final results showing that by his supporters' own count, joe biden won the state clearly and without doubt. but if you thought that would stop the election lies in arizona and beyond, you must not be paying attention. >> this whole entire process, this fake audit, and the resulting report and the information contained in there, it's just part of a multifaceted attack on election integrity and our democracy as a whole. what this report and the associated process of the audit will do is continue to fuel these conspiracy theories and these doubters in our elections and that's not going to end any time soon, and that is dangerous. >> in a moment, i'll talk to arizona state representative reginald bolding about all this. he's waiting, standing by. and the fallout from the january 6th violence that trump's election lies helped fuel is also moving closer to the president, the committee sending

out subpoenas for some key trump players, and it's clear they're nowhere near done. >> i think that you will find that there will be other subpoenas forthcoming. we're collecting a lot of information from emails, facebook posting, twitter postings. we have millions of pieces of evidence that have already flowed into us. >> also this hour, a different kind of confrontation at the capitol. >> that's representative debbie dingell throwing down with controversial republican colleague, marjorie taylor greene. my conversation with congresswoman dingell about that is coming up. plus, new reporting this hour that suggests potential concerns about the political standing of vice president kamala harris. and facebook under the microscope for the role it plays

in misinformation to its millions of users. we'll look at the impact on just one issue later this hour. but we begin with former president trump and his first public appearance since the results of the messy, partisan republican-backed election recount in arizona. trump will take the stage in perry, georgia, later tonight. after trying to spin arizona's review that reaffirmed biden's win in maricopa county, by the way, as a further example of fraud. his claims were cherry-picked from the cyber ninjas report, which the county itself decided to snarkly fact check on twitter. on the claim that more than 23,000 mail-in ballots voted from a prior address, the county said, quote, cyber ninjas still don't understand this is legal under federal law. to label it of critical concern is either intentionally misleading or staggeringly ignorant. how about that claim that more than 10,000 potential voters cast ballots in multiple counties? they responded, quote, there are more than 7 million people in arizona, and yes, some of them share names and birth years.

to identify this as a critical issue is laughable. joining me right now, arizona democratic state representative reginald bolding, also candidate for secretary of state. thanks for being with us here. you've been no stranger how you feel about this. you've called the election review a sham. what do you make of the final report and the claims that have been disputed by the county? >> this was a much-anticipated report, but it turned out to be an enormous flop. what we knew is what we've always known along is that the 2020 election was one of the most safe, secure elections here in this country, and we know that the primary focus of this audit was to allow for radical right individuals to raise money. it was also to allow the trump base to continue to be motivated, and quite frankly, we know it's to allow for voter suppression bills to be introduced later down the line. >> does that surprise you, then, that this was such a flop, this was such a flub here? i mean, it's been, you know,

marred by checking for bamboo and really nobody has talked about the legitimacy here and even republicans in arizona are trying to distance themselves from it. yet, we're still seeing more efforts, for example, now texas. does that surprise you? >> you know, it's actually not surprising. because what this is, it's a playbook we've seen from the republicans in the past. they will continue to allow a thread to unravel. so now what we've heard is now claims that since they said, okay, maricopa has checked out, let's move into another county just to make sure that the results are valid there. they're trying to lay some line of legitimacy that their process was actually legit, which we know it wasn't. it was a purely partisan audit, ran by radical right inexperienced professionals and now they're going to try to do this in other counties in arizona and across the country, what we're already seeing. >> you know, republican governor doug ducey responded to the audit on twitter. he said, in part, quote, any

meaningful policy recommendations identified should be addressed in the next session of the legislature. you're running for arizona secretary of state, so what changes do you think need to happen here to make sure democracy stays intact? >> you know, that's one of the major reasons that we're seeing that this audit right now was produced, is because it's allowing them to actually create a claim that they need to create different policies that will suppress the vote. for me, we should be making sure that we are improving cybersecurity, that we are making sure that elections are the safest and secure as possible that we're allowing more people to actually participate in democracy. that's where i'm running for office. my opponent right now is actually endorsed by trump, he stood on the stairs on january 6th of the insurrection and i'm encouraging folks to support people like me. it's me or trump support candidate and i encourage you to go to reginaldbolding.com and support our run. >> we're seeing the election review now in texas despite

trump winning the state. i want to ask you how much the review cost the taxpayers of arizona, both the dollar amount and the cost when it comes to the erosion of confidence in our elections, and do you fear that these gop-backed efforts will continue to erode that confidence ahead of the midterms? >> you know, that is actually the most disturbing thing right now is not only the cost, which we have seen upwards of $5 million to $6 million that have been raised in taxpayer money, included in that number, but we know that this is actually making individuals more skeptical of our democracy. or out of system. these same individuals who claimed fraud were the same individuals who knew that their message was not going to resonate with voters. i'm hopeful that we can speak truth to power, that we can actually provide an opportunity so real, sane people who are actually looking to create policies, they can speak up and speak out. so far, our governor hasn't done that. and quite frankly, i'm not sure any radical right republican individual will do it.

>> you know, you mentioned other counties in arizona. we know this audit, this review was just for maricopa county, the most populous in arizona. but what about other counties? what's next here in arizona? are you seeing reviews already under way in other counties? >> you know, we are already seeing cause for that to happen. i run one of the largest civic engagement organizations here in the state of arizona, and we are in, you know, pima, pinell, we're hearing from voters and voters understand that our elections were safe and secure. our voters also are asking that you keep these radical right individuals like mark fincham and donald trump cronies away from the actual -- away from our election data. we are seeing those calls. and pima county is our second largest, most populated county and that has been an ask and we're going to fight tooth and nail to make sure they don't do this. this is a huge waste of taxpayers dollars. we need to defend our democracy.

>> well, it didn't end how they maybe wanted to, whatever their intention was. all right, arizona state representative reginald bolding, thank you for your time. i want to bring in my panel right now, david jolly, former member of congress, national chairman of the serve america movement and an msnbc political contributor and adrian elrod, democratic strategist and former senior aide on the biden-harris campaign. good afternoon to both of you and thanks for joining us. david, what do you make here of this strategy by former president trump and his allies to focus on these so-called inconsistencies in the cyber ninjas' report. what is the end game here? are they just throwing things at the wall? >> well, i think there are a lot of elements that benefit donald trump. first and foremost, it's a vanity project, right? it's hard to see this as anything other than donald trump convincing himself that he didn't lose the election. and he has enough followers that will listen to anything he says. but it's also an attack on the integrity of the administration of our elections, and i think

that's very important because we know one of the themes of trump ice success and frankly his governing style was to tear down the institutions that americans believe in. the courts, the media, in this case, the administration of elections, because that allows him to act in these ways that we've never seen public figures act, to simply say, no, the election wasn't fair. no, it was a fraudulent election. no, i didn't lose. and he has enough enablers who hold office in certain states that now they will enact legislation to do this. the russian activist gary kasparov pointed out early on in trump years, the point of misinformation is not just to misinform. it's to exhaust your critical thinking and to get you to doubt the institutions that we've established as our rule makers. that's what donald trump's engaging in. >> adrian, "the washington post" op-ed argues that the lying won't stop even though the arizona audit didn't go the way trump planned and she writes, quote, the real goal is to sow and normalize mistrust in the electoral system that is the foundation of democracy in this country.

that said, what should the democratic strategy be ahead of the midterms? >> well, look, karen tumulty, who wrote that piece in the "washington post," has seen it all, and she's covered a lot of presidential campaigns. it's very disturbing and you know, look, democrats have to continue to fight back. that's what we're doing. we're not just fighting back with a strong message that, you know, you've got to -- the voters have to trust the institutions that have held up democracy for hundreds of years in this country, but you also have to fight back from a legal standpoint, and that's what we're doing. we've got some of the best attorneys in the country, mark elias, many of his colleagues who are continuing to fight back on a lot of these, you know, fraudulent claims. but it's very important that we continue to stay on top of this because that is the republican tactic. i mean, their base is eroding. they're losing voters by the day. they're losing women. they're losing young voters. they're losing voters of color. and so the only tactic that they have left, lindsey, to really go

forward and try to win some of these elections is to try to delegitimize the process that we've had, again, in this country, the democratic process to elect elected officials to office, we've had it for many years. that's the only tact they have left at this point to try to win some of these races. >> you know, david, we're seeing this texas election review move ahead now but along with places like pennsylvania, it's not the only place but i think everybody can agree here that this cyber ninjas fiasco in arizona was embarrassing for them. it was marred by errors, even republicans in the state were distancing themselves. so, how is the result in arizona not deterring them? >> well, because this is now part of the fabric of trumpism, and we know he still controls much of the party, if not all of it, and his endorsement matters, which is what we'll see in georgia tonight. so you see people follow trump's playbook, and they're going to do this in other states but i would also suggest -- >> does his endorsement matter? we're going to see him rallying

for people in georgia but haven't we already seen some of the candidates that he has endorsed in primaries lose? >> it can either win elections or it causes the party to lose, true, but he has not been replaced. we have not seen the emergence of a desantis or somebody else that steps forward that has greater control than donald trump. but very importantly, i think this also empowers democrats' agenda. there's a corollary here on the voting protection bill in washington, d.c., because an individual's right to vote is a federal right, but we trust our states to administer the elections and that right, and so washington democrats have an opportunity to make the case to the american people and say, look, because your votes are not being counted through the maladministration of elections in states, we are justified to pass the voting rights bill and we are justified to break the filibuster to do it. and that narrative could actually be sold in court as well. if the states are violating the federal right, it's time for congress to step in.

>> you know, adrienne, i want to ask you about the january 6th select committee and those subpoenas we saw this week for some of those trump aides here. i want to point out the timing here, because this is very interesting. according to politico, the calendar makes their job tougher. panel members know they need to show results quickly as the midterms bear down, given democrats' thin majority. how can they essentially fast track this while still getting the answers that they need? >> well, you know, look, i think that if you look at it from a political standpoint, sure. i mean, the midterms are coming up, we do have a thin majority. it would be nice to, you know, conclude this investigation so they can make sure nothing like this happens again but at the same time, lindsey, it's important that this committee be given the time that it needs to get to the bottom of what happened, to make sure that they understand what every single official working in the trump administration and of course president trump himself, what

they had to do with this insurrection, so again, we can make sure that the right people are prosecuted and punished and that we can make sure that nothing like this happens again. so, you know, i get the politics of this. i don't necessarily subscribe to the same theory that politico subscribes to, which is we've got to get this done quickly, because of the midterms. >> okay. >> i do know that obviously, president biden has a, you know, a small window to get some of thinks big priorities passed, but i don't necessarily think this is tied to a lot of his agenda. i think we've got to make sure, again, that this committee takes the time they need to get to the bottom of this. because again, we cannot have something like that, what happened at the insurrection, happen again on january 6th. i spent ten years working in congress. it's unfathomable to me that something like that could happen in that building, and we just got to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> david, i want to ask you about the information the committee can obtain because according to that same politico article, the january 6th panel is hoping to get a boost from

the biden doj. trump's doj intervened to block house inquires, biden's administration has indicated it won't stand in the way. sensitive documents. what does that mean? put on your lawyer hat. >> yeah, sensitive documents are going to begin to look at who was involved in the orchestration of the events. this was an organized event with people paying for the rally, dealing with the infrastructure of the rally, and then what communications may have existed related to the organization and financing of the event as well as the suggestion, you know, donald trump stood at the microphone and said, go to the capitol and go to the capitol with strength, not with weakness. so, the -- part of the entry will be, can we learn about the frame of mind of donald trump during these events? was he truly culpable? most people would say he was. but the legal aspects they will get visibility into is how was this paid for, who communicated about the event prior and on the day of january 6th.

>> what about phone records? some members of congress have been dodgy about when and for how long they talked to trump on that day. >> yeah, the phone records will establish frame of mind of the president as well as, listen, there is a possibility that members of congress were involved in sharing information or providing access to individuals at the rally. that would be an enormous accusation, so one i'm careful to bring up, but phone records would identify who spoke with whom. importantly, each of these individuals will have individual claims of protection. joe biden's making the right decision, saying, my executive branch is not going to try to protect these people from having to provide information. but each of these individuals will certainly object to some of the requests, and i think that ultimately could get litigated before we hear a single piece of testimony. >> that's what every guest here seems to agree on. this will eventually get tied up in the courts. former congressman david jolly, adrienne elrod, thank you both. still ahead, it's not your usual capitol hill showdown.

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it was a heated exchange, to say the least, representatives marjorie taylor greene and debbie dingell engaged in an angry verbal altercation after greene once again heckled house democrats on the steps of the capitol. this time, over abortion rights. it appears dingell had the last word, however, tweeting later that the public learned two things from the exchange. be a good neighbor. and don't mess with michigan women. i spoke with the representative along with my co-host, candice gibson this morning about that altercation as well as her party's fight to pass president biden's agenda. >> what's your take on this confrontation now that you have had some hours to kind of digest and maybe watch that video? >> i don't like seeing the video of me. the fact of the matter is, she had been on the -- we've been --

some of us have been the top of the capitol steps, speaker was having a press conference, actually, on build back better. there are 150 of my colleagues gathered down there. she heckled us for ten minutes. i kept biting my tongue but she was trying to disrupt my colleagues and the speaker at a press conference. she was just spewing hate and filth and look, i'm not proud. i don't think we should yell at each other. i think we should respect each other and i think we should be civil. but i do not think what was right was successful in disrupting that press conference, spewing the kind of hate that she was spewing and i just -- i asked her to be civil. why couldn't she be civil toward a colleague? not my proudest moment but i'm tired of being bullied, and i have been bullied at different points in my life, and you have to show a bully you're not afraid of them. >> i understand, and you later tweeted, clutch my pearls, did

the earrings start to come off? >> i want you to know, my colleagues were writing these lines. they were. >> good to know. i was watching that video. i just kept thinking, you know, if i was looking at it as, if you were my mom, how infuriating it would make me to see that somebody got my mom this upset. you have four kids. did they reach out? what did they say about that incident? >> you know, i've heard from a lot of people around the country. i know i've had -- the moment went viral, and i don't know how i feel about that. it's not -- i don't want children to see two women screaming at each other, but i also hope people know that at some point, you've got to stand up to bullies. there was so much bullying, too much hate, we're being divided as a country and i don't want to contribute in any way but i want to stand up to people who spew hate. >> congresswoman, there's a lot of business surrounding the

country that we want to get to with here, so first, right now, everyone's waiting to see how those four former trump advisors and aides will respond to subpoenas from the select committee investigating january 6th. what's your reaction to those subpoenas and what do you hope to see happen in the long-term with this investigation? >> you know, picking up on what i just said about the hate that sort of divide -- the hate and fear that's dividing this country, i think that this investigation is very important. none of us thought -- we keep seeing event after event that we think would never happen in this country that i think is threatening the fundamental pillars of our democracy. i think the facts are very important to come out about what happened on january 6th. i think it was a much more organized event than many people believe or realize. i think the american people are owed the fact. i think we need to worry about these kinds of groups that are out there, spewing this hate. trying to destroy our democracy.

and i think we need to have the facts, and i am not going to -- i mean, i have some guesses about some of the things that happened, but getting the facts is very important, and these, you know, are an important part of an objective investigation to tell the american people we're having that day. >> congresswoman, last night, you had speaker pelosi, who told our senior congressional reporter, garrett haake that monday's infrastructure vote is on a good path, in her words. do you have any insight into all of that? >> you know, this is -- i have some very strong feelings about that and failure's not an option. period. we need both bills. and democrats, the -- for both bills, we have to get both bills. you can't have one without the other. we got to get both of the bills. the "d" in democrat is for deliver, and the american people have to -- the democrats have got to deliver for the american people. when you look at these, quite

frankly, we can't do what we've been doing building out infrastructure and taking the lead out of pipe and getting broadband to urban areas and rural areas without the bill. we need to have both of these bills. i think that probably enough people weren't talked to at the beginning, the caucus wasn't included. the two houses of congress, the house, has 435 members in addition to the 100 senators. everybody wants to talk. we had to come together, going to have to get this figured out. i think it's going to be a long, tough weekend. house budget is meeting this weekend, but in my book, failure's not an option. and we're going to have to figure it out. every democrat needs to know that because there will be trouble. and by the way, everybody, while we were playing that exchange from this morning, we did get some breaking news. nancy pelosi, the house speaker, is out with a new "dear colleagues" letter and really

setting up for what will be a very intense week on capitol hill. so, she's continuing to put a pressure on her colleagues ahead of the busy week here. she says she wants infrastructure and reconciliation done this week. she says she wants both passed. we have already reported that she and her caucus are going to be meeting at 5:30 p.m. on monday. she reiterated that in her letter but definitely will make for an incredibly tense week here on capitol hill. we'll have much more after the break. pitol hill we'll have mucmoh re after the break. the best things america makes are the things america makes out here. the history she writes in her clear blue skies. the legends she births on home town fields. and the future she promises. when we made grand wagoneer, proudly assembled in america, we knew no object would ever rank with the best things in this country. but we believed we could make something worthy of their spirit.

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welcome back. the biden administration says it has finished clearing out the chaotic border camp in del rio, texas, where thousands of mostly haitian migrants were camped out. the 15,000 people, many of whom were trying to flee turmoil in their own country, are now gone, and border crossing is set to partially reopen in about a half hour. but images like this, a u.s. border patrol agent on horseback

pursuing an immigrant have left a lasting impression and are causing substantial backlash for the president for his own party. >> i'm pissed. i'm unhappy. and i'm not just unhappy with the cowboys. i'm unhappy with the administration. we are following the trump policy. what we witnessed takes us back hundreds of years. what we witnessed was worse than what we witnessed in slavery. >> haitian lives are black lives, and if we truly believe that black lives matter, then we must reverse course. >> i'm joined now by the executive director of the next gen america, christina ramirez. homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas did condemn those images. here's what he had to say yesterday. >> in the midst of meeting these challenges, we, our entire nation, saw horrifying images

that do not reflect who we are, who we aspire to be, or the integrity and values of our truly heroic personnel. let me be clear. the department does not tolerate any mistreatment of any migrant and will not tolerate any violation of its values, principles, and ethics. >> he also said the camp was emptied several days ahead of schedule because of the heroic efforts by his department. what's your reaction? >> you know, i think for all of us that saw those images, in 2021, of migrant refugees from haiti, black refugees trying to seek safe harbor in our country, in 2021, seeing whips and being then corralled on horses was just a sickening and dehumanizing image for so many of us and spoke to the desperation and need for us to work on immigration reform. and it has to happen at two levels. one, you know, we just saw in

recent days, in washington, immigration components be taken out of the reconciliation bill that would have helped with this crisis and helped refugees and asylum seekers. so, we need to see those components added back in to make sure that there is long-term structural change to our immigration policies and systems. and the second thing is, it's not enough for democrats just to not be as bad as trump. they actually have to live up to their values at the federal level and the biden administration and make sure that migrants are able to seek asylum. this is a legal right that they have, and just to see how thousands and thousands of migrants, people carrying children, carrying everything that they had on their backs simply trying to ask for their day in court and not being granted it. i think it was sickening for many, many of us, especially for us that live here in texas. >> and fleeing to those conditions, certainly not a ritz carlton on the border.

i want to turn to a poll that shows an incredible strength of latinas in the u.s. in a multitude of arenas, especially when it comes to the economy and industry. first it does show hispanic women were hit really hard by covid, 4 in 10 lost their jobs. but they are now more than two times likely -- more likely to own or plan to open their own business in the next three years. and 58% are more likely to pursue higher education compared to 41% of non-latinas. what's your initial reaction to these numbers? >> well, as a latina, i was so proud to see those numbers, the resiliency and political and economic power recognized of the latino community. i think what this data shows is the importance of investing in the power both politically and economically, and culturally of the latino community. now, we make up, as latinas, we are 31 million strong in this country. we are the largest non-white group now in the united states. and while we face many challenges, you know, the study

also showed that one in four latinas said they lost a family member due to covid. and the -- you can see the economic impact that covid really did have a devastating impact on our community. but there are also some really exciting trends, the fact that the majority of latinas are now registered. that we've seen historic voter turnout, especially amongst young latinas, that we are the political and economic trend setters and powerhouses, and this data shows that. >> and what does that tell you, also, about the power of latinas as an electorate? you mentioned how many are registered to vote, about 63%. 56% voted in 2020. they keep up with current events, according to this poll. they know where they stand on important issues. and we know that this group, like any group that we talk about, isn't a monolith here, but really the most recent test was the california recall. latinos voted 60% to 40% to keep governor gavin newsom in office.

it may sound like a lot but looking at other groups on the screen here, what does this tell you, though, about what people who want to be in elected office need to do when it comes to reaching out to latinos and latinas? >> look, i am always the first to say i'm a progressive latina. i believe that progressives have better positions for the latino community, especially when it comes to our economic, healthcare, and educational needs. but the latino community is not monolithic and i think there's two ways you can see it. you can see that the latino community is not just the demographics alone are not destiny for democrats, that they can't just believe that latinos are going to vote for them just because of their population growth. they have to do the work to go out and win the latino vote and speak to their needs and to their pain. so, i see that there's a charge and a call to democrats to do deeper investment in work and then when we talk about latinos, there's a huge gender gap as far as how we vote. latinas are much more

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was making its users angrier. now, as a congressional inquiry looms, ceo mark zuckerberg faces another challenge, climate change denial. with me to discuss is the co-chair of the friends of the earth's climate coalition. facebook has made some announcements here of what they're going to do. we're going to get into that in a second here, but you saw significant spikes in the mid information surrounding climate change during that texas blackout in february. walk us through what you saw. >> sure. and it was really a case study in the worst amount of viral disinformation. you saw over the course of four days a false image of a windmill that was actually from 2014 from sweden go from one account to spread the next day to a much larger set of people online. and then within four days, it was coming out of the governor's lips. so, you saw the very direct

transfer on social media disinformation having a political consequence that is now a talking point for some in the republican party. to say that, you know, that renewable energy is weak when really, the obvious facts were that it was the fossil fuel infrastructure, not only that caused it but that was the failure. >> so, goes from fringe to mainstream to now being a political talking point, the evolution of disinformation. wow. you know, like i mentioned, facebook announced it will invest $1 million in organizations working to fight climate change misinformation, but you say this is actually evidence that facebook is not serious about climate change denial, given that they're an $85 billion company. so what would be proof of actual commitment? >> well, i think it's pretty simple that they need to look at the obvious numbers of who's spreading the disinformation and limit the viralty of that. it's really not hard to do in a company with that much resources can easily do it.

we, in fact, gave them a list of people who we said would be lying around these kinds of significant events, and said, you know, watch out for them and don't allow them to go viral, and lo and behold, it was many of those people who were the obvious ones spreading it. so, you know, code isn't something that just happens. we write the code and the algorithms that make this happen. so, it's entirely within their power to take much greater action. >> real quick, i only have about minute left, i want to play a clip from facebook ceo mark zuckerberg. >> do you still contain main the more likely content is to violate community standards, the more attention it will receive. >> people don't want to see click bait and things like that. while it may be true that people might be likely to click on it in the short-term, it's not good for our business or product or community for this content to be there.

>> at this point, is government intervention necessary? >> absolutely. i mean, we all agree, people don't want that. the question is, why is it still happening? and it's not just happening for no reason. these platforms make a business model of spreading viral disinformation on a variety of subjects, and climate change, obviously one of them. it's time for congress and the administration to step up and step in. >> michael khoo, thanks for your time today. the job responsibilities for vice president kamala harris keep stacking up, from managing the border to the fight for voting rights. the biden administration has dealt her some of the most difficult tasks. to help, the vp is now adding two new senior aides, who they are and how this could be tipping her hand at what's planned for her political future. r hand at what's planned for her political future we did it again. verizon has been named america's most reliable network by rootmetrics. and our customers rated us #1 for network quality in america according to j.d. power. number one in reliability, 16 times in a row. most awarded for network quality, 27 times in a row.

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oh, kamala, not sure if you heard but i'm putting you in charge of solving the immigration problem down at the mexican border. >> yes, i did hear that.

wow. thank you for the opportunity. such a fun, solvable problem. >> all right, that's a throwback from earlier in the spring, "saturday night live" poking a little fun at the challenges facing vice president harris in her first year in office. while we office. what we learned this week from "the washington post" that harris is having two power advisers added to her team. i'm joined by tyler page, "the washington post" writer who wrote this. tyler, in your alter you write that a source told you that harris hired lorraine vols during the transition to focus on organizational development, strategic communications, and long-term planning. is that because essentially harris has been tasked with voting rights, immigration control, arguably two of the most complicated topics to handle? >> right.

so the vice president has a policy portfolio that issues that are incredibly difficult to deal with and make progress on immediately. obviously we've seen the challenges the administration faces at the border since joe biden took office. those were renewed again this week with what we saw as haitian migrants sought refuge in the united states and those horrific images of border patrol agents whipping migrants. so it's an immigration challenge, and then voting rights, one of the most high-profile issues for democrats as they worry about republican-led efforts to restrict the right to vote in various states. on one hand, she has an increasingly difficult policy portfolio, but on the other, she's the first black and south asian woman to be the vice president, and with that comes an increased media portfolio and the press corps that's following her is a lot more work than, say, when mike pence or even joe biden was vice president.

so the combination of those two has led to some capacity issues with the staff. obviously the vice president has a much smaller staff than the president, so they brought in these two senior advisers on a temporary basis to alleviate some of the workload from this office. the media presence and the policy grow. >> the latest polling from gallup shows the vice president's approval rating is at 49%. what do you make of that and is the white house taking note? >> if you talk to the white house -- i speak to aides and advisers to the president both inside and outside the white house almost every day. they are not looking at the polls right now. they understand that, you know, he has taken -- it's an tumultuous on certain fronts, immigration, afghanistan, covid surges. there's a lot coming down the pike they're excited about.

they feel the country continues to make progress, particularly with the vaccine mandate. for kamala harris, she finds herself in a difficult role, one that joe biden found himself in 2015, 2016 as someone that's potentially seen as a future president. joe biden is 78 years old and there's a lot of chatter about is she the heir parent to the biden administration. joe biden signaled he plans to run for a second term, but he is 78 and he could decide not to, thrusting her into the front-runner status there, or long term in 2028, obvious seen as a front-runner for the presidential race there as well. so i think she is, you know, right now trying to be a loyal soldier, work with the biden administration. but there's always people, especially in the democratic party, thinking and looking about what the future looks like. she's a big part of that. and so i think they want her to be set up for success and part of the bringing on the senior advisers is another way to bolster the staff around her. >> given what you just said, the

fact there's been no indication that president biden doesn't intent to run, but given the hires, did you get a sense there's potentially long-term planning here about the political future b that 2024 or 2028? >> i think internally in the vice president's office they have no plans in place to be thinking about the vice president's long-term political future, what this may look like after joe biden. i just they're pretty focused on doing the job that's ahead of them and developing a résumé and achieving goals that could be helpful for a long-termer. if you talk to democrats outside the white house, outside kamala harris' inner circle, there's a lot of chatter. democrats love to talk about the future, so that's obviously a big concerning question for them. >> all right, tyler page, thank you so much for your time. appreciate it. our head scratcher of the week should be a lesson about the importance of spellcheck, especially when you're a member

of congress. representative lauren boebert, a favorite of the maga crowded wanted to introduce articles of impeachment against president biden. she got the attention, but not for the reasons she was hoping. someone forgot a letter, lauren boebert wants to imeach joe biden. it was corrected after being pointed out but not before it was immortalized on social media. our high five of the week goes to a nevada first grader who knows one of the most important things in life, always listen to mom. a 6-year-old kept his mask on for his school photo despite the photographer telling him he could take it off. my mommy told me not to, was his answer. his mother was surprised when he saw the picture, but she told mason to keep the mask on except

when eating or drinking. mason took that to heart. they plan to hang the school portrait on the wall. morgan radford will be here tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. eastern, but you catch me at 6:00 a.m. reverend al sharpton and "politicsnation" pick things up after a quick break. at usaa, we've been called too exclusive. because we only serve those who honorably served. all ranks, all branches, and their families.

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good evening, and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead a defining moment. right now i'm like you, still processing what has not been an easy week for any and every kind of justice or social cohesion. our nation risked its fifth shutdown of government in a decade, disrupting the few life lines extended to communities of color in the midst of a pandemic that continues to disproportionately harm them. meanwhile, the two-party infrastructure plan that president biden devoted so much of his early leverage to is slated for an ambitious house vote next week, even as it is once again undermined by his