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a very good day to all of you, from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome to "alex witt reports." developing this hour, a critical week ahead for the white house and capitol hill as lawmakers work to passkey parts of president biden's agenda and avoid a government shutdown and raise the debt ceiling. speaker pelosi says democrats will move forward to pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill and the $3.5 trillion reconciliation package next week. next hour, the house budget committee will be holding a virtual markup on that reconciliation bill. democrats today stressing the urgency of getting these spending bills passed this week. >> if we fail to strike when the iron's hot, we are going to miss a once in a generation opportunity. >> failure's not an option, period. we need both bills. >> meanwhile, the white house says president biden will not shield donald trump's records from the house select committee

investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol. that comes as the committee ramps up its probe issuing subpoenas to some of donald trump's closest advisers. earlier today, democratic congressman hakeem jeffries confident they will appear before his colleagues next month. >> the trump administration of course refused to enforce these subpoenas at the department of justice level. we're hopeful that the biden department of justice following the rule of law will take a different approach and that will make all the difference in the world at making sure that these individuals are called to account for their behavior, and we can present the truth to the american people. >> and the results are finalized from the republican backed election audit in maricopa county, arizona. and it proves joe biden won maricopa county and the entire state. in fact, the los angeles times reports the audit shows biden won by 360 more votes than the

official certified results last year. but as one audit ends, another begins, texas is launching a forensic audit of the 2020 election in four counties after donald trump called on governor greg abbott to spearhead those efforts despite winning the state. state representative jasmine crockett told msnbc earlier today, this is not what the country needs right now. >> we have a duly sworn in president. this is a waste of time. we are still in the midst of a pandemic where we need to be focussing on getting out of it and spending all the moneys and resources we can to provide relief. >> we go beyond the headlines now with nbc's julie tsirken at the capitol, and monica alba at the white house. we're going to start with you, julie. where do things stand next week? how much can you sense any unanimity among them? >> reporter: alex, i don't need to tell you how busy next week is going to be.

speaker pelosi remains adamant they will take up that $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure plan on monday. there's also the government funding deadline on wednesday that they're up against. so it's going to be a critical week here in congress, but here's where things get sticky. moderates and progressives could not be further apart. not just on what they're looking for in the reconciliation package, not just on what they want to spend, what they want to spend it on, but when they want to spend it. you heard from senator manchin after that meeting at the white house, president biden convened in which he said he doesn't even think this needs to happen this year. and he's not alone in the senate or the house with that thinking. but despite all of that, democrats control the house, the senate, and the white house, and they know they need to get this done. here's what congresswoman debbie dingell, a democrat from michigan said on our air this morning. >> we have to get both bills. you can't have one without the other. we've got to get both of the bills. in my book, failure is not an option, and we're going to have to figure it out, and every democrat needs to know that

because there will be trouble. >> reporter: she's absolutely right, i think most people in congress, most democrats would agree with her, they need to get this done in order to make good on president biden's promise, which by the way, he understands most of all that he is here to unify washington, to make government work. and if he can't figure out a way to steer democrats and bring those two groups together on these bills, then it's going to be a big uphill battle for him as we head into 2022, and democrats risk losing their very tight margin to republicans. now, we're also looking at the government funding deadline, like i mentioned, which is september 30th. democrats in the senate are going to take up that short-term spending bill that will provide them a little more wiggle room to squabble over the details. the debt limit is a part of that. republicans already said they're not going to support that. democrats have to figure out a pathway forward, once that bill, the procedural vote on that bill inevitably fails on monday. >> okay.

julie, thank you so much for that. let's go from there to monica alba at the white house. why is president biden choosing to release trump's white house documents despite trump's cries of executive privilege. >> reporter: this is a really interesting case, alex, because it centers on something that happened while former president trump was in office, but the current president, joe biden is the one who gets to decide what happens to this information that the committees are seeking as they continue their investigation into the capital riot attacks. we know these subpoenas are already in full motion for former trump allies. president trump has rejected this saying he's going to try to somehow assert executive privilege, but the situation here really is such that the current president can do that and traditionally some sitting ones have shielded their predecessors from this kind of information. but the white house, according to press secretary jen psaki is saying this is a very different situation because americans deserve to know what happened on

january 6th, the days leading up to it, and what role potentially the current administration then on january 6th, the former trump administration played in it, so take a listen to why jen psaki says this moment is different and why they aren't inclined to assert that executive privilege on former president trump's behalf. >> i would say that we take this matter incredibly seriously. the president has already concluded that it would not be appropriate to assert executive privilege and so we will respond promptly to these questions as they arise, and certainly as they come up from congress, and certainly we have been working closely with congressional committees and others as they work to get to the bottom of what happened on january 6th, an incredibly dark day in our democracy. . >> so it's important to note that the white house is saying this isn't their blanket policy, they're going to take things on a case by case basis. she didn't want to get ahead of

any hypotheticals yesterday when pressed on this. this is their overarching stance, which gives you a pretty good idea, and just to broaden this out and give people perspective here, alex, we already know that in terms of the request, this has to do with meetings, logs, what everyone in the former president's orbit was doing in and around january 6th, not just related to the four that we already know there are subpoenas for in terms of his former chief of staff and other close allies, but also his adult children at the time, even the first lady, others who were closely in contact with him. this has a lot of different tentacles going into a lot of different people, what they were doing. the white house again is saying we're not necessarily saying we're going to do this for everybody, but they do believe and argue, at least jen psaki did from the podium yesterday, that this information is so critical that people have a right to know what happened in the days leading up to it and whether the former president did incite that insurrection, which is of course what the committee is trying to get to the bottom

of, alex. >> absolutely. all right, thank you for that from the white house. we have breaking news to share, in the covid pandemic. a federal judge has temporarily blocked new york city schools from enforcing a vaccine mandate for those teachers days before it was set to begin. city officials say they expected the review and ruling to take place soon. they anticipate the mandate will ultimately be upheld. it comes as a new phase in the vaccination drive is underway across the country. booster shots are going into the arms of certain americans this weekend, but there are questions and there's some confusion that remains around all of it. let's go to nbc's kathy park here in new york city who's tasked with straightening it all out for us. kathy, from you the process let's talk about that, the concerns about the confusion out there, and what do you know about this breaking news as well, just came down a couple of hours ago that apparently teachers, at least at this point, do not have to be vaccinated before getting back into class?

>> reporter: hey, alex, good afternoon. there is certainly a lot to unpack. i will start with just the booster rollout, and obviously that was a big turning point, and health officials are saying that more than 20 million americans are now cleared to receive a pfizer booster, and we're standing in front of a cvs pharmacy, and nearly 6,000 cvs pharmacies are accepting appointments to administer these pfizer boosters and several other major pharmacies are also doing the same thing. as far as that confuse, you know, up until this point, there was a lot of back and forth when it comes to boosters, and it was just punctuated just the other day with the cdc director rochelle walensky breaking from the cdc advisory guidance and expanding the eligibility list for people who are qualified moving forward to receive these boosters, and now this includes people who are on the front lines and who are at higher risk of catching the virus. so this includes health care workers as well as teachers. here is a little bit more about her defending that decision.

take a listen. >> many of our front line workers, essential workers and those in congregate settings come from communities that have already been hardest hit, withholding access for boosters from these people and communities would only worsen the inequities that i have committed to fight against. >> reporter: and alex, you know, you talked about some of the developing news coming out of new york. there are a couple of things, so on monday, there is a looming deadline for health care workers to receive at least one dose of the vaccine, and right now there are thousands of health care workers who still haven't been vaccinated, so the concern is that there will be a potential shortage at a lot of hospitals, and governor kathy hochul issued a statement saying she is prepared in case there is an issue this week, she has notified members of the national guard to help, as needed with people from out of state with medical backgrounds to help and

fill the void if needed. you also mentioned here in new york city, the federal judge blocked the mandate and enforcing that mandate for teachers to be vaccinated, and obviously that was extremely contentious leading up to now, and earlier this morning, we assumed there would be that deadline for teachers to receive that one dose of the vaccine or essentially not receive a paycheck come tuesday morning. and as you mentioned, you know, city officials are still kind of reviewing this information. they hope to hash everything out this weekend, but it remains to be seen if they will get to any sort of conclusion by monday. but they hope to enforce this mandate moving forward they say at some point this week, al lebs. >> wow, exclamation point bind what you said. there's a lot to unpack. thank you so much for doing that for us. it is a $4.5 trillion battle on capitol hill ahead of a potentially cataclysmic tussle over the nation's debt ceiling. up next i'll speak with a budget committee member about the challenges of getting those

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in the next hour, the house budget committee will be holding a virtual markup on the reconciliation package. it comes as democrats are preparing to take steps next week to move forward with votes on both that spending bill and the infrastructure bill, even as divisions remain between moderates and progressives. joining me now is a member of that committee, michigan congressman dan kildee, chief whip of the democratic caucus. welcome back to the broadcast the let me ask you about this markup. how much closer will it bring the bill to being ready for passage next week? >> well, this is a necessary next step. we will take the 13 pieces of legislation that the committees of jurisdiction passed including the ways and means committees and science committees that i serve on. and put them together in one

piece of legislation and send that to the house rules committee. that puts us in a position to act when we get agreement on what the ultimate package might be. so what we have is what the various committees have put together. it's legislation that i support, but as you know, until we have a package that we can get 218 votes for on the floor of the house, 50 votes in the senate, and the president's signature, we really don't have a deal. but this puts us in position in order to move as quickly as possible when it bill goes to the rules committee and make any changes we need to at that point. >> so when do you think these votes are going to go down? you know speaker pelosi had said the first time it would be taking place on monday. will it happen? should it happen? will all democrats get on the same page or at least enough so to get it passed? >> well, we're in the same book. i don't know if we're on the same page yet. the republicans have gone into the library, they're not for anything. so i do think we'll have the bill on the bipartisan infrastructure bill or the vote on the bipartisan infrastructure

bill last night. it's important to keep in mind that leader kevin mccarthy is against the bipartisan infrastructure bill. setting aside the fact that we know he would oppose the build back better act. they're not even for infrastructure at this point for goodness sakes. but we think we can get that vote next week, and we'll vote hopefully on the larger piece of legislation as soon as possible, potentially next week. but we have to come to agreement. there's no sense in us moving forward unless we have an understanding in the senate as to what we can get together on. >> you know, you make a really good point. do you think the house would delay a vote until sensing that it could pass? i mean, if there is a risk of it not passing, will that vote not happen? >> in terms of the bipartisan infrastructure bill or the -- or in the -- >> both of them. >> build back better act. my view is we take legislation to the floor when we're in the majority with the idea that we're going to pass the bill, so i believe that that's what the

case will be. i support the bipartisan infrastructure bill. i see how essential the build back better act is in order for us to move everything we need to move forward together. there are so many important elements in the build back better act that republicans in the senate wouldn't accept, therefore it's not in that bipartisan bill. both are important, both are necessary. i think both ultimately will pass. the infrastructure bill in its current form, the build back better act perhaps with some changes. >> okay, let's turn to the possibility of a government shutdown, set to take up a vote monday on whether to take up the house passed bill to avoid the government shutdown and suspend the nation's borrowing limit. that vote's not expected to get any republican support. so then what? how likely is it that we head for a shutdown? what are democrats' options next week? can you figure out how this is going to play out? >> our options are to put legislation on the floor that we can pass. i think it's important to keep

in mind that despite all the other differences we had, when republicans had a chance to pay our bills and keep the government open, not the infrastructure bill, not build back better, just pay our bills and keep government open, every republican in the house of representatives voted no. and if we're actually talking about the senate being unwilling to do those basic things, how is it -- how can we have a conversation about the real issues that our country faces when they're so committed to president biden failing to bring this country back. they're so committed to his failure that they're willing to shut the government down. they're willing to push this economy, which is just getting back on its feet back into recession for their own political gain. mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy, wake up. >> yeah, i just had to take in the way you put that there. it's quite sobering. let me ask you about the the

subpoenas that were sent by the january 6th select committee to some of donald trump's closest advisers. as trump plans to fight this, claiming executive privilege, are you confident that any of these four will actually appear before your colleagues for depositions next month? >> it's hard to say. i mean, when they were in the administration they avoided legal subpoenas every chance they could get. >> right. >> of course they had the president behind them then. they won't have that now. hey, look, it's my hope that whatever tools the select committee has to use, they will use them in order to get the information we need and know everything we should know about january 6th. and alex, as you and i have spoken, i was there. i was stuck in the gallery. i was trapped, and for those of us that experience this, we all did in one way or another, for those of us that experience the trauma of that moment, we feel as victims that we have a right to this information. and so do the american people.

>> so without executive privilege, shielding them from coming potentially, how is it that people just don't respond when they've been subpoenaed? i mean, i don't understand how that happens. it seems to be something that has percolated during the trumpian years, i just don't get it. what happens? what are the penalties if you don't respond? are people willing to risk jail time potentially? would that be something that congress could throw at them? >> well, it's my view that we should use every legal avenue we have to enforce our subpoena power, but you do make an important point. in the era of trump and this especially now applies to anybody who was a part of that trump organization, inside or outside government, they believe they operate by their own set of rules, that they don't have to follow the law, that they are somehow exempt from the norms that have become so important . the rule of law, they believe

they are exempt from it because he thinks and they think that they're special, that they're different, and i think hopefully what i'll see, what we'll all see is that the law will prove otherwise. we all have to follow the law sooner or later. i think it's catching up with them. >> okay. michigan congressman dan kildee, i appreciate the chat. come see me again, thank you so much. >> ung that. coming up next why the surge of immigrants drew up painful recollections for african-americans. americans. the legends she births on home town fields. and the future she promises. when we made grand wagoneer, proudly assembled in america, we knew no object would ever rank with the best things in this country. but we believed we could make something worthy of their spirit. fine, no one leaves the table until your finished.

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now to breaking news from the southern border, the migrant camp in del rio, texas, is clear of asylum seekers. the border crossing there will partially be open later today. so here's the question, where did those thousands of people go, and what are you learning about the timing of the reopening this afternoon, and

will it be a full reopening, partial reopening? how's that going to work? >> reporter: things have changed tremendously here in the last few days. the u.s. government sent multiple agencies here to work together. you had federal officers, state troopers, military, everyone working to process the migrants that were sleeping under the bridge. so secretary mayorkas spoke yesterday and gave some members -- the number of migrants that were coming through the rio is much larger than we knew. at one point the camp had as many as 15,000 migrant. yesterday they have processed since september 9th about 30,000 migrants coming in through the rio. so some of them are now in the u.s. they've been released just over 12,000 of them have been released into the u.s., and they will still have to go through a process to try and get asylum in the united states. that's going to be a process that is determined by the immigration judges. they still -- they could remain

in the country, they could still be deported depending on how that process goes. secretary mayorkas also said that 5,000 migrants have been sent to processing centers all across texas. before anything happens they have to be processed by cvp, so a lot of these migrants have been removed from the bridge to these processing centers. many others could be on their way to processing centers on buses. there's an important figure here, and that's 8,000 migrants, mayorkas said, returned to mexico voluntarily because they were scared of the process that could end with them on one of these flights to haiti. and that's important to note is because now you have thousands of migrants in mexico that have an uncertain future and they might attempt to come back to the border at some point in the future. now, when it comes to the border crossing, yes, they've informed that it will reopen today at 4:00. this is for pedestrian travel, also for vehicles. this is for private citizens, and on monday they expect to open this for commercial vehicles. this is very important at the

border because these towns along the u.s./mexico border are sometimes much closer to the cities on the mexican side than they are to cities throughout the states here in texas, for example, because they share the economies. you have workers that live in mexico and cross the border every day in del rio. they've been stuck for a week here. the only option was to drive an hour to the next border, cross into mexico and drive over an hour back which many did not do. it's very important to be able to open this border crossing and allow the economies of these two cities to start functioning again. >> 100%. okay, guad, a very comprehensive report. president biden is joining a chorus of outrage of images of officers corrals haitian migrants. the officers were slinging ropes and reins ha resembled whips at times. a senior border patrol told nbc news the agents are not equipped with whips and none of the

images show physical contact between agents' reins and migrants. those images prompted flashbacks to historical representations of slavery like this one tweeted by the naacp, and to the segregation era when black americans were widely targeted for violence by white civilian men on horseback. >> it is horrible what you saw, to see people treated like they did, horses running them over and people being strapped, it's outrageous. i promise you those people will pay. there's an investigation underway now, and there will be consequences. there will be consequences. it's an embarrassment, it's beyond an embarrassment. it's dangerous. it's wrong. it sends the wrong message around the world. it sends the wrong message at home. it's simply not who we are. >> joining me now, tamika mallory, and gary pierre, pulitzer prize journalist and founder of "the haitian times." tamika you first, you spoke out

on this on day one. what do you make of president biden's response that we just played? >> i mean, it sounds good, you know, of course now after all of the trauma has set in, after we have seen the images and people for many reasons are distraught about what we now have learned about what's happening at the border, what has happened at the border, you know, to hear that there will be someone held accountable and all of that sounds good. but i think we've got to go a little bit beyond that. i think at this point it is important for president biden to address the disparities in terms of how black people particularly are being treated at the border. i think it is also time for there to be a conversation about the history of the relationship between america and haiti and how there has to be a re-examining of it and some new policies put in place. i think we have to go beyond just talking points and really

get down to some deep things that, you know, that i think people don't necessarily want to address, but it's that time. >> so your mention about the history there, tamika, i want to pose this to gary. were you surprised to see 15,000 haitian migrants showing up at the border at the same time? i mean, what is your understanding of what all led to this surge? >> thanks for having me, first of all, alex. the response is, no, i was not surprised because this is what is going on, these people have been living extremely difficult and challenging lives in south america, primarily chile and mexico. you have a large encampment of haitians in tijuana, and they simply cannot endure the hardship that they were facing, and they decided this moment was a -- because of the temporary protective status that president biden had issued a couple months

ago, and they felt that if they try to walk to the border and get on u.s. soil, it would force the administration's hands. and of course this is what we saw happen because it was so outrageous. you knows i just don't even want to add anymore than tamika said because she has really covered what those images have shown us, so they forced the administration's hands. so to look at those and essentially now many of them will get to stay because they have a really credible case for not going back to haiti or mexico or anywhere else, that you know the u.s. wanted to send them. >> what went through your mind, though, when you saw those images playing out? >> well, i mean, i really got emotional because these are human beings. these are people. these are black people. these are haitians, and i connect with them on every level, and it was just -- i couldn't believe it. this is a country that i chose to be a citizen of by choice,

you know, and to see this out of control border patrol agents doing this. you know, the other thing is i think president biden has a bigger are problem on his hands than just disciplining those guys. i think that agency needs a really good makeover because, you know, we're looking at this now, but remember the kids in cages. remember the conditions that the latin american migrants were put under. they're consistently bad, and it is time we address the border patrol and their practices. this is -- you know, not good at every level, on a human level, on a political level, on a public relations level. they're just awful. >> tamika, from a political perspective, you know the white house threatened expedited deportations, but in reality, only about 2,000 were actually flown back to haiti, it may be 2,000 too many in your mind, but does that ratio demonstrate any good faith from the biden administration. does it ease any concerns about

deportations, and would this have happened without the public pressure? >> well, you know, and absolutely public pressure matters in this moment. however, i think there are deeper issues here. first of all, we haven't even talked about about what is happening once these individuals are released and the idea that they are now going to i.c.e. who gets to make a decision about their future in this country and/or whether or not they will be deported. we went there yesterday, my organization and our partner relief gang along with a group called haiti bridge, and we went and we traveled down to the border and had a briefing where we learned that there are many more problems than what is being shown on camera. and what i fear is that with all administrations we unfortunately see these moments when our leadership is willing to talk about what people know but not discussing the things that are happening behind the scenes.

those individuals who have been released and which i got a chance to meet many of them at a processing center there in del rio, they really do not have a plan. people are sort of distributed without information, without really having any real infrastructure for how their needs are being addressed. of course there are health concerns. we learned from border patrol that people have actually died. of course some of them while trying to make it into that particular area in del rio, across the border, but even people who were sick there in the encampment site, so just removing people from the site so there is no longer this sort of area that folks can point to as where the scene of the crime has taken place does not take away the deep issues that are happening between border patrol and of course with i.c.e. and then of course when these individuals make it into communities, they have not --

while they were in that encampment site, there was no opportunity for covid testing. there were no masks. there were not showers. there were many issues, and then these individuals go to i.c.e. and now they're returned, some of them are in society, and again, there is no real control. so i think what has been said by mr. pierre is so important, there's a lot of work that has to be done, and this administration has to address this on a deeper level. to say that there are going to be some people held responsible is an administrative issue, that of course those individuals do need to be held responsible but it is an administration issue at best to fire or reprimand those individuals. but to not clean out the system is where the problem begins and we constantly come back to these issues not just as it relates to border patrol and immigration but it is the same issue when dealing with policing.

you asked mr. pierre how he felt when he saw those images. from my perspective, when i saw the image of the person who believes somehow that they are a cowboy whipping -- i don't care what anyone says, yes, it's a rein, but nonetheless there was whipping that happened there at the border i thought of george floyd being choked to death by derek chauvin, i thought of black men being killed by police in this nation. we've got a problem with the way america addresses and deals with black people. >> i have trouble looking at these videos. you see this one border patrol agent circle around his whip, it's not a whip, but reins that could be interpreted as being a whip. it's really horrific. everything you've said has been comprehensive, tamika, i'm so glad you put it all out there. it needs to be addressed in just the manner that you set up. but very quickly to you, garry, do you even know back to the beginning if there's a clear dhs directive on who gets deported? i mean, it doesn't seem to be

clear who goes and who gets an opportunity to stay, let alone the challenges that tamika's got for those who do get to stay? >> i don't think anybody should be sent back. everybody should stay because the united states government, has classified haiti as a place that american citizens should not go back to, should not visit, rather, and why do you think that the haitians who have left haiti seeking a better life should go back. >> yeah. >> now, the other thing i want to make clear is that many of these migrants came from south america. they left haiti a long time ago. those that were sent back told the "new york times" and other media outlets, i don't know this place. i don't know this country. i left a long time ago. things have changed so much. by the way, there are efforts right now underway, i know some community organizations in new york who are preparing to house and to help settle these migrants into the community. the same thing is happening in miami, boston, and even in houston, texas, where there's a

sizable haitian community. the haitian community has risen to the occasion, like tamika said she was working with the haitian bridge alliance. that's one of the lead organizations trying to find shelter to try and get them settled into the country. right now, alex, we have a chronic unemployment in this country. service industries are looking for people, okay? and we have people who are capable and who want to work, so let's get these people settled and get them to work. a lot of them are fluent in spanish and creole and french and some english. they're ready to work. there's no need to deport anyone back to haiti. let's stop that. it was a panic move and right now tamika said the public pressure worked and so let's get these people settled in and really do the right thing for once. everything doesn't have to be about politics. do the right thing. >> i am really grateful for the conversation you both have brought to this show. thank you so much tamika mallory, garry pierre-pierre,

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they don't need a glock. that's ridiculous. it's just a way for her to raise money. but you know, if that's who people vote for, this is the government we're getting because that's who they vote for, and the republican party is putting up with it. you know, there was a time when -- got this under control, but they don't do it anymore because -- >> yeah, you're a little spotty in your answers with the audio, but i'm going to give this question a try with you. the measure that would codify roe v. wade, it now goes to the senate. it is unlikely to get support from the ten republicans that would be needed to have it pass, but if it were to pass the senate, what kind of legal protections would that offer, and how would that impact the texas law and the other restrictive state laws out there? >> well, i'm with you. i don't think it's going to pass the senate, and of course the problem is that the supreme court is probably going to strike down roe v. wade in the dobbs case coming up soon. we have to have these protections codified. we have to have women have the right to control our bodies, and

we just don't know if you could ever get anything passed in the senate, what it could be. everything is so up in the air. i have to applaud nancy pelosi for getting a vote and getting people on record so that we can continue to pressure and run against the republicans who refuse to let us keep control of our own bodies. for a long time, we put up with letting the people hide behind, well, roe v. wade is law, so we don't have to worry about having any legislation. and we've hidden behind that. and now, in the -- you can't hide behind that. now we can run against those people who refuse to protect our rights. >> well, listen, to that end, the supreme court announced this week it's going to hear a case concerning abortion law in mississippi. it's going to happen on december 1st. what are the implications on that one? >> it's all bad. there wasn't really a reason for the supreme court to take up that case from mississippi, the dobbs case. what happened was there was an unconstitutional restriction in mississippi, and the fifth

circuit, the most conservative circuit in the country, almost, struck it down and said it was unconstitutional and the supreme court took it anyway, and that's a signal that they're going to do something to roe v. wade, and when you couple that with what's just happened in texas where they did their little midnight one-paragraph, kavanaugh and company, it looks like they're about to overturn roe v. wade. in texas, there is no protection and we're about to lose it in more states. >> okay. it's hard even to respond to that. those concerns. but cynthia, let's get you hooked up perfectly clearly the next time and bring you back to talk more about this because there are few more important topics. thank you very much. let's go from there to some new remarks from president biden on where we are in the fight against covid. >> recent data indicates there's only one confirmed positive case

per 5,000 fully vaccinated americans per day. you're as safe as possible. you're in good shape. and we're doing everything we can to keep it that way. which is where the booster comes in. so, let me be clear. yes, we made incredible progress in vaccinating americans with over 182 million people being fully vaccinated as of today. but this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. >> joining me now, "usa today" white house correspondent courtney. welcome back to the broadcast. we just heard the president speak about the unvaccinated. how about the challenges for the biden administration in combatting the misinformation, the mixed messaging that may discourage someone from getting vaccinated and with that move to start administering pfizer boosters, first of all, how do you rate the messaging around this rollout? >> well, you know, there is a lot of confusion around the messaging from the white house. we saw the president try and get

control of that messaging on friday with this speech. he outlined what the cdc endorsed, which is a booster shot only for people who received the pfizer vaccine who are over 65, have an underlying medical condition, or are a frontline worker like a healthcare worker or a teacher. the key issue here is that the cdc panel did not actually endorse that last category of frontline workers, but cdc director rochelle walensky went ahead and ignored that recommendation and expanded policy to include frontline workers. she said she was bringing cdc policy in line with an fda decision earlier this week that granted authorization, emergency authorization for all three categories. the problem here is that biden announced the plan for booster shots for everyone last month before federal regulators met to discuss the need for booster shots, you know, which, of course, turned out to be premature because only pfizer

got the federal authorization, and the administration has faced some criticism here for getting ahead of the regulation process, especially as biden has vowed to follow the science in his pandemic response. and now there is some concern that this mixed messaging and this back and forth sort of undercuts some of that clarity that the american public is looking for on who gets a booster shot and who doesn't. >> yeah. everyone's got to get on the same page, that's for sure, to avoid the confusion. let me move on to infrastructure and the bill that's expected to be voted on next week. here's what the president had to say about it. >> i believe we're going to end up getting both the pieces of my economic legislation. the first piece, the 1.9, fundamentally changed the structure and the nature of the economy in this country. even though, remember, it got clobbered. it was this -- all this terrible thing, no republican voted for it. well, we got real economic growth. now, we're at this stalemate at

the moment, and we're going to have to get these two pieces of legislation passed. both need to be passed. >> so, how concerned is the white house that the infrastructure bill may not pass? what does this stalemate, as the president called it, suggest about where the democratic party is on it today? >> yeah, i mean, there's real concern. they have deadlines fast approaching. monday is just around the corner. and the white house is working around the clock, you know, white house press secretary jen psaki told us on friday that the president would even be on the phone at camp david where he is this weekend. but the issue is, you know, will the democrats, you know, get a deal done by both chambers by monday? that's probably unlikely. but i think there is an indication here that people are willing to negotiate. people like, you know, senator joe manchin, and that's all the white house feels they need to hurdle democrats in the right direction.

the alternative here is that democrats get nothing done, and that's something i think house speaker nancy pelosi understands. the timeline may shift to later in the week, even as she's promised to bring the infrastructure deal to a vote on monday, but there is an understanding that they have to perform and next week is a big week for them on that. >> it sure is. courtney, thank you so much. are there any new clues about where brian laundrie is? the latest on the search for him in our next hour. is? the latest on the search for him inur o next hour are you tired of clean clothes that just don't smell clean? what if your clothes could stay fresh for weeks? now they can. downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters keep your laundry smelling fresh waaaay longer than detergent alone. pour a cap of downy unstopables into your washing machine before each load. and enjoy fresher smelling laundry. if you want laundry to smell fresh for weeks make sure you have downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters. shop online for downy unstopables, including our new, lighter scent. people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes

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good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome to alex witt reports. here's what's happening as we approach 2:00 p.m. eastern, 11:00 a.m. pacific. on capitol hill, congress is headed toward a budget showdown. both the house and senate facing multiple deadlines this coming week. the house is set to vote on infrastructure. right now, a virtual mark-up is just getting under way of the $3.5 trillion reconciliation package that has moderate and progressive democrats split. this as the tensions on the hill are especially high after two members of congress got into a shouting match on the steps of the capitol friday. democrat debbie dingell and republican marjorie taylor greene sparring over abortion rights. congresswoman dingell reacting to that