thank you again. >> thank you. >> that does it for me. i'm zerlina, find me monday through friday at 6:00 p.m. eastern on peacock. on the choice from msnbc. be sure to follow us on facebook, twitter, tiktok and youtube. more news is coming up right here, on msnbc. you're watching msnbc reports, and breaking this morning, fugitives in custody. >> it takes as much manpower has it takes. i mean, personnel and resources to bring that family closure is inconsequential for me. we're going to use as much personal as necessary to give the families in oxford the closure they need. >> police in detroit putting an end to a massive manhunt. the parents of the alleged oxford school shooter found hiding in a commercial building after a tip to law enforcement. this as the community mourns the

teenage victims. >> we are oxford, and no one will shatter that love. plus, bracing for omicron, the new variant spreading twice as fast as delta, according to a new report. as new york's new state of emergency takes effect. >> we are now seeing a number of cases that are arising here in the united states, and it may very well be that we continue to see cases over the next couple of days from multiple different states. and gop house members exchange low blows, we'll take a closer look at the toxic bickering going down in the republican party. and party's leadership's inability to control it. good morning, everybody, it is saturday, december 4th. i'm lindsey reiser, good to be with you, we have a team of reporters and analystle following this forrious. but want to get straight to the breaking news overnight. the parents of the accused teen in the michigan school shooting are now in police custody, after

an hour's long manhunt. we're expecting to see james and jennifer crumbbley's first court appearance in two hours, we got these new booking photos within the last hour. earlier this morning detroit police laid out how they were able to find the couple. >> we got a tip that they were here, that possibly the fugitives were at this location. the vehicle was spotted. our officers responded in a matter of minutes. when they got here they set up a perimeter and did surveillance and we notified and activated our special response team. they came out and they were able to take the fugitives into custody. >> just hours before they were caught the u.s. mar shls released wanted posters and announced a $10,000 reward for information leading to their arrest. james and jennifer are the parents of 15-year-old ethan crumbbley accused of killing

four students and injuring several others in a school shooting tuesday. the prosecutor announced the parents will face involuntary manslaughter charges in this case, and they laid out the timeline. leading up to the horrific violence. >> the morning of the shooting, the next day, ethan crumbbley's teacher came upon a note on ethan's desk which alarmed her to the point that she took a picture of it on her cell phone. the note contained the following. a drawing of a semiautomatic handgun pointing at the words, quote, the thoughts won't stop, help me, end quote. in another section of the note was a drawing of a bullet with the following words above that bullet, quote, blood everywhere, end quote. >> the prosecutors said despite those disturbing words james and jennifer crumbbley resisted the idea of their son leaving school so he went back to class. shaquille brewster is live in pontiac, michigan at the sheriff's office, we're expecting the parents to make

their first court appearance soon, definitely a dramatic end to this manhunt. >> definitely a dramatic end, we're expecting the parents sometime this morning, between 9:00 a.m. and 12:00 p.m., appearing via video for that arraignment. we know that arraignment was supposed to have happened yesterday, after a massive manhunt. it started about noon p.m. yesterday when we had the county prosecutor announce those charges of involuntary manslaughter, or involuntary manslaughter against those parents. they never turned themselves in despite prior communication between their attorneys and the county sheriff by 3:00 p.m. there was a be on the lookout advisory that went out to local law enforcement, and we saw late into the evening we got wanted posters with a $10,000 reward for any information leading to their arrest. well, there was a tip that went into the detroit pd around 10:30 p.m. last night leading to that massive foot search for them in

detroit, and they are eventually apprehended in the overnight hours. when we listen to what we heard from the police chief yesterday or really overnight he said it wasn't just them alone. they possibly had some help. listen here. >> any indication that they were aided in getting into the building? >> yes, in fact, they were aided and we're looking at that portion of the investigation. that part is very active right now. >> do you expect to be further charks charges? >> last likely to be charges, we've got two prosecutors involved in that part. >> someone let them in. >> they did not break in. >> someone let them in. >> yes. >> now he also said when they were apprehended they did not resist and they were pretty quickly taken into custody. now, just a reminder for why the prosecutor filed these charges against these two parents. the prosecutor made the point that these were the only two individuals who knew some key things about the 15-year-old suspected shooter in tuesday 'school shooting. they knew that there were

concerns about this shooter's behavior. they knew the prosecutor says that they had depictions, that this 15-year-old had thoughts and fantasies about shooting other people and actually drew them out and they were the only ones who knew that he had a weapon at his disposal, or a weapon that he had access to, and they know that because that weapon was purchased last week on black friday in his presence. because of those facts the prosecutor is saying their action and inaction was criminal, and that they were somewhat responsible for tuesday's shooting. >> shaq, thank you for those late breaking details this morning, we appreciate it. for what comes next let's bring in our panel, sarah azari, criminal defense attorney, and cedric alexander is an msnbc law enforcement analyst. good morning to both of you. cedric, starting with you, when shaq is saying investigators are looking at who may have helped the crumbley's hide, what are they looking for and what could that person be facing? >> they're making some

determination as this investigation will be ongoing now, that they have been captured, to determine if others did aid and abet in their taking off, knowing that they were going to be arrested for criminal felony charges. so i think at some point this investigation certainly going to provide to us who was involved, when were they involved, and how much did they know about this as it relates to the crumbley's to help them to escape. but kudos, big kudos to detroit police department and the great work that they did to bring this to an end without incident. >> sarah, the parents could now be facing more charges for allegedly trying to avoid arrest. how much could that affect this case? >> yeah, good morning, lindsey. you know, the parents have some problems, right, in addition to the involuntary manslaughter charges they're facing, four counts each, up to 15 years in

prison if convicted. they have now boxed themselves into a situation where at this arraignment, when the issue of detention comes up, they will probably not get bond because now they've proven that they are a flight risk, and also when you try to flee, that is evidence of consciousness of guilt that will just come up in their trial. if you haven't done anything wrong, why would you run away? and of course anybody that helped harbor a fugitive, which they were, is also liable in this scenario. so, you know, they made the situation far worse for themselves by escaping. >> cedric, what do you make of the timeline here? some people are criticizing the prosecutor for announcing the charges against the parents before they were in custody. is that a fair criticism? >> well, i'm not sure because here's the uniqueness of this case. we have never seen a case like this, and i'm not an attorney, but certainly in my number of years as a law man we've never

seen a case like this where you had an active shooter, in this case a child, and then subsequent to that, the parents were charged. so this is going to be new. and so therefore i would probably only guess that through this process where some trial and error, i think there were some things to be learned here. but i think their efforts to go that step, to take that step in charging these parents is something new, and unique. and i think is personally, as a law man, long overdue. we'll see as time goes forward. >> sarah, building off of what cedric said, because these involuntary manslaughter charges against the parents of the suspect are so rare in a school shooting. what's the burden of proof here and how strong of a case do you think prosecutors have from what we know so far? >> you know, lindsey, typically criminal cases involve an act, not an omission. but there are plenty of cases that involve omissions. for example, child neglect

cases, right, involving what you didn't do to protect a child. so i've had many of those. it is rare. but it is definitely, in this circumstance, you know, there's some compelling evidence. you have the text messages where she says lol, just don't get caught. that's endorsement, that's encouragement, it's criminal. worse than that, the golden nugget here is the -- basically the note where he planned out, and drew out what he was about to do, and they didn't pull him out of school. so, yeah, it is rare. it might be a little bit of a challenge for the prosecution because these are inactions as opposed to actions but i think they can prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt for sure with respect to these parents. as much as the charges are unprecedented, the facts are also extremely egregious and unprecedented. one thing, lindsey, to cedric's point as an attorney i have never seen charges being announced before somebody's apprehended and in custody. it's just extremely rare. and i think something happened in terms of miscommunication

between the sheriffs and the da here. >> cedric, on that note, you did commend law enforcement in bringing these people in without any kind of incident in a safe way, in which no one was harmed. what do you think that they did successfully here in this case to bring this to that resolution? >> well, i think a number of things took place. first, you had a community there, clearly, a community who was very much alert, people who were on the lookout because i'm quite sure there were a number of be on the lookouts throughout the community. when they observed one of the crumbley, their investigation as a citizen. did the right thing, notified 911, gathered information, police responded, set up perimeters. they called out s.w.a.t. they did everything textbook, and were able to apprehend them without incident.

so this certainly could have been a case that went south terribly bad. but under the circumstances in which this occurred they were brought into custody. so detroit police department along with the community there, and other law enforcement agencies that were very much a part of this process, really have done a stellar job. and i think the community there in oakland county and in detroit across this country are glad to see this come to an end. >> sara, we've talked about what the -- the fact this they were fugitives for a short time, could do to this case and we've talked about the burden of proof here for these charges. but do you think that potentially this sets some kind of precedent as we do unfortunately see tragic events like this in which parents could come into sharper focus? >> unfortunately, i don't. i think that this is a rare set of facts, which is why the prosecutor was so bold in

bringing these charges. but we don't typically see these fact patterns. you know, lindsey, in these school shootings, we see parents that are neglectful in the way that they leave the gun out. they give access to a minor to their gun but we don't see these extra neglectful acts of knowing that your child is going to shoot, knowing he has -- he's a mental crisis, and then not doing anything. so that's what makes this case so different. and also, you know, the burden of proof, although it's beyond a reasonable doubt, the crime of involuntary manslaughter in michigan in most states does not require intent. all it takes is an accidental killing of another human being, with criminal negligence, and that's why i think the prosecution has a good case here. >> sara, cedric, we will have to hold it there but thank you for joining us on this late breaking overnight news. we appreciate it. a new day, a new state reporting cases of the omicron

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welcome back, everybody, utah is now the latest state to join the growing list of confirmed cases of the omicron variant. earlier this week president biden laying out the nation's plan to combat this latest variant with a focus on vaccinations, boosters and testing over shutdowns and lockdowns, the cdc director rochelle walensky spoke to ari melber on "the beat" last night for our best defense. >> on the most recent data you are six times more likely to get infected. 11 times more likely to get

hospitalized and 14 more likely to die. >> we know they're taking a similar route as the president, they say now isn't the time for knee jerk reactions for shutdowns. >> reporter: both national and local leaders both emphasizing masking, vaccines and boosters. over mask mandates and lockdowns, that's the situation right now. and one thing that is clear, though, this weekend is that the omicron variant is spreading. take a look, we have a list of the 12 states with confirmed cases of that new variant, one of those states is new york where five cases have been reported. one of them here, we're outside the javits center in new york city where there was an anime convention two weeks ago, one of the 53,000 attendees is confirmed to have tested for the omicron variant, causing concern, new york officials

asking anyone who attended the convention to get tested. meanwhile, other states are in similar situations, trying to figure out just what their response should be, many of them choosing to follow the federal guidelines right now. officials emphasize the vaccines and booster shots are best bets right now, even though it's not clear just how capable the variant is of sidestepping the vaccine's protection. since so much is unknown, local leaders, and even the president signaling lockdowns aren't on the agenda right now. here's what president biden had to say. >> we're going to fight this variance with science and speed, not chaos and confusion. just like we beat back covid-19 in the spring, and more powerful variant, delta variant, in the summer and fall. >> reporter: initial data from south africa says the omicron variant may spread twice as quickly as delta, something other countries are trying to confirm. meanwhile, the emphasis still on those boosters. lindsey? >> we're going to turn to a doctor right now to ask about

that. steven romo, thank you. let's bring in dr. -- a senior scholar at the john hopkins center for health and security at the bloomberg school of public health. good to be with you this morning, thanks for being here. we know this variant has been detected in at least 12 states here, any evidence so far that this will become the dominant variant. >> there's a suggestion, based on modeling in the rise of this variant in certain places like south africa that it may be able to displace delta. the fact that it can get around prior immunity and cause breakthrough infections is very advantageous for this variant and it may be something over time that becomes the dominant variant. it's a situation where we have a lot of questions that need to be answered. getting closer to those answers but we have to be prepared for this being the variant that displaces delta. we want to see how well it fares in a country like the u.s. where we have a lot of delta and a moderate level of vaccination. we can't completely extrapolate

everything from south africa. we're only 25% or so of the population is fully vaccinated to the u.s., where we've got higher vaccination rates and much higher rates of delta, so that this virus has a lot more to compete with here than in south africa. >> well, in cases of tripled in the last three days in south africa, as we heard steven say scientists report omicron travels much fast. their vaccination is much lower. is there data -- to say it's more transmissible? >> it's clear this is definitely displacing delta in south africa. but how we extrapolate that to the rest of the world, as i just said, is going to require some data because you can't take everything from the unique circumstances in south africa and say that that's going to apply to the u.s. or other countries. so we still need to do a lot more research to understand what these mutations are doing, how this virus competes with other variants, how its transmissibility is arrived at. is it intrinsically more

transmissible or because it's getting around immunity and that's making it appear to be more transmissible. it is more transmissible, clearly in south africa but there's evolutionary types of science that need to be done before we can say things definitively but we're getting more information on a day-to-day basis. >> do we know what the federal and local governments are leaning towards vaccination and boosters, but other countries are putting in more draconian measures. republicans threatened to force a government shutdown over the president's vaccine mandates in the workplace. do you worry politics could get in the way of the u.s. response as we see this spread? >> there's no doubt politics is part of the response but i agree with those who do not think this is something that merits a lockdown. that's a last resort and remember, just because this variant has some mutations doesn't mean that it sets us back to january, february, march of 2020. we've come a long way since that time. we've learned a lot about this virus, how it transmits. we have vaccines, monoclonal

antibodies, rapid tests, anti virals. even if this gets around the vaccine to some degree vaccines are not all or none. it's not going to erase everything a vaccine does for us. if you look at the early data from south africa and this is going to be born out, the vaccine does protect against serious disease, hospitalization and death and that in the end has been the overarching goal to keep hospital capacity afloat. infections and break through infections are important to track but less important than series disease, hospitalization and death. if our vaccines are holding they remain the solution to preventing severe disease from this variant. >> we're going to end on that sliver of hope there, and good news. doctor, thank you so much. still ahead, we're going to get back to that breaking news out of detroit where the parents of a suspected school shooter are awaiting arraignment. after being arrested overnight after an hours long manhunt. another live report next.

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we want to get back to that breaking news in michigan, where expecting the parents of the school shooting suspect there to make their first court appearance in about 90 minutes. you're looking at the new booking photos for james and jennifer crumbley who were arrested overnight after an hours long manhunt. they're facing involuntary manslaughter charges in that school shooting allegedly carried out by their 15-year-old son ethan. meghan fitzgerald is in pontiac, michigan this morning for us. a busy night for law enforcement there. >> you've got that right, lindsey. the couple just being arrested hours ago after this massive manhunt with multiple law enforcement agencies, even a $10,000 reward. this morning james and jennifer crumbley are in custody after an hours long manhunt led to their arrest overnight. >> the vehicle is a black kia. it's the possible vehicle of the two parents of the oxford

situation. >> reporter: the couple found hiding in a commercial building after police received a tip. >> they certainly appeared to be distressed. >> reporter: authorities say the parents of accused michigan school shooter ethan crumbley failed to show up for their arraignment friday before they were finally captured hours later. each charged with four counts of involuntary manslaughter in connection with tuesday's deadly attack at oxford high school. but attorneys for the couple said friday night the pair had always planned on turning themselves in, all this as prosecutors allege new details about the couple's action in the lead-up to tuesday's shooting. >> the facts of this case are so egregious. >> reporter: the prosecutor saying 15-year-old ethan crumbley was with his father last week when he purchased the semiautomatic handgun. his mother saying on social media it was her son's quote christmas present. authorities say there were warning signs early that week when a teacher caught the suspect searching for ammunition

online, his parents ignoring calls from the school, his mother texting her son, quote, lol, i'm not mad at you. you have to learn not to get caught. and then the day of the attack, a teacher discovering disturbing drawings made by the suspect. >> a drawing of a semiautomatic handgun pointing at the words, quote, the thoughts won't stop, help me, end quote. >> reporter: both parents called to the school and shown the drawings but they never searched their son's backpack or told the school their son had access to a gun. >> the notion that a parent could read those words and also know that their son had access to a deadly weapon, that they gave him, is unconscionable and i think it's criminal. >> reporter: the suspect was allowed to return to class, hours later investigators say he went on a shooting spree, not long after an alleged text from jennifer crumbley to her son saying quote, ethan, don't do it. after hearing about the incident james crumbley went back to his

home so terj for the gun, realizing it was missing, he called 911 saying his son may be the shooter. now the school superintendent is defending their decision not to discipline the suspect, saying disciplinary action wasn't warranted but the prosecutor says this investigation is not over, and that school officials could still face charges. lindsey? >> such disturbing details, meagan fitzgerald, thanks so much. congress checked one thing off their christmas to do list by kicking the can down the road on government funding. the work is far from over. can it all get done before the holidays?

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they say that now is the time to finally pull it across the finish line. we know that administration officials have been in constant communication with senators on capitol hill, with members of the budget community -- committee urging them to finally get this passed. the president himself has made phone calls to some senators, just this past week, and we expect him to give a speech on monday at the white house, urging congress to pass this piece of legislation. with a particular emphasis on prescription drugs. that's one of the most popular components of this plan. and, lindsey, in just about every single speech that we heard from the president this past week, whether it was on covid, or the economy, he always brought it back to build back better. really underscoring just how important this piece of legislation is to his economic agenda, especially as we head into midterm elections year in just a few weeks from now. now, the white house has said they are confident they can stick to this christmas deadline, but you and i have

stood here, many, many weekends, talking about these deadlines that they have set and watched them blow right past it. i think we should be looking at this christmas deadline with a healthy dose of skepticism, lindsey. >> lauren, healthy dose of skepticism is always -- that november jobs report, sending some mixed messages here, as we're hitting -- getting hit right now with this emerging variant, what is the white house saying how they're interpreting this? >> reporter: that's right, that november jobs report was a bit disappointing. some experts had expected a lot more jobs to get added, just about 210,000 were added. but the president pointed to the unemployment rate, which dropped to 4.2%. that is the lowest that we have seen all year. and he said that that was a sign of immense progress, that we are moving in the right direction. but he said that he recognized there are still a lot of anxieties around the country, that many americans have concerns about rising costs, supply chain issues and now, of course, this new covid variant.

listen to what he had to say about it yesterday. >> now it's time to build on the success we had this year on jobs, wages, creation of more small businesses, fixing challenges in the economy. we need to cut costs, further, for families. that's what my build back better plan does, still being considered in congress and it will lower the out of pocket costs for child care, elder care, housing, college, health care, prescription drugs. >> reporter: the president said that he's not sure how this new covid variant will impact the economy and supply chains. it is, of course, an area of concern. but we simply just don't have enough information on it yet. lindsey? >> all right, president biden there with a little bit of a cold there. he says. blaming his grandson. says his grandson likes to hug and kiss pop. all right, lauren egan, thanks so much. deposition delayed, a former trump doj official won't be grilled today by the january 6th

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well, today was supposed to be a busy day for the house committee investigating the january 6th insurrection. they were originally scheduled to have a tension with former justice department jeffrey clark today but clark's team informed the committee of a medical issue that would force a postponement which the committee agreed to. another key figure, john eastman, the right wing attorney who tried to pressure vice president mike pence to overturn the election. in a letter to the committee his attorney says he will take the fifth amendment in response to the subpoena. staying on top of all of this for us is julie tsirkin live on capitol hill. a lot of postponements for the

january 6th committee this week. >> reporter: let's remember the ultimate goal of the committee. they want to get information from the witnesses. and, look, referring them for criminal contempt of congress won't always guarantee that will happen. steve bannon they referred for criminal contempt of congress a couple weeks ago later indicted by the justice department he was supposed to serve as a warning shot to the other witnesses going down the same path of defying subpoenas. turning to jeffrey clark, moments before the committee was set to vote on a report referring clark for contempt of congress on wednesday, chair benny thompson, and vice chair liz cheney said we just heard from clark's lawyer he does want to appear before the committee but he will plead the fifth amendment which, of course, is in his right to do so. it means he believes some questions he may answer could possibly self-incriminate him so we know that that happened on wednesday and as you mentioned at the top he was supposed to appear this morning in this building but his lawyers, again,

sent another letter to the committee yesterday saying, actually, he has a medical condition that he has to deal with, and it will prevent him from appearing before the committee until december 16th. that's his new deposition date that benny thompson outlined yesterday in a short statement last night. let's hear from adam schiff, a member of the january 6th select committee. hear what he had so say last night on msnbc. watch. >> the committee is satisfied that it is genuine, that is there's ample documentation, this is not, yet another ruse, and frankly given his pattern of, you know, spending weeks when we're trying to get his voluntary cooperation, stringing us along, then being subpoenaed, then coming in, and refusing to testify, and then on the eve of holding him in contempt, a new claim, this time, that he's going to invoke his fifth amendment right. that was, among the, all the many disparate claims he made when he showed up for the deposition. he never suggested at that time that he believed what he said

would incriminate him. that's a new defense. >> so while the committee buys the defense of a medical condition he said he provided ample documentation, they're not just going to wait around forever. they did take the vote unanimously in the committee, referring this contempt report to the full house for a vote, which is sort of on pause now as they wait to see what happens next. now, you also have john eastman that you mentioned at the top, the former trump campaign attorney who tried to pressure the former vice president to, indeed, overturn the election on january 6th. of course he didn't do that. he also says, now look, i'm going to invoke the fifth amendment here, ironically said that on steve bannon's radio show this week so we're going to see in the next few weeks how everything shakes out. lindsey? >> julie, thank you. let's discuss this further with michigan congressman and chief deputy whip for the house caucus, dan kildee. what do you make of these postponements? >> it's frustrating. we're a month away from the

one-year anniversary of the terrible attack. when they were smashing the glass trying to get into the u.s. house of representatives i was on the other side of that glass. this is personal for a lot of us. this is an attack on our country, on our democracy, and i think it's important that if we all step back and realize what's happening here, the people who may have been involved in perpetrating this attack, or at least supporting the perpetrators of this attack, from within our own government, are refusing to answer questions about what was essentially a coup against our country. this is really chilling. and i think the committee's doing the right thing to use every tool it has at its disposal to make sure that the truth comes out and that the historical record is accurate and that people who need to be held accountable are held accountable. >> and what about this wave of fifth amendment claims? do you get a feeling that people are losing confidence that executive privilege will work?

>> that does appear to be the case. i think the executive privilege argument was always pretty thin. they were using it, it seemed to me, primarily as a delay tactic. but the notion they would assert their fifth amendment rights. look, we cherish our constitutional rights and we ought not diminish the right of a person to not be compelled to testify against themselves if, and only if they have a reasonable apprehension, that the testimony that they would provide could be incriminating. it's not a get out of jail free card in the sense that they are not compelled to provide any information whatsoever. but again, it's really interesting. if we step back from this. just to get a sense of where we are. where these very senior officials, in the trump administration, are either not complying with subpoenas, or asserting their fifth amendment rights because they're afraid that what they provide might be

incriminating. that context ought to really be, you know, chilling to the american people. and it seems to me that some of my republican colleagues in the house of representatives in particular haven't understood the gravity of all of this. they continue to paper it over or look the other way or in some ways make excuses for people who may have been part of a coup attempt against the united states government, and are now being defended by members of the very house of representatives that was under attack. it's beyond comprehension. >> want to talk to you about the other party for a home. we saw more toxic behavior in the republican caucus with lauren vobert's behavior toward ilhan omar. and one op-ed writer argues that they are the leaders of the party now, not the fringe. who do you see as leading this party and has mccarthy lost control? >> well, kevin mccarthy's not leading it.

he is following from the front. he is theoretically the chair of that conference, or the leader of that conference. but he does not call the tune. marjorie taylor greene, lauren seem to be the ones setting the standard for the republican conference and there's only a few courageous members of that conference who are willing to speak up against them. kevin mccarthy is not one of them. >> congressman, real quick before we have to let you go, the breaking news in your state and your reaction to the prosecutor charging the parents of the school shooting suspect in the dramatic early warning arrest. >> i never pre-judge a criminal case but glad to see the prosecutors going every avenue to hold the parents potentially accountable. all the facts we've seen seem to indicate they created an environment that did not dissuade their young child from being involved this this

terrible, terrible incident. of course, in michigan right now, we're hurting. my colleague, alyssa slatkin, in particular, represents families that have lost loved ones as a result of this. it's a very sad time for us. >> hearts go out to your community. congressman, thank you so much. 800 miles every month is an exhausting commute but one doctor does it without complaint to provide abortion services in underserved communities. she joins us live to share her story and how the chance of roe v. wade getting overturned is phewing her mission. wade getti phewing her mission. with downy infusions, let the scent set the mood. feel the difference with downy.

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>> on the roe v. wade precedent, many believe the supreme court conservative justices could be ready to overturn the landmark case. they heard oral arguments in the most important reproductive rights in decades. mississippi banning after 15 weeks of pregnancy. we won't find out what will happen for a few months when the court expected to issue its ruling but look at the states that could ban or restrict abortions if roe v. wade is overturned. there would be millions of people to travel hundreds of miles to have a safe and legal abortion. what does the public think of all this? according to a gallup poll, only 32% of americans want to see it overturned.

amira shaw with us. here, you make an 800 mile commute. tell me about this. >> that is correct. so i, once a month, fly to south bend, indiana, to provide abortion care. indiana is a state that has many restrictions around abortion access and they prevent advanced practice clinicians from providing medication abortions. as a physician, i have to fly there to hand out to patients and something advanced practice could do and are doing in states such as new york where i was in my practice. >> this is a personal sacrifice for you. why is this important work for you? >> i've known very early on in my career that preserving access to abortion care is essential and life affirming for many

people. i decided this would be a core of my career and do whatever it took to preserve access. whether it's training or abortion providers or flying great distances to provide abortion care or advocating on a national and state level to preserve abortion access. >> so when we see what's going on right now in the supreme court, what do you think people are missing when it comes to how this debate affects people living through these situations? >> that's a great question. and i think that abortion is greatly misunderstood. i think that, and i know that as a physician, it is an essential health care service that people need and will continue to need even if roe is overturned and abortion access essentially becomes unavailable in what is over 26 states in this country. it is one out of four women

access abortion care in their lifetime. they'll continue to do so whether traveling great lengths or abortion care outside of the medical system and unfortunately, many people will have to continue a pregnancy against their will if abortion access becomes unavailable. >> only have a few seconds left with you but there's a new texas law banning medication abortion after seven weeks. it went into effect this week. doctors who violate the law could get two years of jail time. what's your reaction? >> texas has been a tough case for what the future of abortion records in this country, it could very much look like. you know, it terrifies me and it's a reminder that people, american people need and want abortion access to be preserved but politicians aren't making sure that that happens and what we're seeing in texas is scary. patients have to travel and be

forced into pregnancy and seeking abortion care outside of the health care system and we need to do everything we can in our power to fight for access and make sure it's preserved. >> dr. meera shaw, thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> i'll be back tomorrow. velshi starts right now. today on velshi, a michigan manhunt is over. now awaiting the first court appearance of the parents of suspected school shooter who are themselves charged in the shooting. they were taken into custody overnight after a tip led police to a commercial building in detroit. we're going to have a live report on this deeply disturbing story out of michigan happening now. plus, omicron is now spreading twice as quickly as the delta variant in south africa. it's already here in the united states. we're going to have the very latest on what might be the next covid wave. then congressional investigators

are squaring off against one of the central players in the failed former president's plot to overturn the 2020 election. meanwhile, we've got the star witness of the week, a man who testified over four hours this week in front of the select committee, investigating the january 6th insurrection. georgia, secretary of state, brad rathensberger with how he answered questions about donald trump's demand he find more votes and jennifer granholm at an offshore wind farm in rhode island this week and asked her about touching the political third rail of nuclear generated power. had answers to that and many more about climate infrastructure and biden agenda politics coming up. velshi begins right now. good morning to you. it is saturday, december 4th. i'm ali velshi. the c