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have been on the receiving end of those subpoenas have cooperated to some degree so far. steve bannon is infamously the biggest holdout. he's opinion charged with the justice department with contempt of congress for not participating. but he's no longer the only one defying the subpoenas. the former white house chief of staff, mark meadows, former department of justice official, jeffrey clark, they both stonewalled the committee during their scheduled depositions. congressman bennie thompson, the chairman of the january 6th committee, has threatened to hold meadows and clark in contempt, as well. but so far he hasn't done anything about it. we'll see if that changes in the coming days. congress is back in session this week. the senate will take up the build back better bill, which was passed by the house just before congress went on recess about a week ago. democrats have remained optimistic about the full passage of the second part of the president biden's agenda, but we haven't heard much from senators joe manchin or kyrsten sinema. they're the two main holdouts on
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the democratic side whose votes remain critical in the evenly split senate. meanwhile, the debt ceiling fight will be reviewed again. if you feel like it's deja vu, it's because we just went through this in october. democrats opted for a short-term extension which would avoid a shutdown of the government. a short-term extension that was passed by democrats expires on december 3rd. that's friday. joining me now is betsy woodruff swann, a national correspondent for politico. let's start with where i started. donald trump's appeals to the court to prevent the january 6th panel from obtaining certain documents. where does that stand? >> we're expecting developments on this at some point this week. the judge who is supervisoring the case, judge carl nichols, has opted not to expedite that process or not to slow down that process. he could have taken some procedural stems that would have made that case move more slowly, but it's actually not happening.
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that's something that we're going to be tracking very closely. of course, this broader question of whether or not the court is able to consider whether or not the select committee actually has to access the documents is a really key question here. trump and his lawyers are telling the court that they believe the materials that the select committee is asking for aren't necessary for the committee to legislate. but the committee is saying, first, those materials are necessary, but second, it's up to congress to decide whether or not what congress needs in order to do its legislative job. the committee is saying, it's not the role of the judiciary, a federal judge's to sort of parachute in and tell congress what it might or might need in order to get its work done. that's a pivotal question here, and something that we're expecting to hear from judges in the coming weeks. >> while you were talking, we just put up a list of a bunch of new subpoenas that have gone out
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in the last week. there are now more than three dozen out there. we don't get a ton of information out of this committee. you may know more than the average person does, but what can you glean from the people who have been subpoenaed, particularly this list of the most recent ones? >> it shows that the committee is looking not just at people who were involved in planning the rally that proceeded the attack on the capital, but actually looking at groups that were present during the attack and in the capital building itself. one of the most important new people who the committee has subpoenaed is a person named enrique entarrio. he runs the far-right proud boys group. the only reason he wasn't at the capitol on january 6th is because he was arrested a day or two before the attack. it raises really interesting questions for the select question, whether they will have an easier or a harder time getting information from tarrio, because he's currently
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incarcerated. of course, alex jones is another really interesting character here. somebody who long has had interactions with trump and also was in the crowd, outside the capitol building, on january 6th. one thing the subpoena cover letter specifically says is that jones tried to tell people not to break into the country. but our understanding is that the select committee doesn't see that as at all necessarily exculpatory for him. he was very much involved in riling up these far-right travelers who came to the u.s. in the day before january 6th, who were there at the rally, on the morning before the attack happened. and jones would have really interesting visibility into the connective tissue between rally organizers and the people who actually marched to the capitol building, since he was among those folks who were present outside the building that day. >> betsy, thank you, as always, for making this so clear to us. betsy woodruff swann is a national correspondent for politico. she knows an awful lot about
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this. here with me now is the democratic congressman, raja krishnamoorthi from illinois. he's a member of the house oversight committee. always a pleasure to see you. thank you for being with us. i would love if you helped us sort of make sense of what we just heard from betsey about where this committee is going and the shape this investigation seems to be taking. >> the primary thrust is to get at the truth. that's what the american people wants and this committee is trying to get at. the criminal contempt citation against steve bannon is pivotal, because we know that folks are trying to run out the clock on this committee in terms of this investigation. so the doj vigorously pursuing that subpoena is going to have, in my opinion, a very important effect, an impact on the willingness of others to respond to subpoenas, as well. >> let's talk a little bit about this bill. the build back better bill.
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the human infrastructure bill. i was speaking to one of your colleagues earlier this morning, and every time i talk to somebody about what's in the bill, the basic things that will improve the quality of life for americans, including paid family leave, including enhanced child care benefits, there's a lot in there that's really, really interesting. we have gotten stuck on numbers. what's your sense of how this bill emerges from the zmath whether it gets passed? >> i think it's going to large ly emerge in tact. i'm very hopeful it gets done before christmas. one of the things that i'm focused on is the provisions that i authored along with others. this is very important in terms of addressing this skilled labor shortage right now that employers face, and that leads to basically reduced number of goods of services available in
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the economy. and basically investing in skilled labor allows us to ultimately tamp down prices. another thing that i'm focused on is our vaccination capacity in this country. if we ramp that up, then we have a chance to really address the lack of supplies of vaccines abroad. as you know, i've said on this program many times, we need to dramatically increase our aid in terms of helping to vaccinate the poorest countries and the fact that the omnicron variant emerged in africa, where only less than 11% of the population has received its first dose of vaccine is all the more reason that we dramatically increase our response abroad. that is crucial right now. >> congressman, let me ask you about the debt ceiling stuff. i remember night it got put off to december 3rd, and i remember thinking, we're going to be
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talking about this on december 3rd. is there any danger in your mind of the debt ceiling not being lifted and what's the consequence of the not lifting it? >> not lifting it could be catastrophic for the economy. we have not defaulted on our obligations as a country, and we have to protect the full faith and credit of the united states? but i think that that i personally believe that if republicans don't act responsibly and we democrats have to lift the debt ceiling on our own, remember, the debt ceiling is not paying about future obligations, it's for paying for past bill. we've enjoyed all the goods and services we've purchased, many during the trump administration, by the way, and yet we didn't pay the bills as they were do. so this is something that we would have to do and i feel
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confident that we're going to do it. >> congressman, let me ask you about this bill in its entirety. your sense, your hope is that it gets done by christmas. does that settle some things, because there's been some sort of, you know, unsettlement in the democratic party about what the priorities are and what this party is going to look like going forward. there seems to be more to agree upon than disagree upon in these bills. >> absolutely, i think at least among the democratic party and with regard to our constituents, this bbb will is a aaa rating with my constituents. with regard to providing universal pre-k or paid family leave or making sure that we can invest in skills-based education or lowering prescription drug prices, these are all very popular measures, ali. just the other night, i was speaking to a woman wloez sister
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was paying hundreds, if not thousands of dollars for insulin and right now the bbb act would make sure that she would pay no more than $35 per month for insulin. she was shocked to learn about that. and she was ecstatic that this measure is contained in the b b act. it's up to us to of communicate it and make sure that the american people are aware of how this will really improve their lives. >> 10.5% of the american population suffers from diabetes, so that is a lot of money if you think about it that way. i would love to have a conversation with you. maybe we can make an arrangement for you to come back to talk about skill-based and vocational education. we just saw what a low number of layoffs we had in this last week. we'll get back into that crunch that we were in before the pandemic, where we just don't have enough people to fill a lot of jobs in this country. i appreciate you talking about
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that. thanks for joining us this morning, congressman. good to see you. thank you so much, ali. omnicron is spreading around the world. new cases in australia, the united kingdom, germany, italy, and israel and that's not even an exhaustive list. this latest round of redistricting is truly insidious. we have the republicans to thank to that. and congresswoman lauren boebert has issued a non-apology apology after pitching some seriously racist comments against her colleague on the hill. y racist comments against her colleague on the hill. on a comprehensive wealth plan across your full financial picture. a plan with tax-smart investing strategies designed to help you keep more of what you earn. this is the planning effect. ♪ my songs know what you did in the dark ♪ ♪ so light 'em up, up, up light 'em up, up, up ♪
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nations around the globe are on high alert. both fooirds and moderna say they're working on plans to deal
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with vaccine resistant variants. pfizer adding it could have something take place within 100 days, while moderna is testing a higher dose of its booster, which the booster is a half a dose of what the original vaccine was. joining us now is dr. peter hotez, co-director for the center of is vaccine development at texas children's hospital, dean of the national school of tropical medicine at the baylor college of medicine. peter, good to see you again. thank you for being with us. i first want to ask you, what we know is different about this variant. is it more transmissible? is it -- does it make you circumstance? what do we know about it? >> so there's a lot we don't know. i think it's important to keep this in perspective, ali, as well. you know, you're hearing some of the european union leaders talk about this variant in apocalyptic terms and using this as justification to isolate southern africa. and right now, i don't think we're there. we may be there, but i haven't
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seen the evidence for it. maybe over the next week or so, we'll accumulate that. but, one, it does not appear to create more severe illness. so far, we've seen a lot of mild cases, as well. i don't think we have to worry that this is the andromeda strain. this is not it. and we've had other variants with some similar mutations in the spike protein and the receptor binding domain. and although there's more of them in this variant, so far, we've seen with those previous variants and some of those same mutations, they're not completely rint against the vaccines. they're partially rint. so our scientists for our vaccines are looking at this as is moderna and pfizer, and over the next week or so we'll know
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the extent to which vaccines will be effective against this. i don't think there's panic on that front yet. third, you know, the other thing about these variants that have mutations in the spike protein, similar ones that we've seen before the b-13531 out of south africa, the lambda out of south america, those never really went anywhere. so it's not as if just because you have mutations in the spike protein that it spreads all over the world. the fact that we've identified this in hong kong and australia and europe, likely the united states. that doesn't mean necessarily that it's more transmissible. this has been pretty much true of every variant, that it pops up in multiple places very quickly, just like when we first tried to enact travel bans from china and the virus had already entered into new york city from southern europe to ignite the terrible epidemic there. so i think the most important thing you need to know now over
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the next week or so is, is this so transmissible that it has the ability to outcompete delta? that seems to be the major factor. it's not so much the spike protein and the vaccine resistance that accounts for the big pandemics in the united states for the variants, it was alpha that arose out of an unvaccinated population in the uk in 2020. then it was outcompeted by delta, among an unvaccinated population in india in 2021. is this the one that comes out of an unvaccinated population in south africa in 2022 and outcompetes delta. so far, i don't think we really know that yet. it has accelerated in one province in south africa, where johannesburg are located. a highly urbanized area in south africa. it doesn't mean that it will do the same anywhere else. i think the bottom line is, there's a lot that we don't know. i'm not panicking about this variant yet right now, honestly.
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my biggest concern for the united states is the fact that we're about to undergo yet another big winter delta wave that's going to rifle through an unvaccinated population in the upper midwest and the rest of the country, just like it did in texas in the south. >> and we're seeing it in michigan, actually. the federal government has now sent help to overloaded hospitals in michigan. peter, you are a vaccine expert, which is why you sort of answered the question in your answer. but this thing was discovered very, very recently. to what degree do we know, and you said maybe by next week, we'll have some sense, about whether increased doses, boosters, or modulated vaccines are the answer to this? how quickly can we make those determinations? >> i think pretty quickly. what you do is you take serum or blood for either a vaccinated laboratory animal or a
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vaccinated person who has gotten two or three doses of the vaccine, you know what the virus neutralizing antibodies to the original variant looks like, and you test it against this new variant, the omnicron variant, or a pseudo virus version of it in the laboratory and you see how far down the virus neutralizing antibodies go. so it's not a very complicated experiment and we should be able to get an answer to that quickly. my hope is given the high levels of neutralizing antibodies that that gives you with that virus neutralizing antibodies, either with pfizer or moderna, that that should be sufficient to control or cover this omnicron variant. and that's the experiment that we need to do this week and what pfizer is doing, what moderna is doing. so my hope is, we do not have to design a new booster, specifically tailored for the omnicron variant. if we do, we do, that's doable.
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but it may not be necessary. >> that's what i love about talking to you. for a long time before covid, you've believed this is doable. we can get vaccines, and we don't have to get this disease. i always appreciate the fact that you're not exaggerating the danger of it, but it is a danger. peter, good to see you, as always, thank you, sir. peter hotez with texas children's hospital. if you don't follow him on social media or read his stuff, you should. it's some of the best material on covid and understanding it. well, coming up, the battle is on over congressional redistricting. the republicans are fighting dirty why the democrats struggle to gain ground at all in many key battleground states. ground key battleground states.
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as states redraw their congressional districts following the census, one thing has become very clear to experts. many states are cutting out their competition and paving the
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way for a partisan overhaul and republican legislatures are the biggest culprits. redistricting is a routine process that comes up every ten years to make sure that each district accurately reflects the updated populations in the area. but as my colleague jane tim puts it, in an increasingly polarized country, the process has become a partisan death match. just look at what's happening in texas. out of the 150 seats in the texas house, only six of them are within seven points or closer, according to the princeton redistricting project. six of them are likely to be competitive in an election. that's another way to put it. republicans in ohio side stepd a commission that was created to make the redistricting process fairer and split up its most diverse areas, meaning that the democrats are now, quote, expected to win projectionly three seats out of the 15 that ohio was apportioned this year, end quote. north carolina's state legislators drew maps that would allow for ten republican seats, three democratic seat, and
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drumroll, one competitive seat. paul waldman of "the washington post" described what's happening here as the redistricting apocalypse. if this continues, we can kiss democracy as we know it good-bye. joining me now is marena jenkins, the litigation and policy director for the redistricting committee. thank you for joining us. i just want to start with something basic. when i've had this conversation with people who don't follow redistricting well or people who are not from the united states, they're a little puzzled by the way this works. is there a flaw in the system where the party in control gets to control redistricting as opposed to some sort of larger nonpartisan body or commission, or is this just like something else in our society that has become hyperpoliticized in recent years? >> i think it's a little bit of both, if we're being honest. the system at this point is a patchwork. we have a different redistricting system in all 50
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states. and in some states we do see independent citizen-led commissions that draw maps in a transparent way and provide opportunity flicker input and feedback about the maps and offer an opportunity to explain what it is that they are doing. in contrast, you have legislature who is draw a map behind closed doors, there is not an opportunity for transparency and the give and take of a legislative process that would include the public and their interests and you have maps that lock in partisan power. so in a number of states, we have really good systems and rules that we can point to that we can say, it doesn't have to be a particular way. it doesn't have to be this game of partisan power. >> but ohio is the example at
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the moment that in particular that you and your team are working on. what's the problem in ohio? what have they done, other than ignoring an actual commission that was set up to do it. what's the net effect? >> ohio is is a really interesting example that you can set up really good rules, but it does matter who's in charge. so in ohio, what we saw was an energized electorate past reforms, and 2018 with respect to the congressional maps. and a republican-controlled legislature and republican statewide elected who simply ignored what the voters asked them to do and sort of manipulated the process and to get their end result. and sort of are testing it, you know, sort of saying, well, you set these rules, but who's really going to stop us? who's really going to stop us from ignoring the deadlines that
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this new reform put into place and sort of saying, oh, you think there should be, you know, some sort of partisan parody that was written into the ohio state legislative rules, and then say, well, we think that that means that republicans should be able to win 81% of the time, which is just nonsense. it so really is difficult, because voters expect there to be some fairness in the process, and they just didn't get any. >> is that a failing of democratic legislatures to understand that democrats don't want to play fair on this one? >> i don't think so. i think in a number of states under democratic control, you have seen over the past multiple decade, exactly, it's not entirely new. you see these independent commissions be put into place. in california and in colorado, and in new york and so for
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decades now, democratic legislatures have been walking the walk in terms of dplemting fair processes. and you do get good results. when you have republican-led legislatures who are not walking the walk in the same way, they're talking the talk, but not walking it. they sort of say, we want fair redistricting, here's a good process. back in 2018, they ran on it. and they think they'll forget that they promised fair process and a fair map, and that they're not giving that to them. so we're here to tell them neeb forgot and we will hold you accountable. >> obviously, the redistricting is bade on the census, which is national. but there some national rule governing the rules of redistricting or is this literally up to every state to make its own rules. zbls a state-by-state process at this time. we are fighting for two laws that are currently in congress,
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moving through congress, the freedom to vote act, which would put in place really important federal safeguards regarding redistricting. the john lewis voting rights advancement act would revitalize the preclearance process under section 5 that was destroyed by the disastrous shelby county ruling from the supreme court a number of years ago. and the freedom to vote act would put into place important protections for communities of color and gen gerrymandering that we think should be standard across all states. >> marena, thanks for joining us this morning, the national democratic redistricting committee litigation and policy director. well, the supreme court is set to hear oral arguments for a key abortion case in just a few days. the stakes are extremely high. roe v. wade hangs in the balance. extremely high. roe v. wade hangs in the balance. about customization. that's why i love liberty mutual. they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback?
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directly challenge the landmark roe v. wade decision. we'll be keeping a close eye on both of these cases. a quick programming note for this morning, stick around after "velshi" for the sunday show with jonathan capehart, he's talking to u.s. transport secretary pete buttigieg about physical infrastructure, human infrastructure, and our current issues with the supply chain. that's this morning, 10:00 a.m. eastern, only on msnbc. well, another week, another republican saying offensive and downright racist things about a colleague. will the republican party do anything about it. i wouldn't hold your breath. i wouldn't hold your breath. ♪♪it's a most unusual day♪♪ ♪♪feel like throwing my worries away♪♪ ♪♪as an old native-born californian would say♪♪ ♪♪it's a most unusual day♪♪ ♪♪it's a most unusual sky♪♪ ♪♪not a sign of a cloud passing by♪♪ ♪♪if my heart won't behave in the usual way♪♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list event.
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all right. here we go again. house democrats deciding how to address a republican colleague and their racist remarks. last week, a video of republican congresswoman lauren boebert making bigoted remarks about congresswoman ilhan omar went viral. now, we on the show are not in the business of spreading or promoting hateful rhetoric, so we won't play the video in full, but essentially it features
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boebert speaking to a group of supporters when she starts telling a made-up story about congresswoman ilhan omar. she refers to her as a member of the quote, jihad squad and says she was mistaken for a terrorist on capitol hill because of the j hirks ab she wears. she says, i apologize to anyone in the muslim community i offended with my comment about representative omar. i have reached out to her office to speak with her directly. this is hardly the first time republican lawmakers have used inappropriate, violent, or downright racist imagery or messaging to stir up their base. just in the last few weeks, just this month, arizona republican paul gosar was censured for a video he shared depicting himself as an anime character
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killing alexandria ocasio-cortez. the hill reports that threats against members of party have more than doubled this year, compared to 2020. joining me now to discuss all of this is aaron erin hussein hayn donna edwards. thank you for being with us. let me just start with you. you were in congress and times were normaler back then. there's always been hateful rhetoric and always has been violence, but there seems to be a commonality to how this is happening amongst republicans these days, but an unwillingness for their leadership to do something about it. it seems to be falling to democrats to censure republicans. >> i think that's true. i also served on the ethics committee when i was in congress. and in an ordinary circumstance, these kind of things would be referred there. but the fact is that the republican leadership has to be
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the one to police the behavior of its own members. and they completely refuse to do that, starting with kevin mccarthy, but really adopted by almost the entire it of the republican conference. and i think that what that means is that it continues to demean the institution, to bring it down, and it shouldn't just be left to democrats to uphold the values of the institution. i think, unfortunately, with boebert, any kind of action that would be taken against her would actually result in her using it for fund-raising and other kinds of acclaim, but would not result in a real sanction of her behavior. >> and erin, in fact, kevin mccarthy has not only not done appropriate things when his members have threatened other members of the house, he's actually said that when and if the republicans take control of
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congress, they're going to remoua some of these members that are the targets of democrats from committee positions. he's actually doing the opposite of the right thing. >> you're exactly right, ali. what is so hard about rejecting racism? well, a lot! if it's proving central to your party's campaigning and governing strategy. we know that ratio politics have had a really long history in our country, and unfortunately, are still alive and well today, which is why this kind of behavior is being rewarded. i mean, to donna's point, you have members that are able to fund-raiser off of these kinds of incidents. this is not necessarily a new phenomenon, as donna pointed out in the modern republican party, but it is gaining oxygen in the trump era, and it continues even without him in the white house, as those who remain in power kind of continue to appeal to either the former president or those who have supported him. you know, i mean, yes, i am not in the prediction business or i could have told that alabama was going to come back and win last night. i'm still recovering from the
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iron bowl, by the way. but -- i am, it's true! but, i mean, this is what we are just continuing to see with dangerous consequences. it's not just that this rhetoric is offensive and is potentially a fund-raising strategy, but it does have dangerous consequences, as well. >> dondonna, that's an importan matter. like i said, there's always been rhetoric. there has actually been violence in and around congress. but we're in a different time, in which there's a lot of violence and polarization in society. and we almost want members of congress either to be held to or to just practice a higher standard. if there's not going to be discussion amongst and between members of congress, what hope do the rest of us have? >> well, i think that the problem here is the republican party -- the party itself, because it is viewed that embracing racism, which used to be, you know, maybe it was subtle or it was, you would have to read between the lines.
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and now there are no more lines for republicans, and they view that as their pathway to power and to leadership. that is the reason that kevin mccarthy will not condemn any of this language, because he sees that as a pathway to him becoming speaker of the house. i mean it, really is shameful. and beyond folding the institution on the part of democrats, there has to be a complete change in the culture of the republican party. and i don't think that that's anything that's in the offing. >> erin haynes and donna edwards, stick around. we have more to talk about. we'll take a quick break and will be right back on the other side. will be right back on the other side and forgot where she was. you can always spot a first time gain flings user. ♪
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i'm back with donna edwards, former united states congresswoman for maryland and erin haynes, both msnbc contributors. erin, last week i had a conversation with two defeated democrats, two democrats who were defeated in the last election about -- and both of them were defeated by republicans -- about where the democratic party needs to be, how big that tent needs to be and what it needs to position itself as. max rose of new york was making the point that, look, this debate about whether it is left or right is sort of immaterial if democrats could be laser focused on the messaging about the legislation and the bills and the ways in which they are going to help people. what is your take on what the democratic party has to do, what foot it has to put forward?
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>> well, i mean, look, historically we know that the party that wins the white house does take a hit in the midterms. so democrats are already kind of at a disadvantage and they're the underdog going into 2022. you see the exodus of democratic incumbents saying they're not going to run next year, gerrymandered maps being approved in gop states that are giving them even more of an advantage and putting democrats at a further disadvantage. and, by the way, this is just while you have this parallel strategy of voter suppression that is happening in a lot of gop-controlled states. you got this electorate that could be motivated by their potential impending disenfranchisement at the hands of one party that is a threat to their political survival, so this is not really a coincidence or any response to any threat to election integrity as i know you made that point many times on this show, ali. but, again, you know, i couldn't have told you that ohio state was lowgoing to lose last night but what i am hearing is they
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are frustrated by the lack of action around issues they care about and voted for as democrats, whether that is voting rights, immigration, police reform, climate change, the institutional inequality that president biden said he was going to address upon taking office and that the list goes on. that is not a great recipe for really motivating people to turn out in a year we already know is shaping up to be challenging for voters that live in states where new laws are going to make it more difficult for them to cast a ballot. especially in the absence of those federal voting rights protections, it is not going to be enough to point out what somebody is voting against or what they should vote against. they have to understand what they're voting for and i think that is why you see the administration trying to sell bif and the build back better legislation, particularly to those voters of color who really helped propel them to victory. >> right. and donna, is that going to work? that's $3 trillion in important spending that is long overdue that will benefit lots and lots of americans. but to erin's point, there are a
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lot of core democratic voters who think there are core issues that were more important that this administration is not -- or at least this government is not moving as quickly on. how do you think the democrats need to address that? >> well, look, i think there is several things at play here. one is that most people do not pay attention to the day to day, the politics, the issues and the things the way that we do. most people are getting up in the morning, they're taking care of their families, they're worried about their job, they're worried about putting gas in the tank. and so i think it is important for democrats to both acknowledge where people are, but also to sell the things that democrats have done, which will benefit them. things like universal pre-k, if you can save one year of child care in exchange for pre-k, it means in most places you can save the equivalent of a college tuition for a year. that's real money in people's pockets. we have to be able to speak to
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those needs. you cannot win an election if you don't shore up your base. so i think democrats really have to seal that base, which is why i think passage of something like the john lewis voting rights act is really important because that says something affirmative to the base of your party, and then you can build from that. and so i think it is a combination of both selling what democrats have done and are doing, but also making sure that people understand that we know where they are in their lives day to day and that's not about an issue, it is about identifying with their concerns. >> erin, we're at the end of native american heritage month and i love looking at things that you published. there is a quote from an article, the headline is let's talk about what truly happened, native american's push for inclusion beyond lessons about thanksgiving. it reads a study found over 90% of students who took ethnic studies in ninth grade graduate
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within five years of entering high school compared with 75% of their peers without such course work. there were also more significantly more likely to go to college. let's talk about this. you and i have talked about education and what people are doing or not doing in terms of teaching our kids proper education. this is relevant to native americans. >> well, first of all, thank you, ali, for featuring this excellent story about our education report that is up on 19news.org right now. we know as a country the story of indigenous people predates the founding of america and their contributions have got to be recognized as an important part of our american story. look, it is the systemic injustice to have children sitting in a classroom year after year, learning without ever seeing themselves reflected and that includes indigenous children. they're not seen in our history, they're not seen in our literature. and when they're not seen in any way that is culturally significant that reinforces their role in our melting pot, is it any wonder that maybe you
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have some children that are bored or just really don't get excited about education when they don't see themselves reflected in it. and to the point in the story this lack of inclusion and the choices about what we leave out are erasure. to acknowledge this story for a day or month or week out of the year, this story really just kind of points to the positive results of what is possible when this kind of learning environment exists. so thank you for mentioning it. >> important story to read. we thank you for these types of stories. thanks to both of you for joining me. i appreciate it, erin haynes at the 19th, donna edwards, former democratic representative from maryland. thank you for watching "velshi." catch me here every saturday and sunday morning from 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. eastern. "the sunday show" with jonathan capehart begins now. "the sunday show" with jonathan capehart begins now.
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the new infrastructure law is already working. transportation secretary pete buttigieg tells me how it will transform life for millions. also here, congresswoman debbie dingell and jamie gomez on what it means for their states. plus, the growing alarm over the new covid variant omicron as growing worries that it may already be in the u.s. and just when you thought she couldn't go any lower, lauren boebert has done it again. this time she's being called out for islamophobia. but is kevin going to hold her accountable? i'm jonathan capehart. this is "the sunday show." this sunday, the covid variant
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omicron is putting the united states on alert, which announced new travel restrictions on friday to stop the spread. dr. patel will join us shortly to explain just how concerned we should be about this new variant. we begin with the big month ahead for washington and the biden administration. the deadline for keeping the government open hits december 3rd. the deadline for raising the debt ceiling will hit december 15th. and with the senate coming back in session this week negotiations over the president's build back better act will pick up in earnest. president biden will continue to tout the benefits of the bipartisan infrastructure law. this time with a trip to rose mount, minnesota, on tuesday. and he's not the only one out on the road selling the 1.3 -- $1.2 trillion law. last week i sat down with transportation secretary pete buttigieg in baltimore. he had just launched an initiative that will invest $22 million to improve the city's
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