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how did you do that? i do it because i have like a good memory because i'm cognitively there. >> all right, look, if you have to insist on tv that you're, quote, cognitively there, well, all jokes aside it looks like governor haley may yet again be flip-flopping here.
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republican glenn youngkin, that was fueled in part by an issue that is completely made up, no joke. critical race theory, or crt. it's not actually being taught in schools in virginia or quite frankly, anywhere else, but it worked for youngkin and republicans areki sure to follo his playbook in the mid terms next fall. it is becoming a running theme,
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no matter how wild a republican gets, there really seems to be no consequences for them. missouri senator gave an impassioned speech about how the left is supposedly trying to, quote, give us a world beyond men" whatever that means. former governor ron desantis scored some cheap poepts with trump's base by using their new favorite slowing app. watch. >> when you look at the biden, the brand and administration -- in terms of -- >> wow. colorado congresswoman lauren bobert wore a dress with a slogan printed on it. it was a hand fisted reference to the tax rich dress that
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alexandria casio-cortez wore. it was actually meant to raise awarenessai for an actual polic intended to help the middle and working class. all your desk did is raise awareness of how little class you actually have. there's florida kmang matt gates. listen to what he said at a campaign event in florida. >> is it c 4 that they want to put in those mettle detectors? >> he doubled down on his comments. you can't fant sies about big league up mettle detectors when can you. he retweeted and said she'd happily provide the explosives. really funny stuff, guys. super appropriate and not at all offensive to the people who were actually killed at the capitol less than a year ago. thisye one really had us
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scratching our heads. remember i told you about glenn youngkin's big win earlier. one person who help him written is his son. he's 17-year-old, unfortunately. fairfax county said his son tried to cast a ballot for his dad not once but twice. spokesperson for youngkin defending this statement writing in part, a 17-year-old kid who honestly misunderstood virginia election lawni and simply asked polling officialske if he was eligible to vote. when he was not, he went to school.nt first, can you imagine if this kid's last name or first name wasla hunter or sasha or malia? it would be leading on every hour on fox news. tucker would do a docu-series about it. seriously. governor elect youngkin, since i know education is so important
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to you and your voters, if you're going to get rid of crt, which again, isn't taught in virginia schools, maybe replace it with lessons of civics. it's worth remembering how easy republicans have it right now. their entiret agenda is essentially to say no to everything. seriously. can you make a single republican policy issue that isn't a culture war?ur the worst part is they're facing absolutely necessity consequences from voterslu for y of this nonsense is that we just showedth you. must be nice, huh? so much to dig into tonight. joining me is an mtv news correspondent and from the good liar's podcast, they have spent a lot ofod time on the campaign trail with trump supporters. their new movie "the supporters"
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is out. it's great to have all of you with us. let me start with you. democrats have been getting a lot of grief for how painful these nogiates negotiations have been. republicans have been sitting back twiddling their thumbs.ir it makes me wonder if democrats are held to a higher standard by the media, by the voters given what we saw play out on tuesday. >> that definitely seems to be the case, ayman, especially when the republicans already set the morality barr on the floor at this floor. democrats also with the standard but doesn't seem realistic. we really also saw that in the virginia governor's race this week where a lot of it, to kind of go backwards, like the fact thatba yes, the republican candidate often made comments
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that were not true, like the brt, which much of the campaign was focused on, as you said, but also with mcauliffe, his campaign was extremely poorly run in that they allowed him to repeatedly campaigning with trump when it simply wasn't the case. he made blatant lies, and at the same time, like the campaign statements, the things that he focused on were simply things that voters do not really care about. like his advertisement calling out a his opponent for being in company that -- he was trying to get people to care about his campaign. while youngkin was appealing over children's education, which yes, it's not guaranteed but it's about caring for your kids and the other is is about celebrities and other nonissues. >> back in april, you had republican representative greghc
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pence, the former vice president's brother tweeting that health is on the way when the pandemic relief bill passed. that was after he voted against that bill. and i'm bringing this up because i'm wondering how many republicans who voted against this infrastructure plan will actually try i to take credit f it, for the improvements that im works to the roads and bridges. i suspect all of them at some point. >> absolutely. they're all going to be cutting ribbons with hard hats on and everything. i think that's just how it goes. they're going to vote against it and then they're going to talk about how, you know, things are improving in their areas and trying to take credit for that. but i think wie been seeing that over and over and over again. i wouldn't expect anything different. i'm glad a few people crossed over the aisle but many didn't. saying things like this is a big
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step towards communism and all l that. let's get people not to vote for it. but sure, when there's a bridge where there needs to be a bridge, they're going to say that they did it, they pushed it forward. none of this surprises me at this point. >> jason, i know -- >>kn awful -- >> i just wanted to get jason's thoughts on this.s i know that you guys in some ways, you've opinion on the front lines of this culture war, kudos to you for toughing it out. that is some brave reporting. honestly, you guys are like the war correspondents of culture wars speaking to republican voters about crt and many of the people you talk to, they can't actually say what it is. one of the main people pushing the idea of a crt takeover has indicated that the term has lost all meaning. why does it get such powerful reaction from people on the right thatn you're speaking to? >> well, the thing i think republicans do a lot better than
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democrats is they run on emotion. they don't run on policy. and people respond to emotion. and you say something like crt and make it seem like it's going to stop parents from being able to teach their kids what they think is the right way, and it resonates with them. now, it just happens that it's completely untrue and they don'n teach that in virginia or in any high school in the united states, basically. but the republicans can run on emotion. we sthee at trump rallies. there is -- the people there are very, very emotional. >> yeah. i was going to ask you how do you keep a straight face when you hear some of the responses that youe get? how do you do it? what's your secret? >> itcr -- in the moment when you're hearing something crazy, it's -- you don't really want to laugh at it because the person who's saying it, if they really believe that john f. kennedy is
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still alive, whether there's a body double for joe biden, i don't know what they're going to do when they find out that i am not their friend in this situation, or they would perceive me as not being a friend. it's more keeping a straight face. >> you want toke get out of the safely. according to theth huffing on t post, you had at least ten republicans who are at the january 6 rally that later turned obviously into a deadly riot. they just got in office at state and local government. they're trying to get off of it on a legality. what does it say that attendance at rally that turned into an insurrection is not a deal breaker for republican voters? >> i mean, i'm -- >> m well, i -- >> yeah, you. >> i mean on the surface, what
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we can see, it's very blatant. our democracy is in trouble when we have the highest lawmakers in thela land going through an actf terrorism in the united states where people hedied, people wer killed. >> they are not being held accountable. it's been repeated so many times. at the same time, i think there's also a severe lack of will from the democratic establishment to hold them accountable to the degree that they can.to right now departments have all of the seats. they have control of most branches of government and they are in charge of the justice department, the very same one that served steven bannon with a subpoena. they can also learn to push. i think this lack of will power is something that is going to hurt us coming into 2022. >> jason, i need you to brace yourself. you talked about conspiracy theory. i've got some news that might be
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shocking for you. the qanon conspiracy theory was wrong about something. >> oh. >> ith know, hard to believe. they gathered in dallas on tuesday. they're expectingon the return john f.rn kennedy who they belie has been hiding for decades. what the hell is going on here, man? explain this to me. how do people believe this stuff? >> that is a great question. we've talked to a lot of people who doof believe that john f. kennedy jr. fake his own death because hillary clinton was goingy to try to murder him wh he washe going to run for senat and he's been laying low top become donald trump's vice president 2020, which is not an election year. i don't know what gets you to that appointed, because there's a lot of like i guess a lot of bridges you have to cross before you make that leap, and i think
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that we should have just told him that heou died on the way dn there and that john f. kennedy died on the way to dallas and that's why he wasn't there and they could move on and be like, ok, he's dead now. we believe he's dead, in their canon, and then they could move on. >> i got to say -- sorry. jason, go ahead. >> no, no. i was going to say that we met a woman on the road at a trump rally who believed that john. kennedy jr. was alive. i bet her a hundred dollars that he wasn't. now, after this -- in dallas he didn't show up. so i think i'm going to get that hundred bucks. i'm pretty excited about that. >> easy bomoney. i got to say one of my favorite parts about the jfk jr. is that he would fake his death for decades, only to come back as a
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vice president. when you're down there and you're speaking to these people, what is going through your mind saying john f kennedy is going to run with the most republican of republicans. it's like even if he is alive, they're not even aware of what the kennedy brand, name represents. >> if he was alive he wouldn't be donald trump's running mate. there's too much logic in that. anything you look for, any threat of logic, it doesn't go anywhere. apparently to a lot of these people, jfk is a real guy who lives in pittsburgh, has a family, works as a fm analyst. there's a real guy that shows up to trump alleys that has stood near trump enough times.ug and if it is jfk jr., it's an incredible disguise. he was seven inches shorter than
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jfk jr. is. it is an actually belief. you can laugh about it if you want, butyo like jason was talkg about, he bet this woman a hundred dollars and she kind of had a smile on her face but then she took the bet. she honestly believed this was going tost happen. she stays up till 3:00, 4:00 a.m. every night, check for screen shots that get gleeted, so she can share them with her friends. it's a world where people feel that they are part of some sort of club that is fighting for good. it's a powerful feeling to be part of something and we can laugh at it and i think we should. it's hilarious. but at the end of the day they're taking it very seriously. >> i was laughing at your use of the term qdrops. yeah. i ask you guys to sit tight. a lot more to discuss.
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don't go anymore. still to come, it's like shark tank but for world hunger. plus aaron rodgers is being dragged onge social media for doing his, quote, own covid research. i'll respond to that but first richard is here with the news. >> eight people including two teenagers died and 13 injured at a houston museum festival. crowds begann to push back and forth before falling on top of one another. along with trampling, it's now a homicide and narcotics investigation. tiger kingsessing star joe exotic announced he has prostate cancer. star is currently serving prison time for twice hiring people to kill his rival carol baskin. pfizer said friday it's
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a wise person once said that money doesn't solve all problems but they probably weren't talking about billionaires. the executive director of the world's food program david beasley says 2% of elon musk's wealth could help solve world hunger. he tweeted out that he would sell shares if the u.n. laid out how it would use this money, essentially his money, to address starvation. beasley said wait a few days, but he tweeted out some early numbers saying that 42 million people across 43 countries are on the brink of famine. so they could use musk's $6 million to providing one meal a day for 42 million people for one year at a cost of less than
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50 cents per person per day. they haven't responded to the latest tweet. i don't know. like nuking mars or trying to get to the moon. who knows? let's welcome back our panel. joining us, principal and founder of relax strategies, a former republican strategist and advisor. rinne, let me start with you. we have a lot of theoretical conversations about how billionaires could spend their money rather than space races. but what do you think about this? is this a good fix? >> it sounds like an incredible thing when you break down the numbers. it sounds like, wow, why can't these billionaires make this one-time investment. this is just how elon musk wins the followers he wants all over these years, not because he's got this wonderful thing called
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tesla which many of us enjoy the fruits of, i still have different thoughts about the guy, but i'll say this. he does it in such a clever way. he almost puts it back in somebody else's face. that's his message. it's a tit-for-tat. he's created a big dog fight. i think really warning people to buy and say open up, how to spend your money. he sport of battles it on the right. are they doing this terrible stuff like we're going to get into conspiracy theory land pretty soon because that's why elon wants this. he wants to call into question how other people spend his money, so i think that's the bottom line. i'm careful to go there. right now it's on hold. i hope that good people do step forward. and let's invest something here. this is a tremendous ask. it could have been all of us to care about a very basic need of
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humanity, which is hunger. >> to that point, it seems like it's semantics with elon musk, because there's no question that $6 billion would do a hell of a lot of good to help with world hunger. you don't have to be -- i get it. you want to criticize the un, i get it. but you go out there be $6 billion and do a lot of good to fight world hunger. it was like he was more trolling the world food program to get more likes on line as rinna was saying? >> he doesn't part with the money. he's making this, you know, this little back and forth in which he's calling all the shots. i have the money, prove it to me that you can use it properly, and i don't know, i kind of think he should have to prove to jason and i to the good liar that he's not a terrible person and i'll be the judge of the he succeeds or not. so i'll issue my own challenge
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to him in the same way that he is to everyone else. just prove to them that they -- that he can -- they can spend the money properly, but how about actually give up the money and prove to us that you're a good person? and you know, maybe we can watch that play out. >> we're going to make sure that elon musk gets tagged in that post. we'll see if he responds to your challenge. >> i would love it. >> oh, yeah. >> now. thanks for listening. >> listen -- >> i have. >> jeff besos has pledged $2 billion at the climate change conference that he sees the world until a new light now that he's been to space. i bet anybody who goes to space will see the world in a new light. do you have any faith that these people are actually changing? >> no. i mean, absolutely not. i mean, if they wanted to solve the world's problems, they could
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solve the world's problems, because money is the thing that solves them for a lot of these things. i mean, just hunger, world hunger. i mean, foot rations, you need supply chain management, you need storage facilities. you need to like build the roads and bridges to get the pood to the people. this is not just dropping food to people. this is making the world decked in a way that we can actually feed people and, you know, if jeff besos wanted to use his drones to deliver food, he could. and he would only use a fraction of his billions of dollars to do that. i wish that, you know, hope it doesn't take going to space for the rest of these billionaires to understand that you should help humanity. right? >> i was going to say if it does, we should find more ways to get billionaires in space asap and they'll come back with
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a different perspective. this is another example of a man who thinks that he knows better than everyone else. mr. aaron rodgers of the green bay packers, quarterback there for the packers. he revealed that he has covid-19 after it was covere i don't know how, but he had actually vaccinated against the virus even though he said he was immunized. he now said he has an allergy to an ingredient in the covid vaccine and is taking i'ver mektin after consulting with joe rogan. here's some of what rogers said. watch this. >> i would have said, look, i'm not, you know, some sort of anti-vax flat-earther. i am somebody who's a critical thinker. >> what do you make of this mess with aaron rodgers? >> first of all, he looks like
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he's doing great. but i guess what i make of it is, you know, pretty bad teammate and i don't think there's any way around that he lied about it. saying i'm immunized and hoping to get away with it i think is like a pretty cheap trick, but at the end of the day, just think it's hypocritical and we should be holding people to a standard and i think he preaches all this stuff about being a good teammate and i think it just watched it play out that he lost a lot of fans. >> and some sponsorship as well. just in case you thought it couldn't get any worse, they decided to bring martin luther king into the fight. take a listen to this. >> he said you have a moral obligation to object to unjust
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rules and rules that make no sense. >> i mean, i can't even imagine what he -- anytime you are trying to invoke martin luther king jr. to make your point and in this case about vaccines, i just don't don't know what to say. what is your reaction to that? >> it's pretty similar to yours, the fact that he basically compared himself to martin luther king jr. to begin with as you know, good for you, buddy, to have that level of confidence. i guess that's also why he feels to confident to do his own research into the science behind the vaccine, and i think there's also a lot to be said about the fact that aaron rodgers seems to have gone down this anti-vax route after talking to joe rogan, who at this point is like the male version of gwyneth paltrow in the celebrity world talking all these answer science conspiracy theories about the vaccine, so i mean, aaron, i am
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sorry you got covid. i had covid. it sucks, but please don't talk to joe rogan. >> and please stop quoting martin luther king jr. when you're talking about covid vaccines. all kidding aside, rodgers has been dropped by one of his sponsors, a health care company. it raises the question of how dangerous is it what rodgers was done here. the health care company is telling the public aaron rodgers is somebody we want to be associated with. now we found out that he's lying and getting his medical advice from joe rogan, we're going to drop him. but it is dangerous, no? >> i want to make the point that i hope he doesn't do what gwyneth did and start a lifestyle brand. do not need that. some mountain before trump was
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around i was always, always worried about -- like the kardashian time, a celebrity is bad, we can like somebody for being a good player on the field. i remember sort of liking aaron rodgers. i thought here's a handsome football player, very talented. but also, you know, here we are. i'm looking at him as a football player. i'm not trying to take advice. but again it's dangerous for us and we need to stop doing it. i think the packers are accountable, held accountable here, too. i think that this is a big problem, big problem for them. and shame on you, aaron rodgers, stop lying, be a better person. you're a role model for kids, man, what are you doing? >> he either lied to the team and the team lied to the nfl or the team didn't know -- we've
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got to find out how he got away with that and nobody asked him for a vaccine card. this is the protocol. i can't walk into a restaurant in new york without having to pull out my vaccine card just to get out of there. >> homeopathic stuff. >> listen, stick around. we've got a lot more to talk to you guys about. don't go anywhere. coming up, it's the time of year we end day light saving time, but why don't we end it altogether. t why don't we end i altogether s online now. shingles doesn't care. i keep my social distance. shingles doesn't care. i stay within my family bubble. shingles doesn't care. because if you've had chicken pox, you're already carrying the virus that causes shingles. in fact, about 1 in 3 people will develop shingles, and the risk only increases as you age. so what can protect you against shingles?
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all right. it is the most confusing time of the year. daylight saving time comes to an end on sunday, and yes, that's day light saving, not savings time. tonight we will fall back by setting our clocks behind one hour. the cycle was first introduced
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during world war i as a way to support the wartime effort. but now there is a growing movement against the numb fall-back tradition. >> this sunday millions of americans are going to once again roll their clocks back understand no time next spring they'll have to roll their clocks forward. for that reason? why know a single person who loves to go through the trouble of figuring outs whether their microwave of their oven has the hour light or anyone who looks forward to the sun setting earlier and earlier every winter, to put it simply, americans want more sunshine and less depression. >> more sunshine, less depression. you can say that again, for sure, senator. starting tomorrow, the sunset in new york is going to be at 4:45 fm. which is pretty early. surprisingly this annual practice is widely unpopular.
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in the last four years 19 states have passed legislation or resolution supporting year round daylight saving time. they spruced the sunshine protection act to get rid of standard time altogether, making day lights time permanent. states have a lot to choose to remain on standard time. that's why it's hard for the rest of the country to keep track of what time it is in places like arizona and hawaii. it's notes as easy for estates that prefer year round day light saving time, that would actually require a change to terrell law. it's a bit confusing. i'm sure you got all that. but in the meantime let's enjoy our extra hour of sleep tonight. let's ask my panel about it when we come back. don't go anywhere. so subaru is growing our commitment to
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>> just to be clear. don't you love it when political tv shows parity capitol hill and end up looking like real life? that's jonah ryan. my panel is back with me to discuss this issue of grave national importance, guys. i know it's important.
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we got to talk about it i unfortunately. i know the department of transportation, actually in charge of daylight saving time. they say there are some pros. it reduces crime. those, though, are the pros. when we spring forward in march, where do you come down on this debate? what good comes from falling back? >> i mean, it's hard to say,nd i'm not going to argue that saving us from traffic accidents is a bad thing, but i really think this home to change or get rid of daylight saving time is a mental health game. every time we spring back, we are more often in darkness. it causes system di press. people go on amazon and buy sad lamps. i had to do it when i was in college. it's not a good thing with people with mental health, bottom line, whatever other benefits there may be,
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especially right now when we're pandemic. it's not worth it. >> yeah. that's a very important point. obviously any time you're dealing with mental health it's a series issue. the body's internal clock gets disrupted. let me ask you, how do you steer clear of some of these pit falls in the coming months, the so-called winter blues as a result of day light saving time ending? >> well, unsuccessfully, i guess. i usually get through december and january all right. but it does get to me. february, march, it's tough. i remember i read at some point that the well day light savings thing was proposed by benjamin franklin because he was sleeping too late in the day when he was living in paris and missing too much of the sunlight. i know that's a problem we have when we go to paris and sleep the day away. i think we should keep it and
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just in case, you know, that ever is my life, i want to make sure that i get plenty of day light in. although probably not. >> by the way, that's where the expression paris in the springtime comes from. i don't know if you knew that or not. i just totally made that up. that's not true. i made that up. >> i was going to say. you learn something new every day. >> it was a cue drop. >> misinformation. >> exactly. listen, one group of people who may have a special challenge going into this time change, people like me, a parent. "the new york times" note that parents of small children dread these shifts. it disresults nap time. with the sunset, they're not going to bed at 4:45. that's for sure. running around sunlight?
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>> well, you know, we often laugh about things in society like it's going to require an act of congress, well, this literally would require an act of congress to have it extended beyond the current eight months. am begging congress, oh, my gosh, i am so scared. i need you guys to act. this is complete nonsense to me. it doesn't make sense on the energy side. we've seen that. more so, mental health as we just heard is literally the thing that is being prioritized now as we come out of the pandemic and no better way to do it than to get more sleep. we're always going to be the in a state of sleeplessness. jimmy we've heard triggering in the week after the time change, there's also spikes of heart attacks, that's scary. auto accidents, workplace accidents. people need to be productive, happy and healthier, especially here in the united states by
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eliminating -- our practice, we will be a better society. i think it's time to act. >> you spend a lot of time talking to folks about things happening in congress. there's bipartisan proposal right now in congress to get rid of standard time and made daylight time permanent. a piece of legislation that has the support of both parties. doesn't it seem like a no-brainer or what do you think is going to happen? >> i think it is an issue that unites us all. day light is worth saving. there's always like a small group of people who are like i like falling back because get that extra hour of sleep. that's one night. you get an extra hour of sleep one night. and six months of soul crushing darkness. i think that if there's anyone who likes it getting dark at 4:00 p.m., maybe you're not smib want to be around anyway. >> what about your paris mornings, though? >> i'm sorry.
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i forgot about that. >> you're going to give that up? >> i foirg about that. >> ok. >> by the way, the extra hour of sleep, you know you can sleep in an extra hour any other time of the year, right, like if you don't want to wake up, just sleep an extra hour. all right, guys. >> very angry. >> i can tell. i see you're going to make a whole episode of this. we'll be looking out for that. guys, it was great to see you, thank you ladies. great to see you as well. greta thuneburg has a perfect sarcastic response for those telling her to clean up her act. one year after meet the family behind the small business that was thrown into the national spotlight. don't miss the documentary sunday on msnbc.
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it's a failure. it should be obvious that we cannot solve the crisis with the same methods that got ourselves into it in the first place. it has turned into a pr event where leaders are giving beautiful speeches and announcing commitments and targets. >> all right. so sarong words for sure. but tuneberg has a message for acuts. >> we say no more blah, blah, blah, no more exploitation of the plapts, no more exploitation, no more blah, blah, blah. whatever the [ bleep ] they're doing inside there. >> all right. so thoounberg's use of occurs words made some people uncomfortable, so she was nice enough to tweet out this sarcastic pledge. i am pleased to announce i have decided to go net zero on swear words and bad language.
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