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vote on a short term funding bill that will keep the lights on through early december. they have to sign off on the bill before sending it to president biden for signature. that vote expected in about 30 minutes. a house vote on the trillion dollar infrastructure roads and bridges bill. it depends on the intense negotiations. the bill could have been $3.5 trillion will almost certainly not be that high. in the past hours, speaker pelosi met with moderates and progressives. and senator joe manchin, one of two key moderates at the center of the fire storm confirmed what he wants the bigger bill to look like. nbc news capitol hill team is talking with all of them, going to bring you that. bundle up. it will be busy the next 59
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minutes. i want to bring in ligh ann caldwell. shannon pettypiece, and tony ropp, and john bresnahan. let me give a caveat to viewers before we start. we're not sure what the next 60 minutes may entail. members of congress are supposed to come to the set, supposed to go to the house floor for a vote. we're just along for the ride. bring us up to speed. the vote to fund the government, looks like we're on track to avoid government shutdown, fair? >> reporter: that's fair. we're all along for the ride. none of us know what's going to happen ted, welcome to capitol hill, that's often how things go around here. the easy part which you wouldn't think that would be the easy part given the partisanship of capitol hill and dynamics of the democratic party, but funding the government, they left it to the last minute.
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the senate voted on a bipartisan basis to keep the lights on as you said through december 3rd. that includes disaster aid for the latest disaster hurricanes and wildfires, also includes money for afghan resettlement. now that's going to the house of representatives where they will have to vote on it before midnight tonight, send it to the president before midnight for him to sign for the government to stay open. now that that's out of the way, they are mostly out of the way now. now the house democratic leadership is extremely focused on saving prescribe's agenda, they were trying to save the government, keeping it own, now trying to save the president's agenda and it is looking perilous. vice president harris walked into the capitol, i asked her what will happen to the president's agenda if the vote on the bipartisan bill doesn't
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pass today. she says she is optimistic that it will. i asked today though, and she didn't answer. there's still a lot of questions if they can get this done, holly. >> question on timing. lee ann, you and members of the capitol hill coverage team have been running around the last couple hours getting new reaction and new predictions from key players. i want to play that for folks. >> i'm willing to come from zero to 1.5. >> senator manchin said 1.5 trillion is the top line number. could you see yourself coming down? >> look, we are in the same place we've always been. >> inches. >> inches, shannon, inches. you have to think that's what president biden is looking for. i think we missed the vice president's arrival by a matter of minutes coming on air at 3:00. she's in the building behind us now. she's projecting optimism. that's what we heard from the white house press secretary as we were coming on the air, she
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was doing a briefing where you are. >> and the white house sounds like they're hanging on and along for the ride as much as you and lee ann, hanging on for the ride. press secretary jen psaki said we're taking it hour by hour when asked what the president will do this weekend. she said it is still up in the air, what's going to happen this afternoon with the president. there's been a lot of speculation internally about whether or not the president could go up to the hill today. right now they are saying everything is on the table. psaki said they're looking for a win on the vote tonight. she says it is 2:30, we have seven hours in the day, they're focused trying to get a win in the house tonight. here's more of what she had to say. >> we're open. he's available. he's been making calls this morning. he's open to having visitors, he's open to going places, but we're going to make those decisions hour by hour. the weekend is a little bit away. i will tell you this is the president's top priority right
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now, getting relief to the american people, making sure we lower costs for the american people, addressing the climate crisis, rebuilding roads, buildings, bridges. we are making progress. >> reporter: the president has been out of public view a few days, not on the road making a big sales pitch or heading to the hill like i speculate about in my mind is going to happen. the white house has said he is making phone calls. he is talking to staff who is also making phone calls, people coming in and out of the oval office. and like psaki said, he is willing to do what it takes to get it over the finish line. >> i want you to stand by. want to bring in tony and brez. you were rolling your eyes. why, what's the deal? how do you think it will go down? >> they're not there yet. >> not just pelosi, the speaker and white house say there are
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seven hours left. you think it is not realistic? >> it is seven hours. what made me wonder, the whole time this weekend tony will probably have the same feelings, nobody is really in charge it doesn't feel like. pelosi will do what pelosi does, she's in charge of the house. they needed a deal with sinema and manchin. that was the president's responsibility to get. schumer was not going to be able to get that deal. that's something joe biden would have to deliver, senator manchin, so you have a top line number, you get moving on a reconciliation bill, and make sure that progressives are on line for the infrastructure bill. it is a whole two track process. biden hasn't been able to do that so far. they haven't done that. now they're hours from a vote. now the white house is going. we have been waiting all week for a real whipping operation and just seeing it today. >> what are you hearing from your resources, tony? >> the crazy thing is we knew we
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would be in a version of this moment back in the spring. we knew senator manchin and sinema didn't support 3.5 trillion in spending. the loudest to talk about very many democratic priorities, we knew they didn't support spending that level. and progressives were going to say we're not passing an infrastructure plan until you address the rest of our spending priorities. it has been months of back and forth. it finally come to a head, and don't get the impression anything changed. we talked to congressman jay a pal, they're still not supplying the votes. talking about drinking champagne as gottheimer said yesterday. we are barreling toward the unknown at this point. >> bernie sanders talks a little about this today. says hold up, paraphrasing him, he didn't say the words hold up. he did say this is not really he says a make or break moment for the biden agenda because they think the vote will happen.
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this will get done, it is a function of when. does it happen thursday, the self imposed deadline the democrats wanted, next week? so context check, is it a make or break moment for the agenda or not? >> there's a window. it is not going to last forever. there's a window. you're right, it doesn't have to happen today. sanders said this is an artificial deadline, there's nothing special about september 30, was supposed to be september 27, now rolled to september 30. government funding had to be done today. >> looks like that will get done. >> that crisis is averted. this is internal democratic drama. you have to hold onto sinema and manchin, get them to the table. joe manchin is not negotiating. he is at 1.5. progressives are at 3.5. if you're getting this done, there's a window to get it done, doesn't seem like that window is going to last that long.
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if you try to push too hard on manchin and sinema, you'll lose them, push too hard on progressives, you'll lose them. doesn't seem like as tony said this has been happening awhile, doesn't seem like a lot of progress to be honest. >> we have been trying to be clear on the show about what's facing members of congress. government shutdown deadline. that's real, tonight. looks as though at 3:30, they'll have a vote and avoid shutdown. fine. second are buckets with two track series of bills, smaller roads and bridges infrastructure bill, bigger social spending bill. that's what's in flux. then there's the next thing, the debt ceiling. the potential crisis there that i know reporters like you that cover capitol hill are sounding the alarm bell, don't ignore this. >> this is the thing to worry about. remember what the debt ceiling is, the ability of the government to borrow to pay bills. you get to october 18th, that's
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the point the u.s. government can't borrow money to pay bills. >> it is past spending. >> money the government already spent. huge flashpoint in washington. democrats say we passed a coronavirus relief package, did it bipartisan, this is bipartisan debt. come october 18th, if we don't raise or suspend that debt limit. >> catastrophe. it could rattle the markets, plunge the u.s. into recession. even the thought of it happening ten years ago rattled global markets. >> thank you all so much. i know you're staying close to cameras. again, here's what we're watching for this hour. see if we hear anything new from vice president kamala harris who is in the building behind me as we speak. we'll see a vote on the house floor to avert government shutdown. we're going to see if there are breakthroughs or news on a vote of the other thing, the
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bipartisan infrastructure bill that house speaker nancy pelosi would like to put forward. tbd on that. if that's not enough for you, more breaking news coming from the supreme court, involving a vaccine mandate by new york city public schools. pete williams is here. what's going on? >> public school teachers say to the supreme court put a hold on this, it is going to effect us unfairly. this would apply to basically about 148,000 employees of the state department of education, teachers, school staff. under the rules new york imposed here, they all have to show they've gotten at least one vaccination against covid. they say it is unfair for a couple reasons, it would deprive people of the ability to seek their profession, they could never work without getting the vaccination, they say it is unfair it applies to teachers but doesn't apply to policemen, firefighters, others that come in contact with the public, and
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say teachers are exposed to children but children have less susceptibility to covid and less ability to spread it, so they're not a risky population to be around. they're asking the supreme court to block this. in the past, the supreme court has dealt with emergency applications involving covid but tended to be from religious organizations who say they've been singled out, there's no limit how many people can go into the best buy but limit how many can go into the methodist church and on that basis the supreme court has been pretty reluctant to uphold lower court rulings that allowed restrictions to take place. they've been very suspicious about them involving religious institutions. this one is different. it is hard to predict what the court will do today or the next few days. undoubtedly will seek reply from new york before they act. >> and do we have a sense of timing when we might hear? >> there's never a deadline on
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these. obviously the teachers want the court to act immediately because this takes effect in the next day or so. but they don't have shots, they're not allowed to show up. the court will undoubtedly seek reply from new york an act within the next week or so. >> pete williams, live for us in washington newsroom with that breaking news. thank you very much. we'll come back if there are updates this afternoon. appreciate it. after the break, going deeper inside the action with a how the democrat directly involved in what's happening. henry cuellar. and the view from the other side of the aisle with a house republican. the justice department announcing a crackdown on rise of fake and potentially deadly prescription pills popping up across the country. we are in it, we'll be in it the next hour. stay with us. in it the next hour. stay with us ♪♪ things you start when you're 45. coaching. new workouts. and screening for colon cancer. yep. the american cancer society recommends screening starting at age 45, instead of 50,
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to the house floor. you can see this is the vote that would keep the government open effectively. the senate passed that earlier today. now it is the house's turn. if it gets through, the government keeps lights on until early december. the vote just opened. it will be open a couple of minutes. the person joining me onset has to sprint to the house floor. thank you so much for being with us. especially as i know you are juggling a couple things. didn't know the timing of the vote. appreciate you holding to the agreement to talk to us. let me start with the vote. any expectation it will do anything but pass? >> it will pass. i am a member of the appropriations, this is something that we have to do. it will pass, we'll keep the government open until december and come back and finish the work in december. >> you think it will be another kick the can situation in december? >> no. we'll get the job done. house appropriations, we've done our work. we're waiting for the senate.
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there's already preliminary conversations. we are doing the work with the senate finance. >> talk about other bills, specifically the question mark for a potential house vote maybe tonight. have you heard anything, will there be a vote that comes to the floor on the infrastructure bill? >> it will be done today. we're looking at -- >> wait a second. that's news. >> it should be news, it will be done. look, tomorrow there's highway provisions that will terminate, and we have to get the work done. don't we want to see $1.2 trillion of money going to roads, highways, broadband, common change provisions. my state of texas is an example. everybody can get this information. gets about $30 billion from the bill, so every state is going to get a good chunk of money for roads and bridges. >> there's a reason there's urgency behind this.
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you say you think this vote happens today. do you have the votes. right now, it appears that progressives haven't seen the legislative language they want to see to commit to backing this. >> look, one thing i learned, we're in the legislative arena, you never say never. >> you didn't say never, you said today. >> i am talking about people that say they may have a problem with the bill. i am saying to the progressives, look, i know what they want but i was not in the room when somebody came up with $3.5 trillion. none who came up with that. i was not in the room when they said we have to vote the infrastructure bill and reconciliation. i was not in the room. i want to pass the infrastructure bill because it is good for america, number one. number two, we can work on reconciliation. some have a problem with a high number. of course we do. do we have a problem with some provisions, pay for, some taxes, of course we have problems. that's the legislative process
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and we'll get to that at the proper time. >> i have another question. do you have guidance from leadership from house speaker pelosi? >> she's meeting with a different group. she's meeting with new democrats and other folks to get the job done. i think we will. >> she committed you would have the vote? >> my understanding is we are going to move forward with this today. >> let me ask you this. if things change and the progressives have numbers to tank the vote, house speaker pelosi is not inclined to bring bills to the floor, would you be okay, support this down the road if it comes up next week, et cetera, because it is tied to reconciliation bill or would you withhold your vote then, given
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how important you said it is. >> i will just say this. i feel very confident the vote will be done later today, no later than tomorrow. >> i have to respectfully note you're avoiding a bit the answer to that question, congressman. >> we had an agreement. keep this in mind. we had an agreement every democrat voted in favor. we were to vote on it september 27th, we are a few days later. then we're voting on reconciliation with 50 votes in senate and on the democratic side of the house. do we have all 50 votes in the senate? no. senator joe manchin and kristin cinema, in constant communication with them both, they have concerns and they're going to get there. in my conversation with two senators or even the moderates, none of us have ever said no to the reconciliation. we have problems with some provisions of it and the size of it but nobody said no to this
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reconciliation. >> you said you're in constant communication i think was the phrase with senator manchin and senator sinema. we'll talk about them both later in the show. they're critical as you point out to discussions. there are progressive that is are frustrated with them and frustrated with senator manchin and senator sinema. do you get that? >> of course i get that. i go back to what i said in the beginning. we are in the legislative arena. there's a give and take. we have been doing this hundreds of years here at this beautiful capitol building. that's the whole process, the art of negotiations. i will tell you they've never said no to me in any private conversations with both senators. >> let me ask you this, we talked about this at the start of the show. senator sanders making comments. he said this is not a make or break moment he said for the president's agenda. it is going to get done, may not get done today. is that fair? is he right? >> again, the senator has one
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position, we have another position. >> so you think this is a make or break moment for the biden agenda, is that what you're saying? >> what i'm saying is we made an agreement back with every democrat in the house and we were going to be voting on this this week. when somebody gives their word, we ought to move forward on it. look, can we -- some people think the reconciliation has to be done right now. is the world going to stop if we don't do reconciliation? of course not. are there things we support? i support education, health care. i believe in means testing. >> you believe in that? >> yes. why should we give people that don't need it. we only help the people. the safety net, call it reconciliation, but it is a safety net we're looking at. we want to make sure people that really need the help should get that. people that should be working should be out there working, but if we're doing a safety net, it should be means test, should be only given to people that truly
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need their help. my parents were migrants. they worked hard with their hands, taught us to work hard. i think if somebody needs to get out there and work, they should go out and work. >> this is what's in front of us now. we have the debt crisis coming up. appreciate you being candid. before i let you go, you have been in the spotlight for voting against members of your own party on the abortion bill. there was a hearing this morning as related to that topic. can you explain why, and do you think it will hurt? >> no. i tell you this. should we believe in our religious beliefs, shouldn't we also vote to our district? my district is mainly hispanic, catholic. what's wrong with voting our conscience? >> congressman, thank you so much for being with us. i imagine you have a late night if the vote happens. if it doesn't, i hope you come back and talk to us about what
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happened in those rooms. we have more to get to. some democrats are particularly frustrated with the arizona senator, kyrsten sinema. how the arizona group that fought to elect her is trying to replace her. that's coming up. that's coming up - your mom's got to go! - she's family. she's using my old spice moisturize with shea butter and she's wearing my robe. mom: ahem ahem ahem we're out. what happens when we welcome change? we can transform our workforce overnight out of convenience, or necessity. we can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries,
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people up here on the hill love to makeup nicknames. live tv, live set. but the new one, sine-manchin. they're at the center of negotiations over a spending bill. there's another one, sinemigma. sinema keeps her cards close to the vest. >> what do you say to progressives that are frustrated that they don't know where you are? >> i am in the senate. >> there are progressives in the senate that are frustrated they don't know where you are either.
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>> fact check, she was standing right in front of the elevator, but that was not the intent of the question. sinema spokesperson says she's not into negotiating in front of the press. the way she's handling this moment seems to be turning off some that got her in office. she's a moderate from a state that likes mavericks. remember john mccain? she's the first openly bisexual member of congressman and doesn't face re-election until 2024. telling "new york times" i will never vote for her again. another saying they believed in her, past tense. both participated in protests outside her offices. one lifelong arizona democrat says sinema seems like a republican in democrats' clothing. one conservative appreciates that sinema is not way left, not leaning like the rest of them. would she ever vote for sinema? probably not, she says. some of the people that have had enough are laying ground work
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for a primary challenge. one progressive organizer involved telling nbc news there's still time for senator sinema to change course. with me, msnbc national reporter sahil kapur. you wrote that piece on what could be a primary threat against senator sinema. talk to us about that and what you're hearing from sinema's end of things. she seems to be as evidence of some of what we played wholly unconcerned with the sort of press impression she may be giving off. >> reporter: that's right, hallie. there are a couple of demands democrats are making of sinema. first, that she support a progressive and robust reconciliation bill. they're quick to point out tt president biden's agenda, they say she shouldn't stand in the way of getting the president's agenda enacted. the other demand that the progressive democrats are making is that she flip her position on the filibuster, support abolishing the 60 vote rule that would enable democrats to pass
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some very significant items like voting rights, modest gun control, legalizing dreamers where they appear to have 50 votes but no chance of 60. in the last 24 to 48 hours, there are multiple different efforts to try to pressure sinema. there's the primary sinema pac, pocketed by deep pocket donors in arizona. there's a separate petition that raised 35,000, guaranteeing they support a candidate that wants to abolish filibuster in 2024 if sinema doesn't change her position, and separate effort to get a congressman, arizona democrat more progressive than sinema to run in 2024. saw him in the hallway, asked him about it. he brushed it off. his focus is getting infrastructure and reconciliation done, not a yes, but not a no. >> what's the sinema view on things? >> so sinema has said repeatedly she is not going to talk about her positions on reconciliation in public.
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she said her office repeatedly said she is not negotiating through the press and they said today she is privately communicated views to president biden and senator chuck schumer. if that's true, they haven't clued in many others on it. a lot of her colleagues in the house and senate feel in the dark about her views. there's speculation about what she's up to. there's no doubt she's alienated some democrats, progressives in arizona. i heard from some that knocked on doors, helped get her elected in 2018 that were turned off by her. but she has support with independents in arizona. this is key because arizona law allows independents to vote in primaries if they request a ballot ahead of time. there's a path if sinema wants to be centrist to push off democrats in arizona and win on support of independents. seems to view herself as a maverick in the mold of john mccain. progressive democrats don't see it that way, view her as obstructionist to president biden's agenda, doesn't deserve as much patience and rope as
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senator manchin from west virginia, a state donald trump won by 39 points. two very different situations. those two seem to be at the center of the log jam over the infrastructure bill in the house because progressives aren't letting that go until positions on reconciliation. manchin stated at the outset at least, sinema has not. >> sahil kapur, great to have you with us not far from where we are on capitol hill. thanks. appreciate it. other news we told you about, new federal crackdown on fake pills and deadly fentanyl overdoses. doj announcing coordinated efforts that led to seize of 1.8 million counter fit pills, more than 93,000 died of drug overdoses last year. biggest number of drug related deaths ever recorded in a single year. it was up 30% from the year before. with me, one of the correspondents that reported extensively on this, senior national correspondent kate snow. tell us more about what the doj is doing. you just sat down and spoke
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exclusively in the first interview with the head of the dea, right? >> i did. i did that last week. we aired that on monday. it is all part of the same push, hallie. you're seeing a press conference still ongoing with department of justice and the dea standing at the podium together saying this is a national emergency. what we're talking about are counterfeit pills, not legitimate prescription pills. they're billed or sold as legitimate but are fake. they contain fentanyl. what they're trying to raise the alarm about is that the pills can be deadly. just to give you perspective, hallie, of pills they seized with fentanyl in them, four out of ten of the pills, 40% of those are deadly. as the administrator said the other day, it is not even russian roulette. you don't know if the gun is loaded or not when you take one of those pills. i want to talk about what they just announced, you mentioned
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it. 1.8 million pills seized in the last eight weeks. they're announcing today they've intensified their seizures and made 810 arrests in the past two months, seized 158 weapons. now before that time they had already seized 9.5 million fake pills this year. hallie, that's more than the last two years combined. i know it is a lot of numbers, hard to put a point on this. they are seizing so many more counterfeit pills made to look like the real deal, kids are buying them, young people are buying them through social media, you heard the deputy attorney general moments ago call out facebook marketplace and snapchat by name saying they need to be doing more. the administrator said that to me last week as well. she said they're not doing enough to stop sales of these potentially deadly pills on their platforms, hallie.
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>> important reporting. so glad you're here to bring it to us. thank you so much. appreciate it. back to capitol hill. we are watching the house floor and the vote on the senate passed bill that would fund the government, avoid a shutdown. we are watching for the gavel. we're going to keep you posted when the vote closes and the shutdown is averted. we'll be back live from capitol hill in a moment. capitol hill in a moment this is the planning effect. if you ask suzie about the future, she'll say she's got goals. and since she's got goals, she might need help reaching them, and so she'll get some help from fidelity, and at fidelity, someone will help her create a plan for all her goals, which means suzie will be feeling so good about that plan, she can just enjoy right now. that's the planning effect, from fidelity.
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death struggle to get on board. wanted to bring you a story about one of those evacuees, helped by a number of forces coming together. a foreign special military unit. journalists from one of the most well known papers in the country and u.s. service member, a story of bravery and courage. this is what it looked like at the kabul airport the day she tried to escape afghanistan. >> every moment i went through this experience i thought okay, i'm done, i can't go further. >> her journey began as a young woman growing up in afghanistan, a student, then a journalist, and an advocate for other women like her. when the taliban took over, everything changed fast. >> freedom i had, it was gone right at that moment. >> that morning, from that morning to that afternoon? >> exactly.
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it changed in several hours. >> overseas, a reporter for usa today who knew her reached out, worried with militants capturing the presidential palace. >> it was like fatima, how you doing. where are you, you know, how can we help you. >> she was connected with a former u.s. marine and navy reservist who in turn reached out to a contact from ukraine. >> i never in the world thought this would start with one phone call to a friend i worked with at nato school to the ukrainian president, special forces. >> with the help of ukrainian special forces, she was approved for humanitarian flight from the kabul airport, but getting there and getting out proved almost impossible. she was stopped at check points, tear gassed, militants threatening to kill her. someone in the crowd sexual assaulted her. >> you tried to push forward,
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said a taliban fighter was putting a gun to your ear, you thought you were dead. >> sorry, just hurts so much. >> for alex, agony waiting for word of her condition. >> it was more stressful than being in combat in the marine corps. >> with a final push, she got to the airport and to safety. the evacuation mission over, but another mission just beginning. >> maybe there's a reason for it, a reason for representing women's voice. >> you see yourself as their representative now who made it out to be able to share their stories. >> hopefully i can do it. it is a big responsibility but hopefully i can do it. >> a lot of people think she will be able to do it. we should note, her family also made it out minutes before the attack on the kabul airport that killed dozens of civilians and 13 u.s. service members. while she was the first person rescued by alex who you saw and
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his network, they helped at least 400 get out since. turning to why we are here on capitol hill, the vote to avoid a government shutdown. going back to leigh ann caldwell. i think moments ago, the vote was gavelled. correct me if i'm wrong. i know you will. >> reporter: that's right. the vote was gavelled. it did pass, 254-175. that means there are several dozen republicans that also voted for the short term government funding bill. now it cleared both chambers of congress, it will head to the president's desk for him to sign it to keep the lights on. they did it in the nick of time because government funding was set to run out tonight at midnight. just like congress to wait until they have a deadline, to the last minute, to get this done. now that they solved one challenge, now they have just
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three left on their plate. one is to suspend or lift the debt limit by october 18th, then to pass this bipartisan infrastructure bill on roads and bridges and multi trillion dollar social human infrastructure bill that democrats want to pass as well. what we are waiting for is challenge two. bipartisan infrastructure bill. see if they hold a vote in the house of representatives today or not. speaker pelosi said she doesn't bring anything to the floor that does not pass. we don't know if she has the votes and has not scheduled the vote either, hallie. >> for people that don't know the choreography, i am looking at you real life in person. i could throw a rock if i had a good arm, not that i would, i can see you closely. i say this, i know you're looking to catch up with members and folks coming out. let me ask you, is the vice
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president still there, do we know? >> reporter: so i think she is still here. we heard sirens, thought it was her motorcade coming to get her. haven't gotten indication that she left. we know she was going to speak with speaker pelosi and leader schumer. we'll see when she leaves the meetings, if she has gone in yet. >> we heard from the press secretary, seeing it now from the vice president, i had a democratic member of congress on 15 minutes ago who was extraordinarily confident there would be a vote. went back and forth on it. viewers saw it. he believes there will be a vote on this tonight. is that confidence warranted based on what you hear from others, including the progressives? >> reporter: yeah, it is really interesting. the progressive opposition to the infrastructure bill, she said that nothing has changed with her, she has more than half
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the caucus still, even more votes today to kill the bipartisan infrastructure bill. so it is hard to see how this vote takes place and how the vote passes but what speaker pelosi is doing is a lot of meetings right now with her leadership team w different groups of house democrats, including the progressives and the moderates. and what the progressives need is they need an offramp. they need to be able to say that they got something out of this. they got some sort of reassurance. my question was with senator manchin finally coming out and giving his number of $1.5 trillion, is that going to hurt these negotiations? because at least -- because it's $1.5 trillion? or is it going to help these negotiations, because at least he's being clear about what he wants and you know, as of 20 to 30, 60 minutes ago, it seems like it had hurt these negotiations. so speaker pelosi, as they say,
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she's very masterful at this. but my sources also say this is the most complicated thing she has ever had to do. her league is he is also on the line she really wants this bill to pass. she as a lot at stake, as much as president biden does. we will see. it is really complicated. it is too early for me or anyone else really around here to say definitively what is going to happen. >> be careful on that one. leann caldwell live for us 50 feet from where outside the capitol. thanks so much. >> yep. staying in the world of politics, this afternoon more of the conservative political world is cutting out corey louanne do youski. politico says he will not be advising the governor in record to the campaign or official office. a spokesperson for the former president's save america pact tweets lewandowski will no longer be associated with trump world. although that's up to donald trump and donald trump alone.
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lewandowski has been accused of unwanted sexual advances including inappropriate touching at a charity event this sunday. when asked, an attorney says accusations and rumors are morphing by the minute and we will not deliver a response hey alex, good afternoon. thanks for being back on the show. >> thanks for having me. >> talk us through some of the latest developments on this. lewandowski has been around the block a time or two with donald trump. this is potentially significant? >> it is very significant. look, cory lewandowski has had attention before. he's been accused of unwanted sexual advances b. he was fired by donald trump in 2016. his first presidential campaign. but he's always found a way back into the president's good graces. but from everyone i have spoken with, this appears to be the most significant break yet between the two of them.
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the president and his advisers are taking this quite seriously, these disturbing allegations that over the weekend he made unwanted sexual advances repeatedly to a woman at a las vegas dinner. >> alex eisenstaedt i would normally not cut you off here my friend. it is good to have you on the show but a member of congress just sat down unexpectedly because the vote obviously delayed them. thanks for your reporting. it is interesting. i want to bring in republican congressman don bacon of nebraska. i haven't had a chance to say hello, hi. you ran over from the house floor. >> i knew you were waiting. >> i want to make this quick because we are in a bit of a time crunch here. first of all, reaction to the vote that was just taken? it appears the government shutdown just got averted. >> the majority of of republicans don't want to support it because of the chaos.
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the majority of the republicans are concerned about the $3.5 trillion, i think things will come down if we know that's not going to pass. the house and senate passed it and the president will sign it and we will have a continuing resolution. >> the bpts infrastructure bill, is your leadership whipping against that? >> yes. >> is that the right move? >> i don't agree with it. the majority of my district likes the infrastructure bill, the hard infrastructure bill. >> the smaller roads and bridges infrastructure bill, to be clear. >> the bernie sanders bill is not well liked. >> the larger social spending bill that democrats -- >> right. 70% of the people like the hard infrastructure of the roads and bridges. most of the gop leaning groups like it, the farmer's bureau, the cattlemen out of maybe ka, the chamber of commerce out of omaha. it is well liked. i don't think it was a wise move to go against it. most people see a need for roads, bridges. we have 90-year-old locks to move our grain to export.
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i think that bill is good. >> if that vote is brought to the floor today, you are voting yes? >> i am voting for it. >> how about the debt ceiling, the next big issue. i know you voted no on the house bill to suspend the debt ceiling. janet yellen said this could be catastrophic. are you willing to allow that to happen? >> i am not voting on the bill they put on the floor. they removed a sent ceiling until october '22. >> suspended the limit. >> it allows for the $3.5 trillion. >> it is past spending. >> it is going to allow for future spending. >> it pays the bills already spend during the trump administration. that's what it does. >> they are going to have to come in and say what they want to do. just to remove it, that's a non-starter. >> you are associating two things that aren't connected, right. philosophically, shouldn't the u.s. pay the bills it already owes. >> voters not going to support
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lifting the debt limit. >> you are still a no on that. >> they want to come in and say what they want. if they want to raise the debt limit that's different than removing it. that's what they were proposing. we were going to have no debt limit. i think they need to come out and say what they wanted to spend on the democratic side. >> we appreciate your time. thank you for being with us. thanks all of you for watching this hour of hallie jackson reports. as always, busy up the last second. "deadline: white house" starts right after this quick break. right after this quick break instantly ready to start working. so you can bounce back fast with alka-seltzer plus.
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earlier this afternoon following days of gridlock with republicans threatening to shut down the government in the middle of a pandemic by refusing to raise the debt limit. republicans still have not budged on that. but at least they have daned to pass a temporary pressure to keep the government open at least for the next two months. we will stay on it. the real news this weekend. president trump's -- dangels like a political opinion yachta at the mercy of today's dysfunctional washington, d.c. the senate passed the popular legislation after moderate democrats worked with republicans to make a deal. but now the day that it's supposed to be put to a vote it's up against a massive road bloc from progressive democrats in the white house who say they will refuse to vote on it unless they are promised an agreement on a separate $3.5 trillion spending package that will fund another central part of president biden's agenda. things like universal
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