including jamila jayapal who chairs the progressive caucus have insist they'd will not approve the snaler bill without assurances for moderates and support the larger one. yesterday pelosi expressed confidence the democrats would unite this week. >> you know, i'm never bringing a bill to the floor that doesn't have the votes. you cannot choose the date. you have to go when you have the votes in a reasonable time, and we will. let me just say we're going to pass the bill this week. >> pelosi also conceded yesterday the larger spending

lil will likely need to be cut down, even though it's unclear how far they're willing to go. >> it sounds like the smaller number is going to be somewhat larger than that. >> that's evident. those not in agreement with the president, let's see what the -- let's not talk about numbers and dollars. let's talk about values. >> democratic senators joe manchin of west virginia and kyrsten sinema of arizona have both previously said they would not support a $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill. manchin has previously imposed a price tag of near $3.5 trillion after the initial figure of $6 trillion. to germany now where for the first time in 16 year as new party will lead the country's

government. social democrats narrowly won by just 1.8%. merkel had announced in 2018 she would not seek a fifth term. her successor, however, still in the air. the winning party does not automatically appoint the next chancellor. instead the party will vote after a new coalition will form. the main contender will likely be the minister olaf scholz. joining us now, nbc correspondent matt bradley. thank you for being here. many may not be as familiar with the ins and outs of the german government as you and i are. can you walk us through what will go on next there? >> reporter: jonathan, you gave a very good summary. i've been reading some of the

coverage this morning. as you mentioned, the chancellor has not been cchosen. angela merkel remain the chancellor. she's been in that position for 16 years. she's going to stay in that post until the negotiations are finished. last time it lasted for six months. angela merkel could still be in office for quite a while. it was a pretty big defeat for angela merkel's christian democrats. they're the weekest they've been perhaps in history. for the social democrats they're eenl a hair ahead of angela merkel's party and that gives them somewhat of an advantage when it comes to forming this coalition, but it doesn't mean they're going to be ushered into power in some sort of winner-takes-all scenario. even when they do form the coalition, even when there is a new chancellor or olaf scholz or someone else, they're not going

to enjoy the broad power than they would had they won outright in that sort of party line vote. instead, they're going to be sharing power. this is probably going to be a very big share. they're going to have to form a coalition probably with three different parties, and those parties are going to span the ideological spectrum. it's not going to be a center left social democratic kind of coalition government. the olaf scholz has already said last night after the results were announced, he's planning on asking the leftist green party to be part of his coalition as well as the more libertarian kind of financial left party. this is going to be a coalition that is going to be very watered down. it's not going to be some sort of ideologically strong left or right or extreme group. it's going to be a lot like the current government, and olaf scholz as you mentioned is a member of the current government, so we need to

emphasize what happened last night, what happened yesterday. the german public did not vote for dramatic change. they voted for continuity. for 16 years after angela merkel, it looks as if the german public is not done with her. they want her to remain. they want her consensus style of politics to continue to exist here in germany. >> let's talk about angela merkel for a minute and what her legacy will be, and whoever her successor will be, what position will they have in the world and also in europe? for years merkel was seen as the loudest, most powerful voice on the continent. will that remain true for her successor, or will we hear from others across europe? >> it's unclear. if it's scholz, it will be him.

again, all of this hangs on those coalition negotiations that could last for several months. now, whoever becomes the next chancellor, they're not going to enjoy the same level of global esteem that angela merkel has had for so long. angela merkel is practically royalty at this point. she has that same kind of gravitas on the international stage. show's been called the queen of europe, and in many ways, the leader of the free world, at least poenls of donald trump liked to call her that. that mantle might be passed on now whoever takes over the merkel chancellorship if they have that personality and leadership capability that merkel had for so long. but, look, jonathan. we have to remember that angela merkel was more a technocrat than anything else. she didn't impose any hard-line vision for the future of

germany. i spoke with an analyst yesterday -- excuse me -- the other day, and she had a very good way of putting this, that angela merkel resolved quite a lot of problems, but she didn't solve the problems. those problems are financial and economic insecurity, and in the european union, a lot of the appetite for existing the european union we saw in the immigration issues, these are issues that will continue to exist even with angela merkel not stewarding everyone through them. >> matt bradley, thank you for this. stay with the story in the days weeks ahead. i have to say i'm glad we got to run the angela merkel bird sanctuary picture. and still ahead, the amtrak derailment. we'll look at that story. and a check of the weather when we come right back on this monday morning. er when we come right back on this monday morning

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the border is reopened after having been closed for a week. they were forced to close the southern border after nearly 15,000 migrants set up camp at the sight. they reopened the area to traffic and pedestrian traffic saturday afternoon. officials say most of the migrants who gathered there were haitians. some have been deported. others are waiting to still get processed to enter the united states. >> of the 17,400 who weren't deported back or didn't return on their own to mexico, how many of them have -- first, how many have been released into the u.s.? >> they're released on conditions. approximately, i think it's about 10,000 or so, 12,000. we have enforcement guidelines in place that provide that individuals who are recent border crossers, who do not show up for their hearings, are enforcement priorities and will be removed.

it is our intention to remove them. that is what our policies are. >> president biden condemned border patrol officers who used horses to deter haitian immigrants from the encampment site. images show immigrants being deterred by horses and what appeared to be leather iranians. they have temporarily suspended the use of horses at the border which have been used since 1924. on friday president biden was asked if he has failed in his immigration policy and if he takes responsibility for these recent actions. >> of course, i take responsibility. i'm president. it was horrible what we saw. to see people treated like they did, horses barely running them over and people being strapped, it's outrageous. i promise you, those people will pay. there's an investigation under way arngd there will be consequences.

there will be consequences. it's an embarrassment. it's beyond an embarrassment. it's dangerous. it's wrong. it sends the wrong message around the world. it sends the wrong message at home. not who we are. >> governor greg abbott said he would hire any agent who faces termination. >> the president said going after the border patrol who were risking their lives and working so hard to try to secure the border, if he takes any action against them whatsoever, i have worked side by side with those border patrol agents. i want them to know something. if they're at risk for losing their job by a president who's abandoning his job to secure the border, i will hire you to help texas secure our border. >> meanwhile the ntsb are looking into the cause of an amtrak derailment over the weekend that killed three and injured others in montana.

nbc correspondent's reporter has the story. >> reporter: it happened ott a beautiful day. passengers and crew members drew to a halt as the amtrak train derailed? oh, my god. it's on its side. all of a sudden we were on our side. i'm a pretty big guy. it picked me up and through me into the wall. >> we rushed up to the ladders to get to the windows broken out to get to people who were screaming inside to get out. >> they had provisions, jaws of life. they had to cut into one of the cars to extract individuals. >> reporter: it took place during a remote place near joplin, montana. amtrak confirming three people were killed, dozens more injured, many put up at a local high school. past derailments have often

resulted from going into a corner too fast like this one in philadelphia in 2015 or a section of track blocked misaligned. now they're asking why this train went off the rails when the track was straight. >> it's got something with the train cars themselves and how they connected with the track or some fault or flaw in the track. >> reporter: on a per-mile basis, rail travel is far safer than traveling by car, and recent years have seen safety improvements like positive control systems that automatically keep trains at safe speeds, but rails are a constant challenge. it will be one area that investigators will examine as crews work to clear the area of this well traveled rail corridor. >> our thanks to jake ward. still ahead, what's being

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and it's good. >> it's good. >> oh, my goodness. >> field goal attempts for two of the biggest plays across the nfl yesterday. first you heard the dramatic call of the jaguars with a missed field goal for a touchdown. the exciting kick-six wasn't enough. cardinals still win, 31-19. and that was kicker justin tucker drilling the ball. it gives baltimore a 19-17 win over the detroit lions. now to san francisco and the 49ers hosting the packers on "sunday night football." we'll pick things up at the end of the fourth quarter, the packers trailing by a point with no time-outs 357bd seconds left on the clock. quarterback aaron rodgers spoiled arizona's comeback by comparing deep passes into field goal range and a 51 yard kick on the final play. it's good. 30-28, packers win. turning now, if we must, to

major league baseball, as teams rally for postseason position in the final week of the regular season. we begin sadly in boston. you know, i tried to get this segment killed. this is a bad call and changed the game. this eighth inning rally was powered by the umpire's mistake and the two-run homer from arron judge and this two-run from giancarlos stanton. the yankees win this one, 6-3, and they completed a three-game sweep of the red sox at fenway park. it gives them a one-way lead over boston for a top spot. meanwhile toronto blue jays are one game out of the second spot. yesterday's win gave them two out of three over the twins over the weekend. this may come down to d difficulty of the six games remaining for each team. the road is seemingly narrow for

the red sox. they finished with a three against the woeful nationals while the yankees play against the surging blue jays and enend another with the a.l. league leading race. it's still a tight race for the national league west with two games separating the dodgers from the giants atop the division this. one is likely to be settled by who's better set to play against the padres. the n.l. east will look like it comes down to the wire with 2 1/2 games separating the braves and phillies before they start a three-game series tomorrow night. meanwhile the cardinals are tightening their grip on the second n.l. wild-card spot. they swept the cubs, their 16th in a row. with that and a wild-card spot, the magic number for st. louis

to clench is now down to one. >> and finally, what could be the start of a new era for ryder cup golf. after losses in nine of the last 12 ryder cup competitions, the u.s. washed away decades of defeat on the shores yesterday. the younger player in ryder cup history handed them the biggest loss ever with a win at whistling straits in wisconsin. let's go to the weather. bill karins is here. good morning. thank you for getting up and being with us. tell us how things are looking today. >> things are looking pretty quiet. you have the orioles and the nationals coming up. the red sox have nothing to fear whatsoever. you'll easily get into the playoffs playing those two teams. you won't choke that way. we'll leave it at that. it was a quiet weather pattern, beautiful for so many people. summer is holding on. notice the sun's setting earlier, but the temperatures are supposed to be cooling off. the temperatures are going to be

in 90s all the way up to the dakotas. it's a warm record pattern. st. louis could have possible record highs. kansas city, des moines. it's going to be a very warm week ahead, and there's no sign of any big cooldown. temperatures will return to the midwest kind of back to normal by the middle of the week. we also have a huge hurricane out there. we get a couple of these every hurricane season. sometimes they head for land. sometimes they don't. this with one is a don't. it's going to even miss bermuda. it's going to be harmlessly out to sea. i's category 4, but this one unlike previous years will stay well off the u.s. east coast. for today, enjoy another beautiful fall-like day, almost like summer, jonathan. >> bill karins, thank you so much. still ahead, america's top military brass will appear on capitol hill for the first time since taliban's rapid takeover of app afghanistan. jake sherman joins us for that.

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against the budget reconciliation package until the house passes the bipartisan infrastructure bill are now on board for a big spending bill. according to axios, they're promising to vote for the $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation package. three days before a potential shutdown the senate will hold what will likely be a failed vote tonight on a house passed bill to fund the government through december 3rd. axios reports the backup plan would be a continuing clean resolution stripped of raising the debt, which republicans say they won't support and the democrats have spent the last week preparing. to avoid a shutdown on thursday without a funding bill, democrats will need to attach legislation to part of their reconciliation package that would increase the debt ceiling. also as democrats raise to pass the president's sweeping infrastructure agenda while trying to avoid a shutdown, top

defense officials will testify before congress this week on the chaotic u.s. withdrawal from afghanistan. chairman of the joint chiefs of staff mark milley, defense secretary lied austin and kenneth mckenzie will appear before the arms services committee tomorrow and on wednesday. the three owe are expected to be grilled on the last month's troop withdrawal from afghanistan including the isis bombing that kill 13d americans and scores of afghanistan. they're also going to be pressed on an air strike in which ten afghans were killed in which mckenzie called, quote, a tragic mistake. joining me now, co-founder of "punchbowl news," jake sherman. he's an nbc political contributor and may not be getting much sleep this week. thanks for joining us. talk to us about what we can expect this week from milley's testimony and other officials we'll hear on capitol hill talking about afghanistan. >> well, john, two things to keep in mind, right?

there's the afghan policy issue. there's legitimate questions about what we're doing, what we did and what we will do when it comes to afghanistan withdrawal obviously, and then, number two, the -- you know, what our future role is in afghanistan, whether we'll have diplomatic relations, what our capabilities are to combat terrorism there. so those are big questions. then there's the political questions, right? mark milley has seemingly been -- i don't want to -- he's been busy, i would say, talking to book authors, and there's been a lot of information about him dealing with the chinese and dealing with other political actors when it comes to bob woodward and bob costa's book, which is out and is getting a lot of buzz. so that's something that you'll see a lot of people ask about. remember, this committee is filled with a lot of ambitious politicians, people like tom cotton, john holy, rick scott. all people want to hear answers about that.

this might be one of the only opportunities to do so. think they is the general situation when it comes to the big hearing that will take place at the senate armed services tomorrow. >> no shortage of questions for milley. it's a big week on capitol hill and we're in. ing closer to the possibility of a government shutdown. how do you see this play out? will the government close? >> i don't think so, jon. the senate as you noted in your opening will vote tonight on a continuing resolution which also raises the debt limit. that won't pass. that will fail. then the senate will have to move to a clean government funding bill, which would preserve donald trump-era spending levels. so some republicans will be happy about that. it also will not include the debt limits. so i imagine that will pass with a large bipartisan majority. there are some questions as to whether the senate will shorten that stopgap measure from its

now due to expire december 3rd. taking two or three weeks wouldn't be entirely smart, but that's an option for them. then we get it to reconciliation and infrastructure. remember nancy pelosi over the weekend, she wants all three of those things passed together in this week, not in separate votes but all passed this week. that's a lot of legislating for a month, a quarter, or even a year. she wants to do it in a week. we'll see. that is the agenda for the house this week. >> yeah. let's stay with the democrats and their efforts to pass president biden's agenda. truism on the hill is that if speaker pelosi calls the vote, that means she has the votes. is that what's happening here, jake? walk us through it. >> no, i don't think so. pelosi see as a path to getting the votes. that's why i don't make much of the centrists saying they'll vote for the $3.5 trillion package. there is no package yet. we have to take it with a grain

of salt. it's a good sign suggesting people are going to come out and vote for this legislation. it doesn't mean anything yet because there is no legislation. the big question is can nancy pelosi convince them to vote for the infrastructure while they're making this reconciliation -- while they're getting this reconciliation bill together. that's a big question, but she has a couple days. they'll start debating that bill today and then they'll vote on it on thursday. so she has a couple of days to get this done, and that's her task. her task is to convince people that this large-scale package will get done as will the infrastructure bill. >> jake sherman of punch bowl news. terrific stuff. thanks for the clarity. we'll talk with you i'm sure. still ahead, the totally different tactics alleged to keep tabs on britney spears. "way too early" back in just a minute. "way too early" back in just a minute

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children eligible for the company's covid-19 vaccines within days. last week the pharmaceutical giant announced the first set of promising results from the major vaccine trial. the trial which has not been peer reviewed, found that one third of the dose give on the adults is proven safe for children. this comes close to the fda to approve a vaccine for children as pediatric cases rise exponentially. meanwhile a vaccine mandate has been blocked for the nation's largest school system. the mandate which affects over 150,000 workers in new york city required them to have at least one dose of the covid vaccine by tonight. the judge approved a temporary injunction and referred the case to a three-judge panel. they're expected to take up the motion on wednesday. as of last friday, 82% of

department employees have been vaccinated including 88% of teachers. joining us now, president and ceo of the biotechnology innovation organization, dr. michelle mcmurray-heath. thank you so much for joining us this morning. >> good morning. >> what would you say to those who oppose a vaccine mandate for public schools, whether it's teachers or staffers? >> it's 50 years too late. we already have many vaccines for kids to go to school. those almost 14 diseases are vaccinated against routinely at our schools across the nation, and we have to think about protecting the most vulnerabl among us. children have no choice go to school. we have to make every choice possible to protect them while they're there. >> we just saw president biden say he'll get a booster shot when he's eligible, but the

booster shot debate has divided medical experts especially after the fda advisory panel recommended the emergency use authorization for the pfizer shot for americans 65 and older and those at risk but rejected extending boosters for people under 65. what do you think? was this the right call? are they approaching this the right way? >> well, they're being very cautious and the data is still rolling in. a lot of the data we got from israel about booster shots being incredibly effective, we saw first those 65 and older because they were the first to be vaccinated and the first to need boosters. we expect more and more data to be coming in. you know, it's not unexpected that data is perhaps being overly cautious in this situation. fda has gone almost nine months without a permanent conditioner. their funding is not completely sure. we have do everything to protect this critical agency so they can speak with a clear voice,

increase transparency, and make sure america comes along with conditions that have confidence. >> there also seems to be wide leeway under what americans might qualify to get that booster. doctor, one more for you just now. pfizer is saying they think they could be on track for asking for emergency use authorization for their children, 5 through 11, maybe in a matter of days. this would be an extraordinary step, a relief to a lot of parents. when they starts happening, what you do think that will do to change the face of the pandemic here in the united states? >> it's critically important. look, we thought we were going to get this data over the summer, and fda went back and asked pfizer to do a much larger pediatric study. now we're doubly assured of the safety of these pediatric doses. we've seen pediatric cases increase.

it's so critically important we get these doses out. as the mother of a 9-year-old, i'm waiting with bated breath, and everyone is hoping the fda will get this out to the american public by halloween. that being said, they're up against the clock germany announced they'll get it out by the end of october. the u.s. does not want to be the second in line here. we want to be first. we urge the fda get through and put children in a safe situation. >> i got a 10-year-old and a 6-year-old so i hear you. >> doctor, thank you for being here. earlier in the show, we asked why are you awake. matt in minneapolis e-mails this. the cows don't quit, i have a trailer full of milk that needs mooo. >> jim sends us a clever picture

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>> i am glad you mentioned that. we are looking at is what house is trying to do to get this $3.5 billion bill. here is those two lawmakers you see on the screen are doing saying we are for the $3.5 trillion bill. they're trying to convince progressives they're not - it's an interesting place for these two. you saw the two senators, their faces there. they're two of the nine. a question for the rest of the week is going to be where is the rest of that group of centrists on this next bill. jonathan. >> it's going to be all about counting votes this week, hans. does speaker pelosi still believe that she will get the

needed votes to pass the bipartisan bill? >> you know look, her public statements are that she won't have a bill unless she has the votes. we have to take her to work. i don't think she has the votes. it's always in the future. she will get the votes and that's a crucial distinction. don't count nancy pelosi out. you mentioned this at the top sort of the amount of news. we almost have trumpian news cycle. we'll get a bunch of letters in our inbox. i expect they'll advance the story however big or incrementally. it could be big story or incremental advancement. there will be so many news cycle

on pelosi. whatever i am saying to you now in the morning is dated or if not by this afternoon, certainly by tomorrow morning. jonathan. >> trumpian level news cycle. fun. >> we are in for a week. our friends from the west coast when they wake up they have to digest a lot of news here. >> that's their fault for being in the west coast. hans, let's take a step back, there is a long way between here and there. if biden's infrastructure bill does pass, how does that change life for your everyday america. >> we walk through axios this morning. they'll basically change everything from how you drive to work, you will driving electric vehicles likely and you will have charging stations to how much child care you have. when you look at the totality of what biden trying to do is build back better agenda. it focuses on the working side

of things and trying to make sure they stay in the work force and there will be tax credits and universal pre-k in the back end of life and there will be another two years adolescence. another two years of free community college and there is some 400 billion for care workers. a lot of this work falls on women. that's one of the reasons why the biden administration focused on but its transportation and climate and every aspect of your daily routine could be altered and here is the big if, if everything gets through. we have not heard from sinema manchin. that's what the signals progressives are looking for the house. that's the end of the game this week. jonathan, happy hunting, it will

be some interesting reporting. >> hans, one last quick one, of course this all happens under the shadow of a potential government shutdown. what are you hearing as to where things stand. how likely would you put it that d.c. will go dark as of late friday night. >> i always say 35% probability. no one knows. it does seem like it could be an unforced era to not get some sort of funding across the bill. but the big debt ceiling vote that has to come some time in october. it's hydraulics of how democrats getting it done in terms of funding. how you get the debt ceiling deal, if there is a deal, it's a big issue. my probability meter is feeling risky this morning. >> hans nichols, thank you so much. there is about 35% chance we'll have you back.

thank you all for waking up way too early with us. it's the beginning of what will be the extraordinary eventful and newsy week on msnbc. now, stay tuned for "morning joe" which starts this moment. it's just turning to 6:00 a.m. on the east coast. good morning, welcome to "morning joe." it's monday, september 27th. it's a make or break week on capitol hill for democrats as supporters of the president raise to pass his signature plans. we are following key new developments in the government's push for vaccines. a first shot for kids and a third for some adults. the tony awards returned last night celebrating the best of broadway from before the pandemic. we'll get to all of