somewhat cryptic description he gave reporters. >> who is in the next batch? >> well, some of the people that have been written about, some of the people who haven't been written about. you know, we're just doing our body of work. >> as the committee continues its investigation, it's reportedly zeroing in on a number of individuals connected to the so-called war room at the willard hotel. that's where some of the ex-president's cronies plotted to keep him in office in the days leading up to the attack. among that group, they want to hear from john eastman, a lawyer and loyalist, who helped draft a strategy to overthrow biden's win. eastman is in the committee's cross hairs after it emerged he outlined possible strategies for overturning the election in a

memorandum presented during a meeting at the white house on january 4th, just two days before the rally. eastman ran through the memo that detailed how at the joint session of congress on january 6th, pence might refuse to certify and thereby hand donald trump a second term. given that information, you can see why investigators would want to hear from eastman. only time will tell if any of the former president's allies will actually choose loyalty to democracy. i wouldn't hold my breath. bennie thompson is weighing criminal context charges for the ex-trump era man jeffrey clark. it may seem like progress is moving at a snail's pace for the committee's investigation, there's actually fresh evidence indicating that things are moving faster than we might think. the ranking republican member on the committee, liz cheney, says, quote, members of the house

panel investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol have interviewed more than 150 people so far. joining me now is betsy woodrough swan. good morning. what are you hearing about what's happening next on this committee? >> what we are keeping an eye out for is whether or not thompson issues a subpoena of john eastman, who you described earlier, who is a key figure here. of course, one other key plot that we saw unfold last week was jeff clark, who you showed on screen, saying that he would refuse to cooperate. clark showed up for an interview. but according to thompson wouldn't answer any questions. in fact, i obtained a letter that clark and his lawyer have delivered to the committee trying to make a bit of a head scratcher of a legal argument as to why clark thinks he, for whatever reason, doesn't have to

comply with this lawful subpoena. in fact, what's particularly weird about this letter is that clark cited a different letter that trump sent to him in august where trump actually said that he would not try to block clark from testifying. clark is in a really odd spot here. the committee expects they will have significant leverage in trying to push him to play ball. of course, the piece that makes this challenging is the committee went about as far as they can go in trying to force steve bannon to testify. the justice department has yet to send up any smoke signals as to whether or not they are going to prosecute steve bannon for defying that subpoena. it's a lot of moving pieces, a lot of different characters to keep track of. each of these folks, particularly steve bannon, jeff clark and john eastman, have important, significant visibility into the president's efforts to overturn the election. if the committee can somehow get them to testify, we expect them to get substantial new information. it's just a question of whether

or not they can actually get these men to sit down under oath and answer questions. >> betsy, you know so much about this. i think there are a lot of viewers are saying, why can't they get them to testify? why can't someone who is compelled by congress to testify who does show up be made to do so? the committee referred that to the justice department, particularly in the case of steve bannon. over the last four years as we got used to donald trump talking about his attorney general and justice department, that would feel automatic. there's something different about this one that means bannon doesn't show up. >> that's right. one of the key focuses for garland and part of the reason that president biden made garland attorney general was re-establishing that independence of the justice department. that's the single biggest focus for attorney general garland. it means doj is a little less

predictable than it was under the trump administration. that doesn't mean the justice department isn't going to prosecute people. we don't know if they will. part of the challenge for congressional subpoenas is that the one really sort of nuclear weapon congress has to force people to testify, which is called inherent contempt, they haven't used in upwards of 100 years. they arrest people who defy the subpoenas and holds those people in its own custody. that hasn't happened for 100 years. congressman raskin has floated it as a possibility of something the committee could use. i don't think the committee will use that tool. raskin mentioned them possibly using it. the second best alternative they have that they have deferred to in bannon's case is asking doj to actually prosecute him for what they believe is the crime of defying the subpoena that they have issued.

now the hot potato is very much over at the justice department. the official who will be in charge of making that decision is the u.s. attorney for the district of d.c. biden's nominee for that job was confirmed last week. his name is matt graves. he is just taking over. i can guarantee this is at the top of what's likely to be a long to-do list for him in terms of what his office will do next. >> another name now for my viewers to get familiar with, matt graves. betsy, even if i knew some portion of what you know, which i don't, i don't know if i could explain it as clearly as you do at 8:00 a.m. on a sunday morning. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. joining me now is brenda lawrence. she's the vice chair of the house appropriations committee and is on the oversight committee. she's the chair of the democratic women's committee. good morning to you. thank you for being with us. i want to cover a lot of ground with you. it's been a very busy week for you, members of congress.

let's start with this one. the january 6 committee, where it is, the sort of failure -- i don't want to say refusal, because he showed up, but the failure of jeffrey clark to testify and the difficulty the committee is having in getting the testimony that it needs, at least what we know of so far. >> good morning. thank you for having me. what is before us is the fight to protect our democracy. and when you see these subpoenas coming forward, it is because we have -- we feel strongly, in congress, we have a responsibility to go through due process to get the facts and to expose those and hold them accountable -- hold them accountable for the actions that were taken to destroy our democracy. it was a signal of war. it was a signal of disrespect. it was a signal of a threat to

my life and to the life of the democracy. >> i want to ask you about another matter. this is the one that has been preoccupying us for the last few days. that's the passage of two important bills. one that got passed, the infrastructure bill. the other we will talk about in a moment that hasn't been passed yet. you come from a state, michigan, in which infrastructure matters and touches every part of your life. you have bridges, ports, rivers, water issues. this is a massive bill. it got caught up in the politics of moderates versus -- versus progressives and that. ultimately, this is a major bill. >> we have some turbulence along the way. but we delivered for the american people. i tell people, as we were going through that process -- i'm on the black caucus, progressive caucus. i am chair of the women's

caucus. we wanted to make sure that this bill, which is transformational for this country, had all the voices of the big ten of the democratic party. most importantly, that we were taking care of the american people. we landed this plane. we know we were given the route and vision by president biden when he came to office. nancy pelosi has not given up. she has been tireless. she has not lost sleep -- she has lost sleep, i should say, on fighting for these issues. i'm so proud to say to the american people, we are going to keep our word and we are going to make the biggest investment in our infrastructure since the new deal. >> i want to ask you how you thought about"the new york time the idea put forward by the black caucus members was to finally to approve the

infrastructure bilk held hostage by progressive lawmakers and they would apply the rules of debate for the social welfare bill. why was it of interest to members of the black caucus to get this done on friday night? >> my goodness. you have hit the nail on the head. we as the leaders of the black caucus under our chair sat in the room with nancy pelosi, with clyburn and hoyer. we said all of these issues, water -- we know the education of our children, giving them an additional education, we knew that when you talk about environmental injustice where we are being victims of climate change and all those things, the black community always ranked

very high. we were so invested in these two bills, investing in our drinking water. i was at the table fighting and dealing with this issue. we know if we took care of these issues, america would be in a better place. black america, investing in childcare so we can work, making sure that those who are on front line, our care workers and our -- for the elderly and for our children, that we are paying them a decent wage, that we are creating jobs. when we talk about investing in our infrastructure, those are jobs. skill trade jobs that will give people a quality of life. and we in black america knew it was out responsibility under the leadership of the black caucus

for us to sit in that room and get all the parties together and to work. because at the end of the day, this is not a progressive bill, this is not a bill for the conservatives. this is a bill for all of america. we know the investment in this bill and build back better, the transportation and build back better, was going to lift the black community and lift america. >> we will have to come back and talk about the build back better deal. we will have a chance to do that. i was surprised, you got some republican support. i was surprised. i remember the days when infrastructure spending wasn't a partisan matter. thank you for being with us. we have a packed plate this morning. coming up, we will stay in michigan. the secretary of state joins the show. we will discuss republicans' attacks on voting rights in that

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child eaters and sex traffickers. somehow donald trump is the savior who will defeat the pedophiles and jail democrats. for a moment put your phone down and pay attention to this part. according to the conspiracy theory, donald trump is related to the kennedy family. joseph kennedy didn't die in world war ii and had a son who is general michael flynn who makes flynn first cousins to john f kennedy junior. donald trump is, get this, the biological son of general patton which makes trump the first cousin of jfk junior, which explains why donald trump actually accused senator ted

cruz's father of being friends with his killer. i'm not done. the same people who believe all of this nonsense also believe that this past week at the same time and place where president john f. kennedy, his late son would reveal himself as alive and well. he would to proclaim that he was re-entering society as donald trump's running mate in the 2024 presidential election. hundreds of people actually showed up in dallas to witness the second coming of jfk junior for the second running of donald j. trump. they came fully prepared. they had shirts and signs. needless to say, neither jfk junior nor his father showed up to this party. the group of critical thinkers did not give up. some members of the group came to the logical epiphany that he must be disguised as keith

richards, the rolling stones guitarist. as interesting as that may be to us keith richards fans, i'm not going down that rabbit hole because there's only so much crazy one can take. it's thriving today, last december, after trump lost the election, the elusive leader of the group, who is named q, appeared to have a come to jesus moment. according to ben collins, he addressed their nation of followers and made three revelations. jfk junior is, in fact, dead. two, the earth is not flat. three, elections are safe. just one month after that, trump supporters stormed the capitol motivated by the big lie that the election was stolen from donald trump. seems like q doesn't even control believers anymore. this past week, voters elected at least ten republicans to office who attended the rally on january 6th, which turned into a

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today marks one year since joe biden was declared president of the united states. every day since, his legitimate victory has been doubted by republicans and believe the lies spread by the former president claiming it was stolen. the lies are driving policy by republicans across the country aimed at suppressing votes. in florida, governor desantis wants to create a police force

whose responsibility is to crack down on so-called election crimes. this despite praising how smoothly the 2020 election went in his state. the department of justice is suing texas for its restrictive voting law which is supported by the governor and targets the elderly, disabled and non-english speaking voters. in michigan, republicans launched a coordinated effort to influence the independent commission tasked with redrawing voting maps at voters blocked them from participating. according to recordings obtained by nbc news, senior state party officials hosted training sessions conducting at least two last month and distributed talking points on how to argue on behalf of map changes that experts say would favor gop candidates. i want to discuss more of this. joining me is the secretary of state from michigan. she has talked to us about the voting situation in michigan and how it is safeguarded and about

overall what's happening in the country. let's start there. you have tweeted that this is something that those of us who fall on the side of democracy and voting rights have to be on about all the time. we can't return to politics as normal between two candidates. we have to be thinking about the fact that democracy itself is on the line and it's manifesting in voting rights. >> it is, truly. a foundation of our government and everything we stand for as a country is under attack. thank you so much for having me but also for laying it out in your last segment and just now about the real threats that are serious and escalating every day. i lived through this a year ago, working every day to protect the results of our election in michigan. what we have dealt with in the year since is one side against democracy increasing their intensity of their focus to potentially overturn future election results they disagree

with. the other side, those on the side of democracy, some of us are sitting back and thinking the battle is over. >> no. >> that we are not rising with the same intensity. we can't. these challenges are real and escalating. i'm deeply concerned about the fact that we will potentially have more people in positions of authority in future elections who will be willing to block the will of the people if we don't do something about that now. >> i'm curious about this particular sentiment of which you speak. back when donald trump was tweeting every day and last november, last december, it was out there every day and it was obvious for most people to see, whether they are republicans or democrats, that this guy is off his rocker a little bit and is saying crazy stuff about the election. somehow the urgency has left some people and they are moving along. how do you convince people -- it has nothing to do with being a democrat or republican. people who believe in democracy, in this republic to which we subscribe, how do you convince them? what's the argument that this is

where all of your attention needs to be? >> i think we need to start talking more about what's happening behind the scenes. here in michigan, we had two individuals at the local level and state level who voted against their party to certify our election results in 2020, a concerted effort to try to block those election results from becoming realized, even though they were accurate. those people have been replaced by individuals who have stated they would be willing to potentially overturn election results in the future. that's happening in states all across the country. one by one, behind the scenes, there are people being placed or advocated for being placed in positions of authority who can potentially be able to just vote against the will of the people and block that from becoming a certified election result in the future. as we reflect on all this, the same outrage that many of us felt on january 6 as we watched the tragedy in our u.s. capitol, that's something we still need to have every day going into next year, because the same

efforts that underline that tragedy are still happening all around our country. there's been no accountability or consequences for anyone who furthered election lies or tried to overturn the will of the people. because of that, we have to know and expect that this will continue. there is no bottom for how far people will go to block the will of the people in order to seize control themselves and further conspiracy theories and lies and disinform the public. >> how do you deal with the perpetrators of that and the segment i did talking about qanon people, many of whom are duped. you have right wing militias who had a plan to take your governor hostage and do harm to her on the basis of nonsense that was spread and encourage by the former president in some cases. there's a distinction between

those who are manipulating people and those who are manipulated. >> we have to recognize the vast majority of people are being lied to, deceived by people they trust, people they have elected. we have to make the case to them about listening, talking directly and going where they are and having conversations, difficult conversations. but to approach it as trying to inform and assist people and support people who have been deceived by people they believe in. on the other side, we need to seek accountability for people who aregrifting the american people. ultimately, to dismantle our democracy. there has been no legal real accountability for those lies and liars. but there's no political accountability. as we see more people getting elected furthering the lies, that's sending the wrong message to leaders and future leaders

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most likely feel the burn of the supply chain issues, a lack of available goods and services. the country is experiencing shortages of toilet paper and paper towels to critical electronic parts like microchips. now there's talk of a shortage of another valuable commodity, u.s. coins. >> reporter: as the pandemic wanes, in-store cash registers are ringing again. if you are paying cash, you may get short changed because there's a shortage of change. >> we ran out of change multiple times, quarters. >> reporter: here in florida, making change for cash purchases not in as much demand as it was. >> i think people are paying with cards more so now than they used to. i think people think money is dirty. they are afraid to touch it. >> reporter: one of the most in

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having appended abortion rights in texas, the supreme court took up two challenges to the ban, that it allowed to take affect. it's the strictest law in the nation. in court on monday, the arguments strayed far from abortion. lawyers and justices discussed the merriterits of how it's car out. they focussed on the vigilante portion. it's a novel legal approach meant to circumvent judicial law.

even as texas faces the legal challenges to its law, other republican-led states are emboldened by this hostile climate around reproductive rights. copycat laws that follow texas's lead has popped up in florida and ohio where gop lawmakers are taking it further and are seeking to ban abortion outright. the other major abortion case of the supreme court term will move forward in less than a month. the state of mississippi is directly challenging the constitutionality of roe versus wade. joining me is joyce vance. you have been following this case and all of the attended cases closely. with respect to the supreme court hearing discussions about the texas law, justics

kavanaugh and coney-barrett, did note some skepticism about the texas law. what do you make of those? >> they did sound some skepticism. it wasn't about whether it should remain constitutional in the united states. it had more to do with the veek -- vehicle that texas has chosen to implement the law. your listeners are familiar with the vigilante system where anyone in the country can get a $10,000 bounty for suing anyone who aided abetted, assisted them in getting it. the supreme court got the chance to take a good hard look at this mechanism. justices barrett and kavanaugh got cold feet about this mechanism, deciding that perhaps it could also be used in other states to, say, impact gun rights or other substantive issues that they cared about

more. the vigilante justice system didn't look good when it was exposed in that light. >> let's talk about the copycat laws. ohio seems to go further than the texas law. are these relevant in the current landscape. is this mississippi case that the supreme court will hear december 1st the most important, because it's actually a direct challenge to abortion? it's not some weird mechanism like texas. >> it's all intertwined. the mississippi case is the big prize here. that's the case where we will find out if this newly conservative supreme court intends to completely do away with roe, eviscerate 50 years of abortion rights for people in the united states, or whether they will craft middle ground sort of a rule that is less permissive than roe but stops short of completely criminalizing, completely putting abortion out of bounds in states that choose to implement laws like that. that's the big prize.

the texas situation is interesting because it gives the court to look a little bit more moderate on the issues. they can, for instance, say texas's law isn't appropriate while going ahead and doing away with significant portions of roe and, of course, the fringe benefit of dealing with the texas law is it prevents not just copycat laws like ohio, which for instance would prohibit all abortions, but also takes away the texas strategies could be used to take away gun rights or diminish gun rights. >> this court -- the interesting part is that the court -- the supreme court from the beginning with this texas law expressed some skepticism about it, including the chief justice john roberts. the skepticism as you point out all seems to revolve around the -- depending what side of the issue you are, the weird mechanism that texas uses. this is a conservative court. what is your concern about how

they will rule -- how they will decide whether faced with the abortion question as opposed to how you enforce these things? >> it seems very likely that the votes exist on this court to reverse roe versus wade. former president trump notoriously promised he would only appoint justices who shared that view. look, whether we acknowledge it or not, abortion has always been a touchstone issue in the appointment of supreme court justices for both parties. the big issue here is, how close is the court going to come to doing away with it? will it have a sense of political sensitivity we hope a supreme court wouldn't have but noticing as we get closer to the midterms, for instance a decision that completely does away with abortion rights, would be likely to incentivize voters in the midterm elections in ways the conservatives on the supreme court might not particularly like to see.

whether that's a political calculus we will be engaged there we won't know about directly. but we will see a full opinion from the supreme court. this won't by shadow docket. full brief, full argument and likely a lengthy opinion from the court that will advise us about the fate of abortion rights. >> this coming month may be a month to change one's has been -- habits and tune in to what will happen. thanks for joining us this morning. joyce vance, a former united states attorney in alabama and msnbc contributor. how one city is re-imagining policing. cing can it one up whatever they're doing? for sure. seriously? one up the power of liquid, one up the toughest stains. any further questions? uh uh! one up the power of liquid with tide pods ultra oxi.

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on tuesday more than 56% of them said no to question two which asked if they would like to replace the minneapolis police department with a new public safety model. activests demanded police reform after the 2020 murder of george floyd and the conviction of the police officer that killed him. many cities around the country are looking at measures to improve police relations. philadelphia is barring cops to pull people over for minor traffic violations. there is a driving equality bill

signed into law. under the law, traffic violations will be categorized under two tiers. police will stop all people speeding or driving recklessly but can't stop them for broken taillights, damaged bumpers or not displaying license plates properly. instead, officers can take down license plate numbers and violators will get tickets sent in the mail. they hope the move will prevent racial profiling and discriminatory stops. otherwise harmless traffic stops led to fatal encounters. a new york time investigation found over the last five years, quote police officers have killed more than 400 drivers or passengers not welding a gun or knife or under pursuit for violent crime. a rate of more than one a week end quote. joining me is isaiah thomas that developed the measure. thank you for joining us. what i thought interesting when i first heard about this is that

i can imagine this is supported by police, right? no cop who is involved in one of these encounters wanted to see their career end or the scrutiny from what they thought was supposed to be a minor encounter with people. it turns out you did actually have supportive police on this move. >> good morning, thank you for having me. yes, this was a collaborative effort from the inception of the bill. we put ourself in a possession to have a working group of collision of different stake holders who we knew were important of getting this legislation right and police of course this is an important stake holder in a collision that we're able to put together for driving equality legislation. >> i was talking to my producers this morning reading statistics and i was fascinating to read some of them. 5,000 civilians killed since september 30th, 2016. 400 unarmed drivers and passengers who were not under pursuit for a violent crime. within that 32 officers have

been charged, five have been convicted. this is just bad all around but for many people, it's their main or first or only interactions with police so if you can reduce the number of these interactions that go bad, what's the effect in a place like philadelphia? >> we think if we can reduce the number of interactions that go bad, we think it would be a ripple effect. first and foremost, it would be more efficient how law enforcement is spending time. our municipality as a whole, we hope to save money because we're spending from $10 million to $30 million a year on lawsuits with officer-involved traffic stops and issues that recent themself. overall, we want to improve the relationships between communities of color and law enfocement and put us in a position similar to what you said. someone's first interaction with law enforcement maybe won't be negative. my son is 9 years old and unfortunately, his first

interaction with law enforce 789 -- enfocement is when he was a child and his father was pulled over. police can focus on more serious crimes and hopefully put a dent in issues. >> one of the issues, i don't know how relevant this is to philadelphia but relevant in ferguson, missouri and a lot of places is the degree there was emphasis on police pulling people over and giving them tickets, because it was a major, major source of revenue. 10% come from fines in nearly 600 american jurisdiction, 20% of general revenues come from fines in 283 jurisdictions and obviously in smaller cities, smaller than philadelphia, rural areas, they really rely on these fines. we need to break away from that and find more creative ways to fund our police forces than people's tickets. >> absolutely agree. we seen from the doj reports specifically what you're talking

about that this is something that's heavily weighed on communities of colorburden of ts and we create more disconnect and mistrust between communities of color. there is a fiscal side of it, that's something we're considering in the city of philadelphia but the relationships that matter and the civil rights violations that matter. we want to put ourself in a position we're ending driving while black. >> a couple of defund the police type of things didn't go over well in some communities on tuesday. this seems to have a broader appeal than a slogan that some people don't understand the full version of. >> we think that it does have some appeal. i mean, again, this is putting us in a position we're trying to offer a practical solution as it relates to a problem we know exist not just in philadelphia but urban areas of the country and we're very, very proud of the fact it's been received well but not just legislators and constituents but also other stake holders who are very, very

vested as it relates to the issue of policing communities of color. >> we want to follow this closely and see if it works and can spread to other cities across the country. isaiah thomas is a philadelphia city council member and the sponsor of this bill. go nowhere. we got another hour of "velshi" just ahead. cheri bustos joins the conversation, another hour of "velshi" begins right now. good morning to you. it is 9:00 a.m. in the east. i'm ali velshi. ten months passed since a harrowing attack at the nation's capitol but we're learning how that insurrection came to be. there are so many things we still don't know. we still don't know to what extent the white house or members of congress coordinated with january 6th rally organizers. we still don't know who erected these gallows on capitol hill

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