slavery is not an easy topic to tackle for black a or for white. "civil war or who do we think we are" premieres tomorrow here on msnbc. that wraps up the hour for me, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. i'll be back here tomorrow 3:00 p.m. eastern. reverend al sharpton and "politicsnation" starts right now. good evening and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, best laid plans. at the beginning of the year, the inauguration of president joe biden and vice president kamala harris along with the democratic house and senate made it appear that change was on the way in washington after four long years of political chaos under trump.

but as the holiday season approaches, few of the priorities that i and millions voted for have been passed into law by this congress. to be fair, we did get billions in desperately needed pandemic relief funds. however, the president's infrastructure plan that has dominated his 2020 remains dead locked, not just due to the obstructionism of republicans, but also as a result of the infighting within the democratic party. joe manchin and kyrsten sinema continue to chop at key provisions while progressives threaten to walk away from the table if they don't get most of what they are asking for. meanwhile, senate republicans are blocking the one bill that nearly all democrats can agree on, the freedom to vote act, one of the last shots by democrats

this year to shore up voter protections ahead of the coming midterm elections. to his credit, the president has been more present than ever promoting his agenda on the hill as analysis suggests last year's census may have undercounted black americans. one more reason that the vote has to be protected. meanwhile, president obama is stumping today for a virginia gubernatorial candidate, terry mcauliffe, who joins us shortly to talk about the hotly contested race that is turning out to be much closer than democrats had expected. yet another political development in this arduous year that hasn't gone according to script. all that on "politicsnation." but first, joining me now is congresswoman brenda lawrence, democrat of michigan.

congresswoman, first of all, thank you for joining us tonight. two stories from the hill this week, the continued reduction of the president's infrastructure plan by negotiations, some of which generated from within his own party, and senators manchin and sinema, and then the blocking of the freedom to vote act by republicans this week, expected to do the same next week on the voting rights bill named for john lewis. but then the president's comments this weekend in favor of altering the filibuster this weekend appears to have offered at least some hope to progressives and at least those that want to see the rule reform. were you among them, congresswoman? >> i was so disappointed. often i'm surprised but disappointed that the republicans refuse to take up protection law that -- to debate

it, to discuss the merits, to iron out any of the perceived differences. but we cannot. i walk in the shadows, as you do, reverend, of giants, john lewis. i walk in the shadows of martin luther king, my fore fathers who fought for the right to vote. and i will not forget a moment on the floor when john lewis looked me in the eye and he said why do you think they fight so hard to keep us from voting? because they know our power, our voice, our seat at the table rests within our power to vote, our right to vote. so i am willing to take -- bring out all the tools from the tool kit to make this happen. it's something we need fundamentally for our democracy, reverend. if you don't have fair and equal

voting, you don't have a democracy because that's what holds our democracy together, it's our right -- >> let me emphasis something you pointed out. the vote this week not one republican would vote for, the freedom to vote act, was just a procedural vote to lead toward debating the bill. it wasn't even they voted down the bill. they voted not to even debate or discuss the bill. >> that's the part to me that was just heartbreaking. you know, they still had to vote on the bill, but this is the environment we're in, the environment of block, deny, and to stop. and for some reason, the republican party takes pride in how do we obstruct, how do we stop, how do we prevent the rights and freedoms in this country from proceeding? i'm in favor of bringing out all the tools, including the

filibuster. >> now, black democratic voters put joe biden back in the white house, yet we've had a few guests and polls indicating that our communities are losing patience with this administration, fairly or unfairly, on a number of priorities. and as we watch this infrastructure mega bill stall, voting rights blocked again in the senate where policing reform has essentially died. i cannot say that i don't understand, but where do you as a member of congress come down? what duty people in your detroit district when they ask if their faith was and has been rewarded? >> i feel and i know that the democratic party -- we've got to do a better job with messaging. we are passing -- we passed the voting rights bill. we're the ones who put the george floyd policing bill into

the senate for a vote. and the republicans and, unfortunately, members of our own party in the senate are doing what they did for four years, and that was to dig the graveyard so it won't move forward. but when you look at what the democratic party has advanced, who has been the persons and the groups messaging on we need to fix our criminal justice -- democrats. who needs to make sure that we put money into the economy to bring people up from suffering and dying due to the pandemic? democrats. who are the ones that are right now fighting to make sure that child care and prescription drugs and that paid for our essential care workers, disrespectful salary that they're getting now. it's the democrats. so as we continue to push, i tell people in the field, if we did not have this strong

democratic presence to pass bills into the senate to try to get it to the president's desk, he has not denied a single bill that has come to his desk that will benefit the black community. he is now realizing that this is not the senate that it was when he was there, and that he now has to work and use different strategies. that's been the growth that, thank god, i've seen because the days when you would sit down with your colleague on the other side and have a cup of coffee and work through it is not our reality today. and so we're -- >> i think, congresswoman, that's a point, this whole reaching and the rhetoric of bipartisanship, it seems like the republicans -- i mean, when you got no republican, not one, not even a single moderate republican saying let's debate voting rights, the rhetoric of bipartisanship just doesn't seem

not only appropriate, it seems almost like you are in a delusional state in where we are today in washington if you believe that we're dealing with the senate of the past. >> and it's critical. we are at that point where the new deal, the civil rights movement where we can make transformational change in this country, and we voted for a president that would bring that change. we voted for a house and we thought we were voting for a senate that would bring this forward. and if we miss this moment, reverend, i don't know when it's going to come before us again. and so the president has gotten that push from the congress. i can tell you i'm using the black caucus to say we've got to get this done. we here. the black caucus here. what have you done? and we have to remind him we passed it out of the house. we are doing everything we can

to get the george floyd justice and policing act. we're fighting for the voting rights act. to the senate's credit, they did come up with a modified version of the john lewis, but that didn't go anywhere. >> and that's the problem. i think you're right. but one thing we can't do is stop because we're talking about our essential right to vote, our essential existence depends on it in many areas. i thank you for joining me, starting us this evening, representative lawrence. joining me now is democratic strategist juanita tolliver and republican strategist susan del percio. both are msnbc political analysts. susan, it was a busy week for the congressional investigation into the january 6th insurrection. thursday the house passed a referral to hold trump ally steve bannon in criminal

contempt for refusing to cooperate with the probe. late yesterday cnn reported that former doj geoffrey clark looks to be the first trump administration official to comply with the subpoena request and will face questions next friday about his role in pushing trump's baseless election fraud claims. do you feel the select committee is making progress in exposing what really happened in those chaotic final days of the trump presidency? >> i do believe they are making progress. they probably are doing it and have a lot more information that has been shared with the rest of us. but here's the thing, rev. i think that the american people must see action taken against steve bannon if he refuses to testify. we needed as a nation to know we are a country of laws and that

when the congress subpoenas you, it matters. now, when you look at mr. clark, i think because he's an attorney, he certainly does not want a criminal contempt charge against him, so that may be one of the reasons why he's compelled to testify. but it is very important that the work go forward and move it at somewhat at a decent pace so people know they're making progress. >> as congress tries to get to the bottom of former president trump's assault on democracy, he chose this week to announce a new social media, the platform truth social is being billed as a bastion for free speech, even though users will be barred from criticizing it. but the real issue seems to be that trump stands to make billions as his supporters buy up shares of the stock behind this risky venture to compete against tech giants like facebook and twitter.

juanita, what is your take on this latest move by trump? >> look, trump loves any type of business scheme that will put money in his pockets. like, that is his motivation for this because we know that, sure, he's missing having that social media interface. he's been banned from twitter and facebook, and so this is a response to that. but like you said, rev, the intention here is not to create a reasonable platform. the intention here is to take more money from his supporters, which is not atypical for trump and his people to do. think about the fund they started to build the wall that steve bannon took money from and others took money from. >> you're talking about the wall that he said mexico was going to pay for? >> apparently, rev. the wall that still does not exist, right? this is just another shady business scheme who a lot of people consider to be a criminal for a number of years.

>> the far right is taking aim at america's schools, targeting students, teachers, and school boards with death threats and disruptions as they fight against mask and vaccine mandates, as well as their own made-up conspiracy theories about how race is being taught in classrooms. as we will discuss later in this program, all this commotion is having real political impact. what are republicans really up to here and how should democrats respond to it? >> well, the republicans have nothing else to do except use dog whistles to get to their base and try to appeal to donald trump's core constituents who he does turn out. because at the end of the day, when you look at 2022, the midterm elections, it's all about turnout. is it vile? yes. is it wrong? yes. but do the democrats have to push back and maybe get as ugly

or use tactics that are not false necessarily, but are strong and pushing back and have ridiculous -- and this goes beyond just another, you know, regular dog whistle. this goes into the fabric of who we are as a nation. and the republicans will not let up. i will tell you that right now. >> juanita, the controversial texas abortion ban will be taken up by the supreme court in just over a week. the high court has -- let me say sped up its time line for the case, scheduling arguments for november 1st. however, the restrictions will remain the law of the land in texas while we are waiting. given the conservative makeup of the court, what are you expecting to happen here? >> i expect them to sadly remove a basic right to access health

care and abortion care for women in this country. think back to when they just remained silent when sb 8 passed. it was just a moment where, as justice sotomayor wrote in her dissent there, ignored years of precedent to let this law stand. the gop stacked the court for this explicit moment and what other constitutional rights are they going to come for next? i expect them to take away this right to abortion care. what other foundational rights come after that? >> thank you, juanita and susan. still plenty to talk about here on "politicsnation," including the right-wing political campaign to sow chaos in public education all over america. it has even become a potent issue in that very important virginia governors race. some have called it a modern-day

lynching, the trial in the killing of ahmaud arbery gets under way. we'll have the latest. , but my colleague richard lui with today's top news stories. richard? >> rev, a good saturday to you. some stories we're watching for you this hour. investigators say actor alec baldwin was told the prop gun he was using was safe before a fatal shooting on a movie set in new mexico thursday. that's according to new reporting from "the new york times." the "l.a. times" first reported there were at least two accidental gun discharges before this incident. and several crew members had quit over safety concerns just hours before the cinematographer was killed. police say the investigation is ongoing. the cdc says it may soon update its guidance for what it means to be fully vaccinated against covid-19 as more americans become eligible for booster shots. boosters for five years, moderna, and j&j have all been approved by the fda and cdc. the cdc's director says anyone who qualifies for an additional

jab should get one. and the biden administration has postponed the release of thousands of documents related to the 1963 assassination of president john f. kennedy. due to delays caused by the pandemic. congress ordered all materials related to kept's death be made public back in 1992, but the release of some items has been held up due to security and privacy concerns. we got more "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton right after this break.

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for this week's gotcha, i'm taking aim at the folks endangering our children's education by spreading dangerously false information on what they call critical race theory. and while so many of these fearmongerers don't even define critical race theory, i will once again remind them that it

isn't anything nefarious or inaccurate. it is simply the study of the way historical racism impacts modern laws and modern life and is taught primarily in specialized law school classes and not public american elementary, middle, or high schools. but that hasn't stopped groups from trying to classify all leavens about race, gender, or lgbtq+ issues somehow unfit for schools. but when you see these concerned parents at your school board meetings or paraded around certain cable news shows, take a second look. a recent analysis by the nonprofit group media matters showed that many of those advocates being portrayed as grassroots activists are really astro turf operatives, posing as

concerned parents without highlighting their day job as republican strategists. while it might be tempting to chock this up to another right-wing culture war, these conservative operatives storming school board meetings are dead set on imposing a reactionary and factually inaccurate curriculum in your child's schoolhouses. a teacher was formally reprimanded for having a book on a anti-racism available to students in a texas classroom. and it didn't stop there. here's what one administrator told teachers about making sure books were in compliance with texas law. >> make sure that if you have a book on the holocaust, that you have one that has an opposing -- that has other perspectives. >> how do you oppose the holocaust? >> believe me, that's come up.

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we are just ten days away from election night 2021, and one of the most watched races in the country is for governor of virginia. the latest numbers showing republican glenn youngkin virtually tied with democrat terry mcauliffe. today president obama is on the ground working to get the vote out for former governor mcauliffe, and he joins me now. former governor of virginia and current democratic gubernatorial candidate terry mcauliffe. governor mcauliffe, glad to have you on. >> great to be with you. thank you. honored to be with you. >> we did invite your rival, glenn youngkin, but he declined. >> no surprise. >> no surprise, you say. just a few hours ago, former president obama was out on the campaign trail with you. here he's talking about your opponent. take a listen.

>> you can't run ads telling me you're a regular old hoops-playing, dish-washing, fleece-wearing guy, but quietly cultivate support from those who seek to tear down our democracy. either he actually believes in the same conspiracy theories that resulted in a mob, or he doesn't believe it, but he's willing to go along with it to say or do anything to get elected. and maybe that's worse. >> what does it mean to you to have him campaigning for you in this race and then president biden coming next week for you? >> i'm so appreciative. dr. jill biden was in, stacey abrams was in. she'll be back tomorrow with an

event with dave matthews. i think the most important thing you heard from president obama today was, i know people are tired, but you know what? the stakes are too great. we have come too far. and you think of the people who have come before us. they were tired, but they never gave up. and everything is on the line for us here in virginia. i'm running against a guy who was adamantly against a woman's right to choose. he has said over and over the single biggest issue facing virginia is election integrity. no, it's not. it's jobs, education, and health care. i couldn't agree with you more. he has from day one talked about critical race theory. critical race theory is not taught, nor has it ever been taught in virginia. it is a racist dog whistle to get parents fighting parents, parents fighting teachers, and using our children as a

political pawn. i think president obama today did a great job letting folks know what the stakes truly are here in virginia. >> i want to bring up that 18% of virginia's population is black, 7% asian, and 11% latino. recently president biden was dealt a blow in approval ratings with many black and latino and female voters, souring on the president. in order for any democrat to win in virginia, they must win the black vote. but the president's support is wavering. do you think you can encourage black voters in virginia to turn out and vote for you? maybe fear of trump will motivate voters, maybe not. certainly you've been governor before. you've shown a balance in leadership in many of those issues. i remember when i ran in 2000, you were chair of the party and you dealt with those candidates on the left and the right. you always were fair. do you think this will motivate

black voters to come out despite what's going on in the national polls? >> when i was cherokees we had the debates, many said you should not have been on the debate stage, and i said of course reverend sharpton is going to be on the debate stage and we overruled everybody and it was the right thing to do. i'm here in virginia state university right now. we got a big game. i'm here at the football game down here. i'm getting mobbed by people because, as you know, rev, i restored more felon rights than any governor in america. i erased a 1902 racist jim crow that had been in place since 1902. i found it outrageous. they sued, took me to supreme court, sued me for kentucky court. but today 277,000 people can vote. i banned the confederate flag from license plates. i reduced the juvenile detention policy by two-thirds. so the black community has always known i've fought hard,

lifted people up, tried to right the wrongs of the past. i put a record $1 billion into education. every child should get a quality education. and that's why it drives me crazy with glenn youngkin. he's just putting out these racist dog whistles and people aren't buying it. they're smarter than that here in the commonwealth of virginia. but trump has endorsed him six times and youngkin is running down the democracy saying elections are not fair. he said the other day let's re-count the virginia voting machines. are you nuts? we're not going to re-count our machines. we didn't have problems. people are hurting because of covid. 44% of african-american businesses have closed. talk to me about child care or about keeping our kids in schools and i'll just say this, rev. he's an anti-vaxxer. he literally says to people on right-wing radio, if you don't want to take it, don't take it

or, quote, he just said there are many good reasons not to be vaccinated. he got caught telling students just fill out an exemption. this is life-threatening. we just lost two 11-year-old children last week to covid. >> isn't it so if he were to be successful it would set the stage for a trump when we come back? and you mentioned critical race theory. conservative republicans, specifically those who identify as part of former president trump's base, have been using overblown fears of critical race theory being taught in schools is a way to energize voter turnout and it would be a rallying cry to flip blue states red. your opponent, glenn youngkin, has been using this tactic to strike fear into parents in your state when it's not true that it's being done. seizing on this concern with what has been dubbed as parent

rallies, framing his campaign as a way to championing the rights of parents to have a say in the schools to educate their children. but it has nothing to do with that. what do you make of this, governor mcauliffe? >> yeah. so first of all, parents are very involved. i'm a parent of five children, dorothy and i, we are very involved. you have school boards and you elect school boards. they make the decisions on curriculum and things like that. the goal is, no matter the color of one's skin or who they pray to, everybody deserves a world-class education. but he -- you're right. i'd like to know who these funding groups are putting the money behind this. this is -- we dealt with ms 13, former candidate when we ran for governor in '17. they used ms 13. this is the new ms 13. it didn't work before, it's not going to work now, but it bortz me because it's blatant racism. it is literally a racist dog whistle, and you have parents -- he's got them fired up about

issues that don't exist. we have in virginia the fourth best k-12 in america. we have the number one higher ed system in america. do we have problems with education? we got to raise teacher pay. i got 40,000 at-risk 3 and 4-year-olds. let's get everybody broadband. why are we dividing parents and teachers when we ought to be unifying everybody. >> i'm going to have to leave it there. we're out of time. former virginia governor, terry mcauliffe, former dnc chair. your rival glenn youngkin still stands. coming up, it's been called modern-day lynching. now nearly two years since ahmaud arbery was chased down and killed in georgia and his family is still waiting for answers. and justice. that's next. be right back. be right back.

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the world's attention, black america was transported in the worst way by the killing of ahmaud arbery, shot in georgia in february 2020 after a pursuit by three civilians with law enforcement ties which have come tonight after a state indictment of a former prosecutor in the case last month. and now jury selection is under

way after the first week of the murder trial. reports of some prospective jurors going into it with questions about what happened and others calling arbery's death a lynching. joining me now, civil rights attorney lee merit, representing the family of ahmaud arbery, and wander cooper-jones, ahmaud arbery's mother. ms. cooper jones, we appreciate you being with us. as always, i want to extend by condolences again to you and the family. attorney merit, i'm always happy tows in this fight. i want to start with you. you've been in many cases. we've worked together. and you're running a vigorous campaign for texas attorney general. we'll deal with that on another day. we certainly want to focus on that. i want to ask you about the jury selection under way in this trial of three men accused of killing mr. arbery last year.

i read sections of a prospective juror's interview in the "atlanta journal-constitution" where some saw what happened as racist mob justice. others said they had questions about what happened. now, being a veteran of these cases, what are your thoughts when you hear that? >> my biggest concern is that virtually everyone in glenn county has taken a side in the case. they've expressed an opinion. and the fact that you are reading about jurors who are laying that out, you know, wanda and said in that courtroom every day, everyone comes in there already having an established opinion. you generally want your jurors to be clean slates. that's going to be difficult in this case in this county. >> now, ms. cooper-jones, i know a superior court judge said the defense attorneys for the family cannot use your son's medical mental health records as

evidence in the trial now under way. it's a defense that we've seen countless times when murder victims of color were involved. and i read that prospective jurors got access to your son's health records this week despite the judge's order. now, regardless, knowing that these kinds of tactics are in play and the fact that you have championed from day one for your son -- i remember you were part of our big march in washington last august. i have a photo of you and some of the other mothers standing there. you've really, really been a champion for your son. how are you holding up with all of this now coming to jury selection and trial? how are you preparing for what may be said about your son? >> thanks for having me. i felt thankful that we reached today that we finally got to pick a jury for the suspects who killed ahmaud. the days are long. the days are very tiring.

but i know this is something that we will have to do in order to get justice for ahmaud. >> now, i want to make sure we cover this, lee. last month's indictment of the initial prosecutor in the investigation of mr. auburn's death, georgia's attorney general with charges of misuse of public office due to the suggestion that the prosecutor's personal and professional relationship with the mcmichael family led her to undermine that investigation. can you tell us where that stands? >> well, jackie johnson has been indicted and arrested for violating her duty of office. i want to thank you even before that video coming out, you had wanda on the show to discuss what happened to her son. but she's been telling us about how she was abused by the prosecutor's office, how jackie

johnson and george barn hill worked together to keep her in the dark about what happened to her son. we saw a conservative republican attorney general in the state of georgia bring criminal charges against a prosecutor, something i don't think ben or i or you have ever seen in a situation like this. so that was really groundbreaking. >> let me ask you, wanda, and certainly you did come on the show. we talked about this before the tape. and now that we come down to where we are now, are you hopeful? are you prayerful? many people come in and out of situations only when there's glaring lights but you have a lot of activists on the ground with you and lee staying with you, even though he's running for attorney general in texas. how have you held up, and what are your feelings as a mother who in the beginning did not have a whole lot of support

other than lee and ben and others that would stand by you this long? >> i'm very thankful that god landed attorney merit and attorney ben crump to our assistance. the case was really bad shape in the very beginning, and i often prayed for someone to come and help. these two gentlemen stepped up and they helped. as a mom, i do feel very, very hopeful that we will get justice for ahmaud. i'm just praying that we get the right people in the right place to make the right decision. >> all right. wanda cooper, and attorney merit, thank you both. in fact, i'll be in georgia tomorrow, sunday, preaching at st. paul cme church at savannah state university. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. at t-mobile, trade-in value is 'locked in' forever. we can always have a new iphone, forever?

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as the united states senate failed to pass the procedural rule to move forward to debate the freedom to vote act, it showed that despite all, joe manchin could not come up with one republican to move forward on the debate on border right protections. we expect the same with the john lewis bill this week. so we have a march that we have advocated must go on. in a town hall this week president joe biden did not rule out that he would support a change in the filibuster or at least a carveout, at least on that and other issues. we got him to go from no to changing anything on a filibuster, to a maybe.

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that does it for me. thanks for watching. i will see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 eastern for another hour of politics nation. >> hello, everyone. we start with signs of hope on capitol hill. it appears democrats are inching closer on how to pass president

biden's key policies. they said they aim to vote on both the infrastructure bill and the build back better plan sometime next week. nancy pelosi says 90% of everything is agreed to. >> if it takes an extra week, to me that's worth it, but we are getting much closer. i think that's what the american people need to know. at the end of the day, even some of the things you had on the chopping block i don't think are actually gone. we are still working hard to make sure there is some form of medicare expansion. not everything we would do if we had everybody with us, but we need 50 votes