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a huge day in our nation's capitol. one that could make or break the president's $4 trillion agenda. that said, job number one is to keep the government up and running. with funding set to run out tonight, the senate will start voting about 90 minutes from now on a bill to keep the lights on for another two months. the house has to pass it and the president has to sign it before midnight tonight to avoid a shutdown. meanwhile, nancy pelosi was working the phones all night long, even in the middle of that annual congressional baseball game trying to come up with a deal to save the $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package. that vote is set for today. but the looming question is whether pelosi will delay it if she says progressives are serious about voting it down. we should get a sense of where that stands at her weekly briefing scheduled to start in a little under two hours. all of this got a lot more
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complicated for the democrats overnight when senator joe manchin issued a harsh statement slamming progressives for trying to, quote, reengineer the economic and social fabric of our country. while progressives slammed him for failing to negotiate in good faith. so this morning, intense negotiations continue on the hill. they will continue meetings with key members of congress. but if manchin won't deal on that big human infrastructure bill and progressives vote for the smaller, hard infrastructure bill, joe biden's agenda could fall victim. i want to go to the white house. great to have you. on a wild and incredibly important day, let's start with the pressing issue. are we going to avoid a government shutdown at least for now? >> reporter: every indication is
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we will avoid a shutdown. both chambers teed up votes on a continuing resolution able to fund the government into december. but just like doing your homework late, when you wait this long, any little thing could trip up the process. if a copy machine breaks down, we could stumble into a shutdown, but every indication is we will avoid a shutdown, at least for now. >> that brings us to the complicated issue of the two infrastructure bills. >> i completely agree. it was one step forward, two steps back for democrats with a solution on a government shutdown. and really more problems on infrastructure. in this case, in the form of that scathing statement from joe manchin that you mentioned. i don't read anything in this statement that suggests thises a person interested in doing a deal. he 25us about the definition of fiscal insanity and changing the social and economic fabric of
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our country or vengfully taxing. this statement does not indicate someone negotiating on this bill in the near term desire for its success. that was the read of progressives too. progressive caucus chairwoman was very quick to fire back on that statement. here's what she told reporters last night. >> he needs to either give us an offer or this whole thing is not going to happen. >> his statement has probably created a bunch more votes on the house floor against the bipartisan bill. >> reporter: so that's the challenge for speaker pelosi now. she's made a lot of promises to different groups about whether or not a vote will be held, when the conditions would be right to move forward on other pieces of legislation. she also does not like to put something on the floor knowing it's going to fail, as appears likely this it infrastructure bill would if they voted today. so all eyes will be on her all morning to see what her decision is on whether or not to hold
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that vote today. >> she's got her weekly press conference coming up in a couple hours. so we may get an indication there. eugene, let me play what dick durbin said when he basically challenged senator manchin and kerstin cinema. >> i would say for both senators to make your mark and close the deal. what is it that you want? what is your final goal? we can't delay these things. simply delaying them is inviting a bad result. we are one heartbeat away from losing the majority in the united states senate. >> he's not alone. basically, the democratic party, certainly the president wants these two senators just to please make a deal. why have they been so hard to pin down? why won't they say what it is that will make them move? >> that's the million-dollar, trillion-dollar question. what do you want in this bill? that's something that progressives have been very frustrated with. some other moderates have been frustrated with and the white
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house has been frustrated with what is it you want in this bill. talking about that scathing letter, these are things he could have said months ago. this reconciliation bill is not new. the build back better actis not something new. this is a conversation that has been happening for months and months and months and months. that's the frustration with progressives. because right now what joe manchin has done is not put the final nail in the coffin. he put a nail in the coffin for both bills. and moderates have been kind of forcing progressives into a position for weeks and weeks where they just have to trust that the moderates are going to come back and get this done. now you have joe manchin making very clear that he's not as interested as people thought he was in doing that. that's where a lot of the frustration lies.
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sinema, they are loved together. even though manchin has been more public about his issues with it, but she's the same thing. more that people are getting annoyed that she's playing coy and not really answering questions about what it is publicly. we all know that these things happen behind closed doors, but there's been no reporting to suggest she's been clear about what she wants. . >> which brings us to you, mike. i suppose it's possible there could have been some movement that we haven't heard about. we certainly didn't get any suggestion when both of the democratic leaders talked to biden yesterday and left without saying anything publicly. they avoided the press. there was an optimism from the president and the white house. is that still there at all? >> well, the stock answer you get from white house official when is you raise with them, all the warning signs, all the bad
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omens is to simply point back at a recent experience to say you counted out the president before and he was able to get his relief law passed. so don't count him out. i have to tell you, in my conversations with white house officials, the urgency and frankly the nervousness you heard there from senator durbin in that clip, it's very much shared with those in the white house when i was on capitol hill yesterday i spoke with one of the chief white house negotiators here as he came out of the senator's office. he simply said we're going to keep negotiating. there's hopeful that they are going to get a breakthrough, but it's worth considering. it was important for the president to go to nationals park last night to spend some time in the dugout with democratic members because there are a lot of these democrats we are talking about who are so critical to a deal here. but a lot of the rank and file democrats have felt like theren hasn't been enough outreach. it was an important moment to see the president spending some time.
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white house officials say he's been doing a lot of that behind the scenes as well talking with a wide range of members. those conversations will continue today. but they know the fate of his presidency and his domestic agenda is wrapped up here. that's what he ran on. now it's the time to deliver. but clearly, some nervousness here at the white house. >> senator durbin made what i think is a very quotable and accurate statement when he said that democrats are just a heartbeat away from losing the senate majority. he's not kidding. if democrats, who now control the house, the senate, the white house can't get this signature legislation through, what they ran on, what the president ran, what happens then? is there any sense of urgency about 2022, 2024's impact in finally coming together and doing something? >> the things that dick durbin and everyone else knows is history is not on the side of democrats here. we know that at least one of the
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chambers, possibly the senate, probably the house are going to flip. and that's something especially with their very, very slim majority that they already have been playing with, which is why we have all these issues. i think something that's been said to me by progressive activists out on the ground is that they need something to be done. if you want them to say get the vote out, get people to go back and vote in record numbers in the midterm and prove history cannot is the only guiding light here, you have to give them something to take to those folks. you can't just expect people to just go vote just because you want to stay in office. so what can they point to? covid, sure. that's something you can do. but then you have all these other promises that were made. it's not just these two, but it's also voting rights and police reform. all of these things that could have happened in the first year,
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which is usually the easiest year or the only year we can get really anything done with the new president. and that's not what has happened. so there is a concern that all of these things are going to make it even harder for democrats to hold on to this power and so the urgency is we have to get these things done now. you have to get these things done. by the time we get to january, all eyes are going to start moving over to 2022 in a really serious way. >> i know all of you will give the control room a call if anything changes in the next 50 minutes or so. thank you for being with us. it's going to be a long day for all of you. icht to bring in democratic congressman, deputy whip for the progress i have caucus. it's good to see you. i want to start by playing that word yesterday about the idea that these two infrastructure bills have to move together. >> there was a deal made.
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>> i never heard about that. >> you were never part of a deal? >> he said he never heard of that and he said over and over yesterday he's been negotiating in good faith. do you believe that? >> the president was very clear when the bipartisan deal happened that it had to be together with the entirety of his agenda. i do believe senator manchin is negotiating in good faith. one of the things he suggested is let's repeal a lot of the trump tax cuts. that is at least a start. we could also have a front loading of one of the benefits of the bill and reduce it. i think senator manchin will get on board. >> but do you agree with your colleague who said she thinks his harshly-worded statement probably brought more votes over to the progressive side? >> i think more votes were coming to the progressive side
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in any way. there's a harsh statement and a few weeks later came out with a voting rights agenda. so i am confident he will come on board. i think right now you're going to have far more than progressives voting against an infrastructure bill. there are moderates because there's no clarity on the president's agenda. the bigger challenge i think is senator sinema when there's no sense. he repeated it last night. if she were to come on board, tell us what she wants. and the president is trying. the one thing i will say is the president's outreach has been extraordinary. this idea they are not responding or reaching out to the house is just factually wrong. >> if you vote against this infrastructure bill or it doesn't come to a vote, you're essentially telling the american people to trust you. that you can give this up because you can figure out a way
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to get something bigger and better down the road. after watching all this drama, why should the american people believe that? >> it's a fair question. but what the american people should know is you have a unified democratic agenda around what the president wanted. >> but not a unified democratic caucus, which is what it comes down to. >> we have a unified democratic caucus and then we have one senator who is standing in the way of 99%. and senator manchin wants a deal. the house is unified. the 48 senators are unified. you have one senator that is standing in the way of people getting child care, community college for free, environmental provisions of investing in renewable energy, seniors getting dental care. and i believe one senator is not going to stop the president of the united states and the entire
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democratic party. >> if the house is unified, why is there a chance that fp np will not bring this bill to a vote today because she would be afraid she wouldn't have the votes. how can you call that unified caucus? >> because she doesn't want to bring something for a vote that's not going to pass the senate. we have to be unified not just in the house, we have to have unanimity in the senate. it's clear we don't have that in the senate because of senator sinema. cincinnati ma. if she were to say here's the number i'm for, what the house has said is we're willing to negotiate. we have tried in every way. the president has tried. he's implored senator sinema to give us a number. we keep coming on television, my hope is she could just answer
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what is it she's opposed to. opposed to all tax increases? opposed to child care? opposed to medicare? then we could have an honest conversation. senator manchin, i know where he stands. >> congressman, good of you to take the time out today. thank you so much. we appreciate it. there's also developing news this morning on the investigation into january 6th. overnight the house committee overseeing it issued 11 more subpoenas for those who helped plan or organize the rally that was just before that attack on the capitol. national political reporter joins me now. this raises to a total number of 15. first four were big names. these are not as big. but what are investigators hoping to learn from them? tell us about this. >> absolutely. these subpoenas go out to a collection of loyalists and former staff to donald trump had a hand in organizing a series of rallies that led up to that january 6th insurrection. there was a rally in november. there was a rally in december.
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there were bus tours. and there was that so-called stop the steal rally that led to that attack on the capitol. what these vjs have in common is their names were on permits of those rallies. the committee wants to know who organized them, who planned them, who funded them. was there contact and communication between these individuals and former president trump. was there contact between them and the white house? maybe potentially lawmakers. this is all about fact gathering and stitching together the version of events that happened that day. they want the minute to minute, but the source described this as a fire that had been kindling for a long time. weeks and weeks, if it not months and months. they want to know who is responsible not only for lighting that match, but who is responsible for kindling that fire that led to this attack on the capitol. >> always good to see you. thank you. coming up, a dire warning from the cdc. pregnant women are at a much higher risk of dying from covid.
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this morning about the coronavirus. the cdc says pregnant women need the vaccine. there's alarming new data that shows they have a significantly higher risk of death. gabe gutierrez is live outside mount sinai in new york city. thank you. gabe, what exactly is the cdc saying about these risks for pregnant women? >> reporter: good morning. a as you mentioned, the cdc says it's critical for pregnant women to get this vaccine. it's their strongest warning to date on the subject. the agency says that new data shows that symptomatic pregnant women are more than twice as likely to be admitted to the icu
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and have a 70% higher risk of death than sick covid patients who aren't pregnant. now according to the cdc, 161 pregnant women have died so far of covid. but the alarming thing is just 22 have tied just last month. now the agency is warning that covid can increase the risk of issues surrounding berth including preterm birth, stillbirth, admission of infants to the icu. and right now only about 31% of pregnant women in this country are vaccinated. the cdc is also noticing a racial disparity saying that only about 50% of pregnant black women are vaccinated. so certainly, many alarming stats leading to this urgent health warning that the cdc put out yesterday. >> let me start overall with the decision by the cdc to put out this warning. it's pretty rare. what's your take on it and what should be the level of concern?
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>> well, we have had 125,000 pregnant women get covid and 22,000 admitted to the hospital. that's a 20% hospitalization rate. i think that's the kind of urgency and the very, very low numbers of vaccinated, even among the highest group, the asians, you're less than 50% of the women vaccinated. i think that's a big concern. we also need to get rid of a lot of myths around it. that vaccination causes sterility or miscarriage. we know that the vaccine also if a woman get it is before 20 weeks doesn't cause miscarriage and that some of those antibodies are seen in the umbilical cord protecting the fetus when the fetus is being delivered. all of those are actually benefits to the vaccine. i think they want to get those numbers up closer to the general population and god willing, 80% of pregnant women getting
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vaccinated because that's what we really need. >> the key question becomes how. i want to reiterate those numbers. just 31% of pregnant women have gotten a covid vccine. among black women, that drops below 16%. is this a case with all the misinformation that's out there and, obviously, the fear that it's almost like trying to put a genie back in the bottle. how do we do this? >> well, you can provide positive information like you're doing now. you can go out and talk to the women. the most important thing probably is to have their ob/gyn talk to them who are going to deliver them and urging them to get vaccinated. getting them the vaccine so when the woman gets convinced right then and there she can start the vaccination process so there's no gap. these are all important measures, but a as you say, they
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are retail. they are not wholesale. they are not getting to all the millions of women who get pregnant every year in the united states. >> the other big conversation around coronavirus this morning is about boosters. for people who are lining up to get them in the numbers over the weekend and into this week, the appointments that have been made are impressive. here in new york city, the broadway show at kw la din" closed down because they had several breakthrough cases within the company despite rigorous protocols in place. it's those breakthrough cases that have people nervous wanting to get their booster shot even if they are not technically eligible. can you help folks understand about these breakthrough cases? is there a way to really protect yourself short of doing what a lot of people did at the beginning of the pandemic, which was lock themselves if their houses. >> i think the most important
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thing you can do are when you go out and go into other facilities to wear a very high-quality mask. it's probably your best bet. even if you're vaccinated. and wear it indires, going to the grocery store, going into other places. avoid going inside when you have discretion. i want restaurants to survive, but indoors, taking your mask off, eating is a problem. you can also i would say these booster shots are important. for those at higher risk, they should get the shots. the 55% of americans that have gotten vaccinated, they are eager to get the boosters. that's why we're seeing the rise in vaccination among that group. buzz they were the first.
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they wanted to get it right away. so those are probably the most important things you can do. you don't have to be holed up in your house. you can go outside where there aren't a lot of people around. but we have to remember that this delta variant is very, very contagious. and transmission is easy. that's what we're seeing with these breakthrough infections. we should remember no vaccine prevents all cases. we don't get what's called sterilizing immunity. we shouldn't expect that. and we need to take some reasonable precautions until we get the frequency of cases down low and declining, not increasing. >> doctor it, dpaib, thank you both. nbc's exclusive sit-down with three lawmakers set to testify this morning about their own experience with abortions. their deeply personal stories and what pushed them to speak out.
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in just minutes, four democratic congresswomen will testify at a house hearing on
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reproductive rights. and a late add will offer a sharp contrast. with the congresswoman of florida set to share why she's against abortion rights. we are live on capitol hill and spoke exclusively to three of those democratic lawmakers ahead of their emotional testimony today. what did they tell you and what are they hoping to accomplish by sharing these very personal stories? >> reporter: these are not stories easily shared for these congresswomen. they are also stories you don't often hear in the halls of capitol hill. that's why these lawmakers wanted to testify, to put it in the congressional record and use their experiences as a sign of their expertise and what they bring to this policy debate. their hope is that other women can see themselves reflected in their stories, but also that it can shake loose a partisan debate on abortion access at a time when we're seeing states restrict the right to abortion across the country.
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i want to play for you some of their emotional stories. these are the things they are going to say in front of the house oversight committee when they testify. but they trusted us to tell their stories yesterday in an exclusive interview. let's listen. >> when i found out i was pregnant, it was very difficult because i still didn't understand what was happening. i didn't even realize what to do. i knew i wasn't ready for a child. >> i just realized that there was no way i could have another baby at that time. and that i could not go through what i had gone through. i had gone through postpartum depression. i even contemplated suicide at one time. i knew i was thot ready to go through that again. >> my mother's friend said, look, i know a very good doctor, but he's in a back alley clinic in mexico. i was terrified. i didn't know what was taking place. and in fact, i survived.
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why it's so important now for me to tell the story is i don't want any woman to ever have to go through that. i know what that back alley looked like. i know ha ha that dark light looked like. i see it right now. i was one of the fortunate ones. >> reporter: these stories didn't just span experiences that led these congresswomen to make these decision, but these span geerations. one of the things you hear from democrats who say now is a very important moment to act on federal laws, one of the reasons that they say that is because they are concerned that a conservative-leaning supreme court could roll back the protections offered by roe v. wade decision. for one congresswoman, she chose to have her abortion before that law and before that case even happened in the supreme court. so she's not talking theoretically about a time before roe. for her, you heard her say it there. she knows what that back alley
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looks like and she's telling her story now despite how hard it was for her to do so so that other women can see that's a reality that she feels could come again. i also think it's important in the larger context of this debate with these congresswomen hope to do is destigmatize these stories. the number of women who access abortion is probably higher than some people might think. 1 in 4 women by the time they are 45 will choose to have an abortion, according to one study that we looked at. that's the goal for these democratic women as they testify here today on capitol hill. >> what can you tell us about the late addition of the list of speakers? >> reporter: that's going to provide a stark contrast against the three democratic lawmakers that we spoke to. they are going to share their stories of why they chose to access abortion. the congresswoman is going to speak in the opposite direction talking about herself as someone who has survived abortion because her own mother decided
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not to have an abortion despite the fact that her mother's pregnancy carried health risks. he's going to talk about her mother's choice to continue having that pregnancy. but that's really the contrast that we're going to see on this testimony. you and i both know we have covered this issue for a listening time. deeply, deeply entrenched on both sides. that's what these lawmakers hope to do is shake the policy debate loose a little bit. >> thank you so much for that. we'll be watching closely. coming up, the new warning from one of the nation's top military officials about how soon we could see a resurgence of isis or al qaeda in afghanistan. congressman jack will be here on what we can do about it. jack win what we can do about it. we w? we can make emergency medicine possible at 40,000 feet. instead of burning our past for power, we can harness the energy of the tiny electron. we can create new ways to connect. rethinking how we communicate to be more inclusive than ever. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions,
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or isis. it's a real possibility in a not too distant future. >> that warning came after the generals contradicted president biden saying they supported leaving a small troop presence in afghanistan. joining me now is a veteran who served in afghanistan congressman auchincloss, good to see you, congressman. i want to start with that warning from general milley. i know you think ending the war was rooigt, but how worried are you about that and what can be done about that? >> it's good to be on. the united states maintains robust counterterrorism capabilities that intertwine human intelligence, unmanned aerial systems and special operations. those capabiliies are active in dozens of countries around the world than. they must reremain active. 24 administration has committed
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to funding them to the support necessary to prevent attacks on the homeland. >> what do you make of the revelation that the generals did advise the president to keep a troop presence despite the president saying otherwise? >> the nation's top generals offered their expert advice on what was optimal for the military situation in afghanistan. but the commander-in-chief had to answer a bigger question. he had to answer the question what was optimal for international relations. he knew that another decade of a failed forever war was going to distract resources and attention from the true international threats we face. climate change, counterterrorism. he's committed on these fronts and knew we had to retrograde from afghanistan to focus on those issues. >> let me ask you about where we are right now in afghanistan and play it for you what another congressman said about our allies in the region yesterday. watch this. >> they are being slaughtered
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right now as we speak with our weapons. with our equipment. our allies are being slaughtered. every morning we wake up to beheading videos, to executions, to people being hunted down with our own database. >> congressman waltz is a republican, but is also a veteran. what do you make of the situation on the ground right now and what's your wre action to what he had to say? >> i would remind my republican colleague that it was president trump who unlaterally committed to a withdrawal from afghanistan that was not conditions based and accelerated that withdrawal despite stalled negotiations. this president executed the most successful air lift in history getting 120,000 afghan allies and refugees out of that country, who we are now resettling in the united states and going to have opportunities and a standard of living never
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imaginable. >> but to his specific comment that these atrocities are being committed with our damn equipment, our weapons, what do you say? >> the united states either demobilized or retrograded the vast majority of our equipment. i think our nation's top generals aseeded to that during their testimony yesterday. the atrocities committed by the taliban are being committed with the equipment that they had available to them in the 1990s. this is a question of a regime and their approach to governance. not a question of american military equipment. >> there are also some high stakes dpoerkss going on right now on the hill. you're a former republican who became a democrat. how do you plan to vote on the infrastructure and social safety net bills and do you think speaker pelosi will have a vote today? >> we need to pass both of these bills. these bills are 21st century investments in health care, early education and our physical
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infrastructure. we've got a tough six days, six weeks ahead of us of negotiations. but the result we're going to deliver are going to be with us for years to come. >> you think it could be six weeks? >> i think it's going to take as long as it needs take. this speaker does not bring bills to the familiar that can't pass. it would be helpful if senators who are holding out would give top line timeline and topics that they would consent to. that could move the ball forward and create the trust necessary for us to pass both bills in sequence. >> congressman aauchincloss, thank you for being with us. facebook in the hot seat at a hearing on capitol hill. we're expecting tough questions after that bomb shell report revealing the company knows how toxic its platforms can be for teens. the journalist who broke the facebook files will be here next. plus for the first time in more than 13 years, britney
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back now to capitol hill where in less than an hour facebook will be on the hot seat and playing defense after a series of revealing reports about the company including how they knew just how toxic instagram is for teenage girls but down played it any way. they reviewed internal documents showing the plan to target
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pre-teens far beyond what was publicly known. joining me is one of the reporters behind the story. congratulations on this amazing reporting, which got the ball rolling on today's hearing. what are you going to be watching for? >> i watching for? >> i'll be watching for -- lawmakers have told us they want to know when facebook executives were aware of this research and how long they were aware of it, and they'd like to know which executives and why they didn't turn it over when lawmakers asked for it. so i'll be looking for how lawmakers will be asking for this research. >> you report facebook has been looking for play dates to get more kids on their platforms. i read that. paint a picture for us. what does that even look like. >> facebook researchers looked at play dates as a ritual in what children go through, when they plan play dates and how they get together.
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this is evidence of how badly facebook wants to get the young kids on as users. >> what's the average age of somebody on facebook now? essentially are they worried about the platform aging out? >> facebook is concerned that as the next generation of young people get their first smartphones, they may download tiktok or an app that's not owned by facebook. >> one in five teens say instagram makes them feel worse about themselvesing and here's what the company is saying about that. >> if any leaves using instagram feeling worse about themselves, that's something we need to take seriously. last week we focused on nudges. another topic is called take a break. you can put your instagram on
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pause if you're in a moment of vulnerability. >> yeah. whether that's going to happen, i don't know. but from a purely business standpoint, georgia, if people feel worse using their app, they might not use it as much. what do you make of them saying they're going to fix this issue? >> instagram is built with very addictive mechanics, and many users describe an experience of realizing that the app at times made them feel worse about themselves but lacking the control to put it down after they realized this. as facebook has developed these products, the question is whether the teens and those most vulnerable will be able to listen to these nudges. facebook has said the research is not clear yet. it's too early to know how effective these nudges will be, and i think it will be important to see how effective it will be. >> georgia wells, important stuff.
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i know you'll be watching along with us. also this morning britney spears is waking up for the first time in more than 15 years without her father in control of her life or for her money for that matter following that pivotal court hearing. erin mclaughlin is live in los angeles. good morning to both of you. tell us about the hearing and the judge's ruling. >> it was a big day for britney spears, the ruling over an hour-long exchange. in terms of what this all means, it's essentially means there are two things that this accomplishes. jamie is no longer in charge of britney's finances, but he also has to hand over documents relating to the conservative shichlt experts say this could amount to a legal nightmare for him.
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britney's lawyer is vowing to investigate jamie's handling of the conservatorship, not only her finances, but a report that she was under surveillance. this morning jamie spears released a statement saying in the last 13 years he's been acting in her best interest. meanwhile britney posted a picture of herself flying a plane saying she's on cloud nine. >> what does it mean for britney? what does this ruling actually accomplish? >> this is an intermediate step, chris. there will be a hearing later this fall that will get her closer to terminating her stripship. so right now we're at a period of time where she has a new conservator, someone experienced who can look at the documents involved the conservatorship and begin making decisions about what happens next. >> to the point of looking into
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how the conservatorship was handled, what kinds of things do you expect will be looked at and what can be done if there were any irregularities? >> there'll be a look at how jamie managed his daughter's affairs. we've seen reports in the last week there were perhaps listening devices placed in her home. so spears is now represented by a former federal prosecutor. he'll be able to look at this evidence as they develop it and determine whether she has civil claims she can assert trying to recover money or finances that were mismanaged during her father's tenure and ultimately whether are allegations that can be passed on to see whether investigations might be appropriate. >> thanks to both of you. that's going to wrap up this hour. i'm chris jansing. jose diaz-balart is up next
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about abortion laws on the hill, and everything that's going on with the budget, infrastructure. don't go anywhere. t, infrastruc. don't go anywhere.
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good morning. it's 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart, and we begin with a pivotal day on capitol hill where the future of democrats' economic policy literally hangs in the balance, and lawmakers now have just 14 hours left to pass a bill to
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keep the u.s. government ope. in the next 30 minutes the senate is set to vote on a resolution to avoid a government shutdown. also on capitol hill, finally, infrastructure day, but progressive and moderate democrats are no closer to an agreement on how to move president biden's agenda forward. we'll be hearing from speaker nancy pelosi later this hour. and let's get right to our reporters on the ground to give us the very latest. joining me now msnbc news correspondent on capitol hill garrett haake. with 14 hours to go, the senate has to pass this continuing resolution bill, then the house has go pass it and the president has to sign it all before midnight. keeping the government open is

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