good day. this is "andrea mitchell reports" in washington with the house january 6 investigating committee is ramping up firing off subpoenas to four white house officials including the form earp chief of staffording them to give sworn depositions next month. trump chief of staff mark meadows, dan scavino, steve bannon and kash patel expected to fight the subpoenas with the former president already claiming executive privilege in a statement released overnight. on the coronavirus cdc director rochelle walensky will make her first public comments this hour about her decision overnight to allow doctors, nurses and teachers to receive pfizer boosters along with senior citizens and other high-risk individuals. in a rare reversal of an

advisory panel's recommendation that the third shots be restricted to fewer people. this morning president biden touting the progress on vaccinations while tens of thousands of moderna and johnson & johnson recipients await word on getting their third shot. >> you still have a high degree of protection. our doctors and scientists are working day and night to analyze the data from those two organizations on whether and when you need a booster shot and we'll provide updates as the process moves ahead. and just moments ago on capitol hill, house democrats voting to defend women's right to choose in response to the restrictive texas law banning abortions after six weeks of pregnancy. they did it with just enough votes, 218 votes. i'll speak to california congresswoman jackie speier about that vote. and this hour we'll bring you my exclusive interview with iran's new foreign minister, his first with anyone in the american media. the future of nuclear

negotiations after president trump pulled out the 2015 joint agreement. those talks have been stalled since june. for more on the congressional subpoenas, nbc capitol hill correspondent leigh ann caldwell with jonathan lemire, michael steele and jim macena, president of obama's presidential campaign. we have breaking news on the abortion vote. do they expect the four individuals to give testimony or will this be a long legal battle? >> andrea, probably a long, protracted legal battle. it was interesting the strategy. committee members said they were asking people to come and be deposed or submit documents who they think will cooperate for the people they think will not

cooperation they are skipping that step of asking and going to subpoena. we saw the first tranche with those four people close to the former president and expect many more subpoenas in the coming days and weeks. something that's also really interesting to me it's not just for a deposition, the committee wants records and data from these individuals as well. they gave them a deadline of one week to turn over those documents. i was speaking with representative raskin and he said while they are important he thinks the main component will be all of the data and all of the records they are asking for. he says he trusts the data more than what these people, should they come to the committee and talk anyway, what they are going to say.

>> michael steele, this is not just a normal procedure. we saw what the impeachment committee, both instances, they gave invitations to top officials. took two years to be told he has to testify. they're not messing around and they did this over the long recess and had real details. this is not just a fishing expedition. they had dates and times at the willard hotel. >> we are 180 degrees from when subpoenas were being issued and requested, appearances, and the administration could effectively go, yeah, make us. now you have clearly the members of this committee, the leadership of the committee, have learned from what has happened in the past and is much

more proactive, taking it much more seriously and is emphasizing, oh, you will appear, we are going to enforce these subpoenas. we will get the data that we want. and so this idea that you had president trump, former president trump putting out i'm declaring executive privilege, you don't get to make that call. that's a call made by the current president of the united states. the dynamics have changed 180 degrees for all of these folks you see on the screen and i think the reality for them now is how do they try to gum this up as much as they can through legal process? at the end of the day it's hard to overcome a subpoena. like every citizen in the country when you are so summoned, you must appear. >> they can, of course, take the fifth amendment and all sorts of

other legal rights. a lawyer i'm not but i think i've covered enough of these hearings to know what kind of things can happen. by the way, kash patel is not just some guy. he's a key figure. he was at the time the chief of staff at the pentagon. one of the top officials there and very instrumental, it's believed,a lot of the decision making on the delay and getting the national guard approved. along with michael flynn's brother, also a general. there's a lot that he can say. he had been there since december and there were some attempts to get him and others changed and get rid of the cia director. jim, let's talk about the conspiracy theories and what happened last night in arizona when they finally complete that had so-called fake audit, the circus audit, that cost a ton of money including $20 million to replace all the voting machines

because they had improperly seized the voting machines, breaking the chain of custody, so they had to buy all new voting machines for this year's elections. -- for the next elections, for the midterm elections. they learned that arizona did go to joe biden after all. jim what does this prove? >> you're exactly right. it's a typical trump clown show, right? after spending millions and millions of dollars trump tries to deflect on the january 6 subpoenas. everyone watch arizona tomorrow. we're finally get news everyone should watch. well, his highly respected auditors came back and said joe biden won even more than we previously thought. and so we wasted millions and millions of dollars, a terrible process going through this. lots of americans thought this was a rigged election when it clearly wasn't. and exactly as we saw in

wisconsin in november now we see in arizona that joe biden won these states, won them relatively handily in a close election and none of this was true. president trump, once again, has egg on his face and looks like the clown he is after saying it would be this big news. joe biden is the president of the united states. >> and so many republicans, according to our pollings don't believe it and we're already seeing in texas and pennsylvania -- texas last night, that they're going to do these so-called fake audits. pennsylvania joe biden won by 80,000 votes. no democrat is arguing about whether or not donald trump won texas. but, jonathan lemire, let's turn to president biden because he took some questions today in a hurried fashion announcing that

cdc decision overnight. as you know the cdc director overruled the advisory panel which did not give the go-ahead for everyone to get it. so the president did that today. but last night our colleague peter alexander pressed the president on a lot of setbacks on a number of fronts. watch. >> you came into office on a message of competence and unity. we've witnessed what's happened in the country over the course of the last several months. what do you say to americans who say you have not delivered on that promise? >> remember, i said it's going to take me a year to deliver everything i'm looking at. part of it is dealing with the panoply of things that landed on my plate. i'm not complaining. it's just the reality. here's the deal, this is going to end up, i believe, we're going to end up getting both the pieces of my economic legislation. >> so that, of course, was today, about an hour ago or so. and, jonathan, it was

interesting to me that peter really asked a tough question, he went through a litany of all the things that went wrong and the president was very calm and deliberative in his answer. >> well, first, andrea, president trump has set a record four times losing arizona. white house aides acknowledge this has been a bit of a tough stretch. they have a quiet confidence the president will get his agenda done. the president himself used the word stalemate where things are with fellow democrats, the divide between progressives and moderates is such there hasn't been a deal yet in the house on the infrastructure deal or either body of congress on the reconciliation package which is $3.5 trillion but most people expect will shrink and there are deadlines on the horizon. house speaker pelosi wants a vote on monday. congress grappling with the debt ceiling and potential government shutdown. the president said that he

believes progress has been made in terms of the covid relief bill. he believes this legislation will get done. he was sharply critical of the scenes at the border with the haitian migrants and border agents on horseback. and there is the covid pandemic. he touted the ruling about boosters and suggested that pool of americans will expand in the coming weeks and months. but just in the last few minutes, andrea, there's another reminder how covid is with us everywhere. vice president harris was set to give her first sitdown interview with "the view" and just before she came on stage two of the hosts were pulled from the set because they tested positive. they were vaccinated and seemed to be find. the vice president did the interview remotely. on a dap the president is touting progress against the virus, the pandemic is very much still with us. >> wow. that's incredible because that show is live in many locations

including here in new york where it is taped for playback in other areas of the country. that is extraordinary for her to be going on "the view" and trying to reach a different kind of audience. that must have been quite the scene, jonathan. jim messina, i just want to get back, also, to the effect on the president's polling where he's really taken a hit as the messy withdrawal from afghanistan began taking a toll, but it's really covid. after a very successful rollout of vaccinations when they first took over but promising it will be done by july 4th and promising by last week, by the beginning of this week, i should say, by monday they would be able to do the booster shots. they have not yet been approved by the cdc. there have been some hiccups and

then the delta variant. >> you're exactly right. the american public wants this coronavirus thing over. they want it over months ago. the fact that it's not, when you're the president of the united states, you get the blame whether it's fair or not. and i would say a couple things, you know how i feel about polling. most polling is garbage especially this far out from an election. president biden's poll numbers are still way above where president trump's ever were. but he has gone down a little bit and that's a reason for some people to panic. it just makes it kind of, to your point, it was interesting to see biden's answer because he is calm about these things. he is calm that he can deliver the things he promised to get it done and is about to get two pieces of legislation that should help solve some of these concerns. dealing with covid problems and variants that are unlikely to go away soon and part that have is a communications challenge the

president of the united states has to deal with. when i was in the white house what you realized is every single day something comes to the white house that is so messed up no one else in government can fix it and they dump it on the white house's lap and say, here, it's yours. that's kind of what the president is doing. >> and, of course, just two days ago, trying to get his own caucus in shape. >> michael steele, they are scheduling a key vote on the debt ceiling on monday and on continuing the government. chuck schumer saying they will deal with that in the senate and they've got a lot of work to be done in committee on the house side over the weekend. can the president pull this one out? >> good question. a lot of folks around town, especially our colleagues covering this on the hill, you

know, scratching their head going, i don't know. i don't see it. but there is something about the way nancy pelosi and joe biden have combined to mix the sauce when they need it to be mixed at the right moment in the right way. and soap i suspect if there is a movement to a vote on monday, nancy pelosi, one of the better -- if not one of the best nose counters and vote counters on the hill, if she doesn't have that vote, they're not going to move forward on that. it also puts republicans in a very sticky position. as history has shown over the last 10 to 15 years, we've not come out on the better end of this argument when we play hardball up against the democrats on the debt ceiling. it will be interesting to watch what happens. >> by the way, michael, someone we know well, karen bass, is going to run for mayor of los angeles. she's going to leave congress.

she was, of course, the house point person for a full year doing everything she could and was in the running to be the vice presidential running mate. very interesting she will be running. she has deep roots and that will be an interesting contest. thanks to all of you, leigh ann caldwell, michael steele, jim messina and jonathan lemire. and here in new york the talks aimed at destroying the iran nuclear deal held in vienna have been joined since june. secretary of state tony blinken here for u.n. meetings warned thursday night the u.s. would not wait indefinitely for an agreement saying tehran's nuclear advances could become irreversible. in the first interview iran's new government has done with anyone in the american news media, iran's top diplomat, their foreign minister,

responded. sitting down with me here last night taking a firm stance about returning to the nuclear deal known as the gcpoa saying they would return some time soon unless -- they would not return, rather, unless the u.s. first lifts sanctions. your president said iran would return to the talks within weeks. is that a firm commitment? >> translator: we do not have the opportunity nor the time to sit in meetings simply to drink coffee with one another. what is important for us are tangible results. results that guarantee the rights and benefits of the iranian nation. >> secretary blinken said today time is not indefinite for the

two sides. would you pick it up where they left off? >> translator: so the reality of the matter is that for years we have not obtained any benefit from the jcpoa. however, we are reviewing seriously and we are assessing and i can tell you that we have had many meetings and we will keep the window of diplomacy and negotiations open and we will very soon return to the negotiations. >> well, the u.s. side has wanted direct talks. iran was insisting on indirect talks. do you think it's time to have direct talks so you can better

assess what the administration wants for yourself? >> translator: president biden was and is criticizing the behavior of his predecessor mr. trump, vis-a-vis iran, but at the same time the volume of the file of sanctions that mr. trump built against iran is being carried carefully by mr. biden. so if you are seriously pursuing negotiations what is the meaning of piling up new sanctions? this is a negative sign signal to iran. >> is time running out for iran's willingness to go back to the jcpoa, the nuclear agreement? >> translator: we believe that diplomacy always works. however, if other parts do not return to the fulfillment of their commitments, we will not

remain in the deal and keep fulfilling our side of the bargain. >> at least four americans are currently imprisoned in iran including a father and son detained back in february 2016. in talks in vienna separate from the nuclear talks, iran was believed to be close to a prisoner swap with the allies for iranians held in the u.s. to exchange prisoners. when i asked the new foreign minister if they would consider picking up on that deal believed to be close although iranian diplomats always caveat that their judiciary is technically in charge of prisoner releases. here is his response. during the previous talks in vienna they were parallel talks about a possible prisoner swap. could those talks be picked up where they left off? is a prisoner swap a possibility? >> translator: we see a prisoner swap and its potential as a purely humanitarian issue.

we can reach an agreement on the prisoner swap and act on it. >> and this would include both mr. namazi who is currently in prison in iran? >> translator: from a humanitarian viewpoint we will do our best in order to follow through where is needed playing a role in bringing about the freedom of those detained. >> on another subject iranian general soleimani was killed in a drone attack ordered by president trump. he was long on the list of terrorists and the pentagon said he had been actively developing plans to attack americans in iraq and throughout the region when he was struck down. i asked iran's foreign minister about soleimani with whom he was very close.

do you consider that matter closed? you reportedly were very close to soleimani. do you still want to avenge his death or do you consider the matter closed? >> translator: from our viewpoint, the file, so to speak, will not be closed. those who were the perpetrators and carried out that act of terrorism against the national hero and the champion of iran in the fight against terrorism must be brought to justice. >> of course you know that he was considered a terrorist by the united states? that assassination was carried out -- that attack was carried out by the previous administration. >> translator: in my opinion, the individual or individuals who gave the initial command for

this act of terror, they are the true terrorists. >> and on another subject as first reported by "the washington post" this morning, nbc news has confirmed reports that the cia has recalled its top officer from vienna for mismanagement including the handling of the so-called havana syndrome, according to my sources. vienna is considered one of the agency's most important posts, and the embassy there has seen the second largest number of cases of this mysterious ailment. nbc news has previously reported that as many as 200 cases are now being investigated in u.s. posts in every continent except antarctica since it was discovered in 2016. earlier this week it was reported the state department's official in charge of handling the mysterious illness left after six months following complaints from sufferers who said the ambassador raised doubts about the illness during a teleconference with its victims. in contrast it has been made a

top priority since taking office appointing a veteran analyst who had led the hunt for osama bin laden to lead this effort. and coming up next, democrats celebrating a major abortion rights vote that just passed the house. jackie speier among the chief supporters, and she joins me next. stay with us. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. nbc. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ just two pills for all day pain relief. aleve it, and see what's possible. psst! psst! allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! flonase all good. in business, setbacks change everything. so get comcast business internet

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just moments ago the house in a 218-211 vote just passed a bill to codify roe v. wade into law, to prevent it, theoretically, from it being overturned by local actions by the states. this is a major step by democrats to try to protect abortion rights on a federal level after republicans in texas put in place a near total ban on the procedure. joining me now is california democratic congresswoman jackie speier who serves on the house

oversight committee. of course the big question is what's going to happen in the senate? is there any chance this would get through the senate? i should point out it is well known about ten years ago you became the first member of congress to share your abortion story on the house floor. i think you did it more recently than that, but how did you feel presiding over the floor debate today when this was passed? >> andrea, it was a very important day for women in america. 90% of the counties in america there isn't even access to abortion services and over the course of the last ten years we've seen 500 laws passed to restrict abortion rights which is -- that's protected in the constitution by the decision of roe versus wade so that women have the ability, the freedom to

make the decision in conjunction with their families and their physicians as to whether or not to terminate a pregnancy. what's been happening over these last ten years are efforts to criminalize this activity and to control women. and this is a major step for women across the country by passing this today, but we have, unfortunately, the likes of the texas law that not only is horrific in that it basically prevents any kind of an abortion at any time, but it now has incentivized bounty hunters to go after persons who would provide any kind of a service whether it was drive them to the clinic or provide counseling to them, and they would receive a cash reward of $10,000 for doing that. it is frightening to think how far and how extreme some of

these members of these state legislatures will go. >> i referred to the fact the senate is unlikely to pass this. i know this is a real marker and it could be a rallying cry. obviously it's a big mid-term issue already. what you are now facing is a mississippi argument that's been scheduled in the supreme court which is a 15 week, not the 6 weeks, but 15 weeks and supporters of the right to choose as a very restrictive law before, of course, we saw the texas law. the hand writing it many feel for those who want the right to at least have an abortion, we know how difficult it is for women and it's poorly understood by a lot of people. we recently saw something in the press room when jen psaki was asked about it by a male reporter and said very tartly i know you've never had this experience but no woman who is going through this does it

lightly. we're really facing a critical year in the supreme court. >> we are indeed and it has been a litmus test certainly under donald trump to make sure that those that he appointed would be willing to overturn roe versus wade. i will tell you that 25% of the women in this country have had an abortion. it is a medical process. it's a medical procedure. the american medical association says it is part of providing health to women. and i think that we're going to see an uprising like we've never seen before if we do not codify this law that has been passed in the house now, and we're going to call upon our senate colleagues to do that. and they can do that by narrowing the filibuster so that, in fact, under circumstances that affect the health and welfare of women,

that they could, in fact, get rid of the filibuster. that would put us in a position to pass it in the senate. >> i just want to share with you while you've been busy working on the hill, i'm sure you haven't had a chance to see this, about kamala harris was to appear live on "the view" and was slightly altered because two of the four hosts tested positive today. so they had to go off camera, and they did the interview with her backstage but it was broadcast live. again, just another example of how the pandemic has overtaken everyone's lives in all walks of life. the vice president was asked about the fight ahead on abortion rights. i want to play a bit of this from "the view" today. >> we are going to stand together unified and fight for women's constitutional rights to make decisions about their own body. >> that's just a brief clip, but congresswoman speier, there's been so much said about this for

decades and it had been agreed by the court it was settled law, it was precedent, but now we see the direction that it's taking. it has to be codified legislatively. >> i think there's no question that codifying it is, in fact, the rallying cry. and that's what you're going to see around this country as we make the case that it's about the freedom of a woman to make that decision in conjunction with her family and her doctor, that we have got to stop criminalizing this. i said on the house floor today how is it that a man can put his sperm into a woman's body and then walk away with no consequences, but a woman then is going to be controlled by that man or men to take that pregnancy to term? so it's time for us to join the 21st century. >> and, in fact, in the texas

law there is no exclusion for rape or incest, which makes it even that much more extreme. as you point out, we're just talking about the right to make your own decision. we're not talking in favor of or against abortion or any such thing here. it's just a medical human right for women to control their own bodies is the issue by advocates of that right to choose. against, of course, the argument that life begins at conception and certainly with the fetal heartbeat according to this law. six weeks is before most women even know that they're pregnant and, of course, women of means will find ways to get this done or to go out of state. especially in a state as large as texas where distances are so vast, low-income women do not have that option. >> that's correct. >> let me briefly answer because we're going to have to switch -- we're going to switch to the covid response team with the cdc director walensky. i'm sorry to cut off our very

timely conversation. thank you so much, congresswoman jackie speier for being with us today. and the covid response team with cdc director walensky. >> nearly 10,000 hospitalizations and almost 2,000 deaths. the vast majority of these cases and deaths reflected in these reports are people who are unvaccinated. vaccination provides the best possible protection against covid-19 infections, severe disease, hospitalization and death. cdc data continue to show the power of vaccination with recent reports showing a five fold reduction and the risk of infection, tenfold in the risk of hospitalization and 11 fold reduction in the risk of death after vaccination. yesterday we took an important first step in our vaccine booster program. as part of the process over the past few days cdc's advisory committee on immunization practices met to discuss the fda

emergency use authorization of booster doses of the pfizer biontech vaccine. they met, as they often have during this pandemic, in a moment of great importance of health to many americans analyzing the complex real-time data available to make concrete recommendations. their task was not easy and their resulting hours long discussion reflected the tension of the moment between an individual calculation of risk and benefit and the impact on society. i listened intently to all of it. i heard a diversity of opinions and perspectives, and i applaud the committee's commitment to an open and transparent scientific process. following their vote, i fully endorsed acip, the committee's recommendations, that all people 65 and older and those 50 to 64 years old with underlying medical conditions should receive a pfizer booster shot if they received a pfizer primary series.

i also endorsed the recommendation to allow 18 to 49-year-olds with underlying medical conditions to receive a pfizer booster shot. these recommendations will help strengthen protection against severe disease in those populations who are at high risk of severe complications from covid-19. at the conclusion of the meeting the advisory committee had a robust discussion about whether boosters should be available for those at high risk of covid because of occupational or institutional risk. people like health care workers, teachers, frontline responders, essential workers and those in congregate settings. the result of their discussion was a close vote. had i been in the room and on the committee i would have voted yes and that is reflected in my resulting decision to allow the use of pfizer biontech covid-19 booster dose for those 18 and older at high risk of covid-19 exposure and transmission because of occupational and institutional exposure.

as cdc director it's my job to recognize where our actions can have the greatest impact. we often take steps with the intention to do the greatest good even in an uncertain environment and that is what i'm doing with these recommendations. over the past 18 months we have experienced a pandemic that has an impact on various parts of our country. those on the front lines,classrooms, and crowded settings who have put themselves in harm's way on a daily basis. to protest those at greatest risk, our initial vaccine rollout prioritizes these individuals. our health care systems are once again at maximum capacity in parts of the country. our teachers are facing uncertainty as they walk into the classroom and i must do what i can to preserve the health across our nation. i'm also aware of the disproportionate impact this pandemic has had on racial and

ethnic minority communities. many of our frontline workers, essential workers and those in congregate settings come from communities already hardest hit. withholding access to boosters from them would worsen the inequities i have said i would fight. we said we would follow the regulatory and scientific processes. and over the last month we have done exactly that. scientists at fda, cdc and across the country and the world have pored over the data. for those greater than 65, those at high risk for disease because of underlying medical conditions and those at high risk of exposure and transmission because of occupational risk reflected a balance of the safety and effectiveness data we have available and the need to

protect our society. it was a decision about providing rather than withholding access. i, too, thought of the current stressors and access and equity in my decision. cdc is making boosters available to these eligible groups and we will look at the data. we want to ensure people have the choice to take advantage of a tool that may be helpful to optimize their vaccine protection. as the delta variant continues to increase risk. it is a first step and we will continue to review new data on effectiveness and experience with the third shot as it becomes available. we suspect that we are seeing with existing data with those at greatest risk of occupational exposure will not be unique to only those populations. i'm committed to updating our guidance in real time and in collaboration with the

scientific community. acip and fda only reviewed data for the pfizer biontech vaccine. cdc did continue to monitor the safety and effectiveness of covid-19 vaccines to ensure appropriate recommendations to keep all americans safe. we will with similar urgency evaluate the available data in the coming weeks to swiftly make additional recommendations for other populations at risk and people who received moderna and j&j vaccines. while today's action was an initial step related to booster shots it will not distract us from our most important focus to get as many vaccinated. we will not boost our way out of this pandemic. infections among the unvaccinated continue to fuel this pandemic resulting in a rising number of cases, hospitalizations and deaths where people are unvaccinated.

the most vulnerable are those unvaccinated. i encourage you to get vaccinated to protect your community, your family and yourself. thank you. i will now turn things over to dr. fauci. >> thank you, dr. walensky. dr. walensky has delineated the third shot booster for people who received the pfizer regimen. i would like to show on this first slide to try to answer the third question what the third shot booster of the mrna vaccines do for the immune response and clinical effect. with regard to neutralizing antibodies, on this slide this is what the booster does for neutralizing titers against the delta variant. in green is the wild type variant. for comparison in blue is the

delta variant and you're looking at different age groups, 18 to 55 and 65 to 85. just concentrate for a moment on the blue. one month after dose two the titer was 241. it went up dramatically after dose three to 1,321. if one looks at the 65 to 85 it wept from 123 to 1479. that's laboratory data. let's look at clinical data. this is a study recently published in the "new england journal of medicine." in israel people aged 60 years or older who received a second dose of mrna at least five months earlier. 12 days or more after the third shot booster dose the rate of confirmed infection was lower in

the booster group than in the nonbooster group by a factor of 11.3 and the rate of severe illness was lower by a factor of 1.5. let's take a closer look at that slide. as can you see going from the left to the right are the days since the booster vaccination. and as you can see somewhere around 12 days from that third shot booster, you see an increase in protection against confirmed infection in the booster group compared with the nonbooster group. next slide. what about severe disease? here again in a study from israel individuals aged 60 or older and a per 100,000 population. on the left part of the slide unvaccinated in red those who have two doses of the mrna, 37,

compared to those who got two doses plus the booster down to 4. this is more dramatically demonstrated on the right-hand side part of the slide. when you look at the months of infection with severe disease, 175 unvaccinated, 37 of the people who got two doses and 4 with those who got the third boost. next slide. what about the kinds of effects you get when you get an injection of a vaccine? as shown highlighted in yellow in this observational study of over 1,600 individuals, again in israel, the local and systemic reactions following the third dose was similar to those reported following the second dose which is always more than the first dose but quite similar following the second dose.

next slide, to reiterate what dr. walensky said, we're talking about boosters but the fact is it's still extremely important for the unvaccinated individuals to get vaccinated. as dr. walensky said, i will repeat it because it's worth repeating, after delta became the most common variant a fully vaccinated person had a reduced risk of infection by five fold, hospitalizations greater than tenfold and death by greater than tenfold. with that i'll hand it over to dr. murphy. and joining us now dr. patel who served as health director and a brookings institution director. thank you so much. a lot of confusion and it's very unusual for the cdc director to overrule an advisory panel and do this overnight with the president rushing out today with his reaction which they expected

a speech earlier yesterday. it's good to get your third shot, right? >> andrea, yes. especially if you're over 65, long-term care facilities. they really do need the booster shot, but i think as we just cut out from the audio and visual, you still can take some assurances your first and second doses give you incredible protection even if you are eight months out. a lot of americans are from that second dose. >> and, in fact, what she pointed out was that she overruled them. she would have agreed with their proposals if she had been there but she felt that equity demanded taking the bigger step.

>> let me open it down. i will paraphrase for time. she opened with this passionate story about a 30-year-old pregnant icu nurse who has unvaccinated children at home. there's so much that we have to take and weighing those two things, the benefits and the risk as a cdc director. this has happened similarly. quickly getting them to reconvene so that they could change the language and their vote in line with what we needed. the director made the right decision. she's willing to take it. >> she has taken a lot of criticism along the way.

this has been a firing line. do you recommend to one of your high risk patients who had the moderna or j&j to get a pfizer booster or try to get moderna or whatever they've got? >> no, listen, vice president harris is in that boat because of their exposure. she should get a booster. i do think these are perfectly good. i wouldn't begrudge my patients for waiting. i want them to get that booster now because we are watching that data for that frail population. we are hearing that moderna which has already filed that american application that should be getting progress in the next

several weeks. the fda staff reiterated that as well. i would say wait but i'm looking at nursing home patients. health care workers and others. i do think they should get a pfizer booster if they got moderna. i'm in that category myself. >> would you only get pfizer or a third dose of moderna? >> the problem i would have we don't have -- if you're technically, just to be honest with you, moderna has filed for a reduced dose and there's a reason for that so i would be hesitant to say go out and get the third shot exactly like your first and second one. that tells me moderna has data -- we haven't seen it -- but caused them to reduce the dosage and recommendation possibly related to side effects, andrea. that's why saying that with pfizer where we know we have some data on the third shots and the moderna technology is similar to the pfizer technology and pfizer is fully approved so

doctors can use it in an off label way, that offers a pathway to be able to give that third shot of pfizer to even moderna recipients. >> you have made things perfectly clear in a very complicated situation. so much,. have a great weekend. >> thank you. and senate majority leader chuck schumer is setting up procedural vote on monday on is resolution to fund the u.s. government and suspend the debt ceiling. that vote will come three days before the deadline to revert a government shutdown which could cost a lot of money and be unnecessary. senate republicans are vowing that they will only pass a stand alone short-term funding bill, and will not work with democrats to raise the debt limit. joining me now, the democratic senator from hawaii who serves also on the armed services committee. i want to ask you a quick question about that coming up. first of all, you've got the deadline for the government running out of money completely

approaching. you also have that debt ceiling deadline. yellen and bipartisan group of former treasury secretaries appealing to the senate to please do your job. fund what has already been spent, including a lot of money under president trump. but mitch mcconnell has said no, what is the way around this? >> well, one thing mitch mcconnell knows full well and the republicans know full well what would happen if we don't extend and we don't let the government keep running, because mitch mcconnell was the -- the last long shutdown of 30 days and people were going to food banks. federal employees were going to food banks to get food, because they weren't getting paid. so mitch mcconnell knows the damage that would be done if our economy and our families if we have a government shutdown, and if we don't pay our debts. but he's willing to sit on his hands and all the republicans like lemmings are going to let him do it. so this says to me the republicans take no

responsibility and they don't care about the danger that are government shutdown will impose, and that we don't pay our debts as a country. but they are going to do it anyway. so yeah, everyone in america should know that this is the posture of the republicans. we are going to do everything we can to make sure that these bills pass. >> and let's talk about reconciliation and infrastructure and what's coming up. it's a real collision with the president's agenda at stake. do you believe that senators manchin and cinema might be willing to compromise on their stand against the large reconciliation package? what do you think their bottom line is? a question, of course, the president asks senator manchin face to face and on thursday the president was not -- i mean, margin was not willing to tell the president. >> what is very critical at this point is that i for one, and i think this is a posture shared by other democratic senators, is

that i'd like to hear from both joe and kerstin. what are the problematic areas? what are the parts of the agenda that they support, and then we can talk about how much money should go into whether it's extending the child tax credits or having the -- enabling families to afford child care, paid family leave, all of that. which of these areas do they support? then we can start talking about whether 3.5 trillion is not where they want to go in supporting these very specific programs. but we don't have that information from these two senators yet. that's what i'd like to see so we can proceed. >> is there enough time to meet the speaker's demand, promise, there's a vote on monday, or does that have to be pushed back? >> i don't think there's anything particularly magical about monday. i think the whole idea is that both of these bills, both the infrastructure bill that would

create jobs, and the american family plan, the build back better plan, will both proceed, and that is the deal. and i think the speaker has every intention of making sure both of these bills will pass. if monday is not the day that they do that, then so be it. but believe me, i have worked with the speaker and she knows how to count votes and knows how to get things done. >> and before we run out of time, i want to ask about the armed services committee hearing. a big hearing next week where you can have defense secretary austin, general mark milley, and, of course, general scott mackenzie, the leader in afghanistan, on presumably the afghanistan withdrawal. the evacuation, and that tragic mishap -- mishap is an understatement, the tragic killing of -- by the drone strike of seven children and three adults in the middle of kabul. >> this is going to be a very

critical hearing. we will hear from, of course, secretary austin and generals milley and mackenzie. i know that they know that they're going to be under the hot lights and a firing line. but what i want to hear from them is basically you know, the fact that we needed to get out of afghanistan. this 20-year war that resulted in our spending $300 million every single day for 20 years. i'd like to hear from them. it's really very much focussed on the evacuation, and the preparations et cetera. but at the same time, this is a 20-year war. i very much support as my colleagues senator duckworth has suggested, an independent commission to review the before, during, and after of this 20-year war. all of this didn't come to pass in the last year. you know? and so i'd like to see us really investigate and assess the

entire war and lessons to be learned. >> well, senator, it's a busy day. thanks very much for being with us. >> thank you. >> have a very good weekend to you. >> and that does it for this friday edition of "andrea mitchell reports". stay tuned tonight on nbc nightly news on more for my exclusive interview with the iranian foreign minister, and follow us online on facebook and twitter@mitchell reports. up next, garrett haake is in for chuck todd. is in for chuck todd before nexium 24hr, anna could only imagine a comfortable night's sleep without frequent heartburn waking her up. now, that dream... . ...is her reality. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts, for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? bogeys on your six, limu.

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if it's friday, the administration's top health officials briefed the public after the president are just some 20 million americans to get a booster shot now. what it means for the country's fight against the pandemic ahead. plus speaker pelosi tells democrats they will vote on the president's infrastructure bill and that huge reconciliation bill next week. but does she have the votes for either to pass? we'll speak with the leader of the congressional progressive congress ahead. and later, the investigation into the january 6th insurrection heats up. as the house select committee issues subpoenas to four former trump officials. they want infor