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home in the old military graveyard under the black prairie sod and the wind. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline extra. " i'm craig melvin. thanks for watching. she would come into our room, the room with just bright enough. >> people instantly thought, i'm kelly's best. from >> the very first message that i looked that, was, have you seen? kayleigh >> this pass, can i help. you're >> my daughter is missing. >> i had this sickening. feeling >> and i'm looking at a desperate man, anything could happen. >> i would've never been able to tell my daughter, you're a monster, your bogeyman will pull up alongside you and instead of coming to help you. come to harm. you >> inside the ship, there was a green purse, there was also a large rock saturated in dry blood.
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>> this is not a good senate. all >> it is not. >> they had been hit with a sledgehammer, that's about what it feels like. >> she began coming to, trying to fight, she was trying to turn emergency lights on, trying to grab the radio, trying to honk the horn, anything that she could do. because she knew, she knew. it was a saturday night in the summer, and they were so happy, at their bachelorette party, as they left and danced. and played their drinking games. well outside in the dark, watchful, waiting, hidden in its clever disguise. death drew by. looking for, one of them. it all around, the peaceful town, tucked into sleep, no ghost, no slayer toward, them
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that evil had fooled their defenses. and slipped inside to snatch its prey. wolf this is the place, here in the wide handsome high desert of central oregon. a small city when. an annual occupant of any list of the best places to live in america. >> it's a nice place to live. i love it here. it's perfect. >> an outdoor recreation heaven. on the slopes of the cascade rain, right with rivers, with legs, and rugged independence. >> everything here is about outdoors. about connections. >> and then was home to a beautiful young woman, named kayleigh sawyer. this is kelly's mother, julie. >> she was probably, 17. and she said to me, mom, when people describe me i want them to describe me as smart and
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strong and funny. and she was. >> yes, and feisty, and fearless. her best for naomi sleepover body, and stun team cheerleading partner. >> i love kayleigh so much, but she's not the most coordinated person that there was. we were probably the best done team on our squad, because our communication, we did need to speak, we can look at each other and understand everything about one another. well >> i wouldn't really color tomboy, but i also wouldn't call her a girly girl. somewhere in between we >> she could look like a model, in a minute, ambient scrubbing clothes to go camping in the next. >> she calls her grandfather, papa jim. they're with grandma sharon. >> she was our sunshine. she was our. world, >> do you worry about her? >> she wasn't banned. she had family around. so, my worry was that if she
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left band, oh my goodness would've mike we -- she wouldn't have a gram usher in there, we have to move. we have to go and be with her. that was my worry. not being invent. >> mind, you kayleigh was on her own the, living with her boyfriend. a young man named, cam. >> i could tell from the moment that kelly mike cam, that this was a good relationship for her. i could see that she was happy. >> cameron and kayleigh love each other. we are looking that they would probably get engaged before to long. >> they were a beautiful couple together. >> yeah. >> they involve themselves with family. if we had a family dinner, everybody knew killing cam were coming, then it became a holiday. kelly in-camera coming. >> now, if she could just forgot what to do with their lives. >> she was gonna be a plastic surgeon, she was gonna be a
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chef, she was gonna be a photographer -- the world was hers. she didn't pick one thing. >> no, but this year, the year she turned 23, that was changing. she held a job for two full years now as a dental assistant. >> she was my work daughter. she followed me around to learn how to do things, because she really wanted to be the best. >> kelly's mentor at the dentist's office had discovered that kelly had this rare ability to make people laugh. even when they weren't in the mood, or were scared. >> if there was a difficult patient, you put killing in the room, and they were just not. >> so those pretty eyes and that smile -- >> and then, surprise surprise, kelly was making plans to enroll in college. now she knew what you wanted to do. >> one day she came into work and said, i've decided, i want to become a dentist. so both of them at something to look forward to that saturday night, july 23rd, 2016, lisa was celebrating her upcoming
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wedding. the bachelorette party. it was for her. kelly had already told lisa and her sister jenna, that she couldn't go. she'd be out of town. but, last minute. -- >> i got a text from her saying, guess what i'm going to show up to your party to help celebrate you. but i'm going to show up a little late, but i'm going to be there. >> that's a great thing, women getting together for bachelor party -- >> especially at our age. >> it was after 8 pm when katie showed up, at a country bar, called mad wigs. the party was well underway. >> she came in a little dress, and looked adorable in. it >> indeed she did. we >> hear photos of kayleigh at that party, in that black dress. she was kicking off her heels a bit? right >> she was having fun. >> but when the bachelorette and her party began to run out of steam, katie and her friend left to keep things going. at another bar downtown.
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>> you know, i check them out and said you girls be safe, you're okay right? >> and she said yes, will be good. >> and, a little before 10:30 pm, she walked out into the night, happy, a little tipsy. altogether, unaware of what was waiting on the other side of midnight. >> coming up >> a friend of cam's, texted him and said your girlfriend is here dancing with another guy. >> clearly out for a night of fun. but where would she be in the morning came. >> the very first message that i looked at was from cam saying, have you seen kayleigh? >> instantly, i had this sickening feeling in my gut. >> when dateline continues. bear hug betty. settle in kids, you'll be there a while. ooo, where you going?
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july 24th, the day after the bachelorette party. kelly's mother was driving home from a weekend camping trip. she approached ben around 5 pm. re-entered cellphone range. >> i turned my phone back on and my phone was just pinging and pinging. and the very first message that i looked at was from cam saying, have you seen kayleigh? have you heard from kayleigh? >> why would cam be asking her about kayleigh? after all they live together. >> julie's phone jerked over and over. camera texted or the same question almost hourly all day? >> so you're looking at multiple messages. >> yes. >> each getting a little bit more word. >> yes, and i called her first. and her phone went to voice. mel which kayleigh notoriously letters cellphone battery go really low. so that wasn't surprising. >> by then, cam had already
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texted her dad, and stepfather, as they were in church. >> his phone, in his pocket kept buzzing. i am elbowing him and saying, what's going on? so he said that cam doesn't over kelly's. and i'm like, okay. >> so kelly's, that question can. >> what did cameron tell you? >> she went to a bachelor party and they had an argument going home, -- >> an argument? >> it just seemed really obvious that she just called a friend to pick up because he was mad. and that was it. i literally thought nothing more to it than that. >> but can clearly did. he spent that sunday calling the entire family. >> cam called and said, graham and sharon have you heard from kayleigh? and i said no i had. and >> graham assuring called and said had you talk to kayleigh? no i don't know, is everything okay, what's going on? so i called her. i don't even know how many times and her phone was going
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straight to voice mail. and i figured she was out with friends. maybe she ended up testing with. them >> but the bride to be, fluid said goodnight to the happy young woman, was alarmed. >> instantly i had this sickening feeling in my gut. because that's not clearly, she would've contacted somebody well or went to someone's house or whatever. >> julie, still driving, trying to comprehend the call from camp who told her that after the bachelorette party at that other barr, clearly it had a few. and was having fun with some of the other guys. >> they were dancing. and i guessed a friend of cams texted him and said, your girlfriend is here dancing with another guy. and so he went and picked her up. and on the way home, they started to argue. >> camp story? he parked outside their apartment a little after midnight. temper still hot. he got out of the car, she
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stayed inside. he told her, come up when you've cooled off. but a few minutes later, while she got, and walked away into the night. >> it didn't surprise me when he told me that she went for a walk. because she had always done that. when she was younger and should get in trouble and i would tell her you need to go to your room, chances are she went to her room and out her window. and she'd go for a walk. >> she had to work it out. >> she was mad, she would go for a walk. and that wasn't unusual behavior. >> anyway, coming katie lived in a crime free neighborhood right across the street from the local college. but cam didn't sound so sure of the story. so, where did she go? why didn't she come back? why didn't she call anyone? julie encourage cam to call the police. which he did sunday afternoon.
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>> ditch fast, how can i help you? >> hi, last night i got home from the bars, with my girlfriend, she got upset at me, and ran off. and i still haven't heard from. her her phone is off. >> okay, did you just take off walking, from the address -- >> yes, i walked, i walked inside and she came into me, and she said come. now and then i went back in ten minutes and i told her a few times and she said she was walking down the street. haven't heard from her since. >> as julie neared ben, she was worried if police would take it seriously. after all, a grown woman, what the -- lover's path. so julie added a little emergency, and call 9-1-1 herself. >> detached? >> yes i need to have an office or call me, my daughters missing, and she is over 23, but she has epilepsy and some medical issues. >> i exaggerated her seizure condition, when she was younger she had seizures.
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but she hadn't had a seizure for a while. but i told them, that i was worried about her. >> how did they react to that? >> they were concerned about that. they knew that she had been out the night before. she had been drinking. could that have triggered a medical incident. >> julie drove straight to the apartment, where she question cam. >> i was frustrated that's story just didn't make sense. what so i walked out of the apartment, and i said i needed to go and take a walk. and get some fresh air. and while i was out there walking, the officer came and i said to him, i need you to go talk to cam. because a story doesn't make sense to me. >> what was going on? and where was kayleigh sawyer? coming up. >> kelly's mom wasn't the only
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one troubled by camp story. >> my thought was, did they really have that bad of an argument did something happen? >> i wanted police think about her sudden disappearance? >> did you both agree at some point that something was going on here, something was off? >> yes we were talking back and forth, and we said do you think we need detectives involved? and he said yes absolutely. >> when dateline continues when dateline continues i've got big news! now, nurtec odt is the first and only medication proven to treat and prevent migraines. don't take if allergic to nurtec. the most common side effects were nausea, stomach pain, and indigestion. ask your doctor about nurtec today!
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sunday evening, july 24th. the sun descended toward the cascades. 18 hours after kayleigh sawyer argued with her boyfriend, and walked alone in the dark. her extended family gathered at the apartment she shared with her father, jamie. >> was party you suspicious of cameron? >> my thought, was yes they had that better than, argument and something that happened. >> your mind when, there because the vast majority of the time when something happens to a young woman, it's someone very close. >> it's hard to believe, we knew cameron, he's a nice guy. it's hard to imagine. the views still do. >> remember, cam's story troubled kaleigh's mother to. police officer arrived, and parked outside the apartment. right across the street of the campus of central oregon community college. >> it's on one of the more
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prestigious areas of towns. >> safe area. think >> it's very safe. >> officer was soon joined by corporal eric soupy. we'll denny talk to the finley, he found that friend, who saw kayleigh dancing at the bar. the one who texted cam, better come get her. >> a little after midnight, can we send a text message to her friend saying, i'm home, everything is okay. i'm sorry about earlier tonight. and then her friends tried to call or just before 1 am, and she did not answer the phone. >> did there seem to be any chance that she would go back to be with the guy she met at the party. >> initially i thought there might be a chance. >> did you call them? >> i called him on the telephone, he didn't give her his phone number so they were kind of just hanging out that night and that was the last he ever saw of her. >> did that seem to make sense to you? >> yes it did.
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>> nothing to disprove, anything camp had told them. >> what's your take on cameron story? >> it makes sense? >> it made. since he took julia side to justice concerned about cam. >> he was able to come and tell me it's not that history is changing, it's evolving, he is remembering things. >> i think that he very early on, took on the guilt. and the responsibility that if something did happen to her, that maybe it was his fault. i think it was hard for him to retail that story. with me thinking, why did she protect her? why did she just leave her in the car, when you guys were arguing? >> why do you let her go off in the night alone. >> but i never felt he was involved in harming her. >> then officer denny assembled the family.
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and asked them a question. >> i said hey is there any where you can think of that she might, be in that sent them on a mission to go start looking in places, where she could, be if she was trying to cool off. >> i remember going up to the campus, and walking the route that we were told or schumer that she might have walked that night. >> a terrifying thing to do, said. jim >> we don't know if we're looking for a, body parts of, clothing a purse, something. >> you are worried something very bad it happened? >> yes putrefied. terrified. >> i wanted to stay home, and i wanted to be there, because maybe she would come home. >> maybe she come home, maybe should call. >> my husband went out and looks for her. we are praying that he find her, that she's safe, but in a way, you know that something is wrong, i was praying that he did not find her. because i did not want him, to
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have to find her, if somebody had hurt her. >> now for the two officers, a judgment call. >> she was a grown woman, missing, but she had a right to be somewhere else. there is no evidence of foul play. but, did you both agree at that point something was going on here? this something is off? >> yes we are talking back and forth and he said do you think we need to get detectives involved? and i said yes absolutely. >> overnight the first missing persons flyer in the katie sawyer case, went out, law enforcement around central oregon, and the next morning. everyone held their breath. hoping she would simply show up for work. at the dentist office. and then they would all breathe again. >> i drove in a walks into her workplace, and they all looks at me in their faces just showed me when they were already thinking. and i asked itchy colin, and
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they just shook their heads. >> it was heartbreaking. nobody could talk >> just a lot of tears. >> that's when he knew. that's when i knew something. and i still didn't want to accept it. >> she was truly missing. and then a few hours later, 20 miles up the road, a police detective got up from his desk. >> i went out to my car and i got my lunch. and i was walking through the lobby, and spa isabelle ponce. isabelle is somebody that we knew. she was a police officer recruit, and resident. >> she seemed to be waiting for something. curious. he walked on, back to his office. set down. no idea what was about to warm its ugly way, into his world. >> coming up.
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swamped, under waves of panic. it was 36 hours since she walked into the organ night and vanished. >> i'm trying to get a sense of what it felt like to be in the middle of all of that. >> complete loss of control. accompanied with sheer panic. >> never been hit the chest with a sledgehammer? that's about what it feels like. >> and then going on new, and 20 miles north, at the police department, -- named isabelle ponce, sitting calmly on a chair, as if waiting for something. ought. >> it struck me as unusual, i didn't approach, or struck up a conversation. it is when my office. >> he prepared to tuck in. when a colleague appeared at his door. >> he asked me if i had any
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idea why she would be in the office, and that she had recalled in question to talk to a watch commander supervisor some kind. >> i know idea. >> and then? >> and then i saw sergeant duff bring isable ponce isable ponce into his office. and then he opened his door and yield on the haul for me to come in. >> of course, he rushed in there, and right into the biggest most shocking case of his life. >> at first, it was just puzzling. >> describe the scene to me. >> she's crying, she's crying uncontrollably. >> could you tell it was going on? >> i knew we had a big problem, i never would've anticipated how big of a problem we had. >> there's been an accident. she got out through her tears. or at least her husband said it was an accident, said he hit someone with his car. >> and it must have been that missing girl had been showing
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on that tv kaylee sawyer. >> did that name kayleigh sawyer mean anything to you? >> it did when i arrived at work on that monday, i notice there had been media put out a mrs. person flyer, in requesting other agencies for any information, or to be on the lookout for her. i knew right away when she was talking about. >> isabelle said her husband was a security guard as central oregon community college. and something must have happened there late saturday. because she said he seems kind of distant, all day sunday, lake here, when they went to the movies. this picked up by a surveillance camera. and then, monday morning. >> so he comes out of the room in his eyes are all thierry. and i was like what happened. tell me what happened. tell me what's wrong. >> and he said i hitter with a car. and easy tell you which car? he said the security, the car
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they use at the job. >> what did you say to that? >> i said what do you mean? what do you mean you hitter? and he said, i hitter and i panicked. >> all is he said was he hitter any panicked? he never said -- >> it was it making any sense to me, because i'm, like why would somebody hit somebody and then do. that especially, you especially him. like it doesn't make any sense. >> it did not make sense. that isabelle because her hug spend, was a good man, he had a degree in criminal justice, was in training to be a cop. and then he told her that awful confusing story. and just got in his car, told her is going to make a run, for and took, off he fled. he ran away. >> how long to this conversation go on for? >> it was pretty brief.
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it was just him moving around, i don't think he grabbed anything other than he did grab my gun. and then he just kept saying i need to go i need to go. >> what did you think when you heard all of these things? >> i thought we had a significant problem, we had a gentleman, who died now known was a member of the campus public safety, whose wife was a police recruit. who was potentially arms. would have some knowledge of the way police initiate an investigation. >> so, now on the, run he knew what police would do. but, seemed like isabelle was being very vague about him. >> we had very little information about who he was and when his background was. it was almost alarming that we didn't know much about him. >> or more importantly, where he was now. >> only place she think he could be going is traveling southbound from central oregon.
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to his grandfather's place in los angeles. >> right away the issue to b.o.l.o., be on the lookout for him. and the 2008 silver nissan ultimately he was believed to be driving. and then he activated the major crimes team, called in dozens of investigators. among those responding, was the sheriff's detective james mclaughlin. who had his own questions about the story isabelle had reported about her husband. >> he told his wife this crazy tale which made her name by true. >> mayor name not. be there a lot of things left, out as far as details that we needed to know. law enforcement wise. like how did it happen? where is she now. >> where is she that is. we're she lying in some ditch, badly her? what exactly did ed with laura due to her, and how big had started he have? after, all isabelle didn't seem to be in a big rush to report any of this. driving from their home eight
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minutes away from the police department, then waiting for who knows how long just sitting in the office. waiting to speak to a sergeant. >> so she could've been on the phone and let people know in a heartbeat. you just told me this, he's on the road. get him. >> and she did. not >> there is an unknown period of time, in between his confession to her, from when the actual report took place. it could've been a half hour 45 minutes, however, it could've also been an hour to have two hours. we just don't know. >> you're on a man hunt. now >> we are. our goal was this. we are going to hunt for ed wynne, as quickly and as fiercely as we can. so we can potentially locate kayleigh alive, and be, if we can't, we can find her and that we can stop anyone else from being hurt. >> and so began one of the largest manhunts in oregon
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history. but, not so easy to find a man who does not want to be found. or, to know what that man might do next. coming up, a mother's nightmare. >> you hear about news stories about people stealing young women, and now i'm going to have to search for, her being a sex slave. >> when dateline continues. >> when dateline continues >> when dateline continues. >> when dateline continues maureen is saving big, holiday shopping at amazon. so now, she's free to become ... maureen the merrier. food is her love language. and she really loves her grandson. like, really loves. by monday afternoon kaylee
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sawyer had been on a day and a half. and the calculus was very grim. if edwin lara told us wait the truth, kayleigh might be dead. but was he telling the truth? and where she? >> where was kayleigh still alive and injured. or alive and the captive unarmed in obviously dangers fugitive? having told them where she came to say. isabelle ponce was no longer much help. >> i don't think he has a plan. i don't think he knows what he's doing. >> did you pick's phone? >> we did immediately. initially pings in eagle crest. eagle crest is a resort, about ten minutes west. but, it must have been a false signal, it did not pan out. so. >> we didn't have a good idea,
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of where he was or where he might go. >> none of this of course could be shared with kaleigh's family. not yet. not even with her mother. who is conducting a search of her own. >> my best friend and i went and made missing posters, and started distributing those all throughout and. and the whole time that you're doing this, you're checking your cellphone. here calling her cellphone. and the part that was hard is sometimes she would call. and it would go straight to voice mail. but sometimes you would call and it would ring, and so you would think, oh my gosh, did she turn the phone on. and nobody ever answered. >> did you think maybe she'd been kidnapped or something? >> when i heard she'd gone for a walk. you hear about news stories about people stealing young women, and.
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>> you know she's a blonde good-looking young. woman you never. now >> now i'm going to have to search to her being a sex slave. and that, is an awful thing. >> we knew how hard the family was searching for kayleigh. how many friends and relatives and people that were out looking for her. so that was weighing on my mind. and whether other investigators as. well >> the major crime scene is growing by the hour. the district returning john humble. >> this was full, and every man, every woman every law agency in the county, and cook and jefferson counties. with the oregon state police department as well. putting all resources into it. we needed to find, her because we thought that she may, still be a life. >> edwin lara was the key. again they asked his wife, where could he be. >> did you ask her whether he knew other people around town that he might hide with?
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or something like that? >> yes i did, she told me that there would be no place for him to go. in town or, close or anywhere in oregon for that matter. >> no place at all she said. no family to run too, no one. and then a bit later. one of the investigators remembered something. laura did in fact have family in the area. police says one arrested his stepfather, and that's how the investigator knew that the investigators with five minutes from the police department. and also five minutes from edwin lara house. >> and what do you, know his way if the police officer, basically let you away from that. >> she definitely didn't meet me directly to that place. that's for sure. >> and there, lo and behold just two blocks from his parents house, detectives found edwin lara getaway car. his 2008 nissan all-time, abandoned. the swat team was assembled. went to his parents door. >> was he at his parents?
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house >> know he was not in his parents house. >> and from the parents? >> there was it much detail if. any only that he had come, by that he had asked for some money, they had no idea where he was or where he had gone, that there was any trouble at all. that was the initial interview. they gave no credible information. >> did they tell the officers that they've given him a car to use? >> no. >> it doesn't make it easy to find a person, it's typical. but no it does not. >> maybe there will be something in laura's house, some clue, to what made him tick, where you might have gone. detective got a search war. and headed over there. when inside. but nothing could've prepared him, for what he would discover. nothing at all. coming up, to discoveries at edwin lara home. one surprising. >> there were things that were written uncertain pages. the other, horrifying.
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moment wherever you chose. two massive searches, we're in full force across central oregon. like that monday in july, 2016. and either case, did the searchers have all the facts. katie sawyer's family got word out every which way they could. posters, facebook. >> within less than 24, hours there were 10,000 shares. of kayleigh's missing picture. there was not a spa and downtown band, or redmond that you could go, that you did not see the kiwis missing picture. >> we had people call and, said i just canceled everything for the, week what do you need. >> her family did not know with
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this police officer told detectives. >> he said that he hitter with the car, and then he panicked. >> did not know, that this security company car had missing fire attached, was the very one he was driving, when as he told his wife, he ran into kayleigh. but, was she dead? or alive? it was most certainly said the da, a race against time. >> i was holding on to hope and every officer was holding on to, hope that she might be clinging to, life and if we could find, her we could raise her to, help and bring her back from the point of no return. >> as they searched for her, they searched also for him. for answers. the detective struggled to contain his outrage, to the security guard at central oregon community, college it want to be cop. would cut and run. how do you wrap your mind around the idea that someone at that level of trust, would do such a thing? . >> i don't think you can wrap
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your mind around that. >> by now the major cranes team is grown more than 30 investigators. one of whom was this detective, about to be sent to conduct a search of edwin lara's home. >> i would like to see what makes this person tick. >> and it just happened, coincidence, really that he was a former pastor. which was about to matter. a lot. >> we go through the, house and i'm immediately joined to a music, room there's pictures of ed women and isabelle inside. various musical instruments. >> they found youtube videos. laura singing love some, but also in here, was evidence that he was a member of his churches warship team. and here on his bedside table, was a well worn bible. >> you preach from a bible. so you knew what he used by the looks. like >> there were things that were written certain pages, certain scriptures. so i believe that this, point
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this is one of the focal points of his life. >> when the detective found evidence in a note, that he was giving 10% of his income to his church, he began taking several steps ahead. >> what did you think these are looking at that? bible and you see that he is clearly highly engaged in his religion. and his commitment to it. >> my first thought is, i'm here for some kind of, reason and i believe, that unless this is a complete farce, that there's a hook there, and i'm looking for a hook for the house. i want to hook. >> if there's anybody who could use that, hook it's. you >> i believe. that that was my initial, thought that i could use this. >> something going on with them. and >> he's feeling something else, and i'm wondering what that is. >> maybe they find in the backyard shed, isabella told detectives, that he had left some things there, would it reveal anything about what happened, or where kelly was? mandala flynn opened the door, and, this did not look good.
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>> what did you find in? they're >> inside this shed there was a trash, bag inside that trash bag, there was a green purse. that green purse had a large amounts of cast often bloodstain on it. >> inside the purse. kayleigh sawyer's passport. and there were the shoes she put on before the bachelorette party saturday night. but then, there it was. like a punch in the gut. >> there's also a large rock that was very sharp, half of it at least was saturated in dried blood. >> a murder weapon. it had to be. this is not a good sign at all. >> it is. not >> kayleigh sawyer was not a victim of a hit and run. no. it was much more than that. and in that moments. faint hope died. >> i believe that she was dead. >> this was a murder, this was not an accident. >> this was definitely not an
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accident. this was definitely a murder. >> but if that was not horrifying enough, there was one more thing in that shed. this. it was a poster board for a criminal justice class edwin lara had taken at the community college. a project on serial killers. >> he had a fascination with serial killers, and so you naturally ask why are you a serial killer? >> and if that was a real question, then what were your fears of what could happen? >> i very real fears that he, was going to have ducked, and that he was going to harm someone else. i knew we had a firearm, i knew clearly at this point in time, this man is willing to commit murder. this man is willing to do heinous, unspeakable things. >> monday evening, late now. 48 hours after kayleigh sawyer vanished. kaylee's friends and family,
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scoured everywhere. and found no sign of. her anywhere. >> i told my husband, i'm not stupid. i know she's not with us anymore. about five minutes later, there was a knock on the door. >> that's when they told her what they'd found. the kayleigh was dead. in the guy named edwin lara was on the run. and now detectives worried what or who is next. >> i'm looking at a desperate man, and anything can happen at this point in time is my thought, anything can happen. >> oh it would. 9 pm, 130 miles northwest, in the capital city of salem oregon. a 19-year-old sales woman was walking to her car. tired, at the end of her double
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shift. >> i was supposed to leave in the middle of the afternoon. but i decided to stay in cover someone shift. >> and she got her car, she got out her phone. and snap to selfie. >> it was a long day, i was on my snapchat. just took a picture, working with double shift. >> that's when she saw him, i just in the corner of my eye. >> someone reaching into her window. >> that's when he unlock the door, and sat in the car really fast. any and a big backpack with him, and he had a gun, just pointing it at me. >> she flinched. had to be a prank she thought. >> i was really confused because i thought it was somebody that i knew. >> but then she saw this wild look. >> and it just happened also. fast and then i saw his, face and i was like what are you doing. and he started yelling at me. where was the gun? >> it was in between him and his backpack, he had his backpack on his lap, then he had his gun hiding, it just pointing it at me. >> what did he say to you about
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the gun? >> he didn't say anything, he just kept it pointing at me until they started driving. >> then she started laughing. had to be a prank. >> and that's when he got really upset, and he put the gun on my thigh, and he told me, do you think this is a game, do you think this is a joke because i will shoot you, i'm not joking. >> her body reacted than almost before her mind. >> where does it feel? like >> this whole part of my face into my ears was like numb, and burning hot, and read, and i remember i was just gripping the steering wheel so hard, i wasn't even crying at this point, because it was just so unreal to me. >> coming up. her terrifying journey is just the beginning. >> it kind of felt like i'm probably not going to go home. they are probably going to find my body, in a ditch somewhere. find me dead in a motel. >> but she doesn't get scared,
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there had been murdered. and they were in hot pursuit of the prime suspect, edwin lara he was more than 100 miles up the road on the run, and desperate. he kidnapped teenager andrea at gunpoint, and forced her to start driving. he told, her he would killed a girl, and made her look as she drove at the store is about kayleigh on her phone. >> how did you not become hysterical? >> i don't know. in my head i just kept thinking, it will end soon.
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maybe he'll just, sleeve or maybe he will just find another car. >> she thought about her family. would she ever see them again? was he going to kill her? and then somehow,, her car had an oil leak. if she made him believe it was worse than it was, would he let her go? >> i kept telling him, it's not going to make. it you just need to find a different car. find somebody else. because i can't help you, and he just kept telling me, we'll figure it, out we'll just keep adding oil. >> and so they did. they stopped of the service station, and then a mcdonald's, where he held her at gunpoint, while he bought food. >> it was the most frustrating feeling ever, knowing that i probably talked to maybe five people. while he had a captive. and no one even suspected a thing. >> you're trying to make him understand what's going on? >> i wanted to, but he told, me
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if i even made eye contact with anybody, he would shoot, them and he would shoot me. that he didn't care. that he had nothing to lose. >> and so again, she drove. he held the gun. in a strange thing happened. >> there was a couple of, times where i really thought, i wasn't going to go home ever. i wasn't going to see my family. so when i would feel like that, and those, times i would just in and i don't care attitude, and i would snap, him i would say things,. >> instead of crying or getting upset you'd get mad? >> yes. >> have. >> kind of felt, like i'm probably not gonna go home i'm never going to see anybody again, they'll find my body in a ditch somewhere, or find me dead in a motel or something. >> and sure enough, 90 miles down the interstate, he told her, were stopping. they pulled up to a motel, and harry's on surveillance video, keeping an eye on her.
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well he checks in. once inside their room. he handcuffed her. he took a shower. told her, now it's your turn. >> in my head i thought i'd rather die than shower in front of you. and i told him, i don't care what you do to me at this point. because that would be honestly worse than dying, is to shower in front of, you i would rather die. >> what did you do? did you ever think maybe i can make a break for a while he's in the shower? >> it's kind of silly of me, i watch criminal minds in line order, they're my favorite shows, and i was handcuffed the whole time, a couple of times i thought, i could probably just, but the handcuffs around his neck and maybe make impasse out or something. to give me enough time to run. or drive away. but then the thoughts would come into my head, will i could go really bad if i'm not strong enough to do that, and he's the one with the gun. >> he moved, her handcuffed through the bed. forced her to take a sleeping pill, put his face down beside
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hers. >> i was freaking out. because i had never been put in a position like, that i don't really know what to do. >> she knew, -- just then, the alarm on her phone when enough. >> i don't even know what that alarm was for. but that alarm probably saved my life. he saw and he was like what does that mean. and i don't know where i got the idea, but i was like, that's my timer, i have to take medicine every day. and he was like for what? and i said i have an suv. and he said you have what's? and i said i have an suv. i've been living with it. i have to take medicine. she didn't, but. did you think if i tell him that he won't want to rape me? >> yes. >> and you are right. >> yes. >> then the connectors phone,
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ring it was someone from his family, they said the cops are after. i'm he put out a bullet professed, and announced they were leaving. and as her car sputtered down the highway, in the pitch dark, far from any town or help. he frightened her with a fake story, that he came from a family of rapists and murderers, known criminals. >> he had started telling me that we're going to los angeles, that he has family there. i was just thinking 1 million things. i'm going to be put through sex trafficking, are all be sold to somebody. i have no idea why he's planning to do, and maybe just kill me at the end. i did not think i was going to live another day. i did not think i would even see the moon that night. >> and oh. it would get worse. though, when it did, -- i didn't see anything, my whole had just one black. >> coming up. a shooting. the gun just went off.
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another kidnapping. >> you just need a, driving news get me out of. here >> in a facebook message from a killer. >> i just want to let family members know that she is, fine and she will be fine. >> when dateline continues. e fine >> when dateline continues >> when dateline continues way for you to sell your car. whether it's a year old or a few years old. we wanna buy your car. so go to carvana and enter your license plate answer a few questions. and our techno wizardry calculates your car's value and gives you a real offer in seconds. when you're ready, we'll come to you, pay you on the spot and pick up your car, that's it. so ditch the old way of selling your car, and say hello to the new way at carvana.
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as donna right in northern california. it was tuesday, 52 hours after kayleigh disappeared. andrea and her kidnap or, had been on the road eight hours. and her car, was overheating. >> he told, me we're going to have to get a new car, this one is not going to make it. >> at 5 am, she pulled off the road in california. at this super eight motel. where he saw a man unloading
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his car. checking into his room. he grabbed andrea, dragged her along. and burst in on the man. and that's when it happened. >> the guy was, like you guys have the wrong roomy need to leave. and edward was, like we just need to your car. we are net won't hurt. you we just need to get out of here. and the guy was like no, help help, >> and one half? and >> he told him to stop yelling, and he told them if he didn't, stop he would kill him. and he just kept yelling for help. and then the gun just went off. and everything kind when black in my head. >> the man clutched his stomach, went down, and all i remember is my ears were ringing really loud. and i was just being pulled out of the room. >> they, rand laura pulling andrea with him. and i just thinking i just saw him shoot somebody in front of. i'm with him to stop him from shooting me in the back on my way to the car. and i was just scared, i did
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not know what to do. and elise ahead of me was a gas station, that's where he was running to. >> here, the mobile station, somebody was gassing. up in the car an older woman and two young men. one behind the wheel. laura jumped in, pulled andrea into. >> and he said, you just need to drive. he was pointing the gun at the driver at the time. >> he slammed the, doors took. off behind then someone called 9-1-1, emt's arrived just in time to save the life of the man he shot, well in the car, the older woman was hysterical. >> she just really didn't understand what was going, on i mean who would. >> he took their cellphones, made andrea throw them out the window. >> i was just trying to throw them as hard as they could to the grass to make sure they one break so maybe they could pinpoint where we were going or something. >> and then 30 miles down the road, suddenly stopped.
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>> and he's like okay you guys all get out. >> that is all but andrea. who as she watched them leave, saw that one of them still in a cell phone. >> i think it was one of the boys who were spotted of to keep it. >> how do the car the boy called 9-1-1. while edwin lara unaware of what the boy was doing, kept driving. >> he was going like 120 at that time now, and he was just zooming in and out of cars, honking at people, just driving reckless and crazy. >> how did you understand that somebody was following you? >> i didn't. it was just him that kept saying, oh there's a helicopter, it's following me. they know where i'm going. and i think he was just paranoid. >> did you see the helicopter? >> no i did. not in a couple of times he could even hear it i guess. and he would tell me, do you hear, it where is it. and i would look and there would be nothing there. >> paranoid. but before along, they heard the sirens.
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saw the highway patrol cars behind them. here's the dash cam video. but even then, screaming down the freeway, he made phone calls to his family, and recorded this. on andrea's phone. >> hi everybody i just want to say that, i apologize for everything i've done and most likely i'm going to get caught, i'm sorry about that girl. the girl in oregon. i just want to let family members know, that andrea is fine it so far she's being good, she's doing when i tell her to. and if you guys are wondering -- no. i'm not that kind of guy.
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i killed the other girl, i regret it. i regret killing her. she just kept screaming. and i had to silence or forever. tell the cops not to shoot us, sorry everybody. >> just here, she made the last of a series of remarkable decisions. decisions that very likely saved her, life and certainly save your family anguish. >> so he wanted me to post that to my facebook, and share with everybody, and i remember i think he had me captioning, crazy murder on the loose or something to that effect, and i kept telling, him i have a lot of people i don't want to see, this because he did required me
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in that video a couple of times. and i didn't want teachers or pastors, or friends in people to see that. it's so vulnerable. so i just change this setting on the post, to just only me to see it. so it looks like it really did post, but only i could see it. and he was threatening to kill me if i didn't post it. >> it was at this very, moment 6:40 am, when edwin lara called 9-1-1. >> 9-1-1 which are emergency. recording. >> hi this is edwin lara, and i'm the guy on the interstate five. going a high speed. i just want to say i'm going to turn myself in. >> the dispatchers trying to understand. >> are you by yourself? >> no i have someone with me. i kidnapped her in oregon. she's innocent. her name is andrea. which last? then >> i'll let her give her last name so you can call her family. okay >> hello? >> hi what's your. name andrea.
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are you heard it all andrea? no >> sounding a little story for himself. edwin lara started bargaining. >> i want to ask you a favor. so i have asthma. >> you have asthma okay. >> so you can tell him not to be too rough on, because you, know i can barely breathe right now. you want me to throw my gun out the window right now? >> no don't do that right now. >> all right. >> i just want you to stop safely. >> i can give it to andrea see if she wants to kill. me >> no, no, no. >> finally. just before 7 am. >> don't keep them chasing. you just pull over. >> yeah i'll pull over right. now okay. i'll let you talk to andrea. >> okay, just don't hang-up. >> i'm. not >> hello. >> yeah high-end. jerry okay? you don't need a medical or anything? >> no. >> he is? staffing >> yes. >> can you see, do they have him in custody? already >> they're putting the
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cuffs on him right now. >> they put the cuffs on? him i'm gonna hang up and just get out and you walk backwards toward them with your hands up. >> okay. >> but it still wasn't over for andrea. she was arrested two. and it was hours before detectives from oregon allow rivals and explain that andrea was the innocent one. a victim. and then, two more things happened in this remote california police station. first, the horrifying story, the confession, about what that man did to kiwi sawyer. and then, quiet and unnoticed. and extreme complication. >> coming up. a brave young woman's battle. >> he said she was coming to and tried to. fauci was trying to turn the emergency loan, trying to honk the, horn anything that she could do. because she knew. >> and in henry quest, from a killer. >> it was shocking to me to
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what's happening. alex bowman spoke up publicly for the first time since the fatal shooting on the set of rust. they called her a friend and said that he remains in constant contact with the family. the actor also called the crew, a very red oil machine before the shooting occurred. in the world series is going back to houston, the astros beat the atlanta braves, 9 to 5, a game six will be on tuesday. what they are leading the series 3 to 2. now back to dateline. what california tuesday, county jail, after a three day tuesday crime spree, killing, kidnapping, carjacking, high speed chase -- >> get your hands off. >> and finally surrendered.
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>> all set right here. >> edward seem eager to talk to the detectives that just arrived from oregon. >> we were informed, actually, as we were walking into the jail that he has been asking for you, waiting for you. >> the question was, what would he say? >> as the detective's soon learned, a better question might be, what wouldn't he say. >> hi my name is sergeant backward >> i mask. >> i shouldn't introduce myself, because you guys already know me. >> there is that really strong hint of arrogance, and eagle behind that statement. >> and right away, it was obvious. well he seemed to be enjoying his new role as a notorious criminal. >> well i gotta say is that i want to get home. and i'm going to -- >> yes sir and home eating oregon. >> yes. >> but first things first, the detectives implored where was
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kayleigh sawyer. , we had not been able to find killer -- can you please help me find her body immediately before we start talking about anything else? >> the reason why masking you that is because i've done this a bunch of times -- >> i want to tell you where the bodies. >> and so he went to work. drawing a crude map. >> that's 1:26 highway. >> when. >> that's going towards salem. >> he dumped or along a highway, he said. ten miles outside of redmond. >> there is a mailbox right here that reads one eight seven zero zero. >> really? one eight seven zero zero. isn't that a significant number. >> it's significant because the california coast for murder homicide is one 87. >> just about then, as the detectives were talking to, the
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county back in oregon found the car that he had taken from his parents. and the no inside, of which he ridden repeatedly, one eight seven zero zero. >> how do you been toying with them? playing games? >> i want to be calk, who left a call signal for homicide, in a note. was it an address or was it just what the hell was it. >> and that is exactly what we are thinking. that is something that he spent time developing and looking for. and it just so happened to fit his desire to hide her body. behind it in a way that he is not hiding his body of work from the public. he wants it seen eventually. >> detective beckwith, got on the phone with oregon. >> he said it's directly across from the mailbox on the south side of the highway. >> they went to look, and just like that -- >> it's about five minutes after that, we located kaylee sawyer.
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here is where she was, or ravine just off the highway. >> and kaylee sawyer, family got the call that they dreaded. >> the last time that i got to kiss my baby girl on the forehead was through a black body bag. >> we asked when we could see her identify the body, and they would not let us see her. their words were, you cannot see her because she's unrecognizable. >> unrecognizable is the haunting word. how do you accept that? >> kelly's mom, couldn't bring herself to visit the morgue. >> i just knew that if i went i'm i climb up on that table with her. and notley. >> that can joe with the detectives, he seemed pleased to have an audience, and had decided to reveal more, and
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worse. like the reason why we kaylee sawyer body was unrecognizable. he was in his cruiser he told her, that central oregon community college, the cruiser that look just like a real police car, in a uniform that made him look just like a real policeman. and along came kayleigh sawyer. after that argument with her boyfriend. >> i just turned and, i mean i didn't hear that hard, i just bumped or with the patrol car. >> an accident? >> that's what he told his wife isabelle the morning he left and when he claimed in the note he left behind in this car. >> he kind of stuck to that, i hitter with the car story for a little bit. >> you knew it wasn't true? >> we knew it was untrue, we knew it was easy to get past that. >> how? >> remember the detective, former pastor, had searched her house the previous day and found his bible. the evidence of his apparent
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devotion to the church. the hook, he now could see that this very moment. >> i was in your house. i saw the bible i saw the thumb through it a lot. i see that you tended through months of it a lot. >> it revealed the way the pastor would, that some 24, clean hands, and pure heart -- >> i said to clean one hand when you wash your hands, or do you clean them both. >> he said both. >> so now is your time to tell me the real story because what you just said, didn't happen that way. and he brings to describe to my shock and quite frankly tear listening to the things that he had done. >> the truth, he said, was that when he saw kelly that night he knew she was the one. the one he'd be looking for. a familiar urge, his urged to kill the beautiful woman.
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>> he saw her as a target the moment he laid eyes on her. so he cruised alongside kaylee sawyer, excited, got out of his cruiser, in his cop like uniform, trying extra hard to look safe, hiding is ugly intentions. >> mr., law offered him a ride, and she refused, she didn't want to ride for him >> so i panicked and i grabbed her by the throat. i told her to shut up, shut up, shut up. and then she passed out. >> in his word, he put her in the car. he opened the door, she didn't get in willingly. he put her in. there >> was a detour then? >> he took her cell phone from her. he told us that he knew he felt a sense of relief once he took the cell phone. she was completely under his control in a vehicle that he can't escape from. >> can't escape because the campus car had a security cage in the backseat. just like a real police car.
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then with kelly unconscious, he drove up the hill to a secluded parking lot. be 12. what >> he said she became cunning to and begin to fight. she started to call through the plexiglass glass, the backseat. she was trying to turn emergency lights on. trying to grab the emergency lights. turn on the horn. because she knew -- >> so i grabbed, like in a chokehold. and i was telling her to shut up shut up shut up. she was just struggling to scream. so i threw her down, and i hit her with a rock on the head. >> the rock, he saved, and swirled away like a trophy in his backyard shed. >> and he decides at that point, that he does want to sexually assault her, and he sexually assaults or their wall she's dying, and drags her up behind a tree, and finishes the job,
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with the big 60 70 pound rock roughly i think she, died because i heard her breathing. her last breath. >> afterwards, he told him. he felt bad about what he did. >> she was really nice girl. she didn't deserve related to her. >> laura's confession continued for six hours. , they asked if he wanted to call someone. he said, could i call the media? >> what's a have a press conference? about what's in heaven's name. >> it was shocking to me, to hear him say that. >> detectives believed, they had him. nothing could've been further from the truth. coming up, a question from a killer. that could let him walk free. >> well that had to be a bad day. >> it was. it was so hard. >> when dateline continues.
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vigil. all around people gathered, most of them silent, in disbelief. they had planned this in hope, as they searched. during those two, days the whole town seemed to adopt kayleigh sawyer. they took to calling her bends daughter. but now she was dead. and unbelievably, at the hands of a security guard, at the local community college. edwin lara. sort of thing that gives a cop nightmares. >> i can imagine my own, kid my own daughter, how walking in to have someone stop and her dad's a cop, and she might associate that with being someone of safety and security interest. and then, in a moments, like
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that. he takes all from her, using just when he's wearing, it's disgusting. >> it's also very unsettling. >> it's is unsettling as it gets. >> you have to wonder a lot, what would possess him to be so apparently devoutly religious, and you want to be a cop, and want to be an upstanding member of society, but at the same time he had this stuff going on. >> i still wonder about that to this day. for him to go from no criminal history, to the most severe criminal history in a matter of three days. it's alarming. >> so, what to do with a man like edwin lara now, charged with aggravated murder and kidnapping another crimes. it was the da his job to decide. >> if the facts in this case, did not warrant a sentence of death, then i in essence would have been in saying no crime
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ever would be appropriate for the death penalty. and i decided to ask the jury to impose the sentence of death. >> and so they prepared for trial. they went over and over all that, happen minute by minute, the interviewed, in reinterview witnesses. poured over the physical evidence, they examined in minute detail, laura's six-hour confession. in short, he'd been red is rates. >> you have the right to remain silent. >> detectives even went the extra mile and random is counselor rates, even though it was a permanent legal resident, he was born in honduras. >> would you like to notify the consular office at this? time >> now. >> it was quite a bit later they discovered one bit of video have been overlooked somehow. it did turn up for months. >> mind you it did exactly jump out, why he set off camera, almost as in the side. >> is my lawyer most year?
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>> no it's sheer right to request a. lawyer okay. >> so when you get your phone, calls you can request a lawyer. >> and that was, it the moment passed. although entitled phone calls, he did not ask again. and did not phone anyone. >> so there is a hearing. the judge listed two defense arguments, that at the moment he asked about a lawyer, he invoked his right to counsel. and all question should've stopped. and tossed out his confession. all of it. every word. >> while that had to be a bad day. . it was it was so hard. >> it's hard to take? >> yes it's very hard to take. and it's something we will live with, and we do live with every day of our lives. to the time they put me under the grass, i'm going to have a hard hollow heart, -- >> there was other evidence beside his confession. like kayleigh's person shoes.
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in the rot covered in her, blood all found in his backyard shed. and her blood inside his security company car. and on her body, evidence that she fought hard to survive. >> she left behind evidence that was incredibly damning. she had his dna under her fingernails. >> investigators encouraged the da, do not lose faith. push ahead,. -- they said, look we got. this we can do this. if we had thought it was a death penalty case before, there's no reason to back down now. >> except, then everything changed. again. coming up, disorder in the court. and a phone call with the killer. >> hang on a second, you have to explain that to me a little bit. what are you suggesting? >> when dateline continues.
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girl and she didn't deserve what i did to her. >> and when told the whole story. no little, nothing hold back. and not avoid of it would be heard by any jury, any time. inadmissible. so as prosecutors prepared even without that confession, to ask a jury to give him the death penalty. his defense team asked for a meeting with the da, made an offer. laura would plead guilty, to a sentence of life without parole. but with kelly's family -- a retired judge sat down with katie's mother, and told her what desired result would almost certainly be. >> he explained to me what happens in a death penalty case,
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and the appeals, as long as he is living on death row, i would be too. >> tough choice. >> yes. >> i would've had to show up to every appeal. >> until family members stuck down their grief and anger and said, make the deal. >> on the january day of 2018, judgment day arrived for edward mourn, the courtroom was packed, the first row filled shoulder to shoulder with members of the major crimes team. scattered in the gallery behind, kaylee sawyer, large extended family and many friends. her boyfriend cameron reimhofer, at the defendants table edward. and also in the courthouse that day, the young woman who was charged with kidnapping during his getaway. >> this was the first time i had seen him since everything it happened. it was just hard even sitting
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there because i could see him trying to look over here. >> there was something in the air that day. >> -- you have no idea how much we irreversible damage this piece of -- has done to my extended family. and i want to -- pal >> finally it was time for everyone to speak. what would he say. >> god almighty, who art in heaven, i'll ask you please, heal the hards all those broken heart. >> papa jim quite thoroughly disgusted, stormed out of the courtroom. >> i ask you please, heal the heart of this family. >> they felt like it was staged. and in retrospect i wish i had the courage to stand up in tone to turn around. because all those people had to sit there and watch that have been, like a show. >> and may kaylee sawyer rest
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in peace. >> the death sentence, even if they cared about, may have been too quick for him. you know, he's gonna die a lot slower death. >> you may recall, right after his capture, asked if he could call the media. an honest desire to explain? >> hello, i don't? >> yes. >> we were skeptical. so on may 2019, we call this blood. >> i understand that you've been wanting to tell your story for sometime. but was he serious about explaining himself? no. instead, he floated a stay little conspiracy theory about his bank statements. yes i wish they would've gone into my statement, my bank statements, every time i stayed in oregon, but they never did. right now i'm like, frustrated with that. well but at this point on, if you don't have nothing to say
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-- >> hang on the second, you have to explain that to me, what are you suggesting? >> when they look into it, they'll be able to figure it out. >> figure out what? >> there's a lot of things. right now i don't have anything to say. >> and with that laura's conversation with us was over. of course we check, and of course his bank statements like everything else about him had been examined in infinite detailed and there was just nothing to look at their. and a little charade in our phone call? who knows why. but with a dwayne sentence and safely tucked away in prison, did kayleigh's family simply turned the page? oh no, not even close. and he still had to answer for one more thing. what he did to andrea maze. >> coming up. >> central oregon community college, has some community for kaylee sawyer death. they were a lot of
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sawyer 2015 murder, everyone worked their way through the stages of grief. anger, bargaining, depression. but their final stage, acceptance, the way this crime occurred, not a chance. >> i would've never been able to tell my daughter you're a monster, your bogeyman will pull up alongside you in a car that looks like a police officer's car. and he will get out, and he will be dressed like a police officer. >> and kaylee sawyer family
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believe that the crime committed ball on the job at a campus security officer was aided and abetted by the community college that supplied his cop like uniform and vehicle. the proxy used in the kidnap that killed kaylee sawyer. da john humble, >> the community college had some responsibility for the death of kaylee sawyer, they bear a lot of responsibility for her death. >> why? because it turned out that as a camp it's a security guard, we edwin lara, had underground no background checks. no psychological tests. and none of the chaining required that real police officers in oregon require. and yet so cc had given the police uniform to make arrest, and traffic stops, and to investigate crimes. actions the da and other lawn officers had repeatedly demanded that the college stock. even before we kaylee sawyer murder. >> how would you react to these
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demands? >> they would say that they think they are legally allowed to do. it >> kaylee sawyer's family filed a civil rights lawsuit against the community college. >> do you solemnly swear -- >> depositions were taken of the campus security director, the boss. who had overseen many changes. >> when you first arrived here, did safety officer carry handcuffs? >> they did not. >> and what did they reveal about his behavior prior to katie's murder? it was horrifying. >> and they were like, oh here, look at this. >> fellow security officers testified one by one. how he showed them pornographic videos, scarring himself. how he sent inappropriate text messages to them, showcasing his obsession with dead bodies. and more. >> his behavior changed so much so that i felt like i was trapped. >> the family's attorney, tim williams, >> he had physically
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pinned a female cadet within the building of cpf and forced her to reveal her religious beliefs in great detail. >> those are the who -- wear red flag was invented. >> yes that is well understood. >> they were disturbing depositions. >> and julie somehow sat through everyone. >> it was really hard because at the end of these depositions, they all asked to come and say something to me. they would have tears in their eyes, and a lot of them just kept apologizing. and i could've asked them at that point, why didn't you say something. but then i saw the hurt and the guilt in their eyes. and i didn't want to add which -- i did not want to add to that. >> the college admitted to no wrongdoing. but agreed to a 2 million
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dollar settlement to keep kaylee sawyer the family, the maximum allowed in oregon. >> they declined our request for an interview. but issued a statement saying in part, ceos cc sends our deepest sympathies to the family and friends of kaylee sawyer. and noting its commitment to safety. the college then listed the changes it's made since kaylee sawyer's death, like altering vehicle design, and uniforms. and implementing background checks, and criminal history tricks for hot officers. >> it's because of kaylee sawyer that that kept this is safe. and that makes me feel good. >> but was the family done? oh no. >> we are going to head to call the senate judiciary -- >> they put the legislator to pass kaylee sawyer law, to require background chants on security officers, and to implement a lot of other checks. in 2019, kaylee sawyer law was
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signed into law by the judge. >> in the heart of their tragedy, kaylee sawyer was, family stepped up and said we're going to make sure every young person does not have to go through what our young daughter did. >> but there was still the matter of that other women. who went through their own hell with edwin lara. on jammies. how he hunted her, caught her, terrorized her. -- it was something out of a horror movie which she endured, said one prosecutor. sometimes it all overwhelmed her. >> there are days where i wake up and i just really don't want to talk to anybody, i don't want to do anything. and so as she waited more than a year for her case to make a slow way through the legal system. andrea threaded over whether or not to be in federal court when lauren was finally sentenced to prison for terrorizing her. -- whether to say something.
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but then in 2019, at the courthouse in eugene oregon, there she was. >> i just didn't want to look back, ten years from now, and regret not coming or not seeing anything. >> and so andreas summed up every ounce of courage and set her piece to his face. no cameras in this courtroom so she told us what she said to him. in court, i'm not a victim, i'm a survivor, i'm a warrior, i defeated him, and i'm truly blessed. >> for his crimes against andrea's, a federal judge handed laura another life princeton sentence. well are also agreed to plead guilty to a host of california charges related to his crimes free. edwin lara, his wife isabelle who was never charged with any wrongdoing's, filed for divorce. resigned from the police department and moved away. well perhaps this is set for
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the madness in such a terrible story. andrea has struck up a relationship with kaylee sawyer father and the family. it's been good for them. and good for her. what >> i'm freezing. >> well look for kayleigh? >> yes. >> in the years after, kelly's grandparents visited the library. we're graham read books to kaylee sawyer, now memorialized on the sidewalk. >> we kaylee sawyer can, from grandma sharon. >> her family has her ways of coping. well and who's to say what's the right way. maybe julie's. now that the court cases depositions and lawsuits are finally over. >> every morning i wake up and i love her more and more each day just like i did when she was here. you know, i have gotten to the point sometimes where i look at a picture and i smile and i am
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