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supreme court arguments. you can find of coverage on msnbc throughout the day plus of course, our coverage when we come back tomorrow night. that does it for "the beat." "the reidout" with joy reid starts now. hi, joy. >> how are you doing, ari? have a great evening. >> you, too. >> thank you, cheers and thank you, everyone. good evening. we got a lot to get to including breaking news from the january 6th committee. guess what trump ally is cooperating with the investigation and hours away from a monumental day at the supreme court with abortion monuments on the line. we begin "the reidout" with republican gaslighting comparing mask mandates to the holocaust. again, last night it reached a new low when former respectable journalists laura logan went on want to be trump tv to say this about dr. anthony fauci.
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>> and so in that moment what you see on dr. fauci, this is what people say to me that he doesn't represent science to them. he represents joseph, dr. joseph of the nazi doctor that did experiments on people. >> the way some people say getting nasty stuff in. to show you how ludicrous but how offensive that comparison is, let me talk a bit about who joseph mengele is, he sevened as a physician at the auschwitz concentration camp and the embodiment of absolute evil, a doctor assigned to select who would die or live only to be subject to the ghoulish human experiments he over saw and enamored of tortuing twins.
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dr. fauci that seen this nation through aids, bio terrorism, ebola, swine flu and now covid is nothing like joseph mengele or like the creator of fascism because that too is offensive. it's a comparison tucker carlson made on his show but doesn't make sense. making sense is hardly the point. it's about power and spreading lies and fake outrage so the maga squad wins elections. they are today's angels of death. they are urging fellow americans to remain exposed as parents, grandparents and children die of covid. the numbers prove it. red america has the highest rates of covid deaths but the lowest rates of vaccinations. they are killing people. one kansas state senator said there are people that do not
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want to take this vaccine even at the expense of their own lives so we're here defending that liberty unquote. so how many more people have to die before we say what we all have known for quite sometime? this faction of the right is a death cult. six unvaccinated members of a florida family dead after contracting covid. mothers dying shortly after giving birth. parents of young children wiped out. and then the harrowing news that more than 140,000 u.s. children have lost a caregiver due to the pandemic. almost two years in. the trama is irreversible. it's a trama that's crossed generations and permanent and unforgiving. and so we ask again, how many more people have to die before these ghouls are satisfied? there is a way out. but one thing keeps us tethered to this awful pandemic and that one thing isn't even covid. joining me now is claire
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mccaskill, former senator from missouri and msnbc poll lit. >> caller: -- analyst and dr. patel. dr. patel, i want to let you startanalyst and dr. patel. dr. patel, i want to let you start. the insult to americans of anyone whose family was compared to the holocaust comparing dr. fauci trying to save lives to joseph mengele is insane. >> when i heard this, joy, i actually kind of had to stop and think did i hear that clip as i thought i heard it? and it's just because of exactly what i think all of us are thinking, not only is it an insult to so many generations of people who are still grieving, i mean, it's just tearing open fresh wounds for so many around the world, but it also just creates another environment where we somehow have taken science, politicized it and not
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only politicized it but turns science into the enemy in its entirety and renders useless anything that comes out of public health people, my mouth, anybody. all of a sudden, anything you say gets set up to fail by default because when you can just throw out crazy comments like that and it makes me also really kind of understand -- i have to under score there is no universe where dr. fauci could just out things like this. he has to be rooted in evidence. that's what we're trying to do as doctors. he's a researcher, as well. where is that accountability in the media? joy, we all try to hold ourselves accountable for what we're saying on television. we all make mistakes. i've made them. we've all been grieving for 20 months. i truly, truly grieved another kind of wave when i heard that and it has me bracing for more.
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i think that's where i left it and where i'm coming to you tonight. it just tells me how much they want to turn this into something that is nuclear weaponized really and i can't even imagine what is going to come to prove to be more severe. >> you know, and claire, literally you can look at the map and red states have more covid, more death, more hospitalization, more children going to the hospital. they're literally killing their own people and people like tuckham who i bet is vaccinated, they can't walk into the rockefeller center unmasked. they have no problem bumping off their own supporters. i spoke with a dad over the last several days who lost his 28-year-old daughter to covid because her mom pushed her to not get vaccinated.
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she's now dead. you can't take that back. these people don't care about that dad and mom. they don't care who dies. they want people to believe the vaccines will change your dna or spike proteins or whatever b.s. they're pumping. i wonder about the lack of accountability you can say that stuff on tv. your thoughts? >> i think there needs to be a basic rule, you can't trash the vaccine if you've taken it. end of discussion. if you've taken the vaccine, you can't trash it because if you have taken it, then you are acknowledging the science that is involved in the life saving qualities that vaccine represents in your own body. so all of these folks, everybody at fox news, all of the people that are in congress, don junior, don senior, all of them, all of them have taken the
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vaccine. there is another golden rule here that i think we ought to talk about, joy. this say party that is always billed itself as the party of lies. and it's not just about giving somebody the freedom orliberty to kill themselves by not protecting themselves. vaccines are about protecting others. they are about preserving the lives of people you encounter. let's talk about health care workers. the doctor works with every day. they are exposed when these unvaccinated people show up in the hospital and they are then in danger so this is all about a very christian principle. whether or not you care about others enough to accept the unquestionable sooins that this vaccine not only can save your life but it can save the life of people you care about and strangers that you encounter. >> yeah, the first person that
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told me this is a death cult, the trump party is a death cult, who is absolutely right is also the person that said to me is a religion is when your savior dies for you. if you're a christian believes the savior dies for you. a cult is when you're asked to die for your savior. dr. patel, there say whining baby part of it. these people are so mad that anyone would tell them what to do, wear a mask, do something simple like wear a piece of cloth. they are outraged that anyone would dare tell them to do something safe like i'm not responsible for other people. i don't austria, they have a vaccine mandate for the whole population. that's strict. italy, real strict. the mayors on italy got on tv and screamed at people and said you better take your butt home. they will stop you on the street. greece makes it mandatory for everyone 65 and older. singapore is going to stop
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covering the medical bills of the unvaccinated covid-19 patients. no more money. no treatment paid for. italy is making health passes mandatory. you have to walk around with a little green pass. they have it so easy in the united states, dr. patel, because this country politically can't do those mandates, that's why we're 58 in terms of vaccinations, your thoughts? >> yeah, absolutely. look what is happening in the recent days around the biden administration mandates across the board. federal contractors, federal workers and even health care workers who are working with medicare and medicaid patients. there is a large kind of appeal decision. imagine you have family member in a nursing home and the nursing homes are the hot beds continuing with people dying with breakthrough infections because their elderly and immune know compromised in general and the health care workers won't be
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held to a mandate. it's speaking to we have long-lived in the kind of world of national exceptionalism in the united states where, you know, it is all about me and i'm not saying that's something that i haven't experienced even personally but i will say that what we are seeing as a global pandemic that a virus doesn't care if it's about me because it about the virus. the virus is the ultimate enemy that we should concentrate on and instead, we're doing what we would absolute opposite script should be where we pick on each other and politicize things that make no sense from any of the countries you mentioned and saw what we were doing and saw you can walk into a pharmacy and any of us could get a vaccine. i have medical assistants from central america and other countries and see us throwing away extra doses. every single time it grabs at them and they say i wish i could send this home to my relatives.
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think about that. what are we doing here? you know, this is going to be what defines us for generations to come and it sometimes feels like we're losing. >> no, sometimes, every day. i have family on the continent would love to get the vaccines for free and love to get access. they can't get it. there are countries where people cannot get access to it and people are like i don't want it. it's embarrassing and stupid. hear is the thing, claire, it's politically effective. the best kind of politics is say do whatever you want. get everybody sick you want. cough on any child you want. make them sick. it doesn't matter. it's all about you. the playing to the greed the sort of guile and meanness of people is good politics because it means you can do whatever you want. dr. oz as people know hill has a show on this network. he's going to now run apparently for statewide office for senate in the state of pennsylvania. i guess he now maybe lives
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there. here is what he has written. he wrote this in the "new york times" published today. the pandemic he wrote in the announcement he's running has been miss handled by elites who stifled dissenting opinions, mandated policies and closed our parks, shuttered our schools, shut down our businesses and took away our freedom. this is the seat that's being vacated, claire. this guy is a doctor. he's a tv star. he has the same trump characteristics which means he's in a good position to win and this doctor is running on the idea i'll be the guy to free you to cough on anybody you want and give them covid and it's all good. your thoughts? >> well, first of all, you said doctor and tv star and it has to go the other way. he is first a tv star, then he kind of is a doctor because we did an investigation into dr. oz
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when i was in the senate and i convened a hearing and grilled dr. oz, this is a guy this went on tv and said green coffee beans were a miracle in a bottle. i could burn fat magically. he pushed all of these ridiculous stuff that has no scientific basis whatsoever and he was exposed in that hearing as a snake oil salesman so no wonder he is embracing donald trump. they're both tv stars and neither one of them belong in government. >> like the surgeon general in florida. there is a bunch of them in there with doctor in their title but they can't help you get well. he's probably got a good shot. former senator claire mccaskill and dr. patel, thank you. trump's efforts to block congress from getting white house records as the select committee gets ready for the next contempt vote. on the eve of one of the most consequential supreme court
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cases in decades, what overturning roe v wade would mean for america and he could be the next speaker, the spineless republican leader that refuses to do anything about the open racism within his caucus and tonight's absolute worst, the organized campaign to make sure the books your children read first get the stamp of approval from the white right. "the reidout" continues after this. "the reidout" continues after this ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list event. ever notice how stiff clothes experience the power can feel rough on your skin? it's because they rub against you creating friction. and your clothes rub against you all day.
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that congress needs mat ter yell. notably one judge bluntly questioned why a former president should be the one to determine what gets released and what doesn't. meanwhile, trump's allies are stone walling what it comes to witness testimony. according to the "new york times", the committee is ready to refer jeffrey clark for criminal charges of contempt for defying the subpoena and walking out of a deposition. clark was inside the doj that plotted with trump to lie to officials in six states about the validity of their vote. by defying the committee on so many fronts, trump and former officials are covering up criminal conduct using frivolous court challenges and trump is laying the ground to attempt another coup in 2024 if the election doesn't go his way. "the washington post" is out with a report on trump's on going effort to install big lies in key election posts at the state level that includes volunteer poll watchers, paid precinct judges, elected county
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clerks and state attorneys general. he's packing those offices with loyalists that would be the most willing to overrule you, the voters and put who they want in office. and that is a very scary prospect. with me now is maya wiley, msnbc legal analyst and advisor for the dnc and dccc. thank you for being here, maya. the arguments today, what do you thick the chances are that trump prevails in trying to keep the records secret? >> i think trump will lose. i have long maintained that this was a flimsy, flimsy attempt to try to hide whatever it is he's trying to hide, which is probably some things that don't make them look too good at minimum in the court of public opinion and we already heard from the district court judge at the trial level a very strong opinion because essentially there is a statute, a law that congress passed that said it is the protection of the
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presidency, not the protection of the person that this privilege covers so it is the sitting president and in this case joe biden who determines whether or not there is a real interest of the presidency to protect and what interest can there be in congress seeking to figure out how it was violently attacked, why it was violently attacked, how to prevent it from being violently attacked again on the extent to which anyone including the president may have in any way participated in the events of january 6th that are criminal. it seems to me that's very specific what the legislative purview of congress. >> it seems obvious president theory of the case is if the attempted coup was spawned by the white house itself or people that supported the previous president, that president shouldn't decide whether or not we get to know about it. it's absolutely weird they're
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making this argument or it would embarrass -- they made that argument, too. it would be embarrassing so that's why it should be kept secret. that's now how that works. kirt, let's talk about people that are actually cooperating. mark meadows, the former chief of staff to trump is cooperating and benny tompson said this in a statement he's produced records to the committee and will appear for an initial deposition but meadows attorney said we'll continue to work with the commit -- committee to reach an accommodation. it sounds like they're going back and forth a bit. that's two days after adam schiff set a contempt referral this week. you got brad who spoke about a notorious january phone call th
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about handing over the election. what do you think trump world is thinking and feeling knowing that in trump world people are talking and thinking? >> there are so many so close to trump that are resisting and obstructing this investigation, they know the more people talk, the worse it's going to be for them. when it comes to mark meadows, this is one of those trust but verify situations. it wouldn't shock me if they do a back and forth with the committee and end up on opposite sides. it wouldn't shock me if it turns out meadows isn't being as corporative as he would like to be and this is a legal tactic without actually compiling. we'll see how that plays out. at the end of the day, the more that comes out, the more people are testifying and cooperating, the worse it will be for donald trump. i mean, we already know innocent people don't act like the way that donald trump and steve bannon and jeffrey clark are acting right now. if you have nothing to hide, you cooperate. the fact that anybody would try to obstruct an investigation
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trying to get to the bottom of one of the darkest days in this country's history is down right unamerican and unpatriotic and a violation of our rights. we need to get to the bottom of it and know who was involved and who profited it and organized and who ultimately will be held accountable for it. >> these people were using burner phones to contact the white house. obviously, something was up. let's talk a little bit about some of the people who are actually being prosecuted. it's the low level people. it's the stupid people who decided to rush in there and kick in the doorways, maya and go inside and defecate in the capitol and the guy with the funny horns is now trying to switch out his legal team. he's decided to hire, the qanon shaman decided he needs new lawyers. jacob chansley. he's got 41 months. he hired john pierce that
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represented kyle rittenhouse but was fired by kyle rittenhouse and his mother because he originally set up rittenhouse with the proud boys in a bar when he was there with his mom when he was 17 and it was legal to be in the bar. your thoughts? >> you can't make this up. let me start with the fact it makes perfect sense that from a constitution standpoint, you start with video, clear violations and work your way up from that. i think really what we're seeing and this links from the prosecution but also to what the january 6th committee is doing, which is drawing a line between white supremacy and because alex jones, advisor to trump because
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trump be allowed to speak at the rally and made common cause with richard spencer that was found to be conspireing for violence in charlottesville. roger stone who met with the broad boys and flashed a white supremacist okay symbol. these are the people the january 6th committee is subpoenaing so there is a clear link between the relationship, between both the trump administration and it's accolades and white sup supremacy and neo nazi behavior we saw and other violence. >> very quickly, kirt, the problem is that is not a reason to get booted out.
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at this point not an absolute no. >> this is the problem we have. one political party in america has become and fully embraced being a white nationalist gang effectively. when you see there are people like lauren boebart and marjorie taylor greene and matt gaetz and paul gosar, they used to be the outliers and often times mocked, they are the republican party establishment now so anybody who is out there, who is thinking about how they will vote, what party they will line with, make no mistake. if you're with the republican party, you're with the racist white nationalist party. it a black and whitish shoe. there is no gray area anymore. >> yeah, yeah, the weirdos are in charge. that's for sure. thank you both very much. >> looking ahead to a monumental day at the supreme court as it considers whether to turn back the clock on abortion laws. the ramifications of the case can't be over stated and we'll be right back. he case can't be over stated and we'll be right back.
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we are hours away from one of the most significant supreme court cases in years that would spell the beginning to the end of the right to abortion. tomorrow the supreme court will hear arguments from the state of mississippi to overturn roe versus wade. if that happens, 26 states are certain or likely to ban abortion, which would force patients to travel hundreds of miles to find a clinic in a neighboring state assuming they can afford to do that. overturning roe is extremely unpopular with the american people. in a washington post poll 60% say roe v wade should be upheld and 75% say the decision to have an abortion should be left to a woman and her doctor. the court isn't beholding to popular opinion. joining me is comedian,
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co-creator of "the daily show" and founder of abortion access front. neal, i'll start with you. i assume they will overturn it and base it on the fact you have a couple justices out right clear they want to overturn it. justice roberts is one of them. i'll go through and put up "the washington post" analysis where these justices stand. they have roberts is hard to peg, thomas is written that roe was wrongly decided. they label brett kavanaugh and amy coney barrett as conservative but maybe would believe in super star or being incremental and three liberals. am i wrong to be skeptical because when john roberts was actually, you know, went through his confirmation hearings, he said that he was only acting as a lawyer and representing a client when he wrote in a legal briefing filed by the george w bush administration roe v wade
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had no structure in the constitution. i take that to be the views of the conservatives and i think they will overturn it because they want to. your thoughts? >> joy, i think tomorrow is maybe the most important case in our lifetimes because since 1973, women have been guaranteeing a right to an abortion under roe versus wade, a 7-2 decision written at a time there were seven republican nominated justices. look at the tally, i think that's the cause for concern. i'd say if there is any hope we're going to be watching the chief justice and perhaps justice kavanaugh, because both of them do have a professed desire to be incremental. the problem is a lot of justices say that at the confirmation hearings and don't live it at practice. justice thomas hadn't thought about roe versus wade and says
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roe is wrong and should be over ruled. we'll be covering this live on our network on msnbc and taking the questions the justices are asking and the statements they are making and contrasting it with what they said at the confirmation hearings because the confirmation hearings unfortunately are a charade and i think we have to be really worried about roe versus wade, given the republican project, which has been since 1973 to get that decision over ruled. >> amen. by the way, when roe first happened, the christian consecutives didn't react to it because they were more focused on segregated academies not being able to get tax breaks. they were isn't focused on roe but there are a list of justices handed to republican presidents including donald trump. donald trump didn't pick these people. it was on the heritage foundation list. he did what he was told. and they are picked because they want to overturn roe.
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they will say whatever they have to to get in but that's what they're going to do. for you who has an organization that is actively trying to protect women in this instance, what happens if they overturn it? >> i mean, what happens if they overturn it is we have to do what the republicans have been so amazing at. we have to really be laser focused on what is happening in our state legislatures because these laws are being passed in our state legislatures and have been the entire time and joy, it was so interesting to watch your previous segment because as we talk about the insurrectionists and people who just do not care at all about the rule of law, when you look at mississippi and how this case got to the supreme court, the lower court, the fifth circuit, the most conservative court in the land twice said, you know what? this isn't going to pass muster and the state of mississippi and extreme conservatives there said
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we want a hearing and they got one and that should make everyone take a pause, right? so folks learning about who are the legislatures? who are the governors in your state? who are the people running solely on this issue because so many of them are and looking at the intersections of the people, and white supremacy, and how they feel about guns and how they feel about all this stuff and i think that it's all intersection and we need to pay attention closely. >> i totally agree with that. neal, it will be like the dog that caught the car. i used to say talking with republican friends, y'all don't really want to get this overturned because you have to fight women in all of the states. every state you have to fight not poor women, they don't have money. you have to fight rich women because rich women want their abortion. they want their daughters to be able to do what they need to do. you want to fight women who thought they were in the club. you have to fight them now. what do you think happens then
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in all of these states when these state legislatures do what they said they would do when they ran including in virginia where that guy secretly said listen, as soon as i'm in, wink, wink, youngkin, i'll do what i got to do. >> yeah, there is a whole performative aspect to this upon the republican party claiming to be pro-life and pass all of these laws but knowing all the well these laws will never take effect because of the supreme court decision in roe versus wade. if roe is overturned, they will live to really regret that day because the idea in 2021 taking a women's right to choose, taking that away is basically unthinkable. i know your poll said 60%. i've seen polls saying it's much higher than that. this will be a decision immensely out of step with the american people and american values. >> we're out of time. liz, is your organization going to be out there tomorrow? >> we're out there tomorrow and
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i think what you're going to see tomorrow is people who are angry and are going to show it and the position of civil disobedience works in a democracy and that doesn't mean you can't be angry and it also means you can be respectful and also means you can stand your ground in a way that is not violent and i want people to watch what happens tomorrow because that is how it's -- tomorrow is how it's done, not january 6th. >> yeah. and once they take away your rights over your own body, you'll see what happens to come next. it's never good. neal, liz, thank you. it's not your parents' gop tracing the downward trajectory of the republican party. who are these leaders and how in the world did they get there? we'll be right back. d did they e we'll be right back. wondering what actually goes into your multi-vitamin. at new chapter. its innovation organic ingredients and fermentation. fermentation? yes, formulated to help your body
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quite a life cycle with joseph gurney, nicholas longworth serving as speakers of the house more than a century ago. we've seen a decline in the quality of republican leaders. like newt gingrich who you shall -- ushered in moral hypocrisy and throw granny over the cliff guy paul ryan. , these days who does the republican party have in waiting? kevin mccarthy. made boehner look like thaddeus stevens. where has mccarthy been? for example, perhaps america's dumbest congresswoman lauren pew pew per boebert who attacked
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representative omar and we learned today that boebert did that same tasteless act last month and when a member of kevin's party congresswoman nancy mace actually did the appropriate thing for once that he was too cowardly to do, condemn the comments, mace gets attacked and called trash by the ratchet three-named congresswoman from georgia who then runs off to call retired daddy to complain about representative mace. what did you think little kevin who wants to be leader so, so badly would show some i don't know leadership? nah. with me now, columnist for "the washington post" and always great to see you. i want to play an old clip of kevin mccarthy. this is back when he was pretending to be a grown male adult. here he is condemning steve king's comments which were openly defending white nationalism. here he is. hard to believe this is the same
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guy. >> we know that kevin mccarthy -- >> first and foremost i came out at the very moment. that language has no place in america. i will not stand back as a leader of this party believing in this nation all are created equal that that stands or continues to stand and have any rule with us. >> is that the same guy? if steve king was around today, would he condemn him or what? >> what have they done with kevin mccarthy? bring him back. joy, i think the issue here is we call kevin mccarthy the republican leader but really, you know, you hear of republicans, the real power in the facto leader is your friend marjorie greene because for the simple notion that she commands a large enough because of her outrage she
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commands a large enough segment of the house republicans that kevin mccarthy can't remain as leader and certainly can't become speaker without her say so. so especially, everything he does has to pass muster with green. so i think we need to start recognizing that they have leaders in the party but the real powers are greene, gosar and boebart, the most outrageous, the most white nationalist and most violent in rhetoric. that's how you get power and get on fox news and that's how you dominate in today's republican party. >> 100%. it's not a party anymore. it's like a comedy act, like a bad comedy act. you're right, the ones that do the stupidest acts they are competing to out dummy each other. they get on fox and get popular. it's gaetz keep your teenagers locked down if you're in a room.
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the guy who is trucking with white nationalists whose family says he's unfit to be a congressman. marjorie taylor greene said mccarthy can't be speaker without herred a you said. this is marjorie greene about kevin. >> we know that kevin mccarthy has a problem in our conference. he doesn't have the full support to be speaker. he doesn't have the votes that are there because there is many of us that are very unhappy about the failure to hold republicans accountable while conservatives like me, paul gosar and many others constantly take the abuse by the democrats. >> that's it, gosar. she ran to daddy trump to go tell on mace who was doing the two-step on cnn saying one thing about vaccines on fox and the other thing but now trying to be descent and they're attacking her. she told to daddy and trump has released a statement today
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saying it's ilhan omar that should apologize. once daddy has said that, doesn't that mean that kevin mccarthy cannot condemn these remarks, cannot condemn this behavior because that lady marjorie greene will probably be in his leadership team team if fact he becomes speaker? it's going to be the guy who says he's donald trump without the baggage as number two and it's going to be probably that lady or one of the other weirdos as number three, right? >> right. that's true. and i agree that kevin mccarthy can't condemn. but i think the real question is does he wish to condemn? i don't think we're talking about the same man you played a clip of a few years ago because the party has changed so much. and he's just so nakedly ambitious that he wishes to stay in control. so think of all the outrages the censure, the two members removed from committee. boebert we've seen outrage after
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outrage and he's not said a thing. you might get a pass because you've got a poor political hand once or twice. when you're doing it steadily, you are the problem. you are embracing this white nationalism. you're embracing the violent rhetoric. you showed a picture of john boehner. he had to deal with michele bachmann. but he dealt with her and he remained the leader. of course he left after a while because it was so frustrating. >> they ran him out of town. >> right. he's handed over the party to the margie taylor greens of the world. >> he sold his soul. he's selling his soul to the devil basically. he's like take my soul, i just want to be speaker. let me play for you representative omar. she had a play conference today. she actually played one of the death threats that she got after lauren boebert did her little stupid joke. here it is. >> we see you --
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>> to date the republican party leadership has done nothing to hold their members accountable. it is time for the republican party to actually do something, to confront anti-muslim hatred in its ranks and hold those who perpetuate it accountable. >> i'm going to give representative ilhan omar the last word in this segment. and thank you, dana milbank, my friend. appreciate you. >> thanks, joy. >> coming up, don't go anywhere. because tonight's absolute worst is next. as librarians across the country grapple with conservatives' organized campaign to ban books that scare them. we'll be right back after this. s
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anyone who knows me knows i love books. history books, novels, comic books. i just love to read. it's a total coincidence that my married name sounds just like r-e-a-d but spelled differently. so this thing really bugs me that's happening in our country right now where so-called conservatives who fear history and who hate the fact that young people might access the true history of this country in books are launching fake grassroots campaigns to try to get books banned, especially books that tell the story of the formation of this country from the point of view of the indigenous or slavery and post-slavery america from the point of view of black people or the history and stories of people who are lgbtq. in short, the book banners are coming and their fake grassroots campaigns aren't being run by random parents on their own. oh, no. they're being sponsored by right-wing organizations like heritage action, the campaign arm of the heritage foundation.
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and a daughters of the confederacy style group called moms for liberty, whose tennessee chapter filed a complaint under that state's new anti-critical race theory law objecting to k through 12 schools teaching several books about the civil rights movement. including a book about the reverend dr. martin luther king jr. who the book banners love to fake quote to justify their aggression against teaching history. why do the moms for liberty object to the book "martin luther king jr. and the march on washington"? well, because it describes white police spraying powerful fire hoses at black children marching for equal rights to the point where the water tore off their clothes. which actually happened. so they of course have labeled that pornography. and they're displeased by the fact that the book describes notorious director of public safety bull connor as standing for hate more than any other person in birmingham. which sounds accurate. other books moms for liberty objected to in tennessee include "ruby bridges goes to school," a
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book written business ms. bridges, who desegregated a new orleans elementary school at just 6 years old, accompanied by national guard troops for her protection in 1960. also the story of ruby bridges by robert coles and "separate is never equal" by duncan tonatia. because you wouldn't want children to know bloc people were treated as unequal in america. they also thought the march on washington would be too traumatizing for white kids. seriously. luckily the moms for liberty complaint was rejected but they and their allies are not stopping. they're accelerating these campaigns all over the country, claiming that books that talk about racism, slavery, the holocaust, growing up lgbtq and more including books by pulitzer prize winner toni morrison are unacceptable, offensive, anti-american and dangerous. and of course pornographic. so they want these books banned. some of the radical anti-history people even want them burned, like "fahrenheit 451," which they'll probably also try to ban if they haven't already.
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which is why i think we should buy these books even more and give them as gifts or donate them to schools and libraries. because reading is what? fundamental. and learning history is important and worthy. and book banners are the absolute worst. and that's tonight's "reid out." "all in" with chris hayes starts now. tonight on "all in" -- >> before you get to that analysis, what is the critical need analysis in -- >> stop. please stop. please stop. >> the former president's executive privilege claims get their day in court. >> the court didn't listen to the tapes before they determined that privilege had been be waived in nixon. >> tonight big news from the january 6th committee. mark meadows is cooperating. jeffrey clark is not. and what we learned at today's important hearing over white house records. >> in no other respect that we're aware of does a former president have the
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