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sit in the right seat. scantron you got two great pitchers, fenway park to move on. it's going to be fun. congratulations, willie. good luck the yankees against the rays. >> i don't want to know what you will be wearing tonight. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. hi, i am stephanie ruhle, live on msnbc headquarters in new york city. it's tuesday october 5th, let's get smarter. we are focusing on facebook. the company reeling from a pair of major crisis. a senate hearing gets underway featuring a single witness, former facebook manager. she's the facebook whistleblower
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whose testimonies may be the culmination of weeks of bad press. >> facebook has realized that if they change the algorithm to be safer, people will spend less time on the site and they'll click on less ads and make less money. it's subsidizing and paying for its profit with our safety. >> and doing it legally. if you thought the answer is as simple as pulling the plug on facebook, the world just found out how hard it could be. the platform went down for more than five hours. that's 3.5 billion users losing access from facebook. if you had any doubt about how
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essential facebook had become to our daily life. we got a real life example. let's bring in our jake ward and garrett headache and cheryl frankel. inside facebook, battle for domination. let's start with the shutdown. it was a crazy reminder of how dependant we are on facebook. it looks a whole lot more than a utility than a social media company. how much does yesterday's shutdown reenforced call which to break this company up which elizabeth warren has been demanded in 2016 or at the very least regulate it. >> reporter: stephanie, there is any doubt of this company takes up our life. when the outage shows us this outline of its place in
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everyone's life. when you look at the trust argument and lawmakers trying to describe the role that facebook plays and all of that was suddenly thrown into sharp leap by five hours with outage. you had every one of its platforms, instagram and facebook and whatsapp down. the extraordinary roles it plays in our lives and the way small businesses are will to do business in the way that people could not communicate with their friends and relatives. the extraordinary power and influence. >> dylan, is this outage going to force any change from the company or users? it's a legal monopoly. >> well, change in what regard? the outage is an enormous headache for the company and the
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jake's point, how much it embedded infrastructure and around so many people around the globe. they're going to take every step to make sure something like this does not happen again. i don't think they saw it anything other than a technical issue that provided a massive headache for them and tens of millions of dollars lost in reserve new. >> i want to get from the testimony, i want to hear from the whistleblower. the biggest problem regulating facebook, they can't do it because they don't have any data. this inability to see into the actual systems of facebook and confirm facebook's systems work like they say it's is like department of transportation
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regulating cars by watching them drive down." >> smart regulations demand transparency. the founders have to demand a lot of transparency before they can no how to regulate? >> absolutely. >> and it's not shared details of this algorithm. i think one of those interesting was one in which they looked at the changes and bringing people closer together. he says people want to hear more from friends and family and creating meaningful connections. what we see these documents actually show us is facebook was emphasizing the type of content that had more hate speech and more misinformation. their researchers were showing them that will by down playing
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news, people actually see a lot more problematic content. >> i don't think we would have that kind of intelligence or information if this whistleblower had not brought that research to light. >> here is the thing, garrett. we didn't have this information from the whistleblower. it's a shock to know them. should congress be? all of this is known and they have not done anything for years. >> we have not updated rules on the internet for years and years. >> yeah, look, we are giving congress way too much credit if we think of having a little more data of how facebook's algorithm works? >> it's the thing that holds them back. congress can barely get their arms around understanding how these companies work and how to regulate them. you see members of congress asking questions with just most basic levels of technical
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understanding. that's one part of it. the second part is the party has different approaches in regulating this content, what does it even mean? when you talk to democrats in my cases, removing harmful content and monitoring. those values are opposed. >> i think congress is a long way of getting their arounds around any of these sites. >> today is another show. i want to play a little bit of what nick played on facebook said over the weekend responding to claim that is the company puts profit over safety. that iy puts profit over safety. >> advertisers don't want that content next to hateful extreme or unpleasant content. we have no commercial incentives
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or anything other than trying to give the maximum number of people as much of a positive experience as possible. >> is that just words smithing. it's exactly what advertising wants? >> in the dark of night when the news story past, all those advertisers came right back. >> exactly right. >> you hit the nail on the head. advertisers come to facebook, they look at how many times a day are you locking into facebook and they're asking how many questions of what's being imposed. >> how many hours of the day have you captured this. and for as long as we as
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consumers are obsessed with being on facebook, hey, facebook can tell them we have your attention of five or six hours a day. it's all going to come back. >> is this an embarrassment for congress? >> no matter how representable behavior, we'll find out is all illegal. >> congress has had a monstrous, it's once upon a time they looked at these giant american based technical companies as an important allies and important signs of american innovation and know companies innovated so fast. >> that congress lost the handle of how to do them. you will see members with just the bare -
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>> they seem to have found a metaphor. we heard more and more people comparing this company to tobacco. that was something that congress ultimately got moving and figuring out how to find a regulation on similar product. >> that suggests that is the way lawmakers are looking at this company now. >> dylan. why should the company be doing anything differently? >> advertising difrtly. >> users, growth is up. they're not losing drove of employees. they have not violated any regulations, with the exception of really bad press. >> why should the company do anything different? >> well, there is actually one reason only, if and when facebook falls, it's not going to fall from the external pressure. that that internal pressure is
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to keep users. i i agree with derek. >> the ball is very much in time of his court. >> we got a preview yesterday, what's it did not get rid of the misinformation or the boy or services like tiktok. things that may give young girls depression or anxiety or none of that went away. >> i think congress is serious about trying to come up with a world winner, there is a better. there can be social media. there is not a false choice of privacy and freedom.
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>> right now a lot of really bad things happen on the internet. it's up to congress to change that. thank you all for starting us off. >> coming up, we are going to stay on this story because facebook global head of safety will be here for an exclusive ber view after what we have seen the last 48 hours, is it time to regulate this company? break it up. plus, president biden hitting the road. g the road ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪
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. president biden named a new price tag for his infrastructure bill telling house progressives it could get passed between 1.9 and 2.2 bucks. schumer said it must be raised this week. treasury secretary yellen saying this morning "there is no time to wait." >> failing to pay any of our bills become due would be catastrophic. >> mike is in michigan where president biden will be visiting today and also with us, john.
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progressives want $6 trillion and now they want 3.5. are they cool with this? i watched a lot of interviews saying all or nothing. >> are they cool with it and they're going to have to accept something less than $3.5 trillion, yes. it makes it clear that the price tag will fall under $3.5 trillion. president biden identified $1.9 trillion to $2.2 trillion as a sweet spot. you can see progressives are holding the line. they're not ready to come down from $3.5 trillion. i want to play some sound from my nbc colleague asking them about this yesterday. >> 3.5 is a conservative number. >> are you willing to go down?
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>> no. >> now this is the beginning of the negotiations, stephanie, progressives are going to have to decide how low they'll go. they're not going to walk away from this deal. and in the meantime the white house and progressives are going to have to convince joe manchin and kirsten sinema that there are more than $1.5 trillion good stuff. yesterday biden spoke with a group of democrats including jayapal. and she talked about wanting at a minimum of $2.5 trillion more likely in $3 trillion range. there is movement happening. this is where they have to make difficult decisions of what gets caught and reduced and their goal is to get it all done at
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the end of october. >> why is the president so confident that he can get manchin and sinema to go along with the $2.2 trillion bill. i am not sure if i can get sinema to confirm today is tuesday. >> this is part of what the president is hoping to do by taking this conversation that's so heavily behind the scenes and inside the belt way and in the halls of washington and back onto the road where the president is making it a sales pitch to the people who'll benefit from it. you will see the president come today to these sprawling campus here, a union that'll benefit from the president's plan. he'll be meeting with key moderates who are skeptical. it's now serving her second term and she's one of those democrats who's at risk in the midterm election. she wants to vote for the bipartisan bill yesterday.
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she's going to use the opportunity with the president, spending some one-on-one time to make it clear to him that she's not yet on board with the larger reconciliation package. what the president is going to be doing is mixing that one-on-one lobbying with the larger political push to reenforce with the white house what they maintained all alone. proposals that would include child care and autoindustry that's so critical to this state that's broadly popular to the public. that's why those democratic hold out needs to come along. it's still a long way. this is the first of more public sales jobs to come. >> a reminder, you got all sorts of moderate members of congress in swing districts who are urging the president if you go far, we'll lose our seats. john, i want to switch gears and play with mitch mcconnell
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yesterday. let's listen. >> majority needs to stop sleepwalking towards another preventable crisis. democrats need to tackle the deadline. we gave them a road map and three months notice. i suggest that our colleagues get moving. >> why are we surprised? >> we have been saying all day long these the republican bills. this is the most on brand thing for mitch mcconnell to do ever. he's there to be a thorn on joe biden's side. that's what he's doing. unfortunately, if disaster strikes, no one is going to look to say if it's republicans. is that the card mitch mcconnell is playing? >> yeah, you are exactly right. the president and the democrats and congress is in control by democrats. mcconnell has been out in the open since july about this.
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listen, you can attack him for hypocrisy on this. there is a lot of ground there. he has been open about this. he did an interview on july 21st and he said it publicly that he wants democrats to do his procedure. this is a catastrophe as you pleaded and treasury secretary yellen said today, there is a dead default. that's a catastrophe, that's going to hit americans across the country. it's going to hit the entire country and the world. it's going to be a real blow that could cause a recession. the stakes here -- >> the stakes could not be higher. he's right. michael and john, thank you so much. next, we'll take you to the state of california where the governor has declared a state of emergency after a massive oil spill started this morning and
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the oils is moving fast, down the coast and it could reach mexico soon. beaches are harbors are closed along the 125 miles stretch.
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erin mclaughlin is outside of l.a. how long have the oil been leaking, what have we know? >> reporter: that's a critical question, stephanie. it's critical to understand just how much oil leaked into the ocean. officials provide the number upward of 186,000 gallons to say they believe it's 144,000 gallons of oil spilled into the ocean. we know residents here in orange county first reported smelling gas on friday. it was not until late friday evening around 10:00 p.m. that state and federal officials reviewed oil records, there could potentially be oil spill off the coast of southern california. it was not until saturday morning that amplify alerted the
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coast guards, based on a visual inspection of the water. it was not until noon that the coast guard then alerted the public. that timeline is being heavily scrutinized right now, not only to ascertain when the oil started leaking but also the nature and speed of the response. in terms of the leak itself amplify yesterday said they believed they have found the potential source of the leak of 4.5 miles off the shore. confirming the leak have been found. all of that part of this ongoing investigation as multiple agencies are furiously working to contain this. stephanie. >> thank you erin mclaughlin, we'll continue to cover it. coming up, a different kind of clean up. facebook is under fire yesterday, a major outage, a
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months. markets have been hitting record highs back in september well before facebook's most recent issues and allegations when it comes to misinformation. traders and investors given a reason to fail stocks. they began to rise back in august and those rising rates can lead to lower growths in the future for these tech companies and media companies, they also change the assumptions of whether stocks are no longer a relative value. some of the hardest hit companies in the market since the sell-off really took hold have not been facebook but other social media companies, we are talking twitter and snap chat and pinterest, all have been taking hits now. you mentioned on your show quite a bit the reduced manufacturing capacity and shipping capacity. the industry is computer chips.
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those types of companies. take a look at other companies like nvidia and qualcomm and there is a reason why companies like facebook are a key trader, the biggest traded company in america and had the biggest decline over the last month. that's $158 billion in mark value loss. >> dom chu, thank you so much. just 25 minutes from now, the whistleblower will testify. there is a lot more questions whether the company needs to be regulated or possibly broken up. joining me now to discuss, facebook's global health of safety. i know it has been a couple of days. your entire unit is about
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safety. do we know for sure that our data was not breached? >> i don't have particular information on the outage yet and we are working on it. whether it's whatsapp or people communicating with families all over the world. in 2008 was our last big outage that we had, we had have few of them that's because we do operate at scale and we invest $13 billion since 2016 in our safety and security systems. these are rare instances that we work quickly to resolve this them. >> do we know there is a data breach? >> i don't believe so. i don't have that information so i am not the right person to ask. >> is it true that facebook employees had to physically
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reset the company's servers and break through the cages. it's a utility and we are dependant on your company. >> i think that sort of goes directly to the point that you raised at the top of the interview which is the issue of regulation. one of the things as facebook is coming, we put in place numerous systems. we have transparency reports and we submit ourself to human rights and impact assessment and we ask for independent audit of our transparency reports so people have faith in our system. people would like to see some regulations. we would like to see regulations as well to your point. >> i want to go back quickly, did your team have to physically breakthrough cages in order to reset the servers? >> my team certainly did. >> did the facebook team? >> pardon me, i don't have the specifics on that. >> you mentioned transparency
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and regulations sort of across the board, that is call to action to congress to do something. the whistleblower's claim, she says congress does not have the information. it would be like the department of transportation not even getting set foot inside a car or know they have seat belts. how much access do you give the government? >> that's an important question. we have proposed four different regulatory solutions that would open up the doors for some of these work. i will give you specific examples. 25 years ago, congress passed cba 23. only if they have certain processes in place. they have a certain degree of transparency in place that they do certain reporting and we even set up a regulator who can have some interplay with tech companies around those
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particular regulations and etc. >> then until congress does something, it's on you. i want to understand content. what is the metric for acceptable content if users don't drop out and if advertisers don't leave and if you don't break the law, is that acceptable? >> it sounds like the lowest common denominator. we want to provide people with the best experience of that. that means certainly we want to deal with illegal contents. we want to deal with other kinds of harmful contents and having the right rules in place. >> i asked with the lowest common denominator because there is a lot of awful things on the platform. what metrics do you use? >> we have a community standard, what we do is look at a number of different things. how much contents are we moving. we know many chances in the area
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that i work on, over 90%. 95% or 98% for some instances removed before anybody reports it to us. we are building in prevalent metrics. again, we have an independent auditors coming to look at the methodology. i really do think this is where it would be great to see congress act. if we were able to work with them and if they were able to provide some sort of systems which they verify our processes and they acknowledge whether we are using the best industry practices. that's better for the industry. that allows people to have faith in our system and that's why we elect our public officials. >> why do you think it has not happened. you got all sorts of lobbyist in washington, what do they push lawmakers for? >> it's an interesting question. i will give an example of a particular area and it connects
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cba 230. it has a lot of potential, it got to a lot of what i just described. it ended up not going forward when it moved away from issues of child safety to issues of conservative bias assort of driving it. you saw a wedge between the two parties. but, the fundamental premise across both parties is we want the industry to be regulated. so let's actually move away from conservatives and look broadly at the industry itself. >> when you and your unit deemed something unsafe, something removed from the platform, who do you go to? is it the people who are responsible for revenue generation, is it mark zuckerberg? >> when you deemed something unsafe, do you get to decide let's remove from this from the platform or the people who's
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responsible for revenue? >> i don't personally decide. it's the safe and security team that decides. of course we want to allow for freedom of expression. one of the underlying principles of the work that we do is ensuring people safety and security. most people do feel quite safe and secure on our platform. they're coming back and using our platform because they do feel safe and secure. we are doing a good job to get that content off. i do think there are validation systems that people want in place. >> a lot of people -- a lot of people felt safe and secure smoking cigarettes or not getting vaccinated because that's how they wanted the feel and then more responsible bodies came in and says no, this is not safe. how people feel is not necessarily what the right thing is, right? people don't feel like putting seat belts on. they're uncomfortable but they
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wear them because it's saves them. >> and i think we are actually fundamentally aligned here which is we do think that is what's necessary. we do think that regulations is important so if there is somebody outside of us validating our work. to give you sort of specific examples of something that we also would like to see that i think is relevant to questions that i received during the hearing on these issues is research. so people have been pushing us for additional access to our data so that they can do independent research to verify things. it would be very helpful for our company if there were some rules around what we could provide people and what we could not provide. that's sensitive data that we hold. having rules around that would enable us to have an outside validater state to us, here, this is what's okay to share and okay for people to look at and do their research. that would be useful for us.
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having us decide that is not what people want. >> before we go, take your data and analytics hat, we are both women and we are both moms. when you think of mental health and bullying and body image issues. do you think social media platforms like facebook and instagram have done harm to our kids? >> as a mom, i would not be at the company if i thought social media has done harm to our children. do i think that parents deserve to have better tools and more insights and to what their kids are doing aligned? absolutely. during the hearing when senaor blumenthal was asking, what he was trying to get at is parents don't have access or can't see what their children are doing. one of the things we are doing in the absence of regulations, we'll launch supervise tools for
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recognizable leader against covid-19, francis collins, will leave his place by the end of the year. all of this while covid cases are falling. you want to know what's up? the rising number of violence against hospital staff across the country. nbc's cal perry is at the hospital in northeast georgia where incidents of a verbal and physical assault tripled this year compares to two years ago. what in the world is happening to staff on the ground to people who are saving lives. >> reporter: our healthcare workers had a five times chance of being injured on the job than any other job functioning in the country. it's alarming and getting worse. as you said the hospital behind me is seeing a break out in
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these assaults and sometimes physical and verbal. it's having an effect on the staff as you can imagine. take a look at dr. davies, what he told me yesterday, he works in the emergency room here. >> they are exhausted. there are fewer people feel they can bare the risk to come to work. the risk of being exposed to covid and verbal physical and sexually assaultassaults. it's a real risk to a lot of folks. >> reporter: between february and june of 2020, 44% of nurses say they experienced some kind of physical assaults. 68 says they experienced some kind of verbal assaults. this is a country of hundreds of thousands of people are dying alone and often times they died alone. it's causing violence in the lobby and it's why you see security when you enter hospitals now as some of the first people you meet at the
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doorsteps. >> my goodness. we have seen videos like this popping up across the country. they show school board members who are unpaid volunteers being harassed and threaten for trying to do their jobs. attorney general directing fede authorities to explore ways to help protect them. his decision comes just days after the head of the national school board association, viola garcia, wrote to president biden to ask for help. viola joins me now. viola, my mom sat on my town school board for years. when i read about this, i just can't even believe it. what are you telling -- what are your members telling you about their experiences and what kind of help do you want from the federal government? i mean, bodyguards for school board members? >> no, thank you so much for having me. we appreciate your mom's service. and like other school board members across the country, we are deeply concerned about what has been occurring. and so, as you said, yesterday
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it was announced by the u.s. justice department that they would be working with the fbi and begin meeting with state and local law enforcement leaders to address these threats against educators and school board members. that's the type of coordination we were hoping for. and we hope it sends a strong signal to individuals with violent intentions. school board members, as you mentioned, earlier, are volunteers in their communities. these are neighbors to the parents who send children to school and, so, we are deeply concerned. there are some incidents where the threats of violence very, very serious. >> what do you say to people that argue -- i can't even believe i'm saying this -- that, well, the violence just parents versus parents and the feds don't need to be involved? >> well, i think that is why. that's one of the primary reasons that we sent the letter. we understand that these are perhaps coordinated efforts, letters across states are very
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similar. the messaging is very similar. the talking points presented at school boards, and sometimes they're not even talking. they are yelling and creating chaos. and so what is so disruptive about this is that school boards are intent on educating students. we engage with parents in every way. you're familiar -- your mom shared with you, they're invited to our school board meetings. we have parent engagement activities at schools. they're involved on parent advisory boards. absolutely, i think i want to correct something here we are not talking about students who are engaged with us and working with us to educate their children. that is what we intent to do. that is what we have always done, even through controversial issues. what we are concerned about are
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individuals intent on creating chaos for the sake of creating chaos, as was demonstrated in the piece that you showed a while ago, occurring in the medical profession. and so that is our biggest concern and that is why we believe that the department of justice can further assess the level of threats and perhaps coordinate their investigation of these, because it is occurring as we've shared and you've shared in some of your videos, it's occurring across state lines. the use of the internet, the use of the postal service, to deliver these intentional messages of chaos, really call for more than a local enforcement, more -- you know, these are -- school board members do not have, as i said, we're volunteers. we do not have the resources in our schools to work on that type of coordinated effort. and so it's really critical that our parents understand, we want
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to hear from them. the parents entrust us with the care of their children, and that is the primary reason that school board members serve, to serve the community. these are civic-minded individuals. and so, thank you. thank you for having us and thank you for the opportunity to share. >> viola, thank you for joining us this morning. when you look at those videos, you look at the rage, the anger, you think, what is this doing to the children in those homes and their mental health. viola, thank you, again, for joining us this morning. we're going to leave it there. coming up, one father's fight to shine a light on hundreds of missing indigenous women. the stories we don't often hear about, but we're going to, next. about, but we're going to,ex nt. this is... ♪♪ this is iowa. we just haven't been properly introduced. say hello to the place where rolling hills meets low bills. where our fields, inside and out, are always growing.
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times the national average. these are stories weapon don't often see or hear about, but one man just made his second coast-to-coast trip biking and running across the country to our nation's capital to raise awareness against the violence against women in his community, to make sure their stories are not forgotten. nbc's antonia hilton has more. >> reporter: duane garve lawrence is on a mission, in search of justice for missing and murdered indigenous women. >> the percentage of the women, you know, missing was unbelievable. >> reporter: biking and running across the country, finally making it to washington, d.c. last week, to meet with some of the nation's lawmakers to discuss dedicating more resources to finding missing native women. more than four out of five indigenous women experience violence in their lifetimes and are murdered at rates more than ten times the national average. >> it was this kind of journey, what it takes to get attention on your cases. >> if that's what it takes, that's what we're doing. >> reporter: duane, a father of
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five, met with families of missing along the way. paula castro's 14-year-old daughter, henny, went missing from the cheyenne reservation in 2018 after playing basketball with friends. >> how do you feel law enforcement handled your case? >> i don't think they did. that's how i feel. we would keep calling them, keep calling them. we filled out missing persons reports there. come to find out that it was just sitting on a desk. >> reporter: the family organized their own volunteer search party. two weeks later, henny's body was found with injuries to her face. still, her death was ruled accidental. the lack of attention has left henny's family heartbroken. >> like, she wasn't important enough. that's how it made me feel. >> reporter: in d.c., duane's wife and daughters traveled to join him. >> what needs to change now? >> we need more detectives, we need people to come up with programs and plans. >> reporter: on friday, duane concluded his cross-country
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journey by running three miles around the national mall, celebrating with drummers, dancers, and tribal leaders. for his family, this moment represents a turning point. >> i believe that. i can feel it. i really can. >> reporter: a prayer that missing and murdered indigenous people's stories no longer go ignored. >> stephanie, duane is not doing this work alone. there are numerous tribal leaders around the country collaborating with him on this mmiw bike and run usa effort. and they believe something is going to change now, that the attention on gabby petito, the hunt for brian laundrie, has made the nation aware of the disparity in our attention for these cases. now law enforcement officials are going to have to take action. >> antonia, thank you so much. come back soon. we're going to keep telling these stories. but right now, we are just seconds away from that facebook testimony on capitol hill, a day after that massive outage. you better stick around.
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i am stephanie ruhle, do not go anywhere. my colleague, jose diaz-balart picks up coverage right now. >> good morning, stephanie ruhle. it's 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. and the stage is indeed set for yet another tough day for facebook. any minute now, one of the company's former project managers is set to testify on what she calls the company's betrayal of democracy. this comes one day after the world's largest social media company went dark for over five hours after a technical glitch. also on capitol hill this morning, the united states is now less than two weeks from defaulting on its debt. we'll talk to senator alex padilla about how lawmakers plan to prevent what could be an economic catastrophe. and south of the border, 20,000 migrants are now crammed into what was once a beach destination for tourists. nbc's gabe gutierrez will join us live from columbus with the latest. >>

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