flight. >> a lot of women are hoping that can inspire a younger female, daughter, or niece and we just want to keep working. >> they're here. that does it for me this hour. "andrea mitchell reports" starts now. good day, this is andrea mitchell reports. an agreement between senate leaders comes with the nation just 11 days from a mobile economic melt down. >> we have reached agreement to extend the debt ceiling through early december and it is our hope that we can get this done as soon as today. >> president biden going to chicago this hour for an event touting the public health

benefits of vaccine mandates this as the president's approval in a new poll is plummeting to 38% nationally. they are also under water on the economy, coronavirus, and more. pfizer is submitting a request for emergency use authorization of a vaccine for children ages five to 11. ly get reaction from dr. michael ostraholm. >> and a question for an injunction to stop the state's restrictive new abortion law to stop from continuing. the state asked the fifth circuit court of appeals to reinstate the law. we begin here in washington with nbc senior congressional correspondent garrett haake and jonathan lamier. you have been so busy. garrett 24 hours ago we had a senate vote that we expected to

fail. now there is a tentative agreement on the delay. >> that's right both parties agree they have a deal. a short-term agreement here to kick the debt ceiling off until december. it means at some point that everyone will vote to raise the debt ceiling by about $480 million. that is the number they were told they would have to get to by december 3rd. democrats are saying this is mitch mcconnell blinking. it gives them two more months to work on the president's agenda without the debt ceiling cliff hanging over there. mcconnell is explaying the explaining the chance in position like this. >> the path way that our democratic colleagues accepted will spare the american people any near-term crisis. they will have time to address

the debt limit through the 304 reconciliation process. now there will be no question they will have plenty of time. >> and mcconnell is right here in the sense that there is no longer time for democrats to adjust the debt ceiling via reconciliation. democrats say thank you, we'll talk the short-term extension and then fight about this again in december. democrats have no interest in addressing the debt ceiling through a reconciliation process. they think is sets a bad precedent. so why, they argue, should we not expect him to blink begin in december if we find ourselves up against yet another deadline. >> and jonathan, any good news would be welcome. >> it shows that he is in donald trump territory, if you will. the administration has bad

numbers on just about everything. jobs, coronavirus, everything. >> andrea, you're right. you hit the main reasons why. the white house acknowledges there has been some struggle, but they're still behind the scenes preaching confidence. they believe things will ick up soon. they say afghanistan faded from the headlines and so has the dispute with france other the submarines. in terms of here at home no doubt the delta variant caused a real surge in covid cases but that surge seems to have ended. the cases and hospitalizations and deaths are starting to climb across the nation. this comes with good news again today, the government is asking for a vaccine for children ages five through 12. the shots won't be in arms for a month or so, but it is another step on that journey which is a big one. they're looking to increase

vaccination rates across the country. they point to the fact that vaccine mandates have worked and the president will highlight that today in his trip to chicagoland. lastly there is headlines regarding getting an agenda through congress. but the government did not shut down. the debt ceiling is not being breeched, and they belief they now have a window in the next two months or so to get this done. two pieces of the agenda. the infrastructure bill and the bigger reconciliation package. they think there will be success. and that will give democrats something to run on next year and i think the president's in your opinions will go up accordingly. >> and he needs a win, certainly on this reconciliation package. where do things stand. you have the democrats spending bill tied up with manchin and sinema. frustration boiling over from bernie sanders directing his colleagues yesterday with you in the briefing room, and we spoke

to rachael maddow, let's watch. >> i'm tired of the generalities. hearing what mr. manchin and ms. sinema are saying. let's negotiate. get a 50/50 deal. mr. deserves to be heard and get compromises, but one or two people should not dictate the process. >> you were pointing out to the senator yesterday he has avoided criticizing manchin and his other colleagues, but yesterday his frustration boiled over. >> bernie sanders had it up to here with joe manchin. he has been forced to negotiate it down from the levels that he wanted to see at the beginning and likely will have to negotiate down further still. and it is not even that he is upset about what joe manchin

says he wants or doesn't want, it's that manchin is not saying enough. and the time for playing footsie with what we're going to do is long since passed. he wants them to come to the negotiating table and to get serious. >> thank you, and with that debt default being delayed, lloyd austin and seven of his predecessors are speaking about the debt ceiling and how this affects our veterans. secretary cohen, i want to talk about the national security implications of the debt ceiling. before we get to that i want to draw on your decades of

experience, as a colleague of mitch mcconnell for a dozen years. how is this playing out? mcconnell saying a flat no, do it on your own, when it has been bipartisan. >> well, to me at some point in time, and that time i think has passed, you have to put the well-being of the nation ahead of the political effect of our parties. and in this particular case, this is the equivalent for me of saying uncle sam just fired a warning shot to his temple. you have members of congress that are not going to raise it or they have to raise it on their open, and we'll filibuster it if you do, this would have an impact on the moral of our military. other the course of our service, of families, of readiness in terms of capability. and what kind of a signal would

that send to our eneies abroad. those looking for weaknesses in our system to take advantage of the instability that we create in the marketplace. it would go way down. people would lose billions of dollars in this economy. we know this because it happened back in 2011 when the mere threat of passing the increase in the debt limit that compromised our aaa rating, down to aa, caused a billion dollars in our economy. why would we do this again if only to put the other party in jeopardy by says guess what? this party is raising the debt limit. yeah, we are. so trying to make a point and put out ads at the expense of the american people is shameful. i think it was the marketplace

that caused this deal to be made on a temporary basis. when they saw no deal was going to be made, or there would be a filibuster if they did it on their own the market went way down. so let's stop playing with the market. it is causing harm certainly to our economy and our interests and it is causing harm to the image of the united states as the leading democracy in the world. if we can't reach a decision forget about the infrastructure bill for the moment. if we can't reach a decision that we're going to pay our bills and that we will default on the full faith and credit of the united states, what signal does that send to any other country, friend or faux, that our country is worth emulating? >> and people watching, including president xi, who is going to be having, we're told,

a virtual meeting, not in-person with president biden, so whatever summit was hoped for at the g 20 is now going to be virtual. >> think about this. think about the fact that our chairman of the join chiefs felt compelled just before the elections of 2020 and after the assault on 2012. the chairman of the joint chiefs felt compelling to call his counter part because he might interpresent the chaos in the country as an excuse to do something radical and dangerous. what signal does this send about the stability of our economy when we can't even reach an agreement. not to mention what we'll have to pay in terms of the new bills that are legislation that will be passed. so it is a very bad signal about

what is happening with this democracy. it looks look it is corroding and eroding from within. we have to be worried -- they have to be worried that they will take irrational action. i don't think they have to worry, but it doesn't send a very positive signal from within. i think members of congress ought to be held accountable. when they do these things. >> former defense secretary former defense secretary, thank you. pressure tactics. new details on what donald trump did in the wake of the election. we'll have more including the breaking news on the debt

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zlrgts the senate judiciary committee has unleashed a stunning new report to get justice department officials to help overturn the results of the 2020 election. it included repeated phone calls to jeffrey rosen.

that threat leading to a dramatic scene in the oval office this morning. >> he descended from the president's position and said it is a murder-suicide pact. the department decided not to pursue that court. >> joning me now ed marky and chris kohns. this is an amazing report that you have been working on for months. >> andrea, this hays out in great dae tail how close we were to a gin win constitutional crisis that president trump personally pressed and pressured and threatened the acting attorney general to push his false and flawed stolen election

theory nine times. it was only because of this determined effort in a smile group to insist they would resign on masks if he proceeded. that is the only thing that held trump back from doing so. we need to work to restore the guard krals. and we'll continue to partner with the ongoing investigation in the house to make sure that final recommendations that come out are meaningful and actionable. >> i also want to ask you about what senator schumer says about the debt ceiling for a short-term extension. what does that resol? the same issue will be looming over everyone in december in at the same time you can keep the government going. so why not confront it now? >> we have more time to work it

out. they were acting irresponsiblely. they were putting the full faith and credit of the united states at risk. this gives us time through december to pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill. it gives us time to pass the reconciliation bill that has all of the funding in for child care and for free community college to deal with the climate crisis. we can get the bills passed and then come back and resolve that issue. it is bet tore have the crisis later than now. we're still talking for whatever his reasons were, mitch mcconnell blinks and in the meantime we can get the good things done for our country. >> and why not tie this to reconciliation? >> because they're completely

unrelated. they're about future spending and a future vision for our country. what the debt ceiling is about is paying for the debts that we have already incured and largely under republican presence. from john boehner to kevin mccarthy. the litny of republican participation in the construction of this debt is just totally populated with republican leadership. we want to pay off of those debts and then have the reconciliation bill. >> i want to ask both of you about this civilian climate core plan employ young americans in good jobs. how would this work, senator, to both of you? >> it has been great partnering with senator marky on this. and this is just a part of the broader agenda for how we're

going to make a lasting difference in the impact of climate here in the united states. we're going to partner with the americorp program. and adding to it a bold mission to be more climate ready and more climate resilient. we will put tens of thousands of new members out. and we're going to create new jobs, higher pay, and a more inclusive and diverse 21st century. >> do you have assurances that this will be included? >> yes, president biden strongly

supports it. senator schumer has worked so closely with us, and at it's core it just goes to the question of climate justice. this program will ultimately employ hundreds of thousands of people. 50% will come from communities of color. 50% of the funding will go into communities of color and we will not have to remediate those injustices. and we have the strong support from the white house and leadership that it will be included. >> finally senator markey. you have been a voice in the wilderness for at least a decade. as a result of the whistle-blower testimony now, do you think there is bipartisan momentum for that to happen? >> yes, first, francis haugan, what a hero, she just issued a blistering and scalding indictment of facebook from it's

inception. now it is time to pass legislation. up to age 16 so that the parents can control the information that children are putting online. and can just stop it if they want to. so they can stop this marketing to children. taking advantage of their young age, and that we can do the kind of research that we need to do to see what the memberal health impacts are of the online social media websites. i think it is a crisis and it's time for us to have to deal with it, and i think what francis haugan did will give us the momentum to get it done this year. >> and as someone that knows joe biden so well, how is he doing and will he get these big deals through? >> he is focused and optimistic

about our chance of getting the build back better agenda resolved and moved through the senate and the house. if we get to the end of this year and president biden signed into law a 1.2 trillion infrastructure package that creates hundreds of thousands of high skill and high wage jobs, and more than two trillion in the next decade that they will invest in big tax reform, reducing costs for working families, helping make easier challenges. and they confront climate, we'll have a very strong agenda to run on and president biden should be opt mistech. i, too, i think senaor markey joins. we have a chance of hammering out a compromise. >> voices of optimism on capitol

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zljts pfizer is formally a. this comes as covid cases are on the decline. you can see him leaving the wous at this hour to tout the success of vaccine mandates. joining me now. also a member of the assuing it is going through the fda at first. what does it mean for the

efforts to fight the pandemic. >>. >> they are trying to reduce the number of new ipfections there. we have seen major outbreaks in schools. we're still seeing the surge still, we don't have any beds open right now. it is going to make a lot of participants and grandparents feel safer. . when they're not vaccinated, en though they may have been vaccinated we know there is breakthrough infections. and thigh families will be able to feel better. >> as you know i know you're excited about it. >> i can empathize with that. >> we're seeing the numbers

down. how optimistic are you that we could be finally turning a quarter? >> we are turning a quarter on this surge. it started in the ozark region. we have seen that threat through the southeastern sunbelt states. at the same time we saw it spread moving eastward b with but right now we have real channels. less populated areas leek the upper midwest. we're still seeing alaska report the highest levels of infection anywhere in the world. and we're seeing upticks in cases in maine, vermont, and new hampshire. we're coming out of a surge.

we still have 65 million americans over the age of 12 that have not been vaccinated and surely would for the coronavirus to burn in the future in is not the last surge and we have places like new york and l.a. that were basically spared this particular surge and we know we have sizable populations there. stay tuned, it is dropping but it is a challenge. >> and will more testing help improve going forward? the administration is now proposing to spend a billion dollars to get easy at home rapid tests in people's hands? >> yeah, this is a great idea. we want to get as many people vaccinated as possible. we want to get the cases reported and we're trying to track the actual pandemic as it

unfolds. suddenly a large number of people are being tested and we won't be able to track it. so we want to get testing done and at the same time we're trying to figure out ways to get that information reported. >> yeah, we're really lagging behind europe. i just got back from france and tests are just in the neighborhood drugstore. get in line and it's even easier in the uk. those with national medical plans find it easier to do the tracking and it helped diminish the searches as well. thank you, doctor, as always it's a pleasure. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> good to see you. texas showdown for now, a federal judge ruling to stop the enforcement of that texas abortion law. how long will it remain in effect? this is msnbc. effect this is msnbc. alka seltzer plus cold relief. dissolves quickly. instantly ready to start working.

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expect from the fifth circuit? it's one of the most congress servetive circuits. >> remember the court of appeals delined the hold, but this is a different issue about whether or not texas had the authority to do this in the first place. >> now they can reopen. we're told some providers are reluctant. >> the judge ordered all texas courts not to interand it any of these private lawsuits that they would allow. here is the thing. the law explicitly says that if a ruling against sva is overturned, anyone in the interim relied on a stay and they can then be sued.

there is a current law in texas and they could still be sued if sba is later upheld. >> you know it seems the way the legislature roek this was designed to get around any kind of legal action by the justice department. >> no question about ta, what the judge say social security that basically you can't do that. the judge basically says you can't have a law where nobody can go in and challenge the derivation of a constitutional right and he says the federal government has a unique ability to do that. it is making sure that the fall law is that they are enforcing civil rights protections. he says night try, texas, you can't do this. can a state do that? >> we know they're taking up the

mississippi 15 week, not the six week ban. is there any way those cases could be combined? >> no, they're entirely different issues. with the supreme court were to strike down roe and a state can ban abortion before viability then the texas law would not be unconstitutional. the supreme court and the court of appeals will likely have to decide this one question well before next june which is when we get a decision on the constitutional decision about roe. >> pete williams, thank you very much for being here. steps away from disaster. how the tactics of the former president line up with strong men around the world. fiona hill will be here next on msnbc. n msnbc.

the committee released their report on former president trump's plan to pressure the department of justice to overturn the 2020 election. someone with a knew neek perspective is fiona hill. shy was a key witness in the first impeachment process.

>> joining me now is fiona hill who served as deputy assistant for part of the national security council. your book is so timely as we're learning here today about president trump's attempts to overturn the election. you write "the storing of the u.s. capital building requests was just one episode in a long period of provocative moves. it was in it's essence the culmination of a wondering why

call it a slow motion coup. >> thank you for having me on today. most people think of a coup, it means something very sudden, as a military takeover, something with a middle plot behind the scenes that all happens in an instance. in this case president trump normalized what he was going to do. it started before the first impeachment trial and it went on through the election cam pane. saying it would be stolen. any other outline was a falsification. doing he can to try to remain in power. that is when i might buy something in slow motion. we all watch it happening. because it didn't seem to be behind the scenes it seems

clandestine. >> you also write about trump's fascination with vladimir putin and autocrats. >> it was the attraction of the ultimate strong man and populous leader that got away from it. vladamir putin was able to bust through rights and you may also remember that and he tried to amend the constitution. they are sending all of these memos around and having people

write memos to do the same thing. his fascination is for people that got away with this. people keeping themselves in power for as much personal gain as anything else. >> and you write that you wanted to end the whole thing and that you contemplated throwing a fit of faking seizure. what was happening behind the scenes? >> i guess it was what was happening in front of the scenes. behind the scenes it was totally normal, if you can call it that, interaction between two presidents talking about arms control and future interruptions at high levels. what we had on the stage was abnormal from a presidential press conference and you know the large sweep of these kinds of things over u.s. contemorary history and that was president trump being asked whether or not he believed vladimir putin other

his intelligence services by jonathan lemier, one of the key press reporter there is, and president trump was trying to defer to his favorite strong man to putin. he didn't want to be shown up, he didn't want to be put there, and he sided with putin over the definitive conclusions of all of his key cabinet members and the intelligence services about what the russian security services had done in 2016 in our election. >> which had to be immediately rebutted by the head of the national intelligence. and you also write that the exam of modern russia, that i spent most of my career closely studying offers a cautionary tale for the united states at this juncture. you write that russia is a ghost

of christmas future. the way that misinformation has become sacred among some many of the president's followers. >> look, it starts with people going out there and telling the truth up there and telling the truth about what happens. there's an awful lot of emphasis on the media, but also ordinary citizens and members of congress to live up to their oath of office, to remember they're serving the people of the united states, their constituents, and the constitution, not one person. and what i mean by regular citizens of the united states, there's an awful lot of people, i'm an immigrant, i've been in the u.s. since 1989. there are many people like me who serve in the government who came here for a better life, for an opportunity, who love this country. we want to serve the country. people serve in the military, in the government, and we can all take action. we can go out there and tell the truth about what's happening, spread the alarm, get people to

wake up, to realize we're throwing our democracy essentially down the drain. we've just heard ultimate revelations about facebook on capitol hill. you've been covering all of this as well where the whistle-blower from facebook says there's something wrong with facebook's algorithm. well, there's something wrong with our political algorithm. both of our parties are focused on division, whether you're red or blue. they're not focusing on their job, which is to try to serve the american people, push through bills, and actually try to get a grip on renewing our democratic system. we have to speak up. write to your congressman or congresswoman. people taking action in their communities, to create collective action for positive change. >> i've been so eager to talk to you. we have to leave it there for

now. i hope you'll come back and talk because your expertise is so wonderful for all of us to hear about russia and putin in particular. thank you so much. >> thanks, andrea. >> the book is "there's nothing for you here," a terrific read indeed. coming up next, stranded. exclusive reporting how the government dropped the ball on haitian immigrants. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪

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new revelations about that massive surge of haitian migrants at the texas border last month. we report that u.s. officials knew as far back as july that the migrants were headed north, but officials were caught flat-footed because the intelligence wouldn't share there was an internal dispute with the progressive voices inside the administration arguing against deporting them when they arrived. joining us now is julia ai ainsley covering justice and homeland security departments and deputy director of the aclu's immigrants rights project. julia, just why were officials so unprepared? >> it's interesting. i mean, they knew as far back as july that there were thousands who were amassing, haitians who had gone to south america and central america with plans to move north. and some of that was picked up in intelligence but talks to wasn't shared between i.c.e. and cvp, the intelligence community. they weren't putting it together in a way you might expect,

especially predicting how rapidly we would see it get to 28,000 people under that one bridge in del rio. there was an internal debate going on at the time over whether or not to ramp up deportations of haitians inside the united states to haiti. some argued it could deteriorate future migration, deteriorate those people from coming here. others thought it would be inhumane given the assassination of the president there and then very quickly they did decide to halt the deportations after that august 14th earthquake. some now are looking back thinking maybe that wasn't the right decision. of course others have said, look, this was a humanitarian issue, we didn't want to send them back, but in the end, andrea, they have sent 7,000 haitians back to haiti from countries that many of them haven't called haiti home in years. >> and, of course, the second earthquake in haiti that also took place. you and the aclu have been fighting against deportations, specifically the continuation of title 42, the trump policy to

expel migrants because of covid. a senior official, harold ko was blasted after resigning last week. >> we said it was inhumane from the beginning and that's why we've sued. obviously the biden administration doesn't need a court to tell them to stop the policy. i think what's happening is it's clear that those who are pushing an inhumane policy within the white house are winning that debate. so i think it's time for us to really switch to focusing on top public health officials at the cdc, dr. fauci, because i'm astonished that they are giving political cover to the biden administration. as public health officials, i can't imagine they want to see them being pushed literally into the hands of cartels. i would be shocked if they want

to sit down for a deposition. there's no way to safely process these asylum seekers. cdc is signing off on people going to concerts everywhere but saying we can't possibly safely process these asylum seekers? there's no way the top public officials think that, and i think history is not going to judge them kindly for having given the biden administration political cover for this. >> julia, we've only got 30 seconds, but this is a big question for the white house, for the cdc, for all the health officials, the dhs. >> that's right. they have the cover of this court, but in the end, covid will end and they'll have to decide how they're going to lift these restrictions in a way they can be prepared if he border, because asylum is an international right. >> thank you both so much. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show online, on facebook, and twitter. chuck todd with "mtp daily" starts right now.

it's thursday. new testimony, new revelations, and new documents as congressional probes take on the biggest threats to our democracy. the former president's lies about our elections and the amplification of those lies. plus, disaster averted temporarily. schumer and mcconnell finitely reach an agreement to avoid a catastrophic default on u.s. debt, but not for long. doesn't buy a lot of time. what will congress and the white house do next? we'll find out soon enough. and the latest legal fallout from texas after a federal judge blocks enforcement of the state's new -- essentially a ban on abortion. but the ruling has been appealed and in many ways , this fight is probably just getting started.