christian." using your religion to denigrate someone with a different interpretation of your religion, it's just wrong. and it's a form of extremism that have spawned terrorist groups to claim to be the only true followers average. congresswoman dingle discussed the issue this morning with my colleagues. >> i think we should respect each other and i think we should be civil. i did not think it was right. i asked her to be civil. why couldn't she be civil? not my proudest moment but i'm tired of being bullied and i've been bullied at different points in my life. >> we're all asking ourselves why can't she be civil. all right. fair enough. good evening, everyone. thanks for staying with us.

welcome to the second hour of "ayman." the minority party effectively dictates what does and doesn't actually get passed. we'll explain how that is impacting the hugely consequentially impact on the biden administration's legislation. >> why is breaking up the social media giant so hard to do? plus president biden delivered his first united nations speech as president. i'm going to ask my saturday night panel to grade his week on the world stage. i'm ayman mohyeldin. let get started. if it wasn't clear before, the past few weeks have shown that the filibuster has got to go. the parliamentary procedure, which is not even mentioned in

the u.s. constitution, stands in the way of congress acting on basically everything you can think of. it blocks the majority party from enacting the agenda they were elected to enact and gives the minority party to virtual virtually dictate the agenda and vote owe what it chooses. that's why the process around the reconciliation bill has been so confusing for people. the majority party only seems to be able to get their diverse legislative agenda passed if they jam everything into one bill and that only has to do with money. that's the result of another arcane senate rule, which strictly limits the use of that reconciliation process each year. so how bad has the filibuster been? in the last few weeks it killed voting rights. it's killed immigration reform after the senate parliamentarian ruled it could not be included in the reconciliation bill and

it's also killed police reform, which failed this week mainly because republican senator tim scott kept moving the goalposts. now for weeks, democrats remained hopeful, continually praising scott and claiming he's actually negotiating in good faith. watch. >> i'm grateful on both sides of the aisle and senate that we are viewing this with a sense of urgency. >> i know that there is a strong sentiment in the senate and in the house and among sheriffs o do something about this. >> i think once senator booker and senator scott have been good faith partners, they've been honest brokers. >> at the end of the day, we -- senator scott and i had a gulf between us that we could not close. >> in the end, honestly, as many could have predicted, the south carolina republican senator who is actually up for reelection rejected all of their offers and

the talks died. now, without reform, that's the way, you know, just about all the legislation seems destined to end. it's crazy. and it proves that the filibuster simply must go for the sake of our democracy and getting anything done. let dig into all this with our saturday night all-star panel. our guest is a comedian and host with a podcast. we managed to get him on the show tonight because he's on tour right now. make sure and catch a show. francesca is a comedian and host of a podcast. i wonder what you do on that podcast. and tara setmeyer is the former communications director and resident skolor at the uva center for politics. matt, you're currently on tour pop i'm sure when you're out there in front of the crowds, you're hearing them scream

"filibuster reform, filibuster reform", right? that's what the folks are saying? >> that's the number one thing people are saying when i show up. i'm known as filibuster maas over here. this filibuster thing, first of all, is crazy they don't actually have to filibuster. they just say i'm filibustering, but no one is standing there reading pages and pages of something for days and days. i'm going to start using that strategy. i'm going to say i'm running marathons, but i won't run them, i'll just say i ran them. so that's my filibuster. so that's number one on the filibuster. number two, it is crazy that it feels like the democrats have great ideas but they don't have the cojones to get them passed and the republicans have horrible ideas and i feel like

everyone who worked hard to get the majority elected, everyone feels betrayed. it like we gave the football to our quarterback and he keeps taking a knee. why is he taking a knee? he goes, well, i'm waiting for the other team to be ready. hey, news alert, democrats, they're never going to be ready! get rid of the filibuster. >> we're waiting for their defense to get in formation so we can run this play. i mean, francesca, we just literally played this montage of democrats saying they believe the republicans are negotiating in good faith. honestly, i'm not a politician. it's hard for me to believe that senator tim scott, who is up for reelection, who has made this whole issue about the democrats wanting to -- how is congress expected to operate given the way the minority party is able to simply block everything and

democrats falling for these good faith negotiations? >> it is in completely bad faith, right? that's why we all wish that there was a good faith republican party. i mean maybe sort of, are they or are they not that good? in theory, you wish that as the president says that you can work with these republicans. but he's been in office so long, these been in politics so long, maybe he hasn't just how right wing our country has shifted, right, just how uneven the playing field is. especially on police reform, this is an issue where there is such a gulf between congress people and are supposed to represent us and americans every day who are overpoliced who are seeing their communities turned into war zones when they want to peacefully demonstration. it's so sad this was a framework. this was like a nothing. it was like maybe we could have

some accountability but not too much, just a little bit. and like, no! that suddenly means defund the police. it absolutely does not. >> it literally didn't take much for tim scott to come out and say the reason why the talks broke down is because democrats wanted to defund the police, something that jim clyburn and everybody on down has rejected among democrats. i want to ask you, though, the filibuster not mentioned in the constitution. the heritage foundation says the filibuster is important because it enables all senators representing all 50 states to participate in every piece of legislation. and to be fair, it was intended to slow things down. perhaps they encouraged some kind of compromise. but you cot to ask to francesca's point has compromise become a dirty word in our politics given the party and the way they are? what are your thoughts on filibuster reform? >> i agree with the intent of the filibuster initially. it was to protect the tyranny of

the majority. the republican party has become bad faith negotiators in every rear expect, including in the senate, which is supposed to be the greatest deliberative body in the world. where i want people to take pause and be careful what you wish for. you get rid of the filibuster and republicans take over congress next time and guess what, they change the rules and reverse everything that democrats put in place. you do not want this seesaw every two years they change the senate rules to favor the party that controls it then. democrats did this before when they changed the rules for judicial nominations when harry reed was nominated. and they came back and said we'll change the rules for supreme court justices. look what happened there. you need to be careful what you wish for here with that. when you have such a slim majority, you have to make sure all the democrats, if you change the filibuster rules, you still

have to worry about all the democrats being on board. you have to know that joe mancion fall in line and then you have other battles in places like georgia and arizona. they're not going to just jump on board to change senate rules like that. we need to think about this. i get the knee-jerk reaction to want to pass really important legislation, but you need to be careful and think about the long game. i get it. the republicans would have been the worst and they need the rules but we need to be careful when we start changing institutional things. >> the way that i see it and correct me if i'm wrong, it just means that elections matter. you have a mandate to govern. people in america voted because they wanted the democratic agenda passed and now they can't pass. all you're saying it boils down

to is it means elections are going to have more consequences and that means more people have to turn out to vote and be more committed because that's what happened in places, other democracies around the country. the majority party has the mandate to pass their agenda. if they fail, they get voted out. >> can i just jump in? can i just say something really fast about your point that the american people voted for the democrats' agenda. i don't know that that's true. >> what do you mean? >> well, joe biden won because it was a referendum on donald trump. it was not a policy election last time around. >> and senate. >> it's and democrat lost seats. >> it doesn't matter if they lost seats. it matters that they went to the polls, they have the majority, they are the majority party. that means people have given them a mandate to govern. >> not the big things. the bigger thing where the

senate is supposed to compromise and have balance, that's why there's supposed to be some compromise. people say they want compromise, it polls well all the time but is it practical? i don't know. >> voting rights are a big issue for people in georgia, they voted and put two democratic senators in. i can't think of a bigger issue for voting rights. >> you started saying it's a filibuster, nobody's on the streets we got to reform the fi filibuster. can we change the word? just call it pizza and people would be on the streets. why is filibuster reform necessary? what are the so-called radical things that the democratic agenda is trying to accomplish? it is things like the for the people act, it is things like the pro act. it is expanding the rights of voters and of american citizens to be able to vote so that their states don't steadily chip away

at those rights as we're seeing right now. it is the ability to form a union and organize with your fellow workers. those are things that will benefit no matter whether you're republican or democrat, all people. this is about the health of democracy. but we can't even get there. i just want to say, we have to talk about the senate. the senate is not a representative body of americans, right? republicans in the senate represent -- they are the same, there's equal amounts and they represent fewer people altogether population-wise whereas democrats have the exact same amounts and represent far more americans. in and of itself having two senators per state, right, is not actually a democratic -- it not actually a representative body. so that's the broader picture. >> today? >> sure, but if everything goes through the senate, what are we're getting done actually? nothing. zero. we can't even protect voting

rights. last thing i'll say is today arizona democrats voted for a no confidence vote against kirsten sinema, saying if she does not vote against to reform the filibuster and actually get something done, they have no more confidence in her, they're pulling their support for her. we have to look at the democrats, too. they are not pulling their weight. i don't know who they're answering to but it's a good question to ask. >> final word. i think the threat if we don't get rid of the filibuster, the voting laws we're passing around the country are going to make it such that a minority of americans will be determining the laws and the rules for a majority. so there's a lot of -- the voting rights act is a very, very important law that needs to be passed and the only way it's going to get passed is through the filibuster. so i agree with francesca on

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at this point being on facebook is kind of like being in a bad relationship. all of your friends are warning you, don't you think they're a little image obsessed, be toxic at times? it's hard not to fall into old habits at night. you log back in when no one is looking, catch up and things feel okay again and then, bam, they're letting in their anti-vax friend and telling about their new miracle cure for

covid-19 and you think maybe it's time to take a break. that's what a group wants users to do. they're putting together a nationwide boycott of facebook. our panel is back to discuss it. new to the panel is alex kantrowitz. he's a cnbc contributor and author of "of always day one, how the tech titans plan to stay on top forever." that is a scary title, alex, i'm not going to lie. i just teased a little bit about this relationship advice you're going to give me. you wrote about facebook survival dilemma. you said it would be misguided to argue the company is responsible for a lot of good in the world. i saw that in the middle east in the arab spring when facebook helped protesters organize their messages. facebook at the same time will always pick survival. talk to me about what you mean

by that. >> i mean we see all this bad that facebook does. facebook, i do believe that it's a net good for society, but there's so many down sides. the question is what do you do with the down sides? we find this company in a very interesting moment. it is beset by competition, snapchat, youtube, all nipping at its heels. any changes it makes, it will open the doors for these companies to come in and take users. i think the company should slow down information and put a stopgap on the share button and don't share entirely on emotion. but, again, i think they understand that if they start to take their foot off the gas pedal, they open the door to competitors and they don't want to do that and i think that's the tragedy of facebook right now. >> it seems like almost every day there's a new story about something facebook is doing

wrong. do you have think it will ever be enough for people to take the plunge and log off? >> ayman, i didn't know people were still on facebook, i thought it was just my grandparents, but that's fine. listen, here's the thing, man. i have a friend who sends me stuff from facebook. he gets his research from facebook and it's gotten to the point every time i get a text from him with a link, before i even open it i roll my eyes because i know what's coming. i go, oh, here we go. it's a lengthy diatribe about the clinton foundation and how coronavirus is a hoax. at the very end it says "signed amanda, please share." so it's nuts. people are getting their research from this and the fact is they're on their phone, they're on their computer. all they need to do is take three seconds, go to google, just search and see if this thing they're sending me has any

validity. do five seconds of searching before you share. google you share. this is not an ad for google but that's what i recommend. >> i was old enough to remember when people had the pope on and used to be able to poll people for information. let's talk about one of these bomb shell wall street journal reports. they say facebook makes body image worse for women. "the wall street journal" claim those reports, quote, contain deliberate mischaracterizations and converted false motives to

facebook's leadership and employees. what's the challenge that instagram posed for young women in this country, the glamorous life that's often celebrated on instagram? >> it's rough. i mean, we all feel that way. it's a fomo app. it's like what am i not doing right? you don't need data to tell you that instagram is making your life miserable. you're on instagram. you get it. as an adult you can sort of, all right, i'm bigger than this. but as a young adolescent, you're not. facebook knows that. facebook's goal is to make the user outraged. it runs on outrage like so much of the internet runs on outrage. let's be real. that's what click bait is. i've done a lot of videos for facebook. if you don't make people puke, cry or scream in the first three seconds of your video, you failed. and we all know that that's how it works. so the profit model is outrage.

if the profit model is outrage, what do we do? we have to eventually look tho to doing something that senator elizabeth warren has said and get to big technical and make sure that are multiple people getting us to click. >> there's a lot of outrage to go around. no one should have a monopoly on outrage. it seems that facebook isn't just bad for our mental health. we joke around about some of the other stuff about fomo but there is a real consequence on physical health, too. this was put out by folks at nbc news. they found that anti-vaccine groups are encouraging patients to leave the icus so they can actually self-medicate with unproven treatments at home. facebook claims they're tracking down on these dangerous messages but the reality is they just can't do it fast enough. what do you think needs to be done here? how do you kind of deal with disinformation and is it a very

slippery slope that you start going down political censorship? and before you know it, you're taking off misinformation not just about health but political discourse and god knows there's a lot of misinformation about politics in social media. >> that's the challenge, right? i'm not sure what the solution is. it a private company. we have first amendment rights in this country. we have freedom of speech. what do we start regulating the thought police here now with social media and then what does that lead to? so it's a difficult, complex situation here where i think what we need to do is continue to point out where misinformation and disinformation happens. there has to be an onus and responsibility put on these social media platforms to make sure that that type of -- what we know is factually wrong, they have to police themselves. facebook is try doing that, right? they have this board and they're trying to -- they took trump off and they took off all of these q

qanon folks. it's a start. it's becoming a life-or-death situation, right? i was today in washington, d.c., i went to the lincoln memorial where they have this display with the 684,000-plus flags at memorials for people who have lost their lives to covid. i shed tears. i looked at how many of those lives were needlessly lost. how many of these people listened to the asanine things on facebook that someone shared that cost them their lines? how do we stop this misinformation? it literally about life or death. i'm not sure how to do it. it going to take time and responsibility and pressure to make sure we point out what

disinformation is out there and what it looks like. to the point about googling things first, it sounds good but i narrated an emmy nominated documentary and we talked about how even google grades information. they microtarget. even their personal information is to sway you with information one way or another. so we're kind of screwed no matter what we do. >> go ahead. >> so use bing, use microsoft bing. i don't care. just research before you send me a nameless thing. >> i want to see your stock portfolio after the show. you got to keep it general. you can't be plugging products like that. alex, help me wrap my head around this. you got the taliban spokesperson on facebook, on twitter. you got the leaders of iran on twitter, on facebook, and yet

you don't have former president trump. and i understand the argument of why he shouldn't be on. i don't agree with it. i don't believe in anyone being censored. how would you explain that from a tech giant -- or a tech company's explanation here, if you can? >> yeah. it's really weird and inconsistent. and that's sort of the story about these companies, that they just make stuff up ad hoc and they find a situation here where they don't like what the president has said and they ban him but now the taliban, they start fresh as a government. we know who they are. there's no surprises there. but they remain on the platform. i think it's important to point out that we're kidding ourselves if we think facebook can solve all the world's ills. why aren't people googling the facts or binging it? all this plays to confirmation bias.

people have lost faith in the institutions and they are willingly spreading the stuff, even though they know it's not true. it's funny, because now we say should we be banning the taliban? first of all, i think they should. the more time we spend talking about it and ignoring the key problems, the fact we messed up afghanistan the way we did. what about shoring up our institutions so we have less corruption than otherwise. we're asking facebook to clean up society's mess. facebook does contribute to it but it's not the only factor. >> you're telling me not to break up with facebook. is that your relationship advice for the evening? >> i'm so glad you asked. the way the groups are going about it. they're saying take three days away from facebook. that's how they'll pay attention. they'll notice when the users, the people that they make money off of, go away. i mean, come on. anyone who has had a relationship dispute knows you

don't walk out the door for three days and walk back in and be like, so, you fix it yet? no, you point out the problems in the relationship and say i care about you and i want to work with you on this. and if it doesn't work out then maybe i have to leave. you can't just say, facebook, you're wrong about everything, fix it, we'll be back in three days. you have to point to specific features and problems and policies that can actually get the social network to improve the experience there. that's why i point out the share at the beginning of this. if we share with more thoughtfulness and less emotion, our society will be in a better place. if this group wants to be effective, target a specific feature facebook can improve and go from there. >> francesca, final word. >> i think we're thinking too small. facebook has been given so many

warnings. how many exposes do we need? they have lost the right to our data. they've proved that again and again with cambridge analytica. hill low, steve bannon is big brother. how much do you need to know to get off facebook, stay off facebook and get off big tech. >> i appreciate that. don't go anywhere, we have a lot more to talk about. the u.n. general assembly saw its usual cast of diplomats this week with a few surprises. ♪♪ ♪♪ t on wheels. a choice that requires no explanation. it's where safe and daring seamlessly intersect. it's understated, yet over-delivers. it is truly the mercedes-benz of sports sedans.

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before the break we played some of president biden's u.n. general assembly speech where he claimed that the united states was not at war, which, again,

might be news to more than 80 countries around the world where the u.s. currently has military bases. now let's break down the president's big week with our panel once again. maz, i'll start with you. it was a big debut on the stage for president biden. he's been in the role many times but this was the first time speaking on the world stage as president. let's listen to what he had to say. >> our own success is bound up in others succeeding as well. we deliver for our own people, and we must also engage deeply with the rest of the world to ensure that our own future must work together with other partners, our partners toward a shared future. our security, our prosperity and our very freedoms are interconnected, in my view, as never before.

>> i know you're like me, maz, you like to keep an eye on what's happening beyond our borders. what do you make of the president's performance? did it make an impact? how do you reconcile what the u.s. says on the world stage with what it actually does on the world stage? >> first of all, ayman, you pointed out in the previous segment how entertaining bts us and how unentertaining these politicians were. imagine if biden was to sing it. i don't know. i'm trying to my best to make this exciting for the guy. i'm just giving suggestions, all right? that's number one. number two, let's face it, the bar following the previous president was pretty low. all you got to do is show up and not say -- get laughed at. just don't get laughed at going "putin's my guy" just don't say that. you'll be fine. thirdly, though, you can't say we're doing diplomacy, meanwhile

we all know with the pullout in afghanistan and the things that just happened with australia, the u.s. seems to still be going at it alone and that's upsetting a lot of the allies. however, the one thing i will say is, look, we are whether you like it or not, there's a military industrial complex, military is our main thing, that's what we do. to turn this big tanker around is going to be slow. it's going to take time. and the fact that we're not currently in a war in afghanistan, i guess that's progress. i mean, again, setting the bar low, given that we're always in a war somewhere, we still have a lot of military all over the world and it remains to be seen if americans can finally turn the paradigm around and take all the money we throw at our military all the time and maybe give a little bit to some teachers or something. >> we're going to get into that in just a moment. the ultimatum given to the

palestinian leader to israel accusing them of ethnic cleansing. joe biden said he's committed to a two-state solution. do you think anyone cares about this ultimatum? >> um, i mean, this is not going to get solved in a year. the two-state solution has been something that multiple administrations have tried to achieve. i mean, the last administration we won't really count them because their foreign policy was problematic in a number of ways, you know. but this is something that, you know, i don't know about pushing that deadline. however the politics in israel have changed, netanyahu isn't there anymore so maybe there is an opening for a two-state solution. the greater point about whether america is still going at it alone, let's be clear here. joe biden gave a fairly strong speech at the u.n. where he reassured our allies that america is still here to support

our international and strategic partnerships, whether it was nato, eu, the african union, our quad partnership with japan, australia and india. these are really important alliances that were virtually destroyed for the most part by donald trump's america first policy. so i think that even though the biden administration has had some challenges, whether it was afghanistan or what happened with the submarine issue in france, we still need the important presence of our military because of deterrence and reassurance. there's a lot of bad stuff and bad actors still out there in the world and america is still the strongest super power. >> francesca, you had another story this week, the pact between the u.s. and australia and nuclear arms. franc was upset france went so far as to withdraw their ambassadors from the u.s.

let me play what boris johnson had to say about this. >> i just think it's time for some of our dearest friends around the world to get a grip around this and because this is fundamentally a great step forward for global security. >> so my french sucksucks, but think what he was trying to say is get a grip and i'm not even sure what the other part of it was. it's important to note that joe biden and macron have made up a little bit. do you think our allies really are still, you know, they're standing by us, trust us to make the right decision about afghanistan and now this? >> yeah, i mean, i do think that maybe the biden speech needed a little bit of a, like, hey, sorry about a lot of things, you know, winding down the war on terror means we didn't listen to you, the u.n. hey, remember that?

>> we lied to you at the u.n. about iraq. >> yeah, sorry about the lies. yeah, those were bad lies. so i think there's that obviously. i think the bigger issue with this whole submarine thing, look, between like, who's selling nuclear submarines or whatever, but i think the issue is, this is all pivoting against china. while joe biden is trying to create legacy about winding down this war on terror, he simultaneously is ramping up anti-china rhetoric and is that where we need to be going with our foreign policy and i would argue that the answer is no. if you can't say one thing, say we're looking forward, not backward and simultaneously ramp up any aggression against china. i think we work with china, especially when it comes to climate change and thank you for doing that entire segment about

the number of military bases around the world because actually, military bases are a huge contributor to climate change. >> we'll have to leave it that. one more for you. francesca and terra coming up. with aoc's last minute change, a sign of hypocrisy or something more politically astute going on here? i'll discuss that with my panel when we come right back. t with when we come right back. ♪ limu emu & doug ♪ got a couple of bogeys on your six, limu. they need customized car insurance from liberty mutual so they only pay for what they need. what do you say we see what this bird can do? woooooooooooooo... we are not getting you a helicopter. looks like we're walking, kid. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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