if it's friday, the administration's top health officials briefed the public after the president are just some 20 million americans to get a booster shot now. what it means for the country's fight against the pandemic ahead. plus speaker pelosi tells democrats they will vote on the president's infrastructure bill and that huge reconciliation bill next week. but does she have the votes for either to pass? we'll speak with the leader of the congressional progressive congress ahead. and later, the investigation into the january 6th insurrection heats up. as the house select committee issues subpoenas to four former trump officials. they want information from some

of his closest advisers. will they get it? welcome to "meet the press daily". i'm garrett haake. as the white house faces a numb of political crises and tries to salvage the agenda on capitol hill, we begin with breaking news on the ongoing struggle against the pandemic. right now the coronavirus task force is briefing the public after the cdc announced it's formally recommending a third dose to the pfizer vaccine for anyone over the age of 65, or anyone under the age of 18 with an underlying medical condition and anyone over 18 who faces increased risk due to where they work or live. the eligibility kick in for those individuals six months after their second dose. the president said this effectively means around 20 million americans are eligible for a third dose right now. and another 40 million or so americans will be eligible in the coming days and weeks.

>> like your first and second shot, the booster shot is free and easily accessible. booster shots will be available in 80,000 locations including over 40,000 pharmacies nationwide. so my message today is this. if you've got the pfizer vaccine in january, february, or march of this year, and you're over 65 years of age, go get the booster. or if you have a medical condition like diabetes or you're a frontline worker like a health care worker or a teacher, you can get a free booster now. >> this announcement comes amid a lot of confusion, and mixed messages from the white house about the booster shot plan. remember, back in august, the president said he wanted all vaccinated americans to start getting booster shots this week. but the fda and the cdc didn't agree. there were disagreements within the cdc about today's

recommendations as well. the director overruled some of the suggestions from the agency's advisory committee which wanted more limits on the eligibility requirements. and as far as we can tell, a cdc chief overruling that panel has only ever happened one time ever. moments ago she defended that decision, saying it was her job as cdc director to take action that would protect as many people as possible from a public health standpoint. what this means for the country's fight against the pandemic, for the tens of millions of americans who are eligible for a booster and for everyone else who isn't eligible yet, well, those are obviously huge questions. and perhaps larger still, for the administration is what this means for its political prognosis as the president struggles to contain a number of crises and avoid legislative land mines here in washington. joining me now from the white house is monica alba, and heidi

, and also founding director of boston center for emerging disease policy and research. monica, i'll start with you. back in august the president told the public he'd have a plan for booster shots for all americans vaccinated. today's announcement, obviously, represents just a fraction of those americans. it's clearly from progress but not the grand step the white house wanted. are they satisfied across town that this movement meets the moment? >> well, the white house is absolutely aware that time is precious here. and that was the message from the president. that those who got their shots if it was pfizer in january, february, march, that six-month protection and the waning immunity has already started to dip. so he encouraged everybody who is in that category, most of whom are health care workers or the elderly, to make sure they go to their pharmacy or health care providers as early as today to get that extra layer of

protection. the president was also clear here on a message he has been delivering for months ever since we saw the spike in the delta surge which is the highest priority for this administration is to get the unvaccinated vaccinated. and boosters while great extra doses that they're happy about being able to supply are not their highest priority. they still want to chip away at the millions and millions who haven't rolled up their sleeves yet. but if you look at the percentage of the population that this will apply to, we're also talking about millions of people who have questions, including the president of the united states who will be getting his booster shot probably in the next couple of days. he's due for it as is the first lady since they both got the pfizer two-dose regimen all the way back in january. but the president's message today was really one he said about following the science and the data. they came under a ton of criticism for these mixed messaging, the missed deadlines. the white house had wanted a lot of this to be rolled out by

monday, september 20th. the white house is trying to defend that by saying this week we have the ability to extend it to a bigger portion of the population than it was a week ago. so they feel they can take a little bit of credit for that, but what the president didn't address is this remarkable move by the cdc director in a midnight reversal and decision to contradict her own advisory panel. that has added to a lot of the confusion from the biden administration about just what's happening with booster shots. but overall, the president wanted to stress it's the unvaccinated that are hurting our health and our economic recovery, and that's really where his attention is right now. he said more than anything else, and more than these boosters. >> well, the idea that they're following the data is interesting. obviously the majority of that cdc advisory panel didn't agree with that. does the white house see any political benefit here to just being able to give vaccinated americans who are so frustrated with their unvaccinated

counterparts something, something to do. something that will make them feel better and say there is still more they are doing to try to protect them? >> yes. and i think a big part of this is also they know there are people who are already doing this without the green light ahead of them. in fact, my colleague peter alexander presented that exact question to the president. what is your message to these millions of americans who are showing up and getting their third doses when they may not even qualify, when they may not have been told by a doctor they should do it. when before today, they didn't necessarily have that approval to go forward and do that. and the president said, i think it's probably better to wait your turn, but now also the white house is leaving this open to a bit of an honor system. people are going to have to attest for themselves whether they fall into some of these categories that are a little bit more nebulous like being a high risk exposure worker. somebody not just the traditional grocery stores or in hospital settings or teachers. we're talking about a way larger pool of people who maybe feel they have a lot of exposure or

come into contact with people who would want to get those shots and the president and the white house aren't saying we're going to make sure that you have some proof of that. they're saying it's going to be up to each and every one individual, and they do feel that's important, because they want to give people that ability to act on their own if they are frustrated by their unvaccinated neighbors for themselves to have extra protection. absolutely. >> heidi, you're in arlington, virginia where the rubber meets the road on this plan. what are you seeing about how it's being put into action and how are they preparing for the vaccinated folks to start coming back for one more? >> yeah. garrett, on the other side of the potomac, they may be debating confusion and criticism about messaging but here in arlington, they say they're breathing a sigh of relief, especially among those age 65 and older. many of them were vaccinated at first chance in january, february. we know from the data their antibodies are waning. their grandchildren are back in

school, unvaccinated. holidays are approaching. there's relief among them and health care workers. we spoke earlier with one of the chief medical officers in arlington county. he said look, in contrast to last time where we saw the long cues. people had to wait weeks and even months, this time we have huge capacity and infrastructure already in place. the large auditorium here. we are ready. here's what he said. >> we've already seen about 600 individuals come through where their physicians recommended a third dose to be added to the series. and we've got about 77% of arlington people with one dose of a vaccine. we are expecting to see a fairly high demand. so we rely on folks to self-certify that they have an underlying medical condition much like we did in the initial stages of vaccine rollout. >> i also asked him how he felt about walinski overruling the board. he gave a big grin and said it was the right decision. you cannot underestimate just

how fatigued the nation's health care workers are to the point where we're even seeing potential empathy deficit among them having to take care of unvaccinated individuals. the only complication, i can see happening here is not right now. because there's nobody in there. they have the capacity just like jeff science said. the only issue would be if people are really abusing it and we start to see really long lines, people who need to get either their first dose or second dose or immune compromised people not able to get in and get appointments. otherwise, it's a really warm reception here. >> doctor, let's start there. it seems like this is almost the honor system. nobody at your local cvs or the safeway pharmacy is going to tell you you're not immune compromised or your job isn't actually dangerous enough to get this shot. did the cdc just functionally approve a back door booster shot for anybody who decides they

really want one? >> i think this is a much broader population. and i actually agree with others who have said the expansion the cdc director did to include high risk was probably the right move partly because in that category, yes, there might be people who interpret the more loosely and may be able to access vaccines. when you look at essential workers like health care workers or teachers, part of the reason the committee, the advisory committee was cautioning against and putting in a booster recommendation for this group is because they were saying look, the protection against severe disease and hospitalization is still there. really, it's just protection against infection. we don't know how long it would last with the boosters but with the essential workers, i think it's necessary to -- they're around other vulnerable people, and so i think it was a good move from that perspective. i think it's also a good move. by aligning with the fda recommendations the day before,

you're creating less confusion. this has been a roller coaster, because you're really just -- the public is so interested in all the procedures. they're seeing all the ups and downs and not only that, but in general the data is coming. we're having to make decisions on different vaccines. whatever we can do to reduce the confusion, even if it means a few more people may interpret this more loosely is probably the best way to go from a public health perspective. >> the general public has never watched the messy work of approvals being done in this way. we heard the cdc director today defending her decision to override those recommendations from the advisory panel. i want to play for you some of what she said. >> i want to be very clear that i did not overrule an advisory committee. i listened to the comments on the votes, and this was a scientific closed call. in that situation, it was my call to make. >> all right. an advisory committee advises. right?

for people who are not part of the medical community who have not paid attention to how these things are done, how surprising sit to see the cdc director to make a decision at odds with the panel? should that make people concerned or start smelling politics? what do you make of that? >> yeah. it's rare. as you mentioned, this happened one other time in recent times around smallpox, i believe. and the -- but i don't -- these are not normal times. right? and i think that there are -- because of all the reasons we talked about, the fact that there is a public health emergency, the fact that it was a close call. the fact that data is evolving, i wouldn't necessarily jump to the fact that this could be something political. i think that we do want to continue to honor the advisory committees, because that is what is showing the independence of this science. however, many people even outside that advisory committee, myself and others listening to it said, well, that's kind of a

head scratcher that someone who might be a smoker own is young in their 20s might be able to get a shot of them. what about health care workers exposed all the time? but i think it was the right move. i think there's going to be continued confusion, though, and i think we're going to need -- we need all these groups to get in line for better communication, because you are going to see moderna go up with the valuation. the current boosters are only applicable to those who got vaccines six months out. johnson & johnson, i predict probably everybody who had that might be recommended to get a second booster because there's evidence that might help. and so there's just going to be so much more confusion down the road that we just need to -- need these groups to be better aligned and better communication out there. >> doctor, quickly, big picture here. wide angle. how much of an impact on the overall pandemic in this country do you see the booster shots having, and will it be on transmission, total number of cases? will it be on keeping people who

do get the virus out of hospitals? >> i think majority of the benefit is still from the first doses. if you are vaccinated, right now, even with the delta variant, you are five times less likely to get this infection. you're over ten times less likely to get hospitalized or pass away from this disease. really the health care -- the overwhelming number of people in the hospital, still the unvaccinated. there might be marginal additions. for those older with a decrease in immunity against hospitalization, you may see some improvement there. we don't have the data on how much this will help from transmission. vaccinated people don't have that much as unvaccinated. it may marginally help, but the first doses make the real difference. >> another wrinkle. hopefully we can start turning the colors on the map back a little bit lighter shade. thank you all. and coming up, why monday is looming large for democrats as they try to salvage president

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president biden acknowledged this morning that it may take some time to get his agenda through congress. take a listen. >> it's going to take some time here. and i know i always kid you when you all ask me about well, what about are you going to get a done, b done, c done? i say do you want to negotiate? i mean, i'm being a bit facetious, but here's the deal. this is going to end up, i believe, we're going to end up getting both the pieces of my economic legislation. >> joining me now is my capitol hill colleague to walk us through some of this. the speaker says votes on both bills will happen next week even as the president says the agenda needs time. where are we are? are we look agent votes that will fail or get delayed? what do we know? >> garrett, this is a highly ambitious timeline from speaker pelosi. she's caught in a situation

where she's made a promise to hold a vote on monday. the rule the house approved is fierily ironclad that it needs to happen. she's moving forward with that. one of the things she's trying to do to get the reticent progressives on board is say fine, have that vote on monday but also sometime next week on that massive multitrillion dollar reconciliation package. now, that reconciliation bill is not currently ready for prime time. there's a text of it nearly 2500 pages that is headed for a markup in the budget committee. it faces a host of divisions in the house and more divisions between democrats in the house and the senate. it has not been signed off on, and the vote is not locked in the house. there's sket schism among democrats the multitrillion dollar bill could pass the house next week. that's the position, the reason progressives are are still threatening to vote down the infrastructure bill. at this moment, they're working on a compressed timeline. democrats are. and it's certainly a possibility that that infrastructure bill

fails next week. >> that's the house deadline looming over there. we expect the democrat's plan a to get killed by republicans on monday. what does plan b look like? are senate democrats making any movements suggesting they're going to try to work on the debt ceiling through some kind of reconciliation? >> not that i can see. it's possible secretly they're considering a plan b. the democrats voted in 2017 when republicans had full control. they were using reconciliation for their tax cut which added to the deficit. they didn't put a debt limit increase in that. they used the government funding process, continuing resolution to add a debt limit exfengs. now the democrats insist the republicans should do the same thing. mitch mcconnell has said no.

democrats will have to decide what comes next. they can make moves to put this in reconciliation. that could be a messy, complicated process. some democratic sources that we've talked to doubt they'll be able to do it in time. they can do something more extraordinary like a filibuster carveout that triggers the nuclear option to change the rules. we know some democrats are not in favor of that. one way or another, they have to get it done to avoid a catastrophic economic calamity. >> super secret plan b discussions are any least favorite. >> i want to turn to one of the key players. the chair of the house progressive caucus. we learned in the last couple hours from speaker pelosi there will be, she says, a reconciliation vote next week. we'll see a markup this weekend. you'll be working long hours. is a promise of a reconciliation vote enough to get progressives to a yes on the bipartisan infrastructure bill first? >> hi, garrett. it's great to see you.

no. that won't be enough. but we really do support pelosi's, the speaker's efforts to move the reconciliation bill along. just because there are some final pieces that need to be put together. in order to say this is the vision that we have for reconciliation bill, for the build back better act. i'm looking forward to going into budget markup. the discussions are continuing behind the scenes, privately, with the white house, with the senate, with the white house, with some of us interchamber conversations. we're going to get both the bills done. that's my firm belief. that's what i said to the president the other day. the progressives, frankly, have had the president's back from the very beginning. this is the build back better agenda that the president laid out to congress many, many months ago. back in february. and we have been saying we're not leaving one part of the agenda behind and giving up on the idea of child care, paid leave, community college, health

care. these are things that people will feel immediately along with making sure that we address immigration and that we address climate change. these are critical priorities for the democratic agenda. so we will get the reconciliation bill as close as we can, but the conversations, obviously, have to be with the senate. there's no point in just saying the house will pass. we've always said we need to preconference it. >> let's talk about that. i mean, what does that effort look like? i was struck by the fact that the white house meetings, this week, we had the from pro greszives in one meeting. the moderates in another meeting. when are you and joe manchin and kerstin cinema going to sit down in a room together and have this conversation directly? >> well, i'm very happy to do that. and actually, there have been those -- the beginnings of that starting to happen. so i think let's -- >> what does that mean? what are the beginnings of the conversations? is somebody sending somebody an outlook invite or what's going on? >> yeah. we've got requests to have the meetings.

so we're happy to do that. and they will get scheduled very soon. look, my thing is that we've got to understand the bipartisan infrastructure negotiations, remember, when they were supposed to be done one week and then that week stretched to another week and another week? >> oh, yes. >> you were there every step of the way. but the reality is we just need a little bit more time. i don't think we need a lot of thiem, but we do need a little more time and the urgency, and so there's no point in monday is an arbitrary date. it could be moved easily, because the reality is the bill coming up and not having the votes is not something that the speaker will be willing to do, and we don't have the votes for it. so let's just finish -- let's remember we're all part of the same team. this is the president's democratic agenda. and we're all democrats. so let's just finish this. get the reconciliation bill done as was agreed on in the senate when the senators voted for the bipartisan infrastructure bill.

they did so on the condition that this exact thing that we're saying right now is what happens. the reconciliation bill passes and then we'll be happy to vote for the infrastructure bill. >> i've noticed that you and bernie sanders who is obviously the progressive kind of chachonning this on the senate side have taken slightly different tones in talking about the reconciliation bill. you talk about continuing the want to negotiate. i don't have to tell you, you're not going to be able to negotiate up from 3.5 trillion. it seems to me any further negotiations probably mean this bill in some ways get smaller. i understand there's no priority you want to see let go. i noted you told andrea mitchell the idea of maybe changing the time frame for some of the programs is perhaps where you see potential movement here. can you talk to me about what it looks like if in that meeting with joe manchin and kiersten cinema, the price tag has to come down for them to be on board? do you see that by adjusting the

program? you want to get all the programs into action, but maybe some for six years, not ten. is that how you see this progressing? >> when i say i want to keep negotiating, it means we've put on the table our vision. and what the president said the other day that he asked the group that came in to the white house before us to give him was what is it you're for? we've heard a lot about what people are against. what i want to know is okay, if you -- if you -- if you don't like something in the bill, what is it? is it child care? is it health care? what is it that you want to take out? because the number is sort of arbitrary. in fact, i think i said this to you the other day. this is a $0 bill. i heard the president say this today, because i made it clear to him. i thought we needed to start talking about the fact that this is all paid for. with taxes on the wealthiest individuals and the largest corporations paying their fair share. there's a $0 bill. the question is not what is the price tag.

the question is what do you want to do, and we put forward our vision. if there's something you don't like, tell me what it is. i want to hear it. and that's what i think these conversations need to be about. >> we have been trying to chase manchin away around all. now he's talking about means testing different elements to the package. is that something that progressives could be comfortable with if different elements have to be means tested in some way based on income or what have you? >> look, this is going to be a discussion. right? it's not going to be like one person says this is what i want. this is going to have to be a discussion. what i would say is on all of these programs, and we saw this with the rental assistance program. the easier we make it, the quicker the money gets out. the quicker people get benefits. i have 60,000 people in my district right now who didn't get that rental assistance and are facing eviction, because we make it so complicated to even figure out who gets to do it,

what exemptions apply. to me, the means testing is it's really a question of how quickly do you want to get the money out, and how many people do you want to be able to benefit? so that doesn't make sense to me to put a bunch of requirements on there or even exemptions for that matter. you have to fill out a 25-page form that takes three and a half hours if you have someone to help you and you happen to speak english. there's all kinds of ways we need to simplify and make programs universal and make sure that people feel the benefit quickly. because the need is urgent. that's what we should be focussed on. >> you said when we started talking that this is the president's program. it's the president's agenda. you want to support both of these pieces. but do you worry at all as you see his polling numbers start to slip in some places, he said today he doesn't worry about this. that in the midterms, your majority, the chance that the democrats will maintain control of the house, you're kind of only as strong as the president of your party. and if this starts to fall apart

or if it starts to look like it can't get done, you're cutting off your nose to spite your face, and not giving some victory to keep everybody afloat here? >> i don't worry about that. i'll tell you why. to me what we need to worry about is voters for the first time in a very long time delivered us the house, senate, and the white house. on a democratic agenda that we ran onto really change people's lives and opportunities. that is what the build back better agenda is. the president delivered on his word when he said this is my agenda. if we don't deliver on that, then we will have a problem next year in the elections. if we show people that government matters, that democracies matter, that people's lives matter, that it's not just about big pharma and big corporations that are lobbying against all of these things but it's actually about a government that cares about whether you can get college, whether you can get pre-k child care, health care, whether we can take on the wildfires or

floods burning and rushing through the country, these are the things people want to see us do. if we don't do those things, garrett, then we will lose next year. so that's why i think the president said he's not worried. because this is the agenda that he promised, and we will deliver on it. we are this close. so i believe we will. and we'll come together. >> i'm watching the timeline get longer in realtime as we're having this conversation. congresswoman, we have to leave it there. if you need a big room for the meeting with joe manchin and kiersten cinema, we can pull up additional chairs. we'll bring snacks. it will be fun. >> i know you're going to be at the capitol all weekend long with me. >> we don't need to talk about that right now. thank you very much. a bit of midterm news before we go to break. we've now got an answer to one of the questions that many of us who cover capitol hill have been asking for a while. yes, chuck grassley is running for reelection in iowa.

at 88 he's the oldest republican senator announced his candidacy for an eighth term in a tweet this morning. he won his first elected office in iowa in 1958. perhaps in an effort to prebutt questions about his age, the announcement tweet featured a gif of the senator out for a morning run. this is a seat democrats were hoping to flip but with grassley on the ballot, that gets a lot more difficult. up next, a new development in the investigation into the january 6th insurrection at the capitol as four former trump insiders get subpoenaed. poubena. you'd never want leftover food residue on your surfaces. but that's what you could be doing with a used dishcloth. so, switch to bounty for a more hygienic clean. unlike used dishcloths that can redistribute residue, bounty keeps your surfaces cleaner. bounty, the quicker picker upper.

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analyst. carol, trump used executive privilege pretty widely to quash about any m testimony while he was in office. does he have that option now as a former president? >> that's an excellent question. and i think what a lot of people might be surprised to hear is the questions have not definitively been answered by the court. the executive privilege is not a constitutional guaranteed privilege. it's something that has evolved over time by congress and by the courts. and the -- and although the courts have sort of nipped at the edges of it. a lot of the basic questions have not been answered yet. so this question in particular, the one you asked about whether a former president can assert executive privilege to shield documents and testimony that relate to his time in office is still not resolved yet. when you talk about this kind of issue, the president's inner circle and the assertion of

executive privilege, it will not be decided until it gets to the supreme court. so it's a very good question and not yet decided. >> so you sort of answered my next question. even with don mcgahn who testified, that took two years. what are the odds any of these people are in a deposition in october? >> i'd say the odds of that are extremely slim. as you noted, garrett, the former president has already indicated he's going to fight this on executive privilege grounds. there's a lot of work that has to be done by the parties, by their lawyers, and by the courts. so there's a lot that remains to be done, but it's best to think of these subpoenas as not the end of a process but actually the beginning of a process. there is going to be a lot of litigation. we've seen it takes about two years. that's what we've seen in the past, and i think that's where we're headed unless there's some sort of resolution among the parties and some sort of

compromise. >> it's interesting, because that obviously lengthens the scope of this committee's work in past the midterms potentially, whether this committee even exists anymore. if republicans can take control of congress. i think it's an open question. what about steve bannon in particular? he's a former white house official. rather, ig gnomes youly fired by trump early in the administration. how can the former president say this guy is so valuable as an adviser he can't speak after firing him and trashing him on twitter for three years? >> a good question. this is one of the areas that the courts are being called onto deal with, and they're going to have to deal with it, because steve bannon was not an official government adviser in any way during this period of time. and over the communications that former president trump wants to claim executive privilege over. so again, that's going to be one of the key questions that needs to be answered. and it's going to require some

litigation. you know, garrett, i think a lot of people don't realize that courts don't want to deal with these issues. they don't want to get involved with making serious decisions about how broad the executive privilege is. they will go so far as to urge the parties and they did this in the hair yet meyers litigation years ago. they said you -- they said i don't want to make this decision, and you don't me to make this decision. you should go and negotiate and find some kind of accommodation where you can satisfy both of your interests, because both parties know that whatever happens in this administration may be held against them and used against them in the next administration. so that's the concern that the parties have to keep in mind. >> you know, the precedent part of this is something i'm sure we'll be talking more about in the future. carol ann, thank you very much. and up next, that makeshift migrant camp in del rio, texas

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robert is haitian american. traveled from new york with supplies. >> some people get wait. some people die. it's very hard. >> reporter: he's helping migrants like jocelyn who decided to stay in mexico. >> he says he's got strength. he wants to work. >> reporter: across the border in texas, the del rio migrant camp continues to shrink this morning. homeland security officials say 3100 migrants remain there. still unclear, how many migrants have been released into the u.s. to seek asylum. dhs officials tell nbc news that number is in the thousands. and officials say nearly 1,950 migrants have been deported to haiti since sunday. that surge in deportations has prompted daniel foot to resign in protest calling the biden administration's decision to deport haitian migrants inhumane and counterproductive.

the state department saying the ambassador mischaracterized the circumstances of his resignation. the administration also announcing border patrol agents will no longer use horses at the del rio camp following the backlash over these images that appear to show agents on horse back using the reigns to block haitian migrants from entering the u.s. the white house says its met with civil rights leaders still under investigation. >> we feel the images are horrible. there's an investigation. the president certainly supports overseen by the department of homeland security which he has conveyed will happen quickly. >> thank you for that report. and up next, it's been almost a year since the 2020 election. but now yet another state is launching an audit of their election results. at the urging of former president trump. you're watching "meet the press daily". ♪♪

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fibers. joe biden came out on top in maricopa county, according to a draft of the findings obtained by nbc affiliate kpnx. nevertheless trump is pushing for more audits all over the country. he has pushed for an audit in texas, which announced an election audit in its four largest counties this morning, a state that trump won handily. jane, it's pretty much confirmed that the arizona audit will tell us exactly what we expected about the 2020 presidential election results. but the results don't really matter, right? that wasn't the point of this exercise, was it?

>> yes, and the actual hand count, election experts say, can't be trusted because of the processes they used to do it. they note humans are not really that good at counting ballots. it's why we use machines in a lot of our elections. i think it's important to the note that the draft, we have not actually seen, we don't know if it's going to come out exactly the same way, but we do know there are so many questions about the processes they've used. they've made a lot of allegations in this report that we're talking to experts about as we speak, that dead people voted, that people from out of state voted. while they come to the same conclusion as the official counting, it raises more questions than it answers, which is problematic, in that people who want to see those conspiracies will see those conspiracies. we're seeing that play out with trump allies, talking about illegal votes.

it's not going to put this to rest. >> it's problematic or it's the point if what you want to do is make people distrust any election where they don't win. let's talk about what's happening in texas. you've got republicans there agreeing to start their own audit. this was perhaps coincidental, perhaps, after former president trump called for one. talk about what he's asking for specifically and why texas where he and basically every other republican on the ballot overperformed. >> garrett, this really does feel like a propagation of what's happening in arizona in part because president donald trump specifically said enterprises a forensic audit. that term doesn't mean a whole lot to people who don't run election. a forensic audit is kind of a term that's been populated by partisans who want to say we want to go deeper and look at these things. the audit in texas, we don't know what it's going to look like, there really isn't a

secretary of state who can run this, the last secretary of state stepped down. the counties they chose, the largest counties, the urban areas, they have voter roll lists that are less tidy in part because people move more in cities. there's a lot of things they can dig into because they're completely normal, and make them look not normal. in a city people move a lot, you have multifamily homes. you'll definitely see some issues there. >> they didn't pick lubbock or abilene, they didn't pick the high plains. they picked the four biggest counties in the whole state. jane, if you're greg abbott sitting in austin, about to run for reelection next year, what does it say that the former president can reach down into your state party and say we're doing an audit and it happens? what does that do to inform what we're about to see in the midterms in texas?

>> the announcement will give republicans to cheer about. but they're playing with fire. garrett, you and i covered this election reform bill down in texas for months while democrats fought it. and republicans always said they're trying to prevent voter fraud, that they were not trying to stop it, that it wasn't happening. republican officials in texas have said the election went splendidly there, and they don't want to find fraud, i don't think, because that would contradict what they've already said. if you keep telling voters that it doesn't matter, that elections are fraudulent, it's questionable whether you can get them to turn out. >> as we learned from georgia. jane timm, thank you. if it's sunday, "meet the press" is on your local nbc news station. watch the "meet the press reports" marathon on peacock.

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good to be with you, i'm lindsey reiser. we begin this hour with breaking news. while it's not entirely unusual for a friday afternoon these days, what is unusual is that part of that breaking news is nearly a year old. joe biden won the 2020 election. donald trump lost. we've known that since november 7, 2020. but as you well know, trump and many of his backers have nonetheless continued to spread the big lie that the election was stolen via massive fraud including in the state of arizona. therefore it must come as a shock to the former president that the partisan audit of results in arizona's largest county, which was handpicked and financed by republicans, not only failed to findas