and a good monday morning to you. craig melvin here. it's a busy hour. let's get to it. first, the growing legal fallout from friday's tragedy at a houston music festival. eight people all under the age of 30 died. people crushed under the weight of a jam packed crowd of 50,000. >> you couldn't breathe. i'm taking like everybody was so crushed up on you. >> everyone was pushing to the front. you had no room to walk. >> i couldn't even breathe. i really couldn't breathe. gasping for air, drowning in people. >> the deadly chaos now, the center of a major criminal investigation. we are going to dig into all of that along with disturbing video of attendees dancing on top of ambulances who are struggling to reach victims in the crowd. also also right now, the

trial of kyle rittenhouse in the second hour. a live look inside the courtroom here on the stand, a man rittenhouse is accused of trying to kill. he was shot. he survived. what he is telling jurors right now. plus 18 months after covid lockdowns kept people from 33 countries from entering the united states, the lockdowns are being lifted as of this morning, but there are still some strings attached. we're going to dig into those, but also the reunions that some families are having after not seeing each other for more than 18 months. but we are going to start on this monday with some new developments on that music festival tragedy. katie beck is in houston with the latest. i'm also joined by danny, a criminal defense attorney and also an msnbc legal analyst. but katie, let's start with you on the ground there. and what appears to be a growing memorial. the victim's age range from 14 to 27.

we know the criminal investigation surrounding all of this is just getting underway. walk us through where things stand now and where it's likely headed from here. >> well, i think the central question for investigators, craig, is why did this crowd surge? what was the catalyst that caused this sudden rush and 50,000 people to become trapped? and that is what they're currently trying to figure out. what they say they're going to have a robust investigation into all of the safety protocols, all of the site plans and plans set in place long before this concert occurred. there had been chaos and disruption in previous travis scott events. they say they were really prepared this time. they actually had beefed up security. they put more boots on the ground when it came to security guards and police officers. and they actually had paramedics and first responders staged all around this event inside and outside before it began. that still wasn't enough. when things really started to

break down, you heard those descriptions from concert goers of people just suffering immediately. suffering suffocation, feeling compressed, falling to the ground, seeing people trampled, cpr. this was a really, really chaotic and traumatic event for a lot of people, even those not sent to the hospital. obviously eight people lost their lives. and a lot of young people. travis scott has an incredible popular following among young people, and obviously the youngest victim here, 14 years old. we know a victim as young as ten was transported to the hospital saturday night with critical injuries. so now come the lawsuits. that's the next phase of this. we know several lawsuits already filed today. we are going to be hearing from victims' family members at press conferences with those lawyers, sort of putting blame on the organizers, on the event venue, even travis scott himself will see where the lawsuits go. travis scott has expressed his deepest condolences saying he was absolutely devastated by

what happened and that he's working with the houston community to try to provide as much support to families as he can. i think investigators have said this is going to be a complex investigation. it could be weeks or months before they have a timeline of exactly what the catalyst was, how things fell apart so rapidly, and how it became so difficult for first responders to reach the people who were in need. i mean, looking at this video, you can clearly see the struggle for ambulances to get through the crowds, and just the mass triage that was going on inside that venue. so that is what they are looking into. there is surveillance video they said on saturday that they were going to be going through frame by frame to see if they could piece together a spark that might have set this crowd off. >> all right. katie beck on the ground for us in houston. danny, let's turn to you. we've seen video of attendees literally begging crew members for help. telling them people are in

danger, and we've seen the videos of folks dancing on top of the ambulance that were desperately trying to reach the victims. in terms of legal liability here, danny, live nation, travis scott, who? who, what? or is it too early to tell? >> the complaint properly that i've reviewed at least one of them, properly names everyone that could possibly be involved with this concert. but the thing about these events, whether it's an nfl game, a sporting event, a concert, the key is not just whether or not somebody was injured. it's whether or not the concert promoters, organizers, the facility, whether they -- their conduct fell below a standard of care in terms of crowd control. and as you go to events that are considered rowdier and outier than other events, then arguably the concert promoters have an obligation to make it more safe. so the key inquiry here is whether or not what they did

fell below a standard of care, and whether or not they knew in advance that it would be as bad as it was. >> how do you go about proving that? >> the complaint tries to. it shows, for example -- it tries to allege that travis scott has had events before where there was riotous behavior or allegedly he was inciting that riot, but i think travis scott is probably the hardest defendant to pin it on. he is a performer. he's not in charge of security. sure, yeah, he has some thing where he said he was going to sneak in the wild ones, but that could be high beshly. ultimately, the performer, even if he sees an ambulance on the field might think well, the ambulance is doing its job. security is doing its job. i'm going to leave that to the organizers. if they want me to stop the concert, they'll tell me. while everybody could be on the look for this one, different folks have different liability.

the concert organizers, the event venue are the primary targets. travis scott is a bit of a long shot, but if i was representing the plaintiffs, i'd probably name him, too. >> this is one we'll follow closely here in the days weeks and months to come. thank you. meanwhile this morning, president biden back at the white house making plans for the next steps now that congress has passed that massive bipartisan infrastructure bill. at this point still not clear when president biden is going to sign that bill, but once it does become law, white house official tells nbc news the president will hit the road to talk about what's in it. meanwhile, on capitol hill this morning, there is still the matter of that other big part of the president's agenda. the build back better plan. and the timeline for getting that passes remains uncertain. mike memoli, we'll start with

you at the people's house. do we know when president biden is going to formally sign this infrastructure bill yet? >> well, you were just showing the pictures a moment ago of the president returning to the white house this morning. he spent the weekend out in his beach home in delaware. one of the questions we shouted at him was about when the bill signing would be. he did not respond. here's the thing, we know this president cannot wait to sign that massive bipartisan infrastructure bill, but we also know that this white house wants to celebrate this moment. and there's really no one to celebrate with at the moment with congress out of town for the week. and so it's really looking like we're going to see that next week when the president can invite both democrats and republicans to the white house to give it the kind of push and the momentum that they want to carry moving forward. that's why you're also going to see the president this week beginning to spotlight some of what's included. he's going to be heading to the port of baltimore on wednesday. we're expecting to see cabinet officials really fanning out

across the country to try to build support for a piece of legislation that is really almost into law at this point. here's why. this is a white house that really believes in the power of momentum, and we know that they're just one step of the process through. they want to change the subject from the sausage making we've been immersed in here for weeks and get back to the focus on what the president is trying to do for the american people. you heard him on saturday when he spoke at the white house calling this a blue collar blueprint. he said this is going to benefit americans in their everyday life. that's what they're going to do as they want to finish the job and get the reconciliation bill through. it's a tough job. there are a lot of deadlines. part of the last-minute wrangling to try to get this passed in the house was about making sure moderates were on board and willing to express their willingness to vote for this with these two pieces of legislation no longer linked. the white house knows it has its job cut out for it. that's why they want to get a little bit of a political win

here and celebrate that moment. >> all right. mike, thank you. let's talk about that other big agenda item that's still looming. democrats still have to get the build back better bill done, but by the way, they also have another december deadline that's looming now. take us through where things stand there on the hill. >> yeah. craig, there's the end of the year crunch. and democrats are really feeling that at this point. especially because they had hoped to have the biden agenda, the build back better plan done by now. the fact they don't means that there's a lot of -- there's a lot of things for very precious floor time, especially in the senate. things just take a long time to pass in the senate. there's legislation that the build back better plan could take one week, up to two weeks on the senate floor. then, of course, in early december on december 3rd government funding runs out. they're going to have to fund the government by december 3rd. also in early december, there's a very good chance they might

have to lift or suspend the debt limit once again. we know that was a huge fight earlier this fall where republicans ultimately gave them the votes to lift the debt limit for just a couple months. so there's a huge fight coming up on that as well. in addition, craig, this is something that has passed for over 50 years every single year. the national defense authorization act. this is a piece of legislation that congress actually prides themselves that despite all of this partisanship are able to get it done every year. well, that's another piece of legislation that takes two weeks to pass. the senate still has to do it. they haven't done it yet. so there's only about 20 days left before the end of the year of legislation days, and there is not a lot of time to do not only what they want to get done, the biden agenda, but also the things they have to get done, craig. >> thank you both.

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take a look at these moments. special reunions happening. 18 months in the making in this case. starting today the united states finally reopening the borders to international travelers from nearly three dozen countries. and that means that non-u.s. citizens from places like china, like india, much of europe, they can cross our borders for the first time since the start of this dreadful pandemic, but they do have to be fully vaccinated. they also have to show a negative covid test. nbc's matt bradley is in london where he was just at heathrow airport following this for us. i also want to bring in dr. hill, a pediatric airway surgeon. we'll start with you on the ground there in london. what are you hearing from travelers there as they head over the pond for the first time

in a long time? >> yeah. craig, i mean, it's super emotional and made more so by the fact that there was some celebrations at the airport. you could see people dressed as uncle sam. airline staff waving american flags. a lot of these people haven't been to the states in a while. it's not just business travelers waiting for a chance to go and do business. a lot of these are families who have been separated by the atlantic for about two years. one couple we spoke with, their daughter had just gotten engaged, and they hadn't even met the son yet. their new son-in-law. they're about to head off. they were super thrilled. take a listen to what they had to say. >> i could cry. i'm so joyful i could cry. i've dreamed of this moment. >> 678 days i've waited. all we've been able to do is video chats and things like that. we've not been together for that long. >> excited. it's been a long time, so i

think mostly relieved that we have concrete date. very happy. >> reporter: so craig, it's not just the passengers that were thrilled. t also the airlines themselves. we saw a rare move by rival airlines, british airways and virgin atlantic. at 8:30 this morning they both had jets that flew off from parallel runways at the same time. it was a rare move that probably wouldn't be noticed outside of the airline industry. but they're just so excited to be getting back to business and flying to the states. now, it's going to take a little while to ramp this up. there are about 2700 flights that are scheduled between the u.s. and the uk just this month. that's about 20% more than last month, but still, about half of what we saw in november of 2019, so things are still going to have to get going. you're going to see a lot of business travelers, i think, but among the people we spoke with,

and i don't think this is going to surprise you, craig, there are a lot of people who are going to the states just to go to disneyland. >> of course. of course. matt bradley for us there in london. matt, thank you. dr. hills, i mean, obviously international travel is a huge step toward normalcy for our country. any concerns at all that as we open up the borders now, that we could potentially see a new spike in cases? are you fairly confident that based on where our case count is right now, this is the right call? >> yeah. craig, there are always concerns, but looking at the global picture of where we are with over 70% of both vaccinated at this point, we're getting the 5 to 11-year-olds vaccinated, i think we've made tremendous progress. i think we are heading into the holiday season in relatively good shape. the key factor here is that the

folks that are coming to the united states are people who are vaccinated. that is the key. and as long as we keep on top of the infection rates and continue really with the aggressive testing so that we know when the tides change when infection rates increase, when there's signs of a different or new variant that's emerging, and as long as we're prepared to pivot when we need to, i think this is safe, and i think as long as folks are vaccinated who are coming in and they continue to make progress, we're making great progress already with the pediatric population. we're going to start with the 5 to 11-year-old age group this week. i think we're in good shape, and congratulations and best wishes to everybody who is able to come over now. >> how much longer do you think folks are going to be required to wear masks in airports and on airplanes? >> yeah. i think that's something that we should just accept is going to be part of our travel picture for really the indefinite future. i mean, still in the united

states we are averaging last week we were averaging over 70,000 cases a day. that's a really substantial number of cases. we're headed into the flu season. we still have a large portion of our pediatric population who is totally unvaccinated and vulnerable. and we're going to continue to need to get people to keep up with boosters as they need to get their immunity to the virus amped up as the vaccination efficacy wanes after the two doses. so yes, there's still going to be risk. we're still going to have to take active measures to keep people protected from the virus. one of the measures is going to continue to be wearing masks. >> you mentioned kids a little while ago. today in new york city kids five to 11 are getting shots at city-run sites, even schools. you work with kids every day. how big of a step is this? how important is it to get kids vaccinated at places like their

school? >> craig, it's huge. right now that 5 to 11% is accounting for just over 10% of our infections in the united states. thinking about how are we going to get control of the pandemic and protect our kids, getting this group vaccinated now is really important. especially as we're headed into the holidays. and i think having that access to vaccinations at schools is critical. there are a lot of communities where access is challenging. a lot of pediatricians offices are going to have to wait to get deliveries of the vaccine, and they may not be immediately available. so having that access in schools, i think, is incredibly helpful to kids, and i think that parents, i hope that now they're really thinking about it, considering it, and making a plan to try to get their kids vaccinated when that opportunity may come to their school. >> doctor, we'll have to leave it there. thanks as always. the biden administration's

vaccination mandate has hit quite the major setback. on saturday a federal court issued a stay on the mandate, citing, quote, grave statutory and constitutional issues, and it comes just two days after the administration announced that rule for workers at companies with at least 100 employees had to be vaccinated by january 4th or face weekly testing. this is just one of the several legal challenges to the mandate involving dozens of mostly republican led states. in response, the solicitor of labor says that the labor department was, quote, confident in its legal authority to issue the rule. right now we have our eyes on two courtrooms in this country. first in georgia, prosecutors are calling more witnesses in the trial of the three men accused of killing ahmaud arbery. meanwhile in wisconsin we're entering the second week of the kyle rittenhouse trial.

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this morning we are following an intense day of testimony in kyle rittenhouse's trial. a live look inside the courtroom right now. rittenhouse on trial here, and one of the people he's accused of shooting is on the stand right now. that's rittenhouse there, of course. but you just saw gaige grosskreutz. he told prosecutors he intended to provide medical aid to protesters. this is him describing the first time he saw rittenhouse. >> there was an individual who i had assumed came from the demonstration. i assumed that because the person was coming from north traveling southbound. this individual was being supported by two other individuals kind of like -- if you were to hurt your leg and you needed somebody to help you. i had observed this individual

come closer to the car source as the defendant had been essentially offering medical aid. and then i was the -- that was the first time i saw the defendant. >> did you see the defendant provide any treatment to that individual? >> i did not. >> rittenhouse is charged with shooting three people and killing two of them. the alleged shooting happened during the protests in kenosha after the police shooting of jacob blake. gabe gutierrez is in wisconsin where the testimony is entering the second week, and our legal analyst is back with me. gabe, let's start with you. roughly about an hour and a half into today's proceedings, what are you hearing so far? >> well, you described some of it. that critical piece of testimony from gaige grosskreutz. he's the man rittenhouse shot and wounded. right now he's going step by

step on the moment by moment interactions that night. essentially he says when he first saw rittenhouse that he believed him to be an active shooter. he also described prosecution asked him why he brought his own weapon down to the demonstration. he says that he brought a weapon. he said that's something he does. he came there as a medic, grosskreutz says. he said his permit was expired at the time and he could not recall whether there was a bullet in the chamber. take a listen to his response when asked why he brought that gun to the demonstration in the first place. >> i believe in the second amendment. i am for people's right to carry and bear arms. and that night was no different than any other day. keys, phone, wallet, gun. >> reporter: and craig, that is

a theme that's been running throughout this trial. the second amendment, and self-defense. and that is the central question of this trial throughout the past week. the prosecution tried to paint kyle rittenhouse as the offender. the defense saying he acted in self-defense and he was the one attacked. last week the prosecution played about a dozen videos or so from different angles to try to establish the interaction between kyle rittenhouse and the first man he shot, rosenbaum. right now we're hearing from the third man he shot, the man he shot and wounded who is describing his interaction with rittenhouse. this trial is expected to continue the next few days. prosecution could wrap perhaps as early tomorrow. then it's the defense's turn. the defense attorney said he will testify at some point during the trial. >> gabe, let's listen to some of the testimony. this is grosskreutz on the stand. let's listen for a few moments. >> i put my hands in the air. reracking the weapon, in my

mind, meant that the defendant pulled the trigger while my hands were in the air, but the gun didn't fire. so then by reracking the weapon, i inferred that the defendant wasn't accepting my surrender. >> did you feel that he was going to point the gun and shoot at you again? >> yes. >> what did you do then? >> after the defendant had reracked his weapon with the rifle at me, in that moment i felt that i had to do something to try and prevent myself from being killed or -- being shot or killed. and so i decided that the best

course of action was to close the distance between the defendant and i, and then -- you know, from there, i don't know. i mean, anthony hedges tried wrestling the gun. detaining the defendant. i don't know. because i -- never had an opportunity. i do know, though, i was never trying to kill the defendant. i was never -- that was never something i was trying to do. in that moment, i was trying to preserve my own life, but doing so while also taking the life of another is not something that i'm capable or comfortable in doing. that goes against almost a lifelong ethical code that i've

lived by in regards to medicine. >> can we back the video up ten seconds, please? >> okay. we are going to come out now, because some of the video that they have been playing in that trial has been quite graphic, and the language as you might imagine, also quite graphic, and since we don't really know what's coming, we're going to play it safe here. but danny cevallos, we should tell our listeners on radio, before they just heard that testimony from gaige grosskreutz there, he also apparently said that he put his arms up and then saw kyle rittenhouse rerack his gun. we heard him testify that he thought he was going to die as well. how powerful is this kind of testimony, danny cevallos that

we're getting from gaige grosskreutz? >> it's very powerful, because you know, we already have a lot of video of what happened. now you have a person narrating it, walking through the experience and making it real for the jury, but don't be fooled. gaige grosskreutz has a lot of problems for this prosecution which is why you see them trying to diffuse the bombs on direct. they elicit right away that yes, he had a fire arm and yes, the permit was expired and yes, he did chase after the defendant with a firearm. look for the defense to rip into this witness on cross examination and really exploit those facts. but the prosecution by bringing it out in their direct examination is essentially saying we have nothing to hide. the defense, you can do what you will here. but this is going to be -- there's going to be a lot of cross examination by the defense. make no mistake about it. >> this is a problem witness in your viewpoint, but danny, to the larger point here, the

defense is trying to make, the defense is essentially arguing that kyle rittenhouse acted in self-defense. prosecutors argue rittenhouse was essentially looking for trouble. how do you effectively make that latter case, that he was effectively looking for trouble? >> you start with the position that it is always the prosecution's burden to prove each and every element beyond a reasonable doubt. as long as rittenhouse raises a burden of self-defense, they have to disprove it. self-defense in my experience is a very, very fact-specific instance. i wish i could give you broad stroke rules about when it applies and when it doesn't, but it's all over the place. if kyle rittenhouse believed he was confronted with deadly force, and if the defense can convince the jury of that, then

he does have a good shot at a self-defense defense. but how the jury will read all of that is anyone's guess. >> all right. danny ve vaul loes, again our legal analyst playing double duty for us, and gabe gutierrez on the ground watching the trial closely. thanks to both of you. it's the covid controversy everybody is talking about. aaron rodgers, his bout with covid and his vaccination status. what we know about the nfl's investigation coming up in a few moments. up next, masks for students, school closures. how race is being taught in class. it's those kinds of issues that really apparently were quite the political driver for republicans in virginia's elections. but my next guest writes schools aren't the republican's ticket to victory. he'll explain why. ♪

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across the country schools have really become a home for america's deep political divisions. conservatives in particular have really seized on education issues amid lingering school closures and debates over what children should be taught in class. and that closely watched virginia governor's race, almost a full quarter of voters said education was the most important issue to them. that's according to an exit poll. it came in second just behind the economy and jobs. but atlantic staff writer adam harris writes this headline. schools are not the republican's ticket to victory. he joins me now to talk about it. adam, break it down for us here. education clearly a galvanizing issue, and seemed broadly to be fairly critical in the race for governor for virginia. you say it's not a magic bullet for the party nationwide. why not? >> so if you look at the

election last week, it's actually more complicated picture than the virginia race leads you to believe. so whereas 24% of voters said that education was their top issue, and where yurngen seized on this sort of anti-critical race theory, anti-mask, anti-vaccine rhetoric toward the end of the campaign, if you look at other races where candidates ran on similar issues, right, school board races, local races, over 300 such school board races across the country, and the sort of candidates only won about 25% of the time. so it's not to say that going forward this isn't going to be a wedge issue. but it is to say that it didn't necessarily have the impact that the virginia race was -- would have suggested. >> you know, it's a fascinating piece. i enjoyed it in the atlantic there. but at the end of the piece, you argue basically that this tension isn't likely to go away.

and, quote, america's communities will continue to be divided into two very at odds camps, and one election after another will be a chance to take power once again. what would it take to lower the temperature? >> you know, it's interesting. ien recently went to a school board meeting. these are places that people think of as sort of the base at ground zero for american politics. a place people can go and have their voice heard and think it's going to be effective in a really localized way. and i think that if you get back to the roots of what those meetings are supposed to be about, right, thinking about curriculum for students and thinking about kind of celebrating. there was a national merit scholar who was celebrated at the school board meeting. i think when you take down the temperature and understand that you are negotiating with your people who live in your communities, rather than sort of

this larger foe, i think you get to a larger, you know, a less hostile politics, and a more citizen forward politics. >> yeah. i mean, as someone who used to cover local school board meetings, you know, it's been interesting and disappointing to watch what they've turned into over the past year. it's like going to a college football game, an sec college football game. adam harris, fascinating piece. folks should read it. thank you for your time. adam is the author of "the state must provide". you'll see it behind him in his shot. clever placement, good sir. meanwhile, just last hour, former president obama was overseas talking about our global fight against climate change. another motivating issue for many voters. and on that point about voting, the president implored younger voters to make their voices heard even if their disallusioned with the political process. >> vote like your life depends

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rk. quote, you lied to everyone. that is what four-time super bowl champion terry bradshaw had to say to aaron rodgers this weekend, and this morning the reigning lead mvp is facing a growing course of criticism and some new fallout after his revelation that he is, in fact, not vaccinated despite claiming he was immunized. it's costing him a sponsorship. the nfl says it's investigating. last night his beloved green bay

packers suffered just the second loss of the season without rodgers. nbc's stephanie gosk is following all of the twists and turns for us. so stephanie, he raised a lot of eyebrows after that appearance on the pat mcafee show friday. what's he facing this morning? >> yeah, he did. he just came right out and said i'm unvaccinated. this morning he's facing an investigation from the nfl. the league wants to know whether he followed protocol. they want to know whether the green bay packers followed their protocol, and if they didn't, there could be a whole host of fines. fans just want to know what's going to happen to their season? aaron rodgers facing new criticism this morning. the packers' star missed his team's game against the chiefs sunday after testing positive for covid. >> aaron rodgers has every night not to be vaccinated, but if you do as the leader, you have to make every precaution. make sure you don't hit that covid list. >> it would have been nice if he'd have just come to the naval academy and learned how to be

honest. learned not to lie. and unfortunately, we've got players that pretty much think only about themselves, and i'm extremely disappointed in the actions of aaron rodgers. >> while rodgers remains under a league mandated ten-day quarantine, the nfl is investigating whether the packers and their qb broke the league's covid rules. >> i believe strongly in bodily aton my. >> rodgers acknowledged friday for the first time that he never took one of the three authorized covid vaccines saying he's allergic to an ingredient in the pfizer and moderna shots and was concerned about side effects from j&j. he also opened up about this exchange at an august press conference. >> are you vaccinated, and what's your stance on vaccinations? >> yeah, i've been immunized. >> the 37-year-old maintains he was telling the truth. >> my plan was to say that i

have been immunized. it wasn't some sort of ruse or lie. it was the truth. >> reporter: rodgers admits he took anticloe mall antibiotics. the fda has repeatedly warned against taking the drug for covid because of the risk for serious illness. >> health is not a one size fits all for everybody. >> rodgers revealed he consulted with podcaster joe rogan who also admitted to taking ivermectin. one day after the interview, rodgers and prevea health ended their relationship, the organization writing the organization is committed to encouraging and helping all eligible populations to become vaccinated against covid-19. hours after the announcement, rodgers received the snl treatment. >> i took all my teammates into a huddle. got all their faces away from my wet mouth and told them trust

me, i'm more or less immunized. go team. state farm insurance, which is one of rodgers big sponsors said they are sticking with him. they don't agree with everything he said but they respect his right to say it. craig. >> stephanie gosk for us, steph, thank you. >> you're welcome. in his 17 years in the nba, scotty pip racked up an impressive resume, the hall of famer helping to lead the chicago bulls to six championships, in his new memoir pippen talks about his time off the court. i asked him about his career and how he was portrayed on that epic documentary in espn "the last dance". >> i think i just really come across as telling my side of the story. i think everyone has always talked about my career and how it went, and i wanted people to hear it from my side. >> jordan reached out after the doc aired to be clear, right? >> yeah, he did reach out. i think someone had let him know

that i wasn't very happy with some of the stuff that was put in the doc, and i think he wanted to reach out and sort of hear it firsthand from me. >> what'd he say? >> he said exactly what i said in the book, if he was me, i would be a little disappointed too. i don't want people to look at me as a player that was below anybody. there was a lot of great players in this game. you can't put any one player at the top. basketball is a team. it's not golf. >> who's the greatest ever to play? >> there's no greatest. there's no greatest. >> "unguarded" is out tomorrow. that's going to do it for me this hour. i'll see you back here tomorrow. up next, andrea mitchell interviewing the former special envoy to haiti. oy to haiti. eggland's best. the only eggs with more fresh and delicious taste. plus, superior nutrition.

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