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look guard to seeing you down in princeton, give you some origin black. >> we look forward to that. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. hi there, i'm stephanie ruhle live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. it's wednesday, october 27, and we've got the facts you need to know this morning, so let's get smarter. as we come on air, all eyes on capitol hill. lawmakers signaling they are close to getting a deal done on the spending bill as democrats release a new plan to pay for it. a massive move taking place in the fight against covid as well. an fda panel giving the official green light to the pfizer vaccine for children. the first step in getting shots in arms for 28 million across the country. plus, in new mexico, we'll hear from officials for the first time since that deadly movie set shooting amid a new report that criminal charges
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have not been ruled out. and as facebook deals with a major fallout, other social media companies grilled on capitol hill about their plans to keep children safe. the senator who led that hearing will be here to discuss. but we have got to start this morning in washington where today was supposed to be the day lawmakers would vote on that hard infrastructure bill, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. and despite all the optimism over the human infrastructure bill, it doesn't look like a deal there is coming in the imminent future, either. bottom line, democrats still have not agreed to what's in the bill or how much it's going to cost. but we do have new insight into how they want to pay for it, courtesy of two new tax plans coming out in just the last 24 hours. i want to bring in to discuss, nbc chief white house correspondent peter alexander, correspondent ali vitale, andly
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he's been talking to joe manchin and krysten sinema. >> reporter: 24 hours from the time they're going to vote on these proposals, they're still talking about the other one that is linked hand in hand with the bipartisan infrastructure bill. you and i have been using phrases like wealth tax. that's not one we're going to use today, because as you're saying, that's not what lawmakers are trying to do here. we're looking at two tax proposals that came out overnight. we're looking at a billionaire income tax which attaches both assets and income, and then we're also looking at a corporate minimum tax. they're going to touch roughly a thousand people or about 200 corporations across country. specifically on that billionaire income tax, you're looking at a billion or more in assets or 100
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or more in income over three consecutive years. those are the people who would be taxed under that plan. we should say it's not necessarily clear that people like senator joe manchin whose office i'm standing outside actually support this way of paying for the bill. on the other side of it, that minimum corporate tax, that would be for companies making a billion or more in profits reported to shareholders. they would face a minimum of a 15% tax. we know krysten sinema has come out in favor of that. remember, the reason they're doing this and because she said she did not want to see taxes rise on corporations or the wealthy, and this is in contrast with taxing people making 5 or $10 million. so still wondering how to pay for it, and you're right, they're still haggling over the price tag. >> a 15% tax on corporations is not raising taxes.
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that's actually lower than the tax rate, but what it does is solve for the fact that you have all sorts of major companies that end up paying zero, and the fact that they have added that billionaires that have over a billion dollars in assets will have to pay is the difference. those mega, mega rich people do not pay themselves that much in salary but they certainly have that much in assets. peter, there is mass support for these kinds of plans, especially from this white house who always said they want companies to pay their fair share and the richest americans who get so many loopholes on their side to pay their fair share. however, it takes time to hammer out the language on this kind of stuff, especially in the world of loopholes and lobbyists that you live in. where does the white house stand especially knowing they want to get this thing done anywhere near the president getting on a plane to rome? >> steph, just to underline the
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point you were making, that billionaire tax would only account for about 200 people in this country right now. president biden is supposed to be leaving the white house, heading overseas for a series of summits on a variety of issues, most notably climate change, which is why they want the democrats in action before they leave. psaki has pushed back and said basically those foreign leaders are sophisticated, they understand the complex negotiations here, and they see the actions that the u.s. is taking right now. but the white house does recognize the need to try to get something, even at framework before departure. a white house official in the last hour telling me they are keeping the door open to more meetings here at the white house with lawmakers today, even a possible presidential trip to the hill today. they say that hour by hour they are making those decisions right now. the bottom line is there is a real urgency, a recognition that
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they want to try to make as much progress as they can, and they say it's not they say it happen before they depart, saying air force one has phones as well. it's still not clear what's in all of this and what the president's red lines may be. yesterday jen psaki, the press secretary, did not indicate that paid parental leave would be in the final package. the president had proposed 12 weeks of that initially. steph? >> cal, take us to arizona, because last week you were in west virginia talking to west virginia voters. while the state may be the lowest in health care, infrastructure, education, west virginians know joe manchin. they know him as the senator of arizona. what did people say did krysten sinema? those in the western media, she never talks to us. does she talk to them?
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>> reporter: no. and that's the biggest frustration, i think, when you talk to people on the ground. it's also a frustration for democrats who voted against her on what she's doing. she's voting behind closed doors, and while people may know krysten sinema because she was a politician here for a long, long time, she has changed. she's a member of the green party, and they certainly want to see west virginia as a liberal state. they voted for her two years ago. the first person is someone who voted against krysten sinema two years ago, the last two are democrats who voted against her. take a listen. >> she's being independent in her negotiations and what she's doing. she's not falling to the pressure of the democratic party. >> i think she's tilted too far to the right for my tastes.
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i don't know that that's why people voted for her. >> i hope she doesn't, like, really screw things up, because that's the way it feels. >> reporter: it is a fascinating game that she's playing, and i'm not sure people here really understand what the payoff could be. i'll echo what peter sort of laid out, which is we really still don't know what is in this bill. we heard that a lot of west virginia, we're hearing it here. a lot of people here talking about climate is very interested for that making it into the reconciliation bill, stephanie. >> cal, ali, peter, thank you very much. i want to dig deeper into these negotiations, and who better to speak to than one of those who got a shoutout from president biden earlier this week. i want to -- see, we're not even going to hear it.
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it was president biden giving josh gottheimer a shot at these negotiations from the beginning. let's bring him in, josh gottheimer. you got a lot of people in your state saying taxes might make them leave the state. 100 billionaires will still be billionaires if they have to pay this tax. how does that fly in your state? >> thank you for having me. one of the key parts of this is the revenue. as is reported, a lot of these questions are still up in the air on how much that will be part of this package, because for me, that's bringing tax relief to my district, and as you say, there are other provisions not even written yet in a way that we can look at and we're trying to go through every
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part and understand how this could impact districts like mine. what is important is that we get both of these packages done, that we get a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill before the president goes away and that we have an agreement. >> none of that makes sense. if you haven't seen the language, if it hasn't been ironed out, how on earth is that going to happen, and at the same time you're saying we have to vote on that this week? >> i'm sorry, because the bipartisan infrastructure bill which passed out of the senate was 69 votes, 16 democrats, 19 republicans in the middle of august is waiting for us to act. that's $2 million a year, talking about building the roads, bridges and rails. the other package as you're talking about is making sure we can get to an agreement on that, and that's obviously what we're all working around the clock trying to do, which includes what you talked about earlier, the revenue side of that, and that includes climate change and child care and reinstating the
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sustainable tax deduction and all these other provisions and that's what we're trying to get an agreement on. if we can get to an agreement on that framework, we can vote according to some of the folks in my party who are holding off a vote on the infrastructure package, the roads and bridges, they're holding it up until we get that agreement. that's what this is all about. >> so when? because let's be honest, congressman. for the last two months you've been saying, let's vote on the first part and then we'll work on the second. none of that has changed. when are you going to vote on hard infrastructure, when are you going to vote on human infrastructure? >> you're right, stephanie, about the frustration of not voting. common sense would dictate we would vote on this bipartisan bill. we have an election coming up on november 21st. it literally runs out unless we have this vote or something temporarily. all of that is a huge pressure point that we should vote on
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this. people back home are saying to me, why don't you just vote on this infrastructure bill that's sitting in congress waiting for you? somehow it's being held hostage by this other bill, so i'm hoping this week, stephanie, the speaker and others really want to vote this week. we need to hit the president, though, and say, we want to vote this week on infrastructure. he's got to say, i feel good enough about where we are in the good faith negotiations on that reconciliation package, on the social infrastructure package, and once he feels good enough, we can get that momentum and get a vote. but as you said, time is running out here. >> one thing that jumps out at me is we could make $200 million by taxing 200 companies and less americans. what does that say about this
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top and bottom right now? >> some of our companies who do business here and take advantage of our great law enforcement and our infrastructure don't actually pay anything at the end of the day, and that doesn't make any sense. everybody here pays something, and the idea that they're not even paying the minimum corporate rate makes no sense. so the 15% just adds up. when people talk to me about it, that just is common sense. i think we've got to figure out a way with all this to make sure we pay for whatever we put up, whatever we propose. because we can't just keep borrowing on the backs of our kids and grandkids, and i hear that all the time. we've got to be smart about this, and people are really worried about our economy. figuring out those provisions, stephanie, we're tough, as you said before. the details really matter. you want to make sure you don't craft something that suddenly a bunch of lawyers figure out how to work around it. that doesn't work, either. this is what we're working on around the clock, but it doesn't make any sense to me as we're in good faith negotiations, which we've been across the spectrum
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for weeks, that we would hold up a vote on our bipartisan infrastructure package, which is the roads, the bridges, climate resiliency, getting lead out of our water. why would you hold off millions of jobs a year while we're negotiating the other package? that's really what's left a lot of us scratching our head, and quite frankly, back home, people are saying to me, why are you holding this up? many of us are asking our leadership, please, just bring this thing for a vote. let's get this done across the finish line. let's gate win for the country here. >> and many of those same hard-working americans are saying, 15%? lawyers and lobbyists be damned. if companies have to pay just 15%, that's still a whole lot less what you and i pay every day, every year. congressman gottheimer, thank you. good to see you. trying to get kids across this country vaccinated.
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recommending a covid vaccine for children ages 5 to 11. i want to bring in dr. kavita patel. >> they need to okay that because they then need to hand that off to the cdc advisory panel by next wednesday. after that, we could see shots in arms, including your children, by the next week. definitely by november 8, we should see clinics and pharmacies have this available. >> we've heard people say they're not sure they want to do it yet. here's what i want to know. for the vaccines currently required for kids, all the ones they have to get before they go to school, what was the time
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period from approval to mandating it? >> yeah. so across the board it was different kind of shades of approval. the most common one, diphtheria, tetanus, were all mandated before the approval. probably a virus -- probably a vaccine was developed in the '50s with a kind of safe and effective vaccine in 1955 just several yeerds after literally thousands of children had been stricken, handicapped, even died with polio. so we had just a short amount of time, about two years. i think what's unusual about this time period is we now have this emergency use authorization, so we have a public health emergency, and on top of that, we have an emergency authorization which is a new statutory ability since 2004. so your question is the right one, but it's generally a little longer until we see mandates,
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but nothing compares to what we're seeing now. 6.2 million children who have had covid, we haven't seen anything like that in the united states, even polio, which is the closest. >> you are my trusted advisor in my life. i have an eight-year-old. should i vaccinate my daughter next week? >> i'm in the same position. i have a seven-year-old son. i looked at the data. to me the benefits outweigh the risk. we still don't know about issues related to long covid. data was 7% to 9% showing symptoms much later. i think having covid-19 could pose long-term risks and the benefits of this vaccine, billions of people have had one and i hope the cdc has a clear message and the safety and the efficacy of this vaccine, but
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news conference nearly one week after that tragic shooting that killed one person on a movie set. it comes as the movie's producers brought in lawyers to investigate as federal workplace investigators started talking with the crew. the ap points out that alec baldwin the actor probably won't be held liable for what happened, but baldwin the producer? well, he might be. plus the "new york times" reporting that the santa fe district attorney is not ruling out charges. miguel, what are we going to find out at this press conference? we've been waiting. >> reporter: we've been waiting as well. it's possible they could file criminal charges. we're just not sure the direction they're going to go. we're still trying to figure out if live ammunition was used in this shooting or if it was a blank. all of this comes as msnbc news
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is seeing behind the scenes of what was on set, including the handling of weapons. >> reporter: this haunting image post bid a crew member to social media shows the church where the fatal shooting took place. cinematographer halyna hutchins standing next to alec baldwin. nbc news reporting authorities have not yet characterized the case as a death investigation or criminal investigation. >> we need some help. our director and camera man have been shot. >> reporter: after baldwin was handed a gun he was told was safe to use, hutchins was shot
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in the chest. there are pictures of hanna gutierrez reed handing guns to baldwin without tragedy. at one point baldwin takes the gun out of its holster, telling the crew he's ready to film. another actor hands him a long gun which some say raises red flags. >> there are two people who hand out the guns. me and the armorer. that's it. nobody else touches the guns. >> halls grabbed one of three prop guns that was set up by the armorer off a cart left outside the structure due to covid-19 restrictions. legal experts say halls and gutierrez reed could face criminal charges. what's unclear is if the fatal
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shot was a blank or a real bullet that should have never been on the set. >> if a real live bullet was in that gun, it's because someone made a terrible mistake and they'll have to pay criminally for it. >> reporter: this morning a call to stop using real firearms on all movie sets moving forward. authorities are getting closer to laying out what went wrong. now the question, should someone face charges over what happened on this set? and stephanie, we should also point out in some of that behind-the-scenes video that we saw, it's clear safety procedures were being followed. just about everybody off camera was masked due to covid protocols, but we weren't able to see the handling and inspection of those weapons. that may have happened off camera before those cameras started rolling, stephanie. >> that press conference will be taking place at 12:00 p.m. eastern. we'll be broadcasting that, so stick around. you'll want to hear all the
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wrote the book on facebook. she's also author of the book "inside terror," sheera frenkel. >> it was interesting to see tiktok and all these companies try to appear different even though they are quite similar. i think the goal is to not be tarnished about the news issue facebook is in, but they know all the lies impact them as well. these companies need your time, they need your attention in order to make a profit, and they use their platforms to keep you hooked, to show you content that keeps you engaged for as long as possible. >> okay, but then that's exactly what we learned from these
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papers, the facebook papers, but at this point the only thing facebook is suffering from is a pr nightmare. their business is booming, the growth is booming, advertisers love that whether they say it in public or not, but what francis haugen did was send those papers to the scc. what is the possibility of this turning into a legal issue, because anyone on facebook can turn their giant tv screens off, rip up the paper and they don't have to deal with this. they're still really rich. >> yes, they are extremely rich and they're getting richer each quarter. you're absolutely right. as a business facebook hasn't been impacted by any of this. what haugen did was provide an education to the scc, any regulators who are looking to levee any kind of fine on facebook. it would be like an investigaor
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coming back with not just evidence but hard receipts. time and again facebook's own data scientists are finding examples of hate speech and conspiracies, and they're giving their own executives advice on how to make it better, and i think one of the most surprising things is how executives take that advice or don't take it at all. in doing so, they allow all these problems to proliferate on their platform. >> sheera, thank you. i want to bring in democratic senator richard blumenthal. he's a chairman on consumer protection which held that hearing with tiktok, snapchat and youtube executives just yesterday. senator, these algorithms on all these platforms, they make money, but they're also highly addictive. they lead kids down rabbit holes, but none of that is going to change without regulation. what are you doing to protect kids online right now?
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>> a series of measures that we are going to be introducing, for example, strengthening the privacy protection through the children's online privacy protection act. the kids' act which would give parents tools protection against pernicious effects of those algorithms, and require visibility into the algorithms so we all can be educated as to how they work. very significantly yesterday, stephanie, those three companies -- and by the way, two of them have never appeared before snapchat and tiktok -- committed that they would provide all of the research they've done on the negative effects of those algorithms on kids and access to the algorithms. facebook has refused to provide that disclosure. so we're moving in favor, and i think very constructively in favor of more disclosure, but in
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the meantime also legislation. keep in mind it's no accident that congress hasn't acted. these companies have opposed. they fought tooth and nail. facebook has devoted millions of dollars to fight commonsense measures like the erned act which i introduced last session which passed unanimously to curtail immunity they have under section 230. for them to say, oh, we want regulation, we think the government should be providing oversight is the height of disingenuousness. >> it's a whole lot of noise. they are leaving out the fact that they spend hundreds of millions of dollars in the halls of the capitol lobbying against this smart regulation. so, realistically, given what you're up against with facebook and their efforts and lobbying efforts, in terms of regulation, you've got these bills. what's the likelihood that they get passed and what's the timing? more disclosure isn't keeping
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our kids safe. >> we're going to continue with these hearings. we have more that we have in mind with witnesses that will shed a lot of light and create more momentum, educate the public, create a groundswell and a continuing drumbeat of disclosures from facebook. as you know, there are people within facebook, employees who are very, very unhappy, and many of them outraged with what facebook has done. so i think that education awareness is important, but what i see, and i think what america saw in the hearings that we have been conducting, is strong bipartisan focus on protecting children. it is about protecting children against these algorithms that drag them down rabbit holes to dark places, online bullying, eating disorders, self-harm. >> what is the timeline on
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regulation? because more hearings doesn't change anything. and as time passes, facebook is making billions and billions of dollars. what is the timeline in putting legislation forward? >> first, stephanie, as you well know, because you've done a lot of great reporting on it, education does change the way companies act, and i think in this instance, it may well change snapchat, youtube and others who have reacted positively, including tiktok. on the timeline, you think by the end of this year, we will be moving ahead. by the end of this year, i am very hopeful that we will produce from committee and maybe votes on the floor on legislation. >> but, sir, with all due respect, news is just noise. earlier this week on facebook's earnings call, not one single analyst asked them a question about the facebook papers, about francis haugen, nothing.
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why? because it doesn't matter to their bottom line. it doesn't matter to them. >> our focus is not on facebook's bottom line. it is on protecting children and the public against the dangerous, destructive, sometimes toxic content that is driven to them, protecting the public against a business model that thrives on that destructive content. as francis haugen said so powerfully, the goal is not to destroy facebook or big tech or impede necessarily their profitability. it is, in fact, to change their practices so that we protect the public, particularly children. but i'll add one more note here. i think we have the nation's attention. i think we have bipartisan consensus on protecting children, and i think we can move forward on legislation that
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is truly protective. >> we sure hope so, sir. facebook says they want smart regulation. well, perhaps it's time for it. senator richard blumenthal, always good to see you. thank you for joining us. coming up, prices are up and they're not coming down. but do voters actually care about inflation? the answer to that is yes. we're going to take you to one county that says it really matters. also this morning, if you're a first or even an experienced homebuyer with questions, i got your back. tune in to my "on the money" today, all-day special airing at 10:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m. special. you can watch it all day or on your favorite streaming platform. day or on your favorite streaming platform ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience,
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on the issues that matter most. so, let's pass the freedom to vote act and protect all our voices. now to our special series, "county to county." this morning we are back in a crucial swing county in florida and a major concern on a lot of voters' minds. inflation, high prices. it is now the biggest concern for americans overall tied with coronavirus. shaquille brewster is live in duval county, and richard delaney county -- in duval university. >> reporter: there are different reasons they're blaming for it and how they're being impacted
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by it. i want you to listen to conversations i've had in this county, starting with the chair of the republican party, who hopes those voters trending in the opposite direction will go back to republicans. >> inflation is through the roof. we had a really strong economy, and now the economy is rocky, and now people can't afford basic necessities. that troubles people greatly. >> the cost of food is going up, gas is going up. everything is getting higher and harder for people. that's the reality of it right now. i went to go get some milk. it's almost $5, you know. it's ridiculous. my baby loves cereal. you can't buy a $5 gallon of milk every day. just change, you know. try to find some type of way to reverse where we're in now. >> nobody wants to pay a fair wage to anybody. you know, the minimum wage has not kept up with the cost of
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anything. nobody can have a full-time job and have a house and a car. you have to have two wage earners. >> reporter: now, you heard wages being mentioned in that last response there. it is interesting to note especially in a state like florida where the minimum is rising prices and seeing that from the public. you have democrats saying, hey, if national democrats, congress and members of the administration, if they pass biden's agenda, they think that will help alleviate some of the concerns that voters are feeling right now. stephanie? >> rick, weigh in here. we talk about it often. people vote on what affects them, not offends them. how big an issue are higher prices right now. >> good morning stephanie. it's good to be with you.
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in 2020, this was a non-issue. today, however, it is a growing issue. and by 2022, it could be some of the greater issues. in duval county, you've had an increase in gas earlier. housing prices in duvall county in particular have been skyrocketing in an unprecedented manner. this is a growing issue. i think it will be an issue for 2022. remains to be seen what it looks like for 2024. but in duvall county, which was historically red and now purple and trending blue, this is a big issue. >> so let's say democrats make massive moves. they get the hard infrastructure bill passed. they get some version of the human infrastructure bill passed. will that negate people's worries about inflation? because it's not going to change the price of gas or milk or houses. >> in the near-term, not so much. and many people according to polling are suggesting they don't know if they'll feel the impact of either the trade
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infrastructure package or the human infrastructure package, which we'll call it at $2 trillion. it is critically important, however, for president biden and the democrats to get that package through. that will certainly help. that will help level the playing field in lots of areas. but the inflation issue isn't going to go away for 2022. likely on the radar for 2024, and if you're the incumbent, that is a challenge. >> and we're going to stay on it. >> thank you so much, you certainly made us smarter. always good to go out there in the country. shaq, great to see you down in duvall county. coming up, a school board fight in one single virginia county. a school board civil right fight. not even town council. this one fight could have a major impact on the governor's race. we're going to go live on the ground for the latest. that's next. glio ve on the ground for the latest. that's next. ♪ ♪ this is iowa. we just haven't been properly introduced. say hello to the place where rolling hills meets low bills. where our fields, inside and out, are always growing.
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now to some other stories you need to know today. right now, the boston area is getting hammered with powerful winds and rain. those winds knocking out power for nearly half a million people in the state of massachusetts alone. in wisconsin, a judge ruled the men shot by kyle rittenhouse in kenosha last year can be called rioters and looters, but they cannot be called victims. judge bruce schroeder has a standard rule prohibiting the use of the word "victim" until someone is convicted of a crime calling ate loaded term. and in the state of virginia, opening arguments are set to
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begin today in the civil trial who argueized organized the charlotteville rally. and a brand-new poll in the state of virginia shows the governor's race is still neck and neck with terry mcauliffe and glenn youngkin in a virtual tie. it comes after president biden campaigned with mcauliffe last night. and with six days left to go until the election, schools have become a major flashpoint in the race. with this loudoun county school board meeting erupting in absolute chaos last night, we also saw dozens of students stage a walkout at the school to protest sexual assault cases and how they're handled. catie beck is in loudoun county now. catie, you were at that school board meeting. what in the world happened? >> reporter: well, many parents at that meeting, steph, advocating that their outrage is real. more than 130 parents spoke before the board last night. most of them focused on one
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incident. thousand school administration handled a sexual assault case. now, back in may, there was an alleged assault that happened inside a bathroom at a loudoun county school. a male allegedly wearing a skirt went in and assaulted a female student. school administrators then transferred that student to another loudoun county school, where a second assault happened months later. parents say the administration was not honest about that and was too focused on a social agenda to promote a transgender bathroom policy that they did not let this information out, and now they are calling for serious changes and a complete overhaul in leadership. now, while the superintendent did make an apology about a week and a half ago, to parents and students associated with that assault, it did little to diffuse the outrage last night. still, there are some within this school community who say this is all the work of disrupters, who are stirring up these incidents for political purposes. here's a listen to last night's meeting. >> what is clear to me and many
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others is that lcps, the school board, and scott zigler covered up a sexual assault so that they could pass a controversial policy, 80/40. you people are disgusting. >> we've been working for years now to bring equity into the system, to make sure that the rights of lgbtq students, teachers and students, are affirmed, making sure that our minority students are affirmed. >> reporter: now, loudoun county has been a battleground for controversial issues in recent months. this is just another chapter in what has been a lot of heated seaboard meetings here, steph? >> but it's just one county. and how have these school board fights become this big part of now a campaign across the state? that's extraordinary. >> it is. and six days until election day, steph. if you are watching television in virginia, you are seeing the ads of both of these candidates focused on schools and parental choice.
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these issues that are surfacing here in loudoun are certainly becoming a flashpoint in this governor's race. and we spoke to one political expert who said, specifically, republicans are zeroing in on these topics. knowing that they could potentially rev up their base, to galvanize their base, to show up at the polls six day from now. so we'll see how this plays out. but certainly, both candidates speaking specifically about the loudness county incidents at their campaign rallies and in their political ads. steph? >> but how much misinformation ends up out there, right? these culture wars are often wrapped up in getting people fired up over things that aren't even major issues? >> absolutely. it is hard to dispute, when you see more than a hundred parents come to the microphone last night. there certainly is some genuine outrage here in this school district, about the ongoing issues, but, you have to take note, also, that in the parking lot, you are seeing political signs at a school board meeting. and that, too, is unusual. so i think it is certainly a
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combination of multiple things at work here. >> my goodness, these are heated times. thank you so much. important story, important race in virginia. and this has been a busy and important hour. thank you for watching. i'm stephanie ruhle. jose diaz-balart picks up breaking news coverage right now. good morning. it's 10:00 a.m. eastern, 7:00 a.m. pacific. i'm jose diaz-balart. it is a new day in washington, with less than 24 hours before president biden heads to rome for the g-20 summit. the pressure is on for democrats to finally reach a deal on the president's build back better agenda. also this morning, parents are one step closer to being able to get their kids vaccinated, now that the fda has recommended the pfizer shots for kids ages 5 through 11. meanwhile, out west, officials in santa fe are searching for answers in the wake of the deadly shooting on a movie set that left one person dead and another injured. later today, law enforcement will hold a press conference to give us the latest on the
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