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boston's first female mayor, and will minneapolis effectively ax the city's police department? i'm hallie jackson in washington and we'll have more on election day in a minute. we're waiting to hear from president biden. he is overseas with a news conference scheduled to begin just about 30 minutes from now. here is josh lederman. if there's one thing i remember from my traveling overseas with previous presidents, it's that timing can be wiggly. we'll hear from president biden in this news conference format shortly and there's a lot to get to him on. you've worked ton five big things to watch. tell us what your expectations are as we wait to hear from president biden after his second foreign trip in office here. >> that's right. usually speaking of wiggly, usually these things start late. in this case it looks like it could start early. top of mind for everyone today, hallie, is the news back in washington, frankly. we have not heard from president
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biden about senator joe manchin since he came out yesterday, dropped a bomb into the whole situation with the president's spending bill which is not only important for so much of president biden's domestic agenda but also frankly the climate provisions that are key to the claims that president biden has been making here in scotland about how the u.s. is going to be able to deliver on its climate commitments. and so people want to know from president biden, did he think that senator joe manchin really was on board which president biden seemed to indicate before he left. given the fact that manchin now is really hard to pin down on this. of course a lot of interest also in the gubernatorial race in virginia tonight and those other elections that we are watching which not only have significant implications for the democrats going into the midterms next year, but also are being seen in a way as something of a
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referendum on president biden himself, given the way we've watched the president's poll numbers seem to diminish in recent days and weeks. and beyond that, a lot of interest in covid-19 which is not a topic the president has gotten to address as much on this trip as he's been focused on economics globally during the g-20 in rome. of course his meeting with the pope and now here in scotland dealing primarily with climate change. although he's had other meetings on the sidelines. a whole lot of critical topics we're looking to hear from, from president biden when he speaks shortly. >> and a lot of moving pieces, too, josh. one of the things you mentioned right at the top here, the social spending package. something president biden had hoped to leave for this overseas trip with, with an agreement in hand. that has still proven illusive. you have to think that's something he's going to get asked about here. >> reporter: absolutely. because as president biden was leaving, you know, he had made no secret of the fact before coming to europe that he wanted
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that deal signed into law. if not signed into law, he wanted at least a vote on it where he could come to europe and say, look, my climate legislation is as good as done. he didn't have a vote on that. if he didn't have a vote on that, he at least wanted to say, look, i have all the democrats in my party behind this. it's a matter now of dotting the "i"s and crossing the "t"s. there's more uncertainty now. today, manchin seems to be a little bit softer, seeming more inclined to support something than he was yesterday when he seemed to be saying, i could take it or i could leave it. that's given white house officials some hope today. they have continued to point to this notion that the concerns that manchin raised about the spending package are ones they feel aren't something he needs to be worried about, that ultimately manchin will come around to the view that concerns about inflation, about the effects on the debt are
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addressed by this bill and he will get behind it. but, again, there's just so much resting on this one bill in terms of biden's ability to deliver on the things that he is both promised to the american people and, frankly, promised to all of these partners and allies here in europe. >> josh traveling with president biden overseas this evening. thank you very much. one of the things that josh mentioned of the key issues that president biden may talk about at that news conference set to begin in about 25 minutes, could be earlier. we'll bring it to you live. it was about the domestic politics back here at home, including the virginia and new jersey governor's races and we're watching every minute of today's voting. especially in that virginia gubernatorial race. this is a contest, right, that has some potential implications for the biden agenda, for next year's midterms, and even maybe for a donald trump comeback. here are three things to watch with four hours to go when the polls close in virginia. will the democratic base come
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out in numbers needed to seal the deal for terry mcauliffe. how much blame will the former president get after the tally. will there be a republican bounce back in the suburbs or will they stay blue? we'll talk about that coming up with chuck todd in just a second. chuck todd is with us too, host of "meet the press," and mark murray breaking it all down. you're out with the voters, let's start with you. what are you hearing? >> reporter: if you wanted to gauge which way the political current is moving, you would come to virginia beach that went first for trump and then to biden. we're seeing that republican voters are voting strongly on this issue of education, of the notion that parents need to have more control of a backlash to a
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quote that was a little bit taken out of context about parents not belonging in the classroom and the control of their children's education. but it's also the focus of dueling adds for both candidates. for democrats when you talk to them, they also echo the argument that terry mcauliffe has been making about glenn youngkin, being an accolade of donald trump. they talk about republican governors and how they've handled covid and women's reproductive rights. and we have a sound bite from both sides of voters. take a listen. >> the important issues this year was education, first, got to make sure we have the right people doing the right things for our education. we should play a big part in our kid's education. >> the biggest issue is what we're going about the pandemic. the situation with the -- abortion. i have in the past voted democrats, but sometimes i do -- if somebody has a better policy or something like that, i may go
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over. but normally democrat. >> reporter: so in a sentence, hallie, to sum it up, the question is how many republicans are coming home, those suburban women, and how many democrats are sitting it out? we know that terry mcauliffe is in an all-out last-minute drive, particularly to get younger african-american voters out to vote. they've got a major turnout operation. mcauliffe campaign told me earlier today that by the end of today, they will have knocked on half a million doors in four days and we've already seen a record-smashing number of voters in early turnout. but it's really hard to interpret what that means. republicans have also been telling their voters to get out and vote early. hallie? >> stand by for us there in virginia beach. chuck, let me go to you. i know you're juggling about 10,000 things but we're glad to have you and the way you and your team have framed this election. math seems to be on the side of democrats and momentum seems to be on the side of republicans.
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and the mystery of what happens and the first clues come when we get exit polls in just under two hours. what are you looking for? >> how many biden voters are voting youngkin. ultimately that would -- that to me is the mystery. when you put your three things up there. the math tells me one thing based on if 95% of biden voters vote mcauliffe and 95% of trump voters vote youngkin, then it is a turnout issue. and the balance could be just enough that gives youngkin this. the math is difficult for youngkin without persuading some biden voters to vote for him. i want to see of that 2020 vote, is it double digits? i think for youngkin to pull this off, he needs to be in the double digits of biden voters, somewhere in that 10% to 15% range of biden voters. in the exit poll, that could be a clue to find.
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in an actual election results, the first county that i think will be the most complete county reporting that isn't in northern virginia will be chesterfield county, which is the suburban county of richmond. that's a county that if youngkin wins, he carries that county. he can -- it's hard to imagine mcauliffe carrying the county and losing the state. i do think chesterfield will be -- there's not many bellwethers in the state. chesterfield is as close to having one as we can find. >> i appreciate that you're going to be keeping your eyes on that. tonight on nbc news now. we'll let you go. mark murray, let me go to you. what are we looking for once the polls close? talk us through what you're seeing so far. >> let me emphasize just how close this race has been overall. and you end up looking at the real clear average and the candidates are almost locked in a dead heat right now.
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and the real clear average ends up looking at high quality polls and some not so high quality polls. the last high quality poll from "the washington post" had terry mcauliffe ahead. when we actually start getting -- chuck was talking about the 2020 performance. here in virginia, we have to actually remind you that, you know, joe biden ended up carrying virginia by 10 percentage points. importantly, 450,000 more votes than donald trump. so when you end up looking at that, glenn youngkin's challenge. he's -- to be able to win, he's got to make up a lot of ground. when we look at some of the competitive areas, northern virginia, this is going to be terry mcauliffe's base. for glenn youngkin to be able to win, he has to chip into those democratic margins that we saw in 2017 and 2020. just in the virginia beach, norfolk area.
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this is an area that joe biden won narrowly. for glenn youngkin to win, he's got to win this area. and there are some signs that democrats have been worried about the situation in virginia beach. and chuck was talking about chesterfield and the entire richmond suburbs. this is really been a lot of the swing area of virginia for the last presidential cycles and, again, glenn youngkin's really got to cut into those margins. as we're looking into the results coming in to tonight, i'm looking at those localities and also just stressing that we're going to get a lot of early ballots, we're going to get day-of ballots. we have to wait and see when all the vote is in, then kind of weigh what we saw versus 2017, 2020, and 2013 when terry mcauliffe barely won that governor's race. >> you make an important point here. this may be a long night. it may not be. but it may be. talk about the importance of kind of waiting to see some of this stuff and what your thoughts are as far as how much
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into the morning you and i and others may be talking about this race. >> traditionally, virginia has been a fast vote-counting state where they can actually get things wrapped up by 10:00, 10:30 or so. always we've been waiting for those northern virginia suburbs to come in, usually traditionally being the last. the guidance that we're getting from our decision desk is that, wait a second, there have been changes in how virginia is going to report on things. there's been more than a million early votes so far. they might be coming in early in some localities, they might not be in other places. because of the mixture of early votes, day-of votes, how they're coming in and being reported by individual counties, the guidance that we're all getting is, let's be really cautious. let's see all the vote come in and then we can actually start looking to see who's ahead and who's not. >> mark murray, thank you. i want to go back now overseas. i understand that president biden has emerged onto the stage for his news conference. let's listen in. >> i think we got a lot done. we have a lot of good
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substantive meetings. with my fellow leaders and most of all it was critically important for the united states to be here. at cop-26, back in the paris agreement, raising domestic climate ambitions and demonstrating the commitment to support the rest of the world, particularly those countries that are on the front lines of the climate crisis. today i spoke with leaders of forested nations, island nations, developing countries. my message is the united states is going to be their partner as we meet this climate crisis. i want to thank the united kingdom and prime minister johnson for hosting us, hosting the world at a critical moment as well as i met with prince charles who has put together a significant operation over the last six, seven years of trying to bring in the private sector to work on a number of these issues. glasgow must start -- you're tired of hearing me say it -- a
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divisive decade of action. so we can keep the limit of 1.5 degrees within the reach of less than the rest of the world. we have to keep accelerating our progress. today's agreement by more than 100 countries represent 85% of the world's forests and reverse deforestation by 2030 is a great example, great example of the kind of ambition that we need and the united states is proud to have initiated and supported it. we're going to keep raising the ambition and delivering the goal that we're reducing u.s. emissions by 50% to 52% as secretary kerry has talked about from the 2005 levels by 2030. this decade we have to make significant progress. i can't think of any two days that more has been accomplished dealing with climate than these two days. overall the past two days, i've
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announced a series of i really appreciates -- initiatives to make sure we hit the two new rules to hit methane losses and from natural gas pipelines. thanks to the effort of our joint effort with the eu, we've grown global methane pledge and raised it when i spoke to the united states from nine countries signing onto that pledge in september at the united nations. more than 100 countries have signed on. it's about half the world's methane emissions. 70% of the world's global gdp. we made commitments to remote climate smart agricultural, capitalize finance for a clean economy, to drive resilient infrastructure through the build back better initiative. we had a great meeting today where we sat and talked about the whole focus of my build back
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better initiative which is adopted by the g-7 was that everything should be focused on as we help with the infrastructure of the rest of the world which needs it badly, focused on climate, climate. the example is, if you build an oil well -- excuse me, if you build a gas -- or oil refinery, you're going to have that for the next 30 years. well, why not invest now if we're going to provide for the help for nations in -- in solar capacity or wind capacity. so the point is, although -- we also brought through the new president's emergency plan for adaptation and resilience. we called it -- i'm getting tired of acronyms. it's called prepare. we also released our overall long-term strategy that outlines how we'll get to net zero, net zero emissions by 2050. we know that this is -- this
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must be a whole-of-society effort. i also want to thank the representatives from the private sector and labor, philanthropy and civil society. that leadership together with action by state and local and tribal governments has been essential in the united states. that's why despite the previous administration pulling us out of the paris agreement and refusing to acknowledge there was a climate crisis, we still brought down emissions during that period. i also want to acknowledge the passion and power of the young people and the activists who are doing such vital work to remind us of our moral obligation to future generations. look, as i said yesterday, it's not just a moral imperative. it's an economic imperative as well. investing in our clean energy future is an enormous opportunity. enormous opportunity for every country to create good-paying jobs and spur a broad-based
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economic recovery. you've heard me say it before, when i think of climate crisis, i think of jobs. and that's what the build back better framework will do for the american people. it's going to bring historic investment in clean energy addressing the climate crisis. it's going to cut greenhouse gas emissions by well over a gigaton, it's going to save consumers money on their energy bills with tax credits for things like installing solar panels and weatherization of their homes. it's going to provide manufacturing credits to make sure the united states is competing in energy markets of the future like solar panels and wind turbines. it's going to accelerate electric vehicles and electric school buses and build a nationwide network of 500,000 charging stations to power them. it's about jobs. it's about competitiveness versus complacency. it's about making the world a place for our children and children all around the world to look to the future in a way that
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they can't now. and so there's so many other things that have happened today that i feel good about. but let me start, if you will -- i'll be happy to take your questions. phil? you got a question? watch you on tv a lot. >> thank you very much, mr. president. your disappointment with chinese actions with climate in rome and also the lack of willingness for chinese president xi jingping so show up at cop-26. when you assess where things stand right now in u.s./china relations after your first ten months in office, your diplomats have had difficulty engaging in a substantive manner with some of their counterparts. you have a chinese military that has tested a hypersonic missile this summer, being its nuclear capability. that's your assessment of where things stand and are you concerned that the potential for
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armed conflict has grown over the course of your first ten months in office? >> well, let me start off by addressing the first part of -- if not the question, the statement. and that is that i indicated that china and russia not showing up in saudi arabia was a problem. we showed up. we showed up. and by showing up, we've had a profound impact on the way i think the rest of the world is looking at the united states and its leadership role. i think it's been a big mistake, quite frankly, for china not showing up. the rest of the world is going to look to china and say what value added are they providing? and they've lost the ability to influence people around the world and all the people here at cop. the same way i would argue with regard to russia. with regard to the more profound question about -- am i worried about an armed conflict accidentally occurring with china.
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no, i'm not. but i have had as i've said before -- and i think we've talked about this, phil, but i may be mistaken -- that i think -- as i've said, i look at china -- and i've had hours of conversations with xi jingping both in person when i was vice president and since i've been president, at least five or six hours worth of conversations on the telephone, and i'm going to be having a virtual summit with him. i've made it clear this is competition. it does not have to be conflict. there's no reason there needs to be conflict. but i've also indicated to him so i'm not reluctant to say it publicly that we expect him to play by the rules of the road. we're not going to change our attitude toward international air space, international sea lanes, et cetera. we also made it clear that we have to work on dealing with things like cybersecurity and a
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whole range of other issues. but i -- i'm not looking for, i don't anticipate there will be a need for -- physical conflict, but, you know, as you've heard me say this before, my dad has an expression. he said the only conflict worse than the one that's intended is one that's unintended. and so my meetings with him virtually coming up -- we haven't set the exact date yet. i want to make sure there's no misunderstanding. it's competition, not conflict. and so there's no unintended. peter? >> reporter: mr. president, you're touting on this visit, you're $1.75 trillion plan that includes climate. but your party is still not united behind it. senator joe manchin yesterday called it budget gimmicks and a recipe for economic crisis. today he said he never signed off on the framework.
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do you have a specific commitment from senator manchin to support your build back better bill, yes or no, and how do you respond to those criticisms? and i have a quick follow up. >> number one, i'm not going to talk about the specifics of my conversations. he will vote for this if we have -- in this proposal what he has anticipated and that is looking at the fine print and the detail of what comes out of the house in terms of the actual legislative initiatives. i believe that joe will be there. with regard to the issue of whether or not he thinks that he's worried about this being inflationary or going to be negatively impacting the economy, i think that i made it clear to joe and will continue to that as -- i apologize, peter, but 17 nobel laureates and economics that it's going to lower inflation, raise wages, increase competition, create 2
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million jobs a year, et cetera. and so i think that i understand joe is looking for the precise details to make sure nothing got slipped in in terms of the way in which the legislation got written that is different than he acknowledged he would agree to. but i think we'll get this done. >> you mentioned the word inflation there. you recently said you have no short-term answer to bring down gas prices. it's not just gas prices. rents are up, the cost of everyday items are up. inflation in the u.s. is at a 13-year high. when specifically should americans expect those prices to come down? >> well, look, first of all, a significant reason why prices are up is because of covid affecting the supply chain. i know -- i'm not trying to be -- i know you know this. number one. number two, if you take a look
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at, you know, gas price and is you take a look oil prices, that is a consequence of, thus far, the refusal of russia or the opec nations to pump more oil. we'll see what happens on that score sooner than later. number three, i think if you take a look at what we're talking about, look to this coming thanksgiving. we're in a situation where we find that we are in a very different circumstance. last thanksgiving, you know, i -- as i said this year, we're working on supply chain issues. last thanksgiving i sat down with my wife, my daughter and my son-in-law. this thanksgiving we're all in a different circumstance. things are a hell of a lot
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better and the wages have gone up higher -- faster than inflation. and we have generated real economic growth. it doesn't mean these dislocations aren't real. they do affect people's lives. for example, one of the reasons why i decided to talk about the need to deal with the operation and the gouging that occurs in some of the pricing of beef and chicken and other things is that that's why i think -- that's why i indicated to you we're going to look at whether or not there's a violation of antitrust laws and what they're doing. so there's a lot to look at. but the bottom line is that i think that -- anyone who would prefer as bad as things are in terms of prices helping -- hurting families now, trade this thanksgiving for last thanksgiving.
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jen epstein, "wall street journal" -- excuse me. >> bloomberg. >> i got it. especially since my granddaughter works for you guys in a different circumstance. i'm in trouble. >> reporter: i'm going to ask a very bloomberg question to begin which is have you decided who you will nominate to chair the federal reserve board? if not, can you speak a little bit about what you're thinking about as you consider your choice for fed chair and the other seats that are open? this is the latest that a president has gone without nominating somebody the year before a nominee needs to be selected and are you concerned about potentially have a short timeline especially if you're not going to renominate jay powell? >> no, no and no. no, i'm not going to discuss it with you because we'll make those announcements fairly quickly. it's been in train for some time, number one.
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number two, i also would indicate that i think we're going to have plenty of time to make sure all the major nominees are able to be cleared in time where their terms would expire. and number three, i've given a lot of thought to it. i've been meeting with my economic advisers on what the choices are. but i'm not going to speculate now. nancy, cbs. i think you had your hand up. i'm sorry, did you? >> thank you very much, mr. president. some of the commitments you made here won't happen unless congress passes future legislation. how do you convince republicans and even some democrats to get behind more spending if they look at this conference and say, china isn't meeting these global goals, russia doesn't intend to meet the goals, india doesn't
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plan to, why should we? >> because we want to be able to breathe and lead the world. i mean it sincerely, the fact that china trying to assert, understandably, a new role in the world as a world leader, not showing up, come on. the single most important thing that's got the attention of the world is climate. everywhere. from iceland to australia to -- i mean it just is a gigantic issue. and i've walked away. how do you do that and claim to be able to have any leadership now? the same with putin and russia. you know, his tundra is burning. literally the tundra is burning. he has serious, serious climate problems, and he is mum on the
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willingness to do anything. and so i genuinely believe -- i mean this from the bottom of my heart. when i said at cop -- excuse me at the g-7 that america was back, you know, people wondered, well, is that really true? we're able to change the dynamic of a lot of things coming out of the g-7. i think -- this is going -- what i'm about to say sounds -- two world leaders came up to me today and said thank you for your leadership. you're making a big difference here. you're moving people. i think you and i talked about that, john, with one of the folks talking to us. and so i think the fact that america showed up, america showed up and decided to lay out clearly what it wished to do. for example, you know, as i said, the mere fact that we were able to go from seven or eight
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people -- countries talking about maybe -- maybe 14. i don't remember the original number. to deal with the whole notion of methane. now 100 nations have signed on. 100 nations. 100 nations have signed onto reduce methane by 30% by 3030. and methane is 25 times more toxic to the environment than co2. so we're making real progress. the deforestation issue, look what we're doing. look what we've been able to put together. in addition to that, one of the things that i feel the best about -- and i don't claim uniquely any unique credit for it -- but i think we've gotten for the first time a combination of dealing with international problem of that -- circumstances effect all nations that we've not only gotten countries off the sideline in terms of making
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significant financial contributions, but literally, literally trillions of dollars worth of the private sector jumping in knowing they've got to play and they're going to play a positive part in dealing with these problems. it's real. it's genuine. and so i just think that the old bad expression, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. i feel confident we're going to get done what we have to do at home in order to deliver and lastly, you know, if you take a look at what economy is growing? the united states. it's growing. it has problems. mainly because of covid and supply chain. but it's growing. we've created over 6 million jobs. we're leading the world in terms of the fastest growing economy, major economies. so i think, you know, we're going through a difficult time
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in the world because of covid, because of supply chain consequences, because of the environment and all that's occurred, the way it's imploded in the near term. but as i said to you earlier -- and i really mean it -- i think it presents a gigantic opportunity, an opportunity to press the restart button and move in a direction that i think the vast majority of countries -- look, i'm sure you interview other world leaders that are here. the vast majority think this is an opportunity. they're not quite sure exactly what to do, exactly how to do it. not that i have all the answers. i'm not implying that. but they know that. they know that growth rests in dealing with the economy in a way that effects the whole notion of what we're going to do about climate change. it's a gigantic opportunity.
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okay. i call on "the wall street journal," kathryn. i got the wrong one. let's try the real "wall street journal." >> thank you very much. we are the real "wall street journal." mr. president, you tweeted earlier asking virginia and new jersey residents to vote. democrat terry mcauliffe is struggling in a state that you won by ten points. do you see his problems as a rebuke of your presidency and could this signal your real losses for democrats in the midterms? >> we're going to win. i think we're going to win in virginia. and you know you reported it being close, the race is very close. it's about who shows up, who turns out. and granted, i did win by a large margin. but the point of the matter is that i think that this is -- this is going to be what we all knew from the beginning. this is going to be a tight race. and it is tight. get down to turnout and it's going -- my guess is, i'm going to be landing at 1:00 in the
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morning east coast time, that's probably about the time we'll be hearing what the final results are. i think we're going to win new jersey as well. but, look, you know, the off-year is always unpredictable, especially when we don't have a general election going on at the same time. that's been the case up and down -- for a long time, especially as virginians turn more and more blue. having said that, i don't believe -- and i've not seen any evidence that whether or not i am doing well or poorly, whether or not i've got my agenda passed or not -- is going to have any real impact on winning or losing. even if we had passed my agenda i wouldn't claim we won because biden's agenda passed. but i think it's a -- i think it's going to be very close. i think it's going to get down to, as you all know, turnout, and i think that based on what i
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have heard so far, it's awful hard for me to be prognosticating, which i don't like doing as president anyway from overseas, but i think -- i hope that every eligible voter in virginia and new jersey shows up and votes and the more of them that do, the better off our chances are. and i think we're going to -- i think we're going to win. all right. npr, scott? >> reporter: you mentioned climate activists before. i want to ask something about them. the atmosphere around the conference here is skeptical and it's pretty angry. climate activists feel like decades and decades of cops have led to broken promises and they think even if all of these goals are reached, it's just not enough right now. and i'm wondering what you would say to the people outside who are really angry at this conference, especially at this
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moment where joe manchin has expressed, has created more doubt that your climate legislation will pass and you've got a very conservative supreme court about to take a look at whether your epa can regulate greenhouse gas emissions. what's your message to the people outside? >> first of all, i think anyone who is focused on the environment should be worried. we've got a lot more to do beyond what we've done. we've done more than we've ever done, though, that's the point. and more has to be done. and i don't find -- i didn't have a single member of this conference come up to me and say, are you going to pass what you have? what do you think? how is that going to affect and what are you going to do? what they're looking at is what in fact has happened in terms of everything from dealing with deforestation to what we're going to do on build back better and how we've been able to focus now. when's the last time you heard
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world leaders sit down together and agree that what they're going to do is when they deal with the needs of the infrastructure of other countries, that they're going to focus first and foremost on whether or not -- what the climate impact is on that. so i think, look, this is a -- there's a reason for people to be worried. i'm worried. i'm worried if we don't continue to move forward and make the kind of progress we're now making, that it's going -- we throw into jeopardy the prospect that we're going to be able to keep the temperature from rising above 1.5 degrees celsius. but i'm optimistic because i think there's a -- how can i say it? maybe the best way to say it to you, scott, is, what i feel is that the populations of each of
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our countries have a different perspective than they did at cop-25. i think there is -- i mean not because of necessarily any of the leaders of any of our countries, includes mine, that all of a sudden people are seeing these things happening they never thought would happen. they're seeing people drown in their basements in queens new york because of flooding and rain. they're seeing that, you know, more territory burned down in the united states just since the first of the year than it makes up the entire land mass of the state of new jersey. they've seen hurricane with winds of 178 miles per hour. they're looking at these things. they're seeing more -- the water is warming. they're seeing a whole range of things occurring around the world that haven't happened. and it's sort of like, whoa, whoa. because i don't get what i used to get when i started -- there's no reason why anyone would remember this.
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but back when a fine republican was from the state of indiana and he ask i were either the chairman or ranking members of the foreign relations committee. this is over 20 years ago. we ended up proposing and it worked but it got no enthusiasm, a thing for debt for nature swaps. people looked at us like what in the hell are you doing? why are you forgiving the debt so brazil won't burn down more of the forests. why are you doing that so they will do -- now everybody goes, whoa, what else can you do? what else can you do? so i think there's a whole different attitude that's out there. and i think this is being led -- i'm not being solicitous here. i think this is being led by, you know, my granddaughters and their friends, that generation. i think they're out there going, whoa, and they're having a profound impact. having a profound impact on
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their parents and grandparents about what's happening. and then all of these climatic things have happened that people are now paying attention like they never did before. so, you know, there's a lot more to do and it's going to determine whether or not we're going to be able to fund what we're talking about. but, for example, even if the funding didn't come from some of the governments, you have the private sector now engaged when they're talking about investing -- literally, the need to invest trillions of dollars off the sidelines. it's bankers that are knew deciding they got -- i talked a long time ago all about that you have major corporate america pricing in the price of carbon. it matters. so things are changing. we just have to have the right stewardship and enough sense as world leaders to get it right. thank you all so very much. appreciate it.
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>> president biden there leaving the stage in scotland after taking a series of questions at reporters. at the news conference that is closing out his overseas trip as you heard the president allude to. he'll head back to washington in the wee hours of this morning. i want to bring back in josh lederman in scotland traveling with the president overseas. leigh ann caldwell is on capitol hill. you heard the president pretty directly address what's been happening on his domestic agenda. he's in scotland talking about climate. that's clear. we're going to get to josh for a second on that. there's another big question, though, about his domestic agenda back here at home. he is trying to project optimism on that front as well, even with a lot of questions about how this deal on his build back better agenda, that big social spending bill, will come together. the president when he was asked
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specifically by our own peter alexander, our chief white house correspondent, about his conversations with key senator democrat joe manchin, wouldn't get into specifics but he seemed confident that senator manchin would back this bill, would back this deal, depending on the details. those last four words say everything, right, because right now even some of those details haven't been hammered out. tell me what you're hearing, the reaction from you and on the hillside to what the president said. >> senator joe manchin and his support for the legislation has been the question. and president biden and white house officials keep expressing this optimism that senator manchin is going to back whatever legislation is finalized once it comes up for a vote. and that is what is -- that's what progressives are depending on. they have -- they have scaled back their stance in saying that they needed some sort of public support from senators manchin
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and sinema in order to allow these pieces of legislation to move forward. but now they're saying, look, we trust the president, that he's going to be able to get this done. and that's the same thing that president biden just said in his press conference saying that he believes senator manchin will eventually -- will get on board. but there are questions where senator manchin stands. he wants to know how much of this -- how much of this is actually going to cost. wants to see if it's really going to be paid for and he has lots of concerns about inflation and we heard president biden address that inflation point several times saying that he thinks and economists think that this legislation is going to reduce inflation and now all of this comes when there's been a lot of developments just in the past hour up here on capitol hill regarding these negotiations for the build back better plan. there's an agreement on prescription drug pricing for medicare.
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there's also an agreement on the salt tax cap which has been repealed and those two pieces of things -- those two things are apparently in this bill, according to our sources. and so there's dwindling number of issues still to be worked out. but still, this is not a done deal yet, and we don't know where senator joe manchin stands if he's actually going to vote for it, hallie. >> thank you so much. josh, let me go to you. the president is making a number of other headlines. we talked about his portrayal of optimism on some of the climate initiatives that he's coming home with here. but he also talked about issues including chinese aggression. that was one of the questions he got. downplaying the potential risk of armed conflict, but saying he expects china to play by the rules. a lot of international issues for the president to be considering before he heads home here. >> reporter: that's exactly right, hallie. you heard president biden not once, not twice, multiple times during that news conference
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talking about how china didn't show up and who did show up, the united states. and although some of that was in the context of, you know, who is doing what on emissions and who is actually physically here in scotland, there was a broader message that president biden was trying to send there that is part of his broader theme about trying to sort of push back on efforts from china, from russia and these other countries to really expand their influence on a whole lot of other countries. biden trying to make the point that not only is the u.s. back on climate, economic finance after four years of a president who was not interested in engaging with nato, the united nations and these multilateral groups. he's trying to say, look, you have a choice. you can go with china or you can go with us. and who is here trying to cough
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up the money to help other countries deal with climate change? who is here trying to sort out these complicated issues with oil supply and supply chain issues due to covid-19. it's not president xi jingping. it's president joe biden. and i think in that sense, biden has kind of a low bar coming on this trip which was really just to send the message that the u.s. is engaged in a way that other countries can rely on. and based on the comments the president made, he seems to feel like he's satisfied that goal during his trip. >> josh, i'm going to ask you to stand by for a second. mark, i would like you to stand by as well. we have joining us now patty murray of washington. senator, thanks for joining us. i know you've been patient as we've been listening to president biden speak from overseas. we appreciate it. >> no problem. nice to talk to you. >> i got to ask your reaction to what we just heard from president biden talking about his optimism, not just on his agenda as it relates to climate,
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but perhaps more pertinently to what you're dealing with at the moment on the hill, optimism about getting his agenda passed in the form of this reconciliation package that he would like to get through. you could vote maybe the week of the 15th, which is what he's telling our own garrett haake. >> i'm optimistic too. here's why. i think as people in the country realize what's in this bill, they will be behind it 100% and we will be able to move it in the house and senate hopefully as fast as you just suggested. here's what i hear at home is that people are so concerned about the lack of childcare, the cost of childcare, the cost of prescription drugs, the issues that they deal with every day making sure that they can go to work and put food on the table and that's what we address in this bill and as they hear that their childcare costs are going to come down and that as we put this in place and build this childcare system, their child will have a place that we're
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going to have universal pre-k, no caps, no anything. every child in this country, finally, will start education as pre-k so we can have a healthy start, do the smart investments, that we'll be able to lower cos lower the costs for families, i believe we will absolutely get this done. >> you and i have talked before, senator, on the intersection of policy coming from the hill and working parents, working moms specifically. any working parent dealing with this issue of paid leave. we know there has been -- it seems like there has been confusion from senator manchin on where he stands by this. where is your sense of where that ends up in the final package? >> well, i believe family paid leave should be a part of this. if we learned one thing during this pandemic, if you have a sick child or are a brand-new parent or you have a sick parent and you have to be at work because you need an income, we are hurting our families even
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more than they are today. the right response for our families, communities and our economy is to make sure you can stay home with a family member when they are seriously ill or are brand-new baby and know your job will be there and you can put food on the table for a short amount of time. that is what every country around the globe who is ahead of us knows and understands, it's good for their economy. i'm fighting to get this in the last part of the negotiations into this bill again. >> have you talked to senator manchin about it? >> yes, i have. >> recently? like today? >> well, i can tell you that he understands the concept. he is concerned about how to pay for it. we all are. that's what we are addressing with him currently as we speak. >> you mentioned something as far as you wanted to get this done expeditiously. can you give clarity on this? one thing that senator manchin is waiting for is the cbo score.
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sounds like that may be another week or so. is it your sense if maybe things go as they could go in the house, you could vote on this in mid-november? do you see this happening before thanksgiving? >> i think every member of congress and the senate particularly want to know what the costs are. that's the responsibility we have to have. sometimes that takes longer than we want. i know our families are waiting. we want to get this done. we want to let people know what we're fighting for and what we accomplished. i'm confident we'll get it done. >> as it relates to other issues domestically, one thing we're watching, we've been showing the ticker on the bottom of the screen, how many hours until the polls close in virginia. president biden seemed to down play his agenda nationally is having an effect on that race, other races in the country. seems confident of a win but acknowledges it might be tight. do you think it might be hurting democrats in the key state races
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that this ball has not gotten across the finish line? >> well, i know what my constituents want. they want us to know we're fighting for them. that's exactly what democrats are doing right now. there's not one republican that reached out and helped us pass the original bill early this year that helped to make sure we put vaccines into arms. not one republican helped support us get the money to schools so they are now open and our kids are in school. not one republican is reaching out and saying we will help to make sure there is child care that is affordable and quality, we'll make sure that we lower prescription drug prices. we'll make sure that we're fighting for your family to make sure they can go back to work and be productive. so i'm confident that as we -- as people understand what we are fighting for and what republicans are fighting against, this will be a positive agenda for democrats going forward. >> senator patty murray, thanks
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for being back on the show. appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> i want to bring back in josh lederman and scott. >> i want to go back to what president biden and his remarks were talking about with virginia. you and i have been talking so much -- >> for months. >> we ended up hearing a lot of optimism from president biden. also on that virginia contest, when he was asked how will it be? hey, we'll win. then later -- >> he's like it will be close. >> he started out really optimistic, then was still talking about it. you know, when he was also asked about, well, is your standing -- bearing on this race, you just asked that to senator murray as well, i'm a fundamentals guy. the political science shows you how a president is doing, you can end up extrapolating how you'll do the midterms and a race like virginia. tonight, when i'm looking at the exit polls, if joe biden's approval rating in virginia is around 47%, 48%, 49%, that's
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good news by terry mcauliffe. if it's 41%, 42%, 43% for president biden's job rating, that's really bad news. there is a direct bearing on the president's job rating as it relates to these races that we'll be following tonight and the midterms a year from now. >> josh, about a minute left. i want to hit on the economic beat here. that was something critical that president biden addressed as well, not just the topic of inflation, but he said we're better off this thanksgiving than a year ago but also it related to the fed chair and when he may nominate somebody. tbd on that point. >> i think this has been a difficult balance for president biden to strike. on the one hand, he's wanted to reassure people that some of the problems we're seeing are temporary, be it with inflation, which treasury secretary yellen continues to refer to as transitory, and we debate what that means, or with the supply
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chain issues which are causing some problems for people who are unable to get, you know, these semiconductor chips, who will have issues when it comes time for christmas shopping. so the president wants to say, look, don't freak out. this is not as big of a deal long-term as it might seem. he also doesn't want to seem insensitive that people have real economic implications from this now. so he is trying to strike that balance that he gets that people are struggling but these things economically will work themselves out. >> final thought to you? >> i'm looking for the president returning back, seeing what he can end up doing with his reconciliation package and picking up the pieces on what happens in virginia tonight. there's so much for us to crunch over the next 24, 48, 72 hours. >> when he lands, do you think he will know the results of virginia? >> i think so. >> on a limb with that prediction. thank you, josh.
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