spending. that this had become a more than full-time job. as you mention, while he was classified as, formally, a

volunteer, i guess he never went through the vetting and disclosure processes that you have to go through to be a more formal white house adviser or employee. but he does say, in some of these documents, that he has an email address that cites him in the executive office of the president. is it in fact clear whether or not he was in fact, officially, attached to the white house into the trump administration? >> it is not entirely clear. it's possible that he was put on the [inaudible] but we don't know at this point. he is using private email to conduct government business, outside the rules, but perhaps he was put on the government payroll at some point and we just don't know that. so there are a lot of mysterious facts here that need to be cleared up. we should be able to get to the bottom of this. i have a real affinity to what

we are going through, with the january 6th select committee. basically, there are lots of people who declare themselves to be public servants, people trying to render service to the country. and they should continue to render service that the country by turning over all information and this is where we are january 6th. it should be considered not only a duty to people who want information about the violent attack, on january 6th, to turn over that information. he should be considered an honor. it should be considered a privilege. and i certainly am a presidents -- hope the president would turn over the information. that he has given us too much to hope for. well on that january six investigation as i hope and i mentioned at the top you are on the committee that it's investigating the coronavirus crisis. you are also on the january six investigation committee, and the subpoenas that went out tonight to steve bannon, white

house chief of staff mark meadows mark, daniel scavino who was a communications to the president and kashyap patel who ended up at the highest levels of the pentagon in late stages of the trump administration, those subpoenas from the january six investigation to represent a sort of acceleration, taking up of the intestine sea of your investigation. i want to ask if we should expect those to be the first of many subpoenas. are these four really at the center of the bull's-eye in terms of who you're hoping to hear from? >> no i think that you will find that there will be other subpoenas were coming, we're collecting a lot of information from emails, facebook posting, twitter postings, we have millions of pieces of evidence that have already flowed into. and a lot of this was televised in recorded. and so if any of these people think that we're somehow going

to escape undetected, big got something else coming. and they really should cooperate at this point of our investigation by giving us all of the information they have about the attack on congress. there were more than 140 officers of capitol police on the police department who were seriously injured, broken noses, broken arms, broken ribs, broken lakes, traumatic brain injuries. we have a dozen and dozens of people suffering from post traumatic stress syndrome, right now, and for the first time in american history they delayed the counting of [inaudible] by four or five hours. and this was the most massive violent assault on the workings of congress on on the u.s. capital since the war 1812 and 1814. so how in the world could high-ranking government officials want to hide information for relevant documents that he or she might have about what took place?

i mean that's an astounding thing to consider. >> mailing congressman jamie raskin sits on the committee for the coronavirus and the selected committee that is investigating the january 6th attack, a lot of news from both of those committees tonight. thank you for your diligence as a member of congress putting it all the extracurricular activities that can be done as a member of congress right now, thank you for your time tonight for being with. us >> and thank you rachel. >> appreciate it, we've got much more to get to tonight, busy night, stay with us. h us to help keep the gum seal tight. new parodontax active gum repair toothpaste. on ancestry i discovered more about my great-great-grandfather baptiste caretto. ancestry threads all of the little facts together into a narrative so you get to feel like you're walking the same path they did. together into a narrative so you get to feel like hey lily, i need a new wireless plan for my business,

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pennsylvania. as i mentioned, when it rains it pours. and in tonight's news we have interesting new developments around this one. republicans in pennsylvania have voted as part of this investigation that they want to subpoena fairly intrusive personal records from every single voter in the state. if you voted in pennsylvania republicans there are demanded by subpoena from every single voter in the state your full name, your date of birth, your full address, your drivers license number, near partial social security number. you comfortable with them having that? do you know what they're going to do with that once they get it? the democrats in the pennsylvania senate quickly filed a lawsuit against the republicans to try and stop the subpoenas from going out. but, just tonight, something new. the attorney general of the state of pennsylvania has now also filed suit against the republican-led senate committee that is conducting this election investigation. along with the chairman of that

committee and the republican leader of the state said it all in an effort to stop the subpoenas to get all the state on everybody who voted in the state. want to read to something about how the lawsuit starts. quote pennsylvania stated to have constitutionally guaranteed rights to free and fair elections and to the protection of their personal information. both fundamental rights are threatened by the abuse of power at the center of this case. the commonwealth of pennsylvania, the department of state and acting secretary of the commonwealth, bring this action to protect 9 million pennsylvania voted from an unlawful attempt to subpoena and share with unknown third parties, their private information. pennsylvania states and its inter governmental operations committee has demanded voters private information, not to conduct a good faith investigation or to further secure pennsylvania's elections, but instead to pursue a disproven narrative deciding to undermine faith in the results of pennsylvania's 2020 presidential election. throughout the election the purposes remain the same, to placate former president trump as its political base and

propagate his false allegations while avoiding the embarrassment that resulted in previous efforts to provide evidence of voter fraud that does not exist. >> the lawsuit not only says it is unlawful for pennsylvania republicans to subpoena all this sensitive and identifying personal information from all the voters in the state, but the attorney general is also warning that the republicans really have not been very forthcoming about what they are going to do with this information once they get it, or who else they're going to give it to. quote >> the chairman of the election committee senator josh would not rule out retaining vendors association with former trump campaign lawyer sydney powell. or those who have worked for candidates in the elections under investigation. >> this also tonight again from the pennsylvania state attorney general, is asking the courts to declare these republican subpoenas invalid and unenforceable. essentially trying to choke off this pennsylvania effort to do

what arizona has done over all these period of months. joining us now is pennsylvania attorney general josh shapiro, mr. general thank you for making time to us i know it's a busy night. >> think good to be with you rachel thanks. >> is it clear to you why this want this information about all the voters in your state? >> i think what's clear is that they continue to perpetuate the big lie. i think what's clear is that in doing so they not only been lying to their constituents, but now they are putting 9 million pennsylvanians at risk of having their private information compromised. they're violating their constitutional right to privacy, they're trying to have a chilling effect on our election. are also makes clear, we will not let them get away with it. >> it is surprising to me given how provocative this request is in the republican subpoena, or the demand in the republican subpoena, and they must know that voters across the state are not going to watch all of

this personal identifying information handed over to an investigation in the state legislature. but given that, knowing how provocative it must be, they don't have an explanation. as you write in your lawsuit, they don't have any explanation as to what they are going to do, or who else they might give it to. is it your belief or do you think it's possible that what they are intending to do, is to hand it over to a cyber ninjas outfit? or some other kind of vendor who they are going to hire to do this work? >> the chairman of the committee who we sued for his conduct, remain clear that it is their intention to take the private personal information, social security number, drivers license numbers, and alike, and take all of that information, 9 million pennsylvanians, and handed over to a third party and indeed upon questioning the chairman to ask whether that their party could for example be associated with sydney

powell. the now disgraced discredited attorney for the former president. that the indicated that could be a possibility. and association of hers could receive that. look, as the states top lawyer, we have prosecuted and investigated cases of data breach, in fact we lead the national investigation into equifax. that's a company that had control and yet people's data were still compromised. here to turn over to some third like cyber ninja, somebody associated with sidney paul puts peoples information at risk and raises all kinds of legal questions. that's why we went to court today, and that's why we simply will not let these republican leaders get away with this. >> can you tell me about the decision why you just shows to bring this suit, in addition to the entire committee and the chairman of the committee that's inducting this, why did you include the republican leader in the state senate?

the republican senate as a defended here? why was that important to your kate? >> because the republican leader is trying to orchestrate this sham. indeed he brought back the fact that he checked with donald trump before instructing this chairman to go forward with his effort. he is involved with this. look, this is who the modern-day republican party is. these politicians who issued and back the subpoenas, including the leader of the state senate, they have sold out pennsylvanian's who value small government who valued their privacy to fuel ally and to undermine the way they run elections, and have run elections for generation. and they're doing it because rachel, they believe that their own power is more important than your constitutional right. that's what this is all about. >> pennsylvania attorney general josh shapiro, who again has brought suit tonight against this republican-led investigation in the

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of winning. this smart voting app, a key part of the organizing effort, was a key part of the effort to oust putin from the kremlin. they created this app, helping people coordinate their votes in a strategic way. but this was the headline in the new york times on friday, as the election opened up in russia. quote, google and apple, under pressure from russia, remove voting app. apple and google removed in-app meant to coordinate protests voting in this weekend's russian elections, a blow to opponents of vladimir putin. it disappeared from the technology platforms as is voting got underway. putin's government pressured apple and google to take this navalny app out of the app store, and they caved. that was not the end of it, in terms of the caving. over the weekend, as russians voted, google also blocked videos, google owns youtube. google blocked youtube videos that navalny's allies posted on

youtube to, again, coordinate the smart voting strategy. they blocked those videos at the request and demand of putin's government. well now, bloomberg news reports that employees of google are increasingly upset about the company's repeated and consequential capitulation to russian threats. staff members complained over the weekend about google's decision in internal forms and on a message board, that has served as a breeding ground for protest in the company. google spoofed its corporate creed about prioritizing users. one picture depicts a man reading a magazine below the slogan, putin the user first. putting these your first? putin the user first. since its formation, google has used the motto to make information universally accessible and useful. one name image being circulated by employees despite a map of the world where the russian voting app was allowed. every country was marked,

universally accessible, except for russia, where the image just read, useful. today alexei navalny himself weighed in, tweeting from prison, quote, something surprised me in the last elections. it was not how putin forge the results but how obediently the almighty big tech turned into his accomplices. the giants apple and google of complied, removing the app. my beloved youtube has deleted the video. these programs, which putin calls extremist, only contained information about opposition candidates and their constituencies. the information put competitive pressure and was declared criminal. this means it recognize the right of an authoritarian thief to subjugate the internet, turning it into an instrument for seizure of power. joining us now is reporter mark oregon, who has been covering the story for bloomberg technology, and helped write the story about google technology employees and their

disquiet over the matter. great to be with you. >> thanks for having me. >> so you cover these things more closely than i do, let me just ask if i misconstrued anything or missed anything important. >> no, that sounds spot on. the memes, it sounds kind of trivial but it is a messaging board where there are trivial things posted, but memegen is also a place where, if you'll remember, google employees also processed their plans to reenter china with the search engine there, and this was subsequently not renewed by google. and google has not gone into china. so google employees have been powerful forces in the past few years. that being said, a lot of their organizing potential inside the company has had a significant clamp down on its. so far, they are not having so many positions around. they are not --

it will be interesting to see how long this goes on. to see if they respond. >> no two situations are the same but the political situations adapting to different countries and their leadership adapts overtime and changes. so i don't think you can say there is a direct apples to apples comparison. but with that caveat, the sort of pressure that russia put on both google and apple here, is that the kind of pressure that google and apple have previously resisted? and now they are caving? or was this some sort of new upping of the game where they really had no choice? and they are employees should not have expected that they would take a courageous stand? >> i think there are two versions of this, in talking to both people inside and people who have been at the company. at the outset, google has not

given any official comment. as far as i know, others have reported that google not only had the threat of criminal charges, as you mentioned, but a rather explicit threat that their employees in russia would be harassed. i think that's why they took this down. and we had no other recourse. and they also argue that they are facing similar pressures in countries like india and vietnam and there are fair amount of countries that are becoming more aggressive about these controls. that being said, rewind ten years ago, 11 years ago, google rather famously left china. and it pulled its search engine, youtube was not there but a lot of its main services left the country. people came out and they started presenting this as, we are standing up to totalitarianism. in fact, sergei brynn, one of

google's cofounders, born in soviet russia, the one who publicly talked about the new york times, to the new york times about this. they found this a values based stand against dictatorship. so google has had this history of standing up for freedom of expression and the internet. and there's been a lot of employees there, current and former, that the current management has changed significantly from the past. >> briefly, if google did make a decision to not operate in russia because of this, if they pulled out of russia the way they pulled out of china, particularly if russia is saying you have to have employees here to operate, and by the way we will threaten to arrest them if you don't do what we want -- if they pulled out, would it cost them a lot of money? is russia big revenue generator? >> they don't disclose their revenue in russia. there are estimates that the country, from what i have seen, and google is primarily a

digital advertising company -- but russia is a little under four billion dollars in total advertising spending, to give you a sense. that is a small fragment of what's google is earning. youtube alone, just in the last quarter, made seven billion dollars. but youtube is a really interesting phenomenon, we are navalny found his beloved youtube. he and a lot of other opposition figures in russia have used youtube, we are state media has blocked them out. you can clearly continue to operate, google can just decide to not make any advertising on it. go out and say, we are providing this service to russians that we think is important. thus far, the company thinks it is of financial benefit to remain there, and that that is clearly outweighing the cost. >> unsustainable. [laughs] i will put that on you or ask you to respond, but to me this is unsustainable.

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tonight, we will see you again tomorrow night. which i have a feeling is going to be just as -- announce time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> good evening we have congressman joining us tonight on those subpoenas from the january six committee, fascinating hard-hitting fast subpoena schedules, you've got two weeks to give us the documents, a week afte