tonight we're going to be speaking with congresswoman alexandria cortez, she will be live with us in just a few minutes. it is of course just over 24 hours now until we are facing an absolutely pointless federal government shutdown. tomorrow at midnight. i say that it is absolutely pointless, and i mean in a technical sense. previous government shutdowns, we're all dumb. but they were at least nominally flurries. and there was some dispute, some policy matter which the two parties could not agree upon in a shutdown ensued until they could figure it out. in this case, i say this is a

pointless shutdown that we are facing tomorrow night, because, although republicans in the senate are blocking the legislation that would keep the federal government from shutting down, they are not doing so for any particular reason, they're not even really bothering to say why they're doing, they're only doing it, because they can. so we will talk with congresswoman cortez about that. as the house tonight passed legislation to keep the government open. and it's now gone to the senate where that idea will die, because of republican opposition. we'll talk with her about that in the high stakes fight that's underway right now, to try to pass the legislation that makes up the bulk of president biden's economic agenda. that is either going to happen, or it is not. if it's not, it looks like it will be because of too conservative democratic senators, joe manchin and -- who apparently do not want to pass president biden's agenda, but they won't say what they

want to pass instead. they're just saying no, and nobody really seems to know what they want to do instead. but they're blocking everything that's otherwise possible without them. again, aoc, congresswoman cortez will be with us live for the latest on this standoff in just a couple of minutes here. we will also be taking a look tonight won't be a very consequential decision, just announced by youtube. youtube which is of course owned by google now. youtube announced today, that they will finally start taking down anti vaccine misinformation videos. if you know people in your personal life, or in your work life, or at school or whatever. who have crazy misconceptions about vaccines, or who believe wildly untrue things about vaccines. anecdotally, at least when i found my own life, is that those beliefs, even among smart people, even among otherwise

regional people, are almost always, traced back to stuff this on youtube. to a single thing they saw on youtube, and because they watched that, youtube suggests they watched other similar things. and they ended up going down a rabbit hole, going into a universe in which they thought this was the available information about vaccines. these youtube videos that presents nonsense, and false information, about vaccines. as if that information is real, claims like there's microchips in the vaccines. or vaccines make you sterile. or vaccines of killed more people than covid has, where you don't need vaccines you just need these vitamins which you can get from clicking on the box in the corner of your screen, youtube videos that people watch on youtube, youtube videos that people watch embedded on facebook or twitter or other platforms, youtube just has been an absolute sewer for vaccine disinformation in fearmongering of all kinds. and the company today says that

they are going to finally take that down. this could be very consequential. and will be talking about that tonight with a reporter who has been all over that story. i have to tell you there's an amazing twist in that story to. we are vladimir putin's government, the government of russia is now angrily threatening youtube today, and threatening to take youtube off of all russian internet systems. they're threatening youtube. they're very upset with you too because, the russian governments kremlin funded propaganda networks have been promoting anti vaccine nonsense conspiracies, all over the world, particularly in western democracies. and the russian government is mad that that stuff, their government produce to target western democracies, is now getting taken down. it's amazing to see the russian government furious about this. like really the context stake here is disinformation, deliberately false information,

hyping fear about vaccines. with false information about them, russia is mad at that because they are like, wait, how can we destroy the west from within, by stoking extremism and decisiveness and self defeating radicalization in the united states and other western democracies. how can we continue to do, that which we've been so successful. a if these western technology companies no longer help us shovel that kremlin produce toxic waste into their social media streams. yet, we will cancel you you, do we need you for a war against the mines and democracies of the west. so, you toupees not distinguished itself, google has not distinguish itself in recent days in terms of caving to bullying and threats from the russian government. there is a big new twist on that tonight with this vaccine disinformation. we will have more and that tonight as well. we're also watching for reaction from trump world tonight. as the committee investigating the january 6th, trump

supporters attack on the u.s. capital on january 6th. that committee tonight has sent out 11 new subpoenas. demanding testimony and documents from people who were involved in the events of january 5th and january six, the rallies to essentially overthrow the election results, which immediately proceeded the capitol attack. today the guardian newspaper reported that former president trump, made clear to people who already got subpoenaed in this investigation, that he expects them to defy those subpoenas, and not turn up to testify. we will see. the group got subpoenas in the investigation like week where former trump administration officials including white house chief of staff mark meadows, also trump advisor steve bannon. the group that was a subpoena today was a much high less profiled group, people involved in setting up january 5th and six events, for which the pro trump crowds were summoned to washington, which then coy

easily quite readily turned into a mob that marched itself across the capital, and became a violent attack on the government. so we will see what happens with the subpoenas that went out last week. we'll see what happens with the new subpoenas to much lower profile people, who got them tonight. the week after the january 6th attacks, just a few days after the january 6th attack happened, texas democrat wendy davis, you remember her she was a democratic government oreo candidate. very high texas democrat. she did an interview with the texas tribune in which she said that, the january 6th attack on the capital should not have been that much of a surprise. it particularly should not been much of a surprise to texans. she made that argument because she had been on board this biden harris campaign bus, just a few days before the 2020 election. it was october --

november 3rd. that biden harris campaign bus was headed from san antonio to austin, with a car full of biden-harris volunteers, a whole crowd of vehicles bearing trump signs and trump flags, all surrounded them and tried to run them off the road, this was an interstate 35 in texas. it started apparently in the scent town of san maher in texas, those on the bus later explained they called police as the cars were trying to run them off the road, the police would not respond. police had helped protect them in san antonio. they had helped protect them in austin where they were heading ultimately. but in between, and that stretch of i-35, the police would not respond. and so the biden harris campaign bus, people on board that, the volunteers, they were left alone, and these trump supporters in this caravan, screamed at them and threatened them, tried to run the bus off the road, they almost succeeded in stopping the campaign bus, we they slow the bus down to

about 20 miles per hour on the interstate, also 1.1 of the trump vehicle steered into and hit the white vehicle there, that was following the bus. which was driven by biden-harris volunteers, that violence and intimidation, work that day. you see is still there of the trump supporter truck smashing into the white vehicle deliberately. that happened on i-35. that intimidation effort that day on the highway, it worked in the short run. it caused the campaign to cancel their planned event in texas that night, after they arrived at the destination. once video starts circulating of what happened there, particularly the, collision the fbi said that they would investigate, we but nothing apparently ever came of the fbi investigation. president trump, tweeted a video of the incident, and praised it,. i love texas. these patriots did nothing

long. florida republican senator marco rubio, told a trump rally, did you see it. we love what they did. nothing appears to have come out of any fbi investigation, no local law enforcement in texas bothered with it either, there were no consequences for anybody was involved in that. eventually last summer, this past summer, the bus driver, in the other people on board, brought a civil suit against the trump supporters who bragged about doing that online. bragged about running the bus off the road. bragged about hitting the volunteers vehicle. they filed that lawsuit as a civil case. and in june of this year, but i guess that still the only hope for any recourse, otherwise there's been no consequences for anybody. it got praised by trump. and by marco rubio. wendy davis said, after january six, incidents like that, where she was one of the targeted people, there should've been a red flag. that there was something wrong.

that align had been crossed in terms of violence in american politics. that trump supporters appeared to be poised for violence. and the lack of law enforcement taking it seriously at all, in fact the praise for the perpetrators. and the lack of any negative consequences for them, she warns that that was an emboldening thing, for anybody thinking they might be able to get away with threats and physical intimidation, and violence, as part of the trump movement. certainly what happened on october 30th, 2020 in texas, was a sign that they were good to go. if they wanted to do anything like that there would be no consequences for. that's october 30th. three days later was november 2nd, the day before the election, and someone hit the democratic party headquarters. as well. in harris county, in houston. >> staffers arrived to work this morning to find the front door splashed with paint, it's locks filled with superglue. and slogan smeared on the front

window saying quote, don't vote. >> that was houston. harris county democratic party headquarters, on november 2nd. the day before the election. two weeks later, november 16th, it was travis county texas, democratic party headquarters there, in austin. headquarters smashed up windows broken, pay, graffiti. in that incident actually, at the austin democratic party headquarters, that was the reason that that democratic party headquarters, in that county, they got a new security system after that incident, we to be a democrat in texas, around the trump biden election season, was to face threats and intimidation and violence, on the campaign bus, at campaign headquarters. multiple campaign headquarters. in and all of those incidents, as far as we know, even all these months later, nobody was ever arrested. nothing was ever solved by law

enforcement. fbi never did anything. in the case of the biden bus being run off the road, and the biden campaign vehicle, driven by campaign volunteers that was following the bus, that actually being hit, being subject to a deliberate colic collision by a trump supporter, in that incident, local law enforcement did not solve whatever happened, there they didn't even care to try to stop it while the attack was underway, despite them giving multiple 9-1-1 calls while it was happening. they just chose not to do anything. this is the kind of thing for which the word emboldening was invented. but, these things have consequences. down the road. and they change the plot down the road, whether or not the perpetrators are in fact sort of made worse, and why they are emboldened by lack of law enforcement responds in a lack of consequences, because there's consequences on the other side too. the people who are targeted in these kind of attacks. it changes them to. and that can change the plot

sometimes. which we're going to show you tonight. because that last attack, the travis county democratic party headquarters attack in austin texas just after the election. where they had their windows smashed in pain in graffiti. that did lead travis county democrats, to install a whole new security system. linked security cameras. and because of that, because that was the consequence of that attack for them. i can now show you something that you should see. that happened last night. i will tell you, if you're listening to me and not watching, me i'm saying this because my partner susan is often cooking dinner doing other house things in not watching me live on the show is on, honey this is me telling you this is one of those things were actually you want to sit down and watch, this is a visual. it won't work just listening to it, i'm just saying. this is a visual and you want to see. it's remarkable that we have this, but what i'm going to

show you is something that takes place over a period about 12 minutes. i can break it down for you and show out goes. this is last night. it's actually early this morning. just after 2 am local time. in austin. travis county democratic party headquarters. roll the first video. this first video here. we will loop this. so you can see it, so you can get used to what you're seeing. this is obviously a dude, he is a flag nylon type thing on his head. a gray shirt. black shorts. black white sneakers. mask covering his face. in the vantage point here is an external security camera on the democratic headquarters building in austin. the dude throws a rock, some sort of projectile. maybe a chunk of concrete or something, and then he kind of princes away to the lower left-hand side of the screen afterwards. now look at the time stamp here. see the time stamp, see the date, that's today's day. wednesday 9:20 9:21, that's wednesday that's today. two of, this clip starts at

2:06 am. and 32 seconds. it goes about 70 seconds. let's show the next clip. look again at the time stamp here. just a few seconds later, there's about five seconds later. the guy scampered off to the little left screaming, it is obviously picking back up where he had been throwing. he comes back in through the lower left side of the screen, he makes another go at. he throws that rocker that chunk of concrete or whatever it is, he throws it at the same target harder. from a different angle. and again, he scampers away, and it is still, as you can see and the time stamp there it's two of 6 am. now it's 40 6:40 7:48 seconds by the time he scampers away. now, different cameras. same time. we have an interior view of that exact same moment. check the time stamp. you can see if the team's time stamp here, to a 6 am. 40 5:40 6:47, 48 seconds. and you can see here, we're looping this so you can see it, as the guy, whatever it is this

rock this chunk of concrete. he's throwing it at the democratic party headquarters, he actually breaks the window, you can see it come through the window. the time stamp shows us that the anterior view of what you just saw him doing outside of the sidewalk. we okay. that's all taking place between 2:06 into a 7 am, couple of different tries to break the window where the rock. we know from the anterior view it's the second try that appears to succeed, any breaks the window. we now watch this. look at the time stamp here. it's not to a 6 am anymore. it's taken about five, minutes four and a half minutes. to go away. and he's come back with something in his left hand walking down the same sidewalk. and you get a good view of his various head adornments here. but most clearly, you see something it is, left-hand it looks like a bottle is something sticking out of the top of it, and you see as he walks by the building, where he just threw the rock through the window down low by the ground, we see how he looks at it. he looks at that spot where he

just threw the rock through the window, he looks at that closely. as he walks, by just before he walks off the bottom. see him check out his handiwork. that's 2:11 am. now, two minutes later, it's 2:13 am. see the time stamp. dude walks back, the other way. crouches down, and put something in, there were just broke the window with the rock, the spot he was just looking at, with that bottle in his hand with that rag sticking out of the top of the bottle. he puts something through that place where he just threw the rock through the window. and look the bottle is not his hand anymore. and we know it is he was dropping in there at 2:13 am. because we have an internal feed. we have that internal camera at that same time. look at the time stamp. to 13. and you can see, that what he put through that window, what he put through the broken glass where he broke the window with that, rocket is on fire. some kind of lit incendiary

device. and would appears to be that bottle, with the rag sticking out of the top of it. that he was carrying in his left hand down the street just a moment ago. the bottle is there, laying on its side. some other thing is in there. that sparking. and on fire. in starting to below smoke, whatever it is, it starts to catch, and you can see it's starting to fill the democratic party headquarters in austin. filled up with smoke, again look at the time stamp. 2:13 am. and what we can see from the security footage, is apparently the guy who's doing this, recognizes that is now broken window, broken the, window put something through the window that appears to be a molotov cocktail and something else it's on fire, he apparently thinks that things are not going well enough. things are not burning bright enough. there hasn't been in a fire enough smoke enough damage. the threat is not brave enough yet. that firework or incendiary device which produces all the smoke and, there it goes for about four and a half five

minutes. but then four and a half five minutes down the road, he comes back. and again, this is an internal view. from the internal security camera. look at the time stamp. to 18. dude comes back with something else on fire through the broken glass, that he smashed where the fire and smoke it already started. as you can see this time he gets when he was looking for. we get a real fire. and considerably more smoke. at 2:18 and 41 seconds, we get a big foul on explosion. that larger explosion, the secondary explosion just seconds later, perhaps that the molotov cocktail finally going off. it blows. inside the democratic party headquarters, and we get -- and. curiously. we also know that the dude almost blows himself up in the process. here we know that because of the external view, look at the time stamp. the external camera caught him

at that exact moment, when he came back to put something else incendiary in there, to hopefully set up a larger explosion. just like we saw from the inside view it to 18, and about 34 seconds. he put something else on fire through the broken glass, through the window that he broke. and seconds later we see the smoke below in the flames leap out. and he takes off. almost such yourself on fire there in you. can also tell you from the external view that thankfully, not long after, just moments later, we see a neighbor arrived from across the, street with a fire extinguisher with. there he is. he tries to put it out. you see a car slow down to see what's going on. a neighbor who's trying to put it out, looks around to see where the guy went, to see who the attacker was, first of all, thank you to the neighbor. the second of all, they only have those cameras, because of

the previous attack on their offices. at the democratic party in travis county texas. now, we can tell you tonight, that the party has been told the fbi is treating this is a credible threat. we can also tell you that this attack was accompanied by a written threat to texas democrats, the exact content, or any sort of visual of that rain threat is not being released for security purposes. but we are told tonight it is explicitly political threat, the note says in essence, this is a warning. this will continue to happen. because democrats can keep states like new york in texas, new york in california, but not texas. and that no delivered alongside, the molotov cocktail, and those other incendiary's. and the broken window. violence and intimidation, as a means of trying to either achieve a political end, or defeat political processes, they don't go away on their own. violence and intimidation, if

you get away with them, they take root. they become the norm. unless they are punished. in this case, this stuff has not been punished thus far. and in fact it has been celebrated, and encouraged, and cheered, by the political party it's been designed to benefit. unless this stuff is punished it is emboldening. for the people who get away with. it because they know that intimidation and threats work. after the biden bus was attacked on i-35 in texas, just before the election, they did not win -- physical violence and intimidation worked in that instance. physical violence and intimidation works unless it's punished, and when it is not punished, and people get away with it, they do it more. we now have a political party, on the right, that is not interested in condemning stuff at all, in fact has praised it from the highest. levels even from the side of the party that's the reasonable side. we we ought to know what we can

expect from our society, our government, our law enforcement, for the perpetrators of this kind, of thing for people who commit political violence and intimidation. that needs to work better than it has, particularly in texas, as texas democrats have come under now repeated, and increasingly frequent violent intimidation. but, you know, the people doing this or not the only side of the story. we also need to look at the folks who are targeted for this kind of intimidation and violence. to see how it changes them. to see what we can do to hold them up. joining us now is the chair of the travis county democratic party in texas. her office was vandalized last night. i really appreciate you making time to be with us tonight. i'm sure it's a stressful time. >> it's definitely been an eventful morning to say the. least >> first let me tell you, did i explain any of that wrong in walking through this security footage, if that seems to you and your colleagues to

be sort of the way this unfolded, and the scope of the attack? >> and working with the austin fire department as well as the fbi, it is our understanding that that is definitely how events went, in fact, it was due to the ineptitude, of the perpetrator, or domestic terrorist if you, will he fits the definition of it. that were not for his inability to actually make the bomb go off, that our office would definitely have been put up into flames. and it's thankful to blake who works -- we are able to still come back to an office. and we did not have an entire office up in flames. ultimately, the molotov cocktail which was then followed by those fireworks, actually did not explode. that's why we were able to still have an office standing, and frankly, the letter that was of a company with that did come with a warning. and it was a clear message, a

political nature, but more importantly intimidation, and i wanted to share a message if you don't mind, with the person who left us a message. democrats in texas are not afraid. we have fought my entire life, and for generations, for the rights of black brown, young, hispanic, asian, in white americans to vote, we're fighting for your vote to. and we're fighting for our right to free speech. and we will fight every day at the ballot, bikes you may try to throw small bombs into our office. but we will be there at the ballot box this november voting, and in the democratic primary in 2022, in the general election in 2020, do and we will make sure our voices heard. because you will not silence us. there is more of us than you, you represent a small minority of hateful extremists. and i represent teachers, students, health care workers, small business owners, union members, artists, and everyone in our community. because we are going to stand

together united. we are one travis county, we are one democratic party. more importantly we are one state in one country to vote, into the democratic process. and our right to vote. >> i know the fbi has told you that they are treating this incident as a credible threat, and that sort of a term in law enforcement circles. what do you understand that means. and are you getting help from law enforcement, what actions are they taking, to protect you and your colleagues. you said you worked with austin's fire department today in terms of investigating this arson was sort of protection do you need now. what are you getting. >> the lieutenants we met with this morning as well as the captain of the arson units, for the fire department, as well as the fbi, and travis county sheriff's office, who's also investigating another incident nearby. as well as austin police department, have all let us know that they're open active

investigations. they are following leads, and that they do feel confident that some of those leads are going to get them to the perpetrator. i really have to think that, for their response, we may not always agree about comprehensive safety looks like in our community, but there are good people, and public servants who serve our community and we have to lift them. up it's a lot easier to try to burn down an office building, than to address the complexities of our community, and address the complexities of law enforcement, as well as black lives matter, and come together and say we are going to work through those complexities together as a community, that way people who are trying to divide us will not win overall. >> katie, chair of the travis -- thank you for your time tonight. i know this is a very stressful day. i appreciate you helping us understand. >> thank you so much. >> okay, we have much more to come tonight congresswoman

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.com, about the state of the democratic party, three months before the 2020 election. quote, progressives prepare to put the squeeze on biden, they're working to elect, him but there will be no honeymoon if he wins. that was three months before the election. this was political's headline one month before the election, progressives unveiled 2021 agenda, to pressure biden,. here's a bunch more headlines throughout the election, quote, no honeymoon. activists on the left prepare for possible biden pregnancy, progressives patients with biden wears thins, they turned out for biden now they want terrell's administration, progressives ready to push biden leftward immediately, noticing a theme? that was the unanimous beltway line when joe biden got elected. sure progressives helped him beat trump, but no honeymoon.

for the next four years progresses will be as worst nightmare. they'll be the thorn in biden side, as he tries to pass the agenda he campaigned on, which progressives will not like for some reason. and they will want him to do something else. we're less than a year into the biden presidency, but boy has that unanimous prediction turned out to be exactly and wonder percent totally wrong. right now, in congress, democrats are in the middle of a high stakes negotiations over how to pass the agenda, that joe biden ran as a presidential candidate, his biggest allies in that, fight the members of congress who are working the hardest, and willing to play hardball the most aggressively, to pass the agenda that biden ran on, it's the progressives. turns out they aren't a thorn in his side. they're the ones who are trying to get his agenda done. don't just take it from me, >>

i'm gonna stick to the plan of our party, to preserve the agenda of the president, and make sure that, send a message, that were clear, we will vote for this, if we also get the entire plan voted for. i think what's important to lay things out on the field, in the 96%, myself included, of the democratic party. is in agreement, that we need to pass both bills. >> 96% in agreement. i'm going to stick to the plan of our party to preserve the agenda of the president. as of now democrats plans are to hold a vote on the smaller bipartisan bill tomorrow. progressive say there's no reason to do that and they had no intention to passing that, unless and until biden's bill build back better bill, the big agenda item, moves as well. they are committed to what happens next? joining us now is new york congresswoman alexandria

ocasio-cortez, a member of the progressive caucus. congresswoman, it's a pleasure to have you, here thanks for your time. >> of course thank you for having me. >> i wanted to ask you, obviously we're getting to crunch time. there's some reporting tonight that the senate may have agreed amongst themselves that they will avert a government shutdown tomorrow night. that may take some of the immediate pressure off, but we're still obviously looking at the string of hurdles, in terms of passing the presidents big three and a half trillion dollar plan. is there a different conversation happening inside the progressive caucus? that is happening inside the democratic party caucus is a whole? i know the whole democratic caucuses meets now and i know the progressive needs amongst themselves. are those conversations materially me different? >> i think the conversations that happened within the progressive caucus, are very focused in how do we expand, child care, health care,

climate action, and restore power to working class people in the united states. that is what we talk about, every day, all the time, week to week. and, there may be some differences between the progressive caucus in the overall caucus, in some of those areas of conversation, but i would say that we have been laser focused on this agenda, in delivering for working class families across the country. all year. and that does not change, it's really just a discussion of how do we best do, that in a way that most people can feel it in their everyday lives. >> for people who don't follow congressional process very closely, a lot of people who i know, the their news judgment on these things, they say all of our intensive coverage of this process, and the will they won't they discussion is alienating a lot of people, none of the process makes much sense. the filibuster is a mystifying thing.

can you explain for folks who maybe have not been following this closely, why there is an insistence that this smaller bill tomorrow should not pass on its own, tomorrow right away, and then move on to the larger bill later? why is there an effort to link them both, and make sure the big bill, does not get delayed indefinitely after the small bill passes? >> i completely agree with you that a lot of this discussion about process in tit-for-tat, is very difficult to follow, and it doesn't really cover the heart of this conversation. which is that we have two bills at present. one which covers, which under funds most priorities across the board, there is very few priorities that get the full funding they even need. and then there's the larger what's known as the budget. bill reconciliation. bill that has this stuff that you are going to feel in your

everyday life. universal pre-k. we're talking about college, community colleges, we're talking about expansion of medicare, and were debating including vision and dental, in medicare. conversations about lowering the age of, it climate action, renewable energy. all of that stuff, that you are going to feel in your everyday life, is it in what's known as the build back better act. the reconciliation bill. now when we were discussing the scope of this bill. way earlier in the year, this was the original infrastructure bill. we have a vast majority of democrats, 96%, that are in agreement of the entire agenda. a very small handful of democrats, about 4% of the party, are trying to essentially split these two priorities up. and i personally don't think it's an accident that the ones that a lot of lobbyists love, are in this much smaller

underfunded bill, that don't make prescription drugs easier to buy, and more affordable etc. what they want to do is split them apart, force a vote on the first one, and because we have such a narrow margins in the senate in the house, the read that we have, is that villages dumped the second one. leave the other one out to dry, and just never actually vote on it. and so the way that we bring our to parts of the caucus together, is by saying, you know what, my bill is bound up in your, bill in your bill is bound up in my bill. do i love this very, what i would argue, a conservative underfunded bill? no. but i will vote for it, if we pursue them both together. but we should not take, is this approach, which is what people are trying to do, by forcing a vote tomorrow, on an under considered, under amended, bill by itself, by saying, we want to force this vote right now.

and it's either my way or the highway, we don't work together, i want your vote, and i will give you nothing for, it's the community will not benefit from this is much is mine will. we don't have to pursue that route. we can instead of saying, it's either minor yours, we can say both of us, can succeed together. and that is the case with the progressive caucus is making. but if we vote, for this bill, tomorrow, rachel, i want to be very clear about this. if we vote, for this underfunded to small infrastructure bill alone, instead of voting for it with the rest of the presidents agenda, if we vote for it alone, it could make our climate crisis worse, and it risks being the only or the last substitute of piece of legislation that we will pass. i do not believe, we do not have the assurances necessary, to believe, in good faith, that reconciliation will pass, if infrastructure passes tomorrow. because it gives that small

narrow margin of democrats, we that have really been making this process quite difficult, there was an overall agreement of the process two months ago. and then there was a reneging of that. so if we can just stick to our original plan. stick to the promises we made each other, we can proceed in good faith, and transform the lives of millions of americans for the better. >> do you feel optimistic it will happen? >> i do feel optimistic because the progressive caucus, and not just the progressive caucus, but we are now seeing a lot more democrats, even not part of the progressive caucus. joint and say you know, at childcare, health care, the climate crisis, this is too important to shelf. it's too important to shelf. and i also want to really think people at home, for supporting house democrats, who do not accept corporate pack in

lobbyist money. in those sorts of democrats, are not just progressive. they're not just conservative, they really transcend a lot of party ideology. but their recent phenomenon. and that has been starting since 2016 and 2018. and i really do believe that that is what's changing the dynamics that we're seeing in washington today. where that stranglehold, that lobbyists have traditionally have had over washington. it's still very much doing a lot of sectors, is starting to loosen. because every day american voters, and everyday people at home, are starting to support members of congress, and send members to congress, that don't just do what lobbyist tell them to do, but say we're gonna make tough decisions, this is a moment of heart burn, but i want to be clear that not voting for this tomorrow, is not a permit, is not a permanent decision. we can always reconsider it when the time is right. and when these tensions have

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said today that hands where they would take down content that contains misinformation about approved vaccines. if this works, if you to can effectively managed to keep that increasingly fatal toxic disinformation off their platform, it could be a big deal. how many people do you know in real life who have been slow waiting to get vaccinated, or

otherwise inexplicably opposed to getting vaccinated, because of something wrong that they saw and believed from youtube. already the company is facing blow back from this new policy, from among other places, the kremlin. because the recent government has been using its propaganda network worldwide. to gleefully spread anti vaccine disinformation all over the democratic west, because they are just that concerned for our health. joining us now is mark berke and he has been covering the story for bloomberg technology. thank you for coming back on the show. thank you for making time for. us >> yes thank you again for having. >> how hard will this be for you to to enforce? is this something that they might have resisted doing for a long time because it will be hard to actually effectuate? or is this something they respected believe resisted doing for other reasons? >> i think for to reason i think it's because their strategy so far, and remind you

that it's beginning 2019 and sort of historically, and also correct to vaccine and health in general, but since 2019 they basically had the ranking. youtube is owned by google, so think about when you search for something on google and you have to click through ten pages, which nobody does. it is a similar thing on youtube. it is hard to find. they're not reckon doing it, they're outsourcing videos. now they have decided that that is clearly not enough. i think a major issue with enforcing this policy will be the two loopholes that have been giving. one as they say, scientific discussions about vaccines, and vaccine treatment, versus being still a lot on the platform. and testimonies. and that is something where they are really going to have a difficult time determining where that line is. >> mark part of the reason i wanted to ask you back tonight is because the last time you were here we talked about this confrontation between google, which owns youtube and apple. in russia, around the russian

election, the government pressure and those two big american tech companies that they should take down content from the russian opposition around the election. i'm both google and apple exceeded to those demands. now we've got a weird next be in, that where the russian government is saying they are very angry with youtube, and they are going to block access to youtube in russia, if because of this vaccine disinformation policy. youtube is going to take down russian government sponsored propaganda that has been spreading vaccine information, that they see the heart of enough violation in terms of youtube's ability to russian in office, they may be able to take them off the internet. their how do you think that youtube will deal with the sort of one to punch from the russian government bullying them like this? >> this is us far as i can understand, based in germany historically has strict laws. so i think the context here too is that youtube and google are very conscience of the

regulation with even more aggressive than the u.s.. i think that they have clearly shown that, on covid, and now on vaccines, that they are leaning on health authorities and they are saying they are consulting with f experts, and we are going to the cdc, and we are going to take a pretty hard stance to what they have historically. with that being said, you too has been able to have these loopholes, earlier i watched a clip of joe biden talking about the cast a vote about their experience to put a vaccine, on the side effects. the issue you youtube is that their videos are. long and it's much more difficult to moderate and for not, just people of the company but certainly people of regulators to actually watch and see how they are enforcing these policies. >> mark bergen, reporter for bloomberg news. thank you for being here, it's a fascinating story. and obviously still developing,

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we go tonight. the congressional baseball game has been underway at national stadium tonight. in washington d.c..

at that game, there has been a few banner drops, encouraging the democrats to hold the line. do we have those footage? . yes. reconciliation first. hold the line. that was held up tonight in the crowd today at the congressional baseball game. there were a couple of other signs. one of them which sent a swear word on, we do have that blocked out? yes. the bottom sign says our lives are not a game, past the 3.5 trillion dollar bill. the other sign near that one which we had to block something out on said, dems don't f this up. we'll see if that lights inappropriate fire under democratic baseball players, at the congressional baseball game tonight. that will do it for us tonight. see you again tomorrow. now it's time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrence. >> i don't think will be seeing those signs of any other baseball games. >> exactly. dems don't. yeah that doesn't work at any other baseball game. that was interesting to see, it does feel like it is a hard-core progressive right now. they're not getting