there are no labels. just a hearty appetite and a lot of love. >> and for people who maybe live in the area, still a couple hour, you are open until 2:00. >> yes, open until 2:00. bring a healthy heart and open mind. >> all right. jose, back to you. >> what a beautiful way of celebrating. thank you. and that wraps up this thanksgiving day hour for me. you can reach me on twitter and instagram. and be sure to follow the show online. thank you for the privilege of your time. yasmin vossoughian picks up the coverage right now. happy thanksgiving, everybody. and welcome to a new hour of msnbc reports. we'll start with brand new

reaction to the verdicts in the murder of ahmaud arbery. all three men, gregory mcmichael, his son travis, and their neighbor william bryan were found guilty on 23 of 27 total charges. including multiple counts of felony murder for each defendant. travis who had the shotgun and pulled the trigger was also found guilty of malice murder. all three are facing life in prison. they shot and killed ahmaud arbery who was black after chasing him through their neighborhood in their truck. the three say that they thought that he was a burglar, but there was no evidence to support that. nothing backing that up. ahmaud arbery's family and their supporters reacting with relief and tears to those verdicts. the judge is going to decide later if the sentence include the possibility of parole. but this case is far from over. the defendants say that they will appeal and all three face federal hate crime charges in a trial set to begin in february. with that, i want to bring in

cal pir perry who is live for us in brunswick. good to see you. there was this expectation that had the defendants been found not guilty, there certainly would have been a heck of a lot of protests in those streets. however the opposite happened. talk us through the type of reactions that you are seeing there from the folks. >> reporter: it sort of shows you where we are as a country where you have a trial in which the facts are not in doubt, you have three well armed white males who killed an unarmed black man just out jogs, he didn't have a weapon, he didn't have a cellphone. and yet we were still nervous about this verdict and what could happen afterwards. had they been acquitted, i think you would have seen mass protests in cities across the country. certainly something that the community was worried about. which is why the description of relief is the right description. ahmaud arbery was killed on february 23 of 2020 before the pandemic.

a long time ago. and the family has waited and it should be said, you know, you said business undone, this is a community still very much suspicion oig of the police force. you had multiple prosecutors drop the case. one has been indicted for the way that she handled the case for basically covering things up. but as you laid out, you have relief on behalf of the family. we heard from ahmaud arbery's mother who said that there will be an empty chair at the thanksgiving table but now maybe my son can rest in peace. i certainly think that describes the mood here in brunswick. >> i can't imagine sitting across the table from an empty chair knowing that your son could have been there had he not been shot by these three men while out on an innocent jog. cal, thank you and happy thanksgiving to you and your. want to bring in bernice king, ceo of the king center.

bernice, thanks for joining us on this thanksgiving holiday. you heard my conversation with cal. i think probably one of the hardest things for ahmaud arbery's family is seeing that empty chair on this thanksgiving holiday. it hurts even more on a holiday like today when family is supposed to be together and it is about safety and security and loving one another. let me play some sound for you from reverend al sharpton who was on the 9:00 a.m. hour of msnbc. he talked about how he helped the family prepare for worst case scenario. >> even though i felt the evidence was rock solid, i prepared them for the worst. when they read the charge and we had the first guilty, i think wanda breaking down crying is the only thing that stopped me from crying. because the tears i had was that finally we got something for one of these families. >> and it is real in this

country, bernice, right? even with evidence rock solid, you always wonder how is this thing going to go. as we've seen so many other cases like this one go in the wrong direction. what was your reaction yesterday? >> yeah, thank you for that. at first as we continue to lament ahmaud's death, i want to extend my prayers to wanda cooper jones and marcus arbery sr. because i know that this is a very difficult day. but it is also as she said a day where she knows that her son is resting in peace. i think about almost ten years ago, a similar scenario with trayvon martin. and this is the moment that we have been waiting for. but more importantly, i believe although it is a moment, it

could perhaps be a turning point because an important precedent has been set by this verdict. so yesterday was a critical moment in our nation. because in many ways we witnessed a moment of the defeat of white supremacy and breaking of a long practice, that white people especially white males cannot be held accountable. so now we see that they can be held accountable for taking the life of a black man. and what i want to say is i don't know if this is true, but it is probably the first time in the history of this nation and especially in the deep south when an all-white jury practically with a white male sitting judge, with a white

female prosecutor found not just one but three white males guilty of killing a black man. and it was done in the deep south from the soils of the state where our foremost proponent of nonviolence, champion of freedom and justice, my father, was born. i don't think that it is an accident. so to me, i think that we are seeing the dawning perhaps of a new day in our nation. >> even when you look at the makeup of the jury, everything that you talked about, there was a lot of criticism and rightly so about the fact that there was only one black juror. you've got a 27% black population in that area. there should have been at least four jurors, right that were

black. three jurors that were black. but of course there were not. so what needs to change about this justice system, how much further do we need to go? >> you know, we're going to have to do some zealous work in terms of electing other d.a.s in this nation, d.a.s that would truly reflect what justice and hugh humanity mean for all people in these situations. so that is why voting is so important. we can't sleep on that in this nation. and so that is one of the major things that i think needs to happen. but i don't want us to miss this moment though in spite of that. we definitely need to see different kind of d.a.s, because the d.a. in this case was remarkable. and although the other ones ran away from it, thank god for her

and the cobb county district attorney's office. but we don't need to sleep on this moment. because more than 50 years ago, this jury would have found all three -- would have acquitted all three of those men. and so maybe this had to happen just to say that things are beginning to shift. doesn't mean that we won't have difficult moments going forward. but at least on the record there is a precedent that this can happen even when there are situations that you are talking about where we end up with an all-white jury in a town that has a large percentage of african-americans that weren't represented on that jury. >> bernice king, i have to say, pretty surreal to be speaking with you about race in this country and reflecting on the decision coming from this case and seeing your father in the background. i believe i believe that is a photo of your father behind your

right shoulder. >> that is. and let's not forget, this happened in the deep south. >> yeah. a great point. >> so let's celebrate this moment, let's celebrate this victory so it will give us fuel to continue the freedom struggle. >> bernice king, daughter of martin luther king jr., with that photo over her right shoulder. happy thanksgiving to you and your family. we have breaking news overseas in at least eight were dead after a large explosion. al qaeda linked group al shabaab is claiming responsibility for the blast that also wounded at least 17 other people. the terror group spokesman saying that their initial targets were western officials traveling in a convoy. we'll continue to follow that story. coming up next, winter is coming. covid cases are ticking upwards.

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welcome back. so we're all going into the holidays with another uptick in covid cases. particularly in the upper midwest and northeast as the regions brace for colder weather. and then at the same time, the biden administration is calling on all eligible americans to get their booster shots and all children ages 5 to 11 to get their first shot because as dr. fauci is saying, in an interview with the "new york times"s, the key difference between now and last year's holiday season, it is the vaccine. joining us now, cdc adviser and professor of preventive medicine at vanderbilt university medical

center, dr. william shaffner. thank you for joining us. happy thanksgiving. >> thank you. >> let's talk about the uptick in cases that we're seeing especially here in the northeast. what do you attribute this to, could it be a possibility of more breakthrough infections as kind of the immunity developed from these vaccines has waned? >> there are several things going on. first thing and most important of course is that so many people haven't received their first dose yet. and so the virus is being spread principally by people who are unvaccinated. number two, people are taking off their masks, not doing social distancing, getting together provides more opportunity for this very, very contagious delta variant to spread. and then third, just as you have suggested, there are some cases,

milder in large measure, that are occurring among people who have been previously vaccinated, all the more important to get those boosters. >> we're hearing about the w.h.o. calling a meeting to discuss the delta variant coming out of south africa. how worried are you about more mutations? >> well, mutations are occurring all the time. so surveillance is ongoing around the globe. and the three criteria that we're concerned about is does any new variant spread even faster than delta? hard to imagine, but that is an issue. number two, could it cause more severe disease if it affects you. and number three and most important, can it evade the protection of our current vaccines. and i'm sure all those things are top of the list for the w.h.o. >> as you well know, many families are getting together this year, we have record travel

across the country, 53 million people hitting the roadways, taking buses, getting on planes to see their family. it has been a long time, we're ready to get back together. but with that being said, there will certainly be some sort of an uptick in cases because of kind of the community spread of this virus. how do folks stay safe, what are some of the tips that you can give families right now especially with young children that then have to return and head back to school? >> very simple things. we talked about all those folks who aren't vaccinated yet. let's get them vaccinated. the second thing is, be cautious. if we're going indoors where there are large numbers of people, whether you are vaccinated or not, wear the mask. continue to be cautious. practice some social distancing. stay away from people who are coughing and sneezing. all of those things. >> should you be getting your kids tested before sending them back to school after the thanksgiving holiday and also following the christmas holiday

even if they are vaccinated? >> i certainly think that we can use more testing as part of what we do to give ourselves some reassurance. we're being tested, my family, before we get together for thanksgiving. and lots of parents can consider testing either themselves or their children before they get back to school. the tests are now becoming more widely available. i think that we can use them much more freely as they do in europe as yet another means of getting ahead of this virus. >> doctor, thank you and happy thanksgiving. enjoy your holiday. >> and to you. coming up, a massive to-do list looming over the president as he spends the holiday in nantucket. what he needs to do to get his plummeting approval ratings among voters back up. that is coming up. p.

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country. a new npr/marist poll shows his lowest rating of 42%. a big reason for the dip is the economy, inflation or rising fears over inflation. it is the top economic concern in this new poll by a wide margin followed by wages and housing with gas prices all the way down at 9%. josh letterman is in nantucket covering the president's trip. great to see you on this thanksgiving holiday. so the unemployment rate is low. private sector adding jobs. but the white house, they just can't get away from this issue of inflation. and people are really feeling it especially this week. you think about going to the grocery store, liquor store, you have to buy goods, tablecloth, nap napkins, everything is more expensive. how does the president expect to get over this hump, what are the plans both on a policy level and on a marketing level, right?

>> reporter: exactly. this has been a tough one for the white house to message on. on the one hand, president biden doesn't want people to lose the forest from the trees in terms of the overall strength of the economy. and so you hear the president talking about, look, unemployment claims down to the lowest level in half a century. and even on inflation you hear jen psaki saying that the cost of a turkey is up about a dollar which is not great, but not exor tabts. and talking about the fact that shelves will still be full, retailers ensuring people that they will have goods. but on the other hand, they don't want to make it seem like the president is out of touch with the very real economic problems that people are facing and that he doesn't get it. so we know that the white house has been hearing from outside democratic advisers who are looking at the poll numbers on this, they see that about half the country is blaming president biden for these inflation issues. and you see the white house really trying to regroup itself

around what can we show that president biden is actually trying to do on this issue, be it addressing the gas prices through releasing that oil from the strategic petroleum reserve through what they are doing to try to get the ports up and running and everything else including the "build back better" agenda to show that president biden knows people are suffer and he is try doing everything he can to bring the prices down. >> and i feel like part of the messaging in this is that the president is essentially saying it is not just us, this is happening around the world. kind of shift blame away from his own administration and the last year of his presidency to kind of a global problem because of obviously this ongoing pandemic we've been in the middle of. josh letterman, as always thank you. happy thanksgiving. joining me now, former florida republican congressman carlos curbelo. thank you for joining us.

>> happy thanksgiving. >> thanks. let's check through the items on the president's plate. i was talking to josh about the economy, this issue of inflation that the president needs to tackle. so far it seems like a lot of americans are pointing the finger at the president despite his best efforts. but that being said, you have a debt ceiling also as they return from the thanksgiving holiday in the pipeline. what do you think both parties will be able to do here, do you think that they can find their way to a solution or will they punt this thing? >> all bets are that there is going to be a continuing resolution that will be difficult to reach a budget agreement by the end of the year. so you can bet that congress is probably going to push this to march or april. i think for president biden it is critical to continue showing that he can bring the two parties together to get some things done. i do think that the bipartisan infrastructure bill is something that is really going to help the president going into next year.

he did run and a lot of people on the left don't like for this to be highlighted, but he did run as a consensus builder, as someone who spent years in the senate working with republicans and democrats. and now he actually has something to show, a bipartisan product. if he can get through this debt ceiling increase that is necessary, and a budget deal that will be bipartisan, debt ceiling democrats may have to do that on their own, but if he can show progress on the budget deal, that should help improve his numbers and help democrats' standing going into 2022 because right now, if you look at the polling, it spells a lot of trouble for democrats going into next year. >> can we draw a little bit on the mcconnell conversation? the way he sees it, that he kind of saved the day last time around when it came to the debt

ceiling. or, you know, he saved the day a few months ago. and it seems like there may be some wiggle room once again. do you think there is any possibility that mcconnell could step in? >> i think that it will depend on what happens with this reconciliation package, the "build back better" plan that the president is working on now. because it really does seem like mitch mcconnell wanted to make democrats pay a price for going to alone on reconciliation. if for any reason this legislation fails, if it doesn't getting across the finish line, i think that that could bring mitch mcconnell back into the game when it comes to increasing the debt ceiling and of course the bipartisan budget deal that is necessary for government funding. but if democrats do succeed in pushing through that very ambitious social spending program, i don't think that mcconnell and republicans are going to be in the mood to help

democrats with the debt ceiling. it really did seem that mcconnell, whether you agree with the decision or not, and certainly a lot of people disagree, he told democrats that you will go to alone on reconciliation and you have to go to alone on the debt ceiling. and this is something that both parties do. when i was in congress and republicans reformed the entire tax code of the united states excluding democrats from that process, there was a heavy price that was paid. and this is just payback from republicans now. >> so i guess the question now is what will joe manchin do, right, when it comes to the social spending bill, is he willing to sink this thing knowing that it will fall squarely on his shoulders if in fact -- let's not forget, this is joe manchin who said, listen, we get this thing across the line, that is hard infrastructure, and then we'll pass social spending. so we'll see what happens then.

carlos curbelo, thank you. happy thanksgiving once again. and some things that could affect the congressional map. pete welch threw his hat into the race this week. he already got the endorsement of vermont's other senator bernie sanders, so he likely will head off any serious primary challenges. and a fun bit of trivia for your thanksgiving table, patrick leahy is the only democrat elected to the senate from vermont since the state joined the union back in 1791. welch is the 17th house democrat who will not seek re-election next year. and another democrat who joined that list is texas democrat and house science committee chair eddie bernice johnson, she was first elected to her seat in 1993 and will turn 86, can you believe it, next month. coming up, what you need to know heading into black friday as global supply chain issues mean that things on your shopping list won't be in stock

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i didn't even get to finish. ugh, see you next commerc... the macy's thanksgiving day parade had its triumphant return to the streets of new york, returning to its pre-pandemic form. >> we've waited all year and actually last year too. it is officially arrived. >> the largest celebration of thanksgiving in our country. let's go. >> so get ready for new york's annual gift to america, the macy's thanksgiving day parade. >> awesome to watch this morning. a big hit this year, the debut of the new baby yoda balloon. and mid show, al roker got a call from a pretty high profile guest. >> hold on, my phone is ringing. oh, my gosh, look at who is calling. >> after two years, you are back, america is back, there is nothing we're unable to overcome, al.

and you are one of the reasons for that, pal. you are always up, always rooting. >> pretty cool. would have been cool if it was santa too by the way. the white house released this photo of that moment showing the president and the first lady talking on the phone while watching the parade broadcast. happy thanksgiving to all of them. black friday, cyber monday deal this is year may be more important than ever by the way, higher prices even higher demand putting shoppers on alert. and jo ling kent breaks it all down for us. >> reporter: the flood deals may be everywhere already, but another avalanche is on the way that thanksgiving weekend. >> i've already started. i love getting ready for the holidays. >> reporter: as retailers try to capture your spending and make up for a tough 2020. >> everything we're buying is 75% at first and 25% on line. >> reporter: the rush comes as a clogged supply chain continues to trigger major delays on scores of gifts, motivating some

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welcome back. weekly jobless claims hit a low not seen since november 1969, more than 50 years. we are deep in a labor shortage worldwide. and the evidence it is already hitting your bottom line in the form of supply chain crunch. as "new york times" puts it, as the global economy heats up and tries to put the pandemic aside, a battle for the young and able has begun. one solution is to attract workers from other countries which of course has long been a thorny political issue here in the united states. with that, to talk all about this, global strategist and author, his book called "move." thank you for joining us. happy thanksgiving to you and your family. >> likewise. >> receipts talk about let's

talk about your book. you delve into these global seismic changes like the pandemic.about your book. you delve into these global seismic changes like the pandemic. like war, like climate change, how they completely shift the world as a whole, the direction that we're headed in. why is that? >> and it is very much demographic because we're in a situation where all of these forces over the last couple of decades going back to before the financial crisis have really reduced fertility. and one of the big things is in fact the baby bust that you have been hearing about during this pandemic. and we had a baby bust during the global financial crisis just over a decade ago. so you are seeing a global population plateau, but you are seeing young people struggling economically, struggling with issues like climate change and economic insecurity, wondering where to go, what is the best place to live, where are they going to work and these kinds of questions. so there is this war, i call it

a tug of war, for young talent around the world. and we face that too in the u.s. because we also have low fertility and we've had low immigration during the trump administration in particular. so suddenly there really is a crunch as the world looks for young people to be the homeowners and the taxpayers and the construction workers and caregivers and entrepreneurs of the future. >> so what is the solution? >> well, one solution -- let me tell you about the solution that hasn't worked and that is higher fertility, convincing young people to have more children. that has been tried all over the world and let me tell you, it just doesn't work. because whatever argument you throw at young people to have more children, there is a different counterargument, if you will, which is to say again that they are concerned about climate change, there is very little argument against that in the sense that they are concerned that having more children is something of a big great burden on the environment

in addition to the economic burden and their own personal value shifts that we've been through. so not just temporarily, but in the long term, immigration is the solution. and having more people move to the united states and become that next generation of americans. now, we haven't really had to talk about this generations because america has been the greatest winner in the global war for talent ever. but suddenly things can change very quickly because young people around the world are saying that maybe i'll go to canada, maybe i'm go to europe, they are starting to teach in english there. now look at digital nomads and remote work. young americans are moving abroad saying that taxes could be lower here, there is less culture wars and that kind of stuff elsewhere. and many other reasons and especially now in the digital age, even american companies are saying we'll hire the best people anywhere, it doesn't matter where they are. so there is literally a great resorting after this great

lockdown, this coming great migration, a great resorting of those who are capable of moving. and those most capable of moving are the young people. so we have to do our best to keep young people at home and optimize their role in the economy and society, helping them build skills, helping they will more fizzily mobile and that is in fact the best pathway towards economic mobility is physical mobility. >> and it is fascinating stuff. i actually wish that i could talk to you much more because i have a lot more questions. you also have a great "washington post" op-ed that was out a couple days ago as well talking more about the effects of climate change and some of the solutions there here in the united states. but we appreciate you joining us on this thanksgiving holiday. coming up, a surging inflatn affects everything from the gas in your tank to the food you buy, one organization is fighting to ensure that everyone has food on the table this thanksgiving.

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welcome back. did you get an unpleasant surprise the last time you saw a grocery store bill or the price to fill up your car? you're not alone and it's not just in the united states. in the netherlands, gas costs almost $9 u.s. a gallon. in japan, a gallon of milk is almost $8. in the navajo nation, the

inflation rate is 15% more than in u.s. cities. >> reporter: it's delivery day at this market, the only place for groceries across 100 miles of the navajo nation. >> my store, it's a small, independent, navajo-owned grocery store. for a while there, we weren't able to get tissue products, clorox products, wipes, sanitizer. >> reporter: delivery trucks sometimes can't make the drive and rarely does she get her full food order. >> fish out of water, that's how i feel here. >> you don't have the resources? >> i just don't have the resources. i mean, did you see a bank coming here? did you see an accountant's office, small business administration office? nothing. you saw nothing. >> reporter: some of her customers must travel 30 miles

each way down washboard gravel roads to buy their essentials here. >> most folks will drink the folger's brand. >> reporter: you're not marking that at $11.49 to make some huge profit, right? >> absolutely not. it's a markup that basically allows us to stay open. >> reporter: food inflation is on the rise across the country. but on the navajo nation, food prices rose nearly 15% more this fall than in urban centers, especially produce and deli products. >> we already have cereal, honey. >> the prices are kind of high. but i don't have the gas money to go all the way up to another town. this is my last option. >> reporter: what do you notice that's more expensive here in the community? >> meat and milk, cheese.

and sometimes the potatoes. >> reporter: navajo nation is 27,000 square miles but there are only a dozen grocery stores here. that means it was difficult to find affordable food even before the pandemic. with the supply chain holdups, that's only gotten worse. pandemic conditions led regional grocery chain basha's to sell to rally's. >> as a small regional, we were struggling to get product into our distribution center. we don't have the buying power. so we don't have the clout that the national retailers have. >> reporter: now, some have taken matters into their own hands. >> a few slices of radish on there. >> reporter: chef carlos deal is trying to decolonize food on the navajo nation one crisp kale salad at a time. >> i have veggies i got on local

farms. >> reporter: after traditional tribal food ways were destroyed in the 19th century. >> they destroyed the fruit trees, burnt all the homes, started sending everybody to concentration camps. >> reporter: now carlos is part of a developing community based food system working with farmers and grocers to provide people with healthier food. >> we grow probably about 20,000 seedlings a year. >> reporter: two hours west, tyrone thompson is growing the veggies that chef carlos will serve back at rocky ridge market. >> what are you growing here right now? >> we have a variety of things growing right now. we have carrots, we have swiss charred. we have a mixture of lettuces, spinach, radish. it's getting back to our roots and our traditional ways, as well as adopting innovative ways

like the hoop houses. >> reporter: and he's sharing that knowledge. he's helped others in the region build 40 of these sustainable green houses. next stop, a hoop house near the market. >> the kids love the carrots. >> oh, it's so spicy. >> and tomatoes. >> reporter: cultivating a healthier future for the next generation. i want to turn now to the organizations working overtime today to help families in need. one in five americans turn to the charitable food industry in the last year according to feeding america. one food bank director told msnbc her food bank usually has 5,000 turkeys in their freezer this time of year. this november, they had five. joining me now, brian green, president of feeding america houston, the largest feeding america food bank in the nation by distribution. brian, thank you for joining us on this thanksgiving holiday. i'm sure that you and the folks working for you are quite busy,

so we appreciate you taking the time. tell me what your food bank is doing this year to help folks in need. >> well, the feeding america food banks we operate year-round in terms of trying to help families that are struggling. the reason why we have hunger in the united states isn't a food issue, it's an income issue. most of the families that are struggling with food insecurity, they're working in households -- [ inaudible ]. >> it looks like we may have lost our feed with brian. i was pretty excited to talk to him about it, but obviously, as you know, there is a major supply chain issue, so many of these food banks, they're struggling to even stock their own shelves and there's still a lot of need in this country despite some of the positive economic numbers, there's still a lot of folks that need the food. and brian is back with us. brian, we appreciate you sticking with us, sorry for the technical difficulties.

just talk us through what you're providing for folks this year. >> well, protein is in short supply. it's gotten very expensive and also limited. one of the biggest sources is picking up meat at the supermarkets, at the cost of meat, we pick it up close to the sell-by date. >> how can folks help? >> right now, feeding america food banks are trying to recover from the voluntary impact of the pandemic, people stop volunteering. and most of our -- [ inaudible ]. >> seems like we've lost brian yet again. it doesn't seem like he has a good connection. we'll try to get him back. as you can see on your screen there, if you want to help fight food insecurity at your local food bank, go to

feedingamerica.org/find-your- local-foodbank as it's important over the holiday season and christmas as well to help folks in need. i actually think it's pretty fun to involve my kids in it as well. our thanks to brian green, all the work that he's doing on this thanksgiving holiday and really all year long. and thank you for being with us this hour, everybody. msnbc coverage continues with katy tur right now. hey there, everybody, i am katy tur. it is good to be with you on this thanksgiving. we begin this hour with the collective sigh of relief radiating from georgia to the rest of the country following the guilty verdicts in the trial of the three white men accused of killing maude maude. travis mcmichael, his father gregory, and their neighbor

william "roddie" bryan could face 30 years in prison. then a hate crimes federal trial in february. ahmaud's mother, wanda cooper-jones, who wept when she heard the verdict yesterday, said she's thankful. >> when the judge said the first "guilty," i said to myself we finally got justice for ahmaud, we finally got this. and i was very, very thankful, very excited. i mean, there are really no words to explain all of the emotions i was going through at that time. >> the verdict garnered reaction from across the political spectrum. the president called it our justice system doing its job. georgia's republican governor said he hoped it would lead to healing and reconciliation. for black americans who watched this case and this trial with a mix of wariness and