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although they did manage to avert a government shutdown this week, there remains so much of the people's business that has yet to be completed. the build back better plan, our national defense budget and an increase to the debt ceiling. democrats will need every accomplishment they can get to fend off republicans in the midterm and we got a reminder this week just how consequential every election can be. the conservative majority supreme court built by former president trump heard arguments in an abortion rights case that experts warn could end roe versus wade as we know it. barring a surprise ruling, the only way to reverse the rightward march of the court is to elect more democrats to the house and senate. and the way to do that is to deliver for the people. and even that may not be enough
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on its own. missing from the list of year-end ledge lay five priorities i just listed for democrats is the existential issue of voting rights. with republicans doing everything they can at the state and local level to skew elections in their favor. it's a ticking time bomb that democrats must address before it's too late. let's begin. joining me now here on set, congresswoman carolyn maloney. always good to have you with us, congresswoman. let me ask you this. both chambers are able to pass a continuing resolution to funding the government through february 18th, allowing us to avoid shutdown for another two months. of course that leaves democrats with just under four weeks to get the build back better act passed in the senate.
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there's an annual defense budget and debt ceiling negotiations. i'll save my question on the bbb, but to start you i'll ask you, what are the consequences if democrats aren't able to get it all done before the new year? >> well, i'd have to say that failure's impossible and i'm not talking about consequences, i'm thinking about how we're going to get it done, how we're going to move it over the goal line and help the american people. president biden has already done so much with the american rescue plan, with the infrastructure plan, but we have 2 1/2 done, we have another half to do, we have to pass the build back better in the senate and we need to get it over the finish line and that's what we're working on. >> congresswoman, i've known you a long time, i know how staunchly you advocated in congress for the expansion of reproductive rights, calling for the senate's passage of the women's health protection act
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and an end to the hyde amendment. can you tell us what both actions would do to protect access to abortion nationwide, if, indeed, the pending decision in mississippi versus jackson women's health center and why this issue means so much to you. >> well, first of all, i can't believe we're doing this fight. i thought this was settled law in 1973 and this is the consequences of an election. elections have consequences and he appointed -- trump appointed this conservative court that is rolling back a woman's right to choose. the mississippi law, not only does it repeal a woman's right to choose, but it takes away any exception for incest or rape for girls and for women. it is an outrageous step backwards. by passing the statutory, we are codifying, putting into law roe v. wade, we passed it in the
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house, we need to pass it in the senate. and the hyde amendment really is so cruel, because it takes away the funding and support for abortion for poor people. and we need to have abortion rights for everyone. so, those are two very important issues and we're fighting back. i was there this week at the demonstration at the supreme court, i really listened to the arguments, i was stunned at the hypocrisy of the conservative justices that imply that they would respect precedent, they'd respect law and now they're questioning -- very much on the other side, very much indicaing they'll do the unthinkable, rolling back roe v. wade, but we need to pass it, we need to put it into law and i am having a press conference on monday at the planned parenthood headquarters here in new york and the newly elected women to
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the city council, the assembly, the state senate, all young, vigorous, smart, many of them joining us with a strategy session, press conference and steps that we want to take. one thing we need to do is ratify the equal rights amendment, so that there is a framework in the constitution to protect women. as justice sotomayor said, if you roll back roe, then you put in jeopardy every single privacy decision that the supreme court has ever made, including the griswold decision and the right to contraception, even, all of these privacy -- it rolls all of that back. it's very, very serious. and one way we can fight back, we -- these justices are there. we can try to change the document itself, the constitution so they are limited in the damage they can do in this conservative court. >> that is something we really are going to have to look at, because it's very serious what
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we're facing. we will see a senate vote on the build back better act before the end of this month, this year, do you believe? >> i believe. last week, the new york delegation met with senator schumer and governor hochul about pressing issues including this one. it is the top priority of the senate leader who happens to come from the great state of new york and he is very competent and dedicated towards achieving this. i think we should all support him and make the message as clear as possible. this thursday, i'm having a hearing on lowering the cost of prescription drugs, which is an important part of build back better. it would limit what they can charge for insulin to $35 a month for all the people with diabetes. people are dying because they can't afford the high rates. it's very important. we've done a series of hearings on what lowering the cost of prescription drugs, allowing our
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government to negotiate for lower prices, which all other countries in the world can do, but not ours. we need to change that. and lower the cost of prescription drugs, the cost of health care that's just one aspect. i think all of us, we'll be work ing on different segments of the bill and making the case of what it means to the american people. it's the most transformational bill i've ever had the opportunity to vote on, on what it's going to mean to individuals in helping their lives and lowering the gap between the haves and the have nots, the child care tax credit alone lifts half the children out of poverty in our country. it is a fundamentally important bill. it is one of three major pieces of legislation that president biden has put forward. we cannot fail. we must succeed for the american people and the strength of our country. >> now, congresswoman, before we lose you, infections of omicron -- the omicron variant of covid-19 have been found in
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half a dozen u.s. states, including this one, new york. the white house announced its response plan this week, calling for in-home testing as well as boosters for millions of americans. as we wait on winter here in new york, how concerned are you about this variant? >> i'm deeply concerned, but i'm also encouraged that we're better prepared. new york was the epicenter of the epicenter. the country has come forward with new treatments, they've come forward with better training and the vaccines, everybody over, i think it's 8 now can -- 5 can be vaccinated, so, everybody should get vaccinated. and if you are vaccinated and haven't been vaccinated in six months, you should go out and get the booster. it's free, it's available, the testing is out there. the biden administration has responded with great leadership, i think, in comes baaing combatting the crisis of the
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coronavirus and we have to be prepared for the new variants. i'm trying to get a health care center at every single housing development. many of these housing developments are like small towns. they have thousands of people living there. we should have -- and some of the most undervaccinated areas are these housing developments. i'm trying to get health care centers. i opened up one at queens bridge. i hope we'll have one at astoria houses. >> i totally agree, because many of them are in health care deserts. thank you for being with us, congresswoman maloney. joining me now is our msnbc political analyst and democratic strat ji juanita tolliver and msnbc political analyst susan delpressio. juanita, let me go to you first. there's a lot of concern about roe versus wade after the supreme court heard arguments
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wednesday about mississippi's law that bans the procedure after 15 weeks of pregnancy. a ruling likely won't come until the summer, when the decision could have a major impact on the midterm elections. howl do you see the politics of this case playing out? >> i think justice sotomayor named the politics of the case during the oral argument when she said that this was brought forward, these legislators brought this case forward, brought this bill forward because of the composition of the court changed and trumpjust. this is something that is going to mobilize people up and down the ticket to get people out to vote in response to this issue, because the threat is so real, rev. and i think what justice sew mow mayor said it was kind of a wink to organizers say, don't just organize at federal level, but
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it's organize at the state house level where we see these republican-led state houses, 21 of which have trigger laws on the books or laws that will be reinstated if roe is gutted. so, the warning is clear here, and i think all eyes need to go to congress now for action and accountability, because they have full power to codify roe into law to make sure that the harmful decision that could potentially come down from the supreme court will not harm pregnant people or people who are poor, people who are lgbtq, people who are living in rural communities where accessing reproductive care and abortion care is that much more difficult. >> now, susan, congress narrowly, narrowly avoided a government shutdown this week by passing temporary funding that president biden signed on friday. which will by law make us some time, as they come face-to-face with other items on their to-do list like the debt ceiling, the build back better act and the national defense authorization
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act before the calendar year ends. but time is ticking. what do you predict will happen? >> the defense -- the national defense authorization act will pass before the end of the year, the debt ceiling, there's some time that can be bought until mid-january, but there's a chance. i do not think the build back better will pass before christmas, like they're hoping for. they have to sell this message better. someone said it to me the other day, the child tax credit is going to end december 31st. if you want to keep it, call your legislatures and you use that as a steppingstone to force this bill through. that's a real tangible that people will not have, come december 31st. >> now, juanita, also on my mind, this week is president biden's nothing is off the table response in regards to the new
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covid-19 variant that is being detected in more and more states across the united states. republicans have tried to politicize this public health crisis every step of the way. what is the best course forward for the white house? >> look, i think the white house was right to come forward with their emphasis on testing, which we heard from the president, their emphasis on new travel requirements for international travelers, as well as reminding people of the mask requirements on public transportation, but i think they should go forward. issue blanket mask mandates. because that is going to be critical to stopping the spread of covid. and as we anticipate these spikes in winter. >> and instead of doing insurance reimbursements through insurance companies, just mail everybody at at-home test. make it fully available and accessible and on the return address say "from the white house" so people know you are delivering aid to them, you are delivering the support they need
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to feel safe throughout this winter when more people are going to be gathering with their families in their homes. i think the other thing, any of the travel requirements should be applied domestically as well. republican state leaders are flouting the requirements. so, make the same requirements for international travelers apply to domestic travelers, as well. and above all, rev, combat the disinformation that has led to, what, nearly 40% of the public to still not be vaccinated. without those baseline vaccinations, we're going to be in this perpetual pandemic for the foreseeable future. >> right. right. and susan, this weekend, oxford high school in michigan, four children were shot dead by a 15-year-old school shooter. at this point, school shootings have become a disturbing part of life for children in america. and the gun control debate has gone nowhere. and is never ending. according to every town this year, so far, it has had 144
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gunfire incidents happen on school property, resulting in 28 deaths. how, as a country, have we allowed this to become part of daily life? i mean, why has congress done nothing to stop this? >> well, rev, we have to stop looking to washington for some of these issues. not because they shouldn't do it, they should, but they won't do it. you're not going to break the filibuster over gun safety. it's just not going to happen in the current environment. but what every town did was really go after, in 2018 and 2020, state legislative races. that's where this stuff is going to get done, it's got to get done at the state level. we need stricter laws, there's no doubt about it. and as those states get more stricter gun laws on the books, as those people rise to levels of congress or u.s. senate, you will see people with a record down in washington who can push it. but it's got to be done within
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the states. >> juanita, on this show, we highlight every single week the fight for voting rights that is going on now across this country. and this week, in tennessee, the republican-led state legislature has refused to release redistricting proposals, raising concern that nashville, a blue city, may get broken up. what is the concern here in terms of ensuring that disenfranchised voters, especially communities of color, get fair representation, especially in a red state like tennessee? >> in a red state like tennessee, and rev, i don't know if you know, i was raised in memphis, tennessee, where i could see this happening. so, to think of nashville being divided into multiple congressional districts, something like franklin county, where majority minority districts are being
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eliminated -- this is what the gop playbook is and it's not just happening in tennessee, it's happening in gop-led legislatures across the country, because they look at redistricting as an opportunity to silence black and brown voters. they look at redistricting as an opportunity to give themselves a leg up, to make sure that they have whatever representation they want and removing that power from the voters. essentially removing the basic power of individual voters. and that's what's harmful here and that's the trend we've seen across the country. i come back to this every week we talk about this, rev, congress cannot ignore this. and so all eyes need to be on senate democrats in passing the freedom to vote act, the john lewis voting rights advancement act, because they have the solutions to make sure there's a national standard for redistricting so voters, especially black and brown and marginalized voters are not silenced in their elections at moment. >> juanita, susan, thank you for joining me. up next, republicans spent
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years chipping away at roe versus wade and now abortion rights are in peril. in today's gotcha, i'll tell you what the gop is up to next and why democrats need to pay attention. but first, my colleague richard with today's top news stories. rev, good saturday. we're going to start with breaking news for you. michigan law enforcement says another person could face charges related to hiding the parents of a school shooting suspect. those parents, james and jennifer crumbley, are being held on a combined million dollars bail after pleading not guilty to involuntary manslaughter charges. they were found in a detroit warehouse where police say they spent the night. their 15-year-old son is accused of killing four and injuring seven at a metro detroit high school. he's being tried as an adult on murder, assault and weapons charges. authorities believing the parents bought that gun, allegedly used in the shooting as a gift for their son. the cdc added more countries to its travel advisory list.
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concern is rising about the covid omicron variant. they urge u.s. residents to avoid travel to poland, trinidad and tobago, niger and papua new guinea. and a volcanic eruption injured 41 people in indonesia. thousands were forced from their homes. this volcano is java's highest peak and part of the ring of fire that stretches across the pacific ocean. more "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton right after this break. (vo) subaru and our retailers believe in giving back. that's why, in difficult times, we provided one hundred and fifty million meals to feeding america. and now through the subaru share the love event, we're helping even more. by the end of this year, subaru will have donated over two hundred and twenty five million dollars to charity. this is what it means to be more than a car company.
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roe versus wade, in a case that was challenging to that law. experts expect the conservative-dominated court will uphold mississippi's restrictive abortion law, gutting federal protections in place for half a century. it's laughable now. but for decades like reagan and both bushes claim they would say with a straight face that while they personally oppose abortion, they would never apply a so-called litmus test to their judicial nominees. democrats went allow with that charade. to pay back his religious-right
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supporters. democrats finally realized that roe was in trouble. we don't know how it will play out yet, but we can still learn lessons. but once again, republicans are trying to lull democrats into a false sense of complacency. during the trump years, republicans told democrats his wild conspiracy theories and open content for democracy was just a personality quirk. they claimed he would hand over power peacefully and quietly and when he didn't, they insisted we move on and forget it. even as they used the seeds of doubt that trump sowed to pass voter suppression laws and put electoral power in the hands of
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republican party loyalists. we've seen this before from the gop. we know where they're head and it's nowhere good. but there still is time to fight back. there are bills in congress right now, including the john lewis voting rights act and the for the people act that can protect our democracy. we must prioritize their passage, even if it means eliminating the senate filibuster. democrats cannot repeat past mistakes, going into 2022 and 2024, as vulnerable as they were in 2016. republicans have sown over and over that they will pay lip service to civility and then stop at nothing to get what they want. let's tell them we won't be fooled again. we got you. n the moment♪ ♪i'd let you had i known it, why don't you say so?♪
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as 2021 winds down, republicans are escalating their hateful rhetoric towards democrats. democratic women of color are some of their favorite targets. republican colorado congresswoman lauren bow bert drew widespread criticism for comparing minnesota representative ilhan omar to a suicide bomber. but has yet to face consequences from her party for her islamophobic comments. joining me now, political analyst ere inhaynes and ebony c. riley, washington bureau chief for the national action network, who has recently been appointed the senior vice president of strategic planning and policy. the highest rank under decades old history of action network, i may add. thank you both for joining us
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tonight. let's get right into it. kevin mccarthy is defending boebert claiming she's already apologized to the muslim community, even though she actually doubled down on attacking omar in a phone call between the two lawmakers. erin, let me start with you. is there any scenario in which omar gets an apology from the house gop caucus? and if not, why not? >> well, first, it's good to be with you, ever rend, al. and congratulations, ebony. i'm here for women's leadership, i want to note that that is huge news, but look. you can take what you want from the apology that representative boebert allegedly gave to the muslim community, but it is representative omar that is looking for a public apology and that's an apology that she has not gotten.
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and minority leader mccarthy is not inclined to give her and is in fact, defending representative boebert. >> i think we are losing you, going in and out. let me go to ebony. ebony, many of the comments from boebert and other republican members of congress such as matt gaetz and marjorie taylor-greene are childish, but we know they are happening along with a sophisticated effort by the gop to suppress voters of color all over the country. you have been a leader organizer around the voting rights in washington this summer and last year and worked in this area. how do those two strategies work together that they're using and what makes them so dangerous as
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a combination? >> well, thank you for having me, reverend sharpton. you know, nelson mandela once said great anger and violence can never build a nation. voters of color are constantly in an unending war of dignity and the basic right to participate politically. as we see census numbers incline, efforts to stop people of color to get power have been a feature in american elections. this type of language reaffirms and condones their audience to act on their pre-existing views, giving violence a direction and increasing fear in vulnerable communities. you know, the reality is that enough people still see minority votes as a threat to justify departures from what fair elections and a mature democracy looks like.
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voter suppress is a descendant of racial violence and this language just ties it together. >> all right, now, we have errin back. i'll let you finish your answer about gop violent rhetoric, errin. >> thanks, i hope you can hear me better now. >> yes. >> i was saying when the representative made those remarks to that audience, they applauded. they were okay with the remarks and they enjoyed them. i don't know what -- rhetoric and behavior that was modeled by the former president and it persists in his absence. >> now it seems to many of us that this current effort to intimidate and suppress voters of color is the most significant effort we've seen since the 1960 to push back against the historic gains of the civil
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rights movement. it should inspire a new civil rights movement to protect voting rights fully and permanently. but democrats have been slow to make this a priority and we've seen a lot of marches, a lot of efforts, you've been involved, as i said, ebony, on the front lines of this, but we've not seen democrats in the senate and the congress move with the same kind of energy. your thoughts, first, to you ebony, and then errin for the last word. >> democrats in congress have said voting rights is one of their top issues this year. yet, the year is coming to an end and we don't see a clear path forward and how to secure legislation. the urgency is not there. the democratic party can miss the moment to keep their promise and re-energize their voting blocks before the next election cycle. the next steps are clear. we need to end the filibuster and enact voting rights legislation this year. that's why civil rights organizations, which included the naacp and the national urban league and others, created a
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scorecard rating u.s. senators and their commitment to racial equity. >> all right, and we covered that scorecard here and we're going to be releasing results and clearly it is very important, again, errin, always great to have you on and ebony, congratulations and we're glad to see you on the front lines. next on "politics nation," the biden administration has a new plan to get ahead of the new covid-19 variant but will it do enough to help communities hardest-hit by the virus. find out next. all these other things too. it can all add up. kesimpta is a once-monthly at-home injection... that may help you put these rms challenges in their place. kesimpta was proven superior at reducing the rate of relapses, active lesions, and slowing disability progression vs aubagio. don't take kesimpta if you have hepatitis b,
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watch the full story at www.xfinity.com/sing2 welcome back to "politics nation." the threat of the new omicron variant has highlighted the important role testing plays in combatting the spread of covid-19 and exposed some of the weaknesses in our current system. a new white house initiative will require insurance companies to reimburse the cost of at-home tests. but is that enough? joining me now is dr. wayne j. riley, president of the suny downstate health services university. we know that president biden is consulting with his advisers on how to contain the spread of omicron, of the variant known as
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omicron, while also keeping the economy open. the white house is making vaccines more readily available, doing a massive booster campaign across the country, targeting seniors and others and building on the testing plan. can people be confident, though, that these home tests will work if they have the omicron variant? what does this policy mean for people who might not have the money to front for the cost of these tests and who might need help conducting these at-home tests? >> well, good to be with you, reverend al. i applaud the president and the administration for leaning in on the testing. we're still not doing enough testing across the board. we're only doing about 1.2 million tests a day. we really ought to be doing 5 million tests a day. and we have to make testing easier and more accessible. so, getting out these home tests are critically important. i would argue that finding a
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home test for covid should be as easy as finding a home pregnancy test. that these tests should be available in convenience stores and bow degases and other places where people always are. right you're, the cost has been one of the problems. it costs $20, $25, that's just too much for some americans in some of the communities we care deeply about, rev. you know, in europe, in some places in europe, the test only costs a dollar, roughly. and even in the united kingdom, the tests are free, the at-home tests. they are very accurate and they can play a critical role in detecting asymptomatic covid infections that circulate and get this testing stood up. >> now, doctor, the biden administration placed a travel ban on some african countries after this new variant was first discovered in south africa, but we also know it has been
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detected in many european countries and they have not been banned. meantime, many african nations still suffer from a shortage of vaccines. the white house shipped 9 million covid vaccines to parts of africa yesterday, bringing its total doses to just 100 million for a continent with more than 1.2 billion people. do we need to rethink our approach to our stance toward african countries during this pandemic? >> absolutely, rev. you will remember, as a student of history, it was 1940 when fdr articulated the phrase and the aspiration, arsenal of democracy, to get the united states of america to lean in to providing, you know, resources to other countries around the world. the united states needs to be the arsenal of vaccinations, particularly for the african continent, i would argue. you know, this is what we can do as americans and our american ingenuity. so, no, we should not be too critical of south africa.
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south africa medical care, the professionals have been very transparent, but we need to do more. i applaud what the president has done to provide more vaccines to africa and other countries around the world, but we really do need to do more. and like i said, we need to be the argue nall of vaccines for the world and particularly the african continent. >> now, doctor, it really pains me to ask you this question, but here we are. almost two years since this pandemic started and we see again this variant that partisanship is the deepest demographic divide, deeper than race or income. i mean, there's a segment of the public unwilling to get vaccinated against the coronavirus, it is also the case that most of those who have not yet received the dose of the vaccines are republican. as data from the kaiser family
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foundation has repeatedly shown. what can we do to change that? >> well, again, that's been the most frustrating thing for all of us in the medical community and you heard dr. fauci express his frustration, as well. covid does not pay attention to whether you're a democrat, independent or republican. unfortunately, the concerted misinformation campaign to try to deter americans from getting a vaccine that can save their life and protect their health, has been truly unfortunate. so, again, you know, i would suggest that we have to get much more muscular in our messaging, you know, we have to -- i'm all in favor of mandates, rev, whether it's for professional athletes or public service workers, teachers, et cetera, health care workers, mandates work. but again, we have to get much better at trying to, you know, bridge this partisan -- this silly, i would argue, partisan
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divide that is putting the health of americans at peril. >> doctor, lastly, what is your take on the sensitive issue of mandates? do you think that mandates with vaccination or with required testing are a reasonable ask for businesses around the country? >> well, rev, i am unabashedly unapologetically for vaccine mandates. whether you're a professional athlete, again, a teacher, a public sector employee, a nurse, a physician, because that's the only way we get to the other side of this, is that we've got to get more americans vaccinated. and if the steering mechanism of a mandate is one of the tools in our tool box, we should use it. you know, human behavior being human behavior, rev, we always delay things that we think may be unpleasant. unfortunately, particularly in black and brown communities, we know, there has been some delay, but again, the best thing we can do right now is, we get more data on how significant omicron
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variant is, is to get your shots, get the booster and, again, you know, pay attention to the sound advice that we're giving. and as i tell audiences all the time, rev, science matters to all americans. science particularly matters to black and brown lives. >> dr. wayne riley, thank you for joining me. after the break, my final thoughts. if you wanna look fresh, fresh. you gotta eat fresh. eat fresh. that's why subway bought time in my shampoo ad.
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as we close the show tonight i want to talk about the loss of two great women that we lost this week. congresswoman carrie meek who served in the u.s. congress from florida passed this week in florida. she served in the legislature and the house of representatives and the legislature where she broke down walls. she was one of those giants that didn't need a lot of credit, didn't need a lot of publicity. she just got the work done. she is certainly one that i could not think of anyone i had more respect and more regard for her sacrifice and certainly our prayers are to her family, and then words can't express my shock and dismay at the killing of jacqueline avant. jackie avant was not only the wife of music mogul who we
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called the black godfather clarence avant, she was an activist in her own right. there was no one that had more strength in not being showy than she would whether it was helping charities in watts or around the country, and was the backbone to what her husband did as a pioneer in the music business and a trendsetter. i remember many years ago she aloud a fund-raiser for us in her home, something that was rare. clarence told me, jackie's thes about. the only reason you're here is because of her. to think a senseless house invasion is the immediate preliminary report would take the life of this great woman is something that is still difficult for many of us to digest. may we understand these two great women did great things and should never be forgotten. we'll be right back.
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that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern for another live hour of "politics nation" starting with former president of the naacp congressman kweisi mfume. that is sunday right here on msnbc. alicia menendez picks up our news coverage right now. >> thank you so much, reverend
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sharpton. hello, everyone. i'm alicia menendez. we begin this hour with the future of reproductive rights in america and what the battle over a strict abortion law could mean for other constitutionally protected rights. this week, six to three conservative super majority supreme court heard oral arguments in a challenge to a mississippi law that would ban abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy. this case is the most direct challenge to roe v. wade in nearly three decades. upholding the mississippi law would gut the precedent established from roe in 1973 affirming access to abortion as a constitutional right. and the race in the legacy for roe could be the first step in republican-led states plans to chip away at other rights. new reporting from "usa today" read, quote, when the supreme court hands down its ruling next year in mississippi's blockbuster challenge to roe v. wade, the bull being of the decision will be focused on
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