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also on the hill, the senate coming into session right now with a question, will it be a december of deals or december of drama? or maybe both? democrats today say time is running out to pass the social spending bill by christmas. in this hour, our new reporting on how chuck schumers to get thimp things on the fast track. plus january 6th investigators putting off an interview with michael flynn, others are facing a do or don't moment. and the mm moe we have obtained from an official who he says has been lying to congress about the insurrection. we have a lot to get to. i want to start with our white house correspondent monica alba along with a sports writer and correspondent for reel sports. it's good to have you both. let me start with you. the president did not address this after the speech that we just watched live on msnbc last hour. i know he answered a couple questions, including yours, which we'll get to. but this comes after the white
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house press secretary announced this decision for a diplomatic boycott, which is different from a full boycott of the winter olympics, which is coming up in a couple months. talk to us about the reasoning. there's a few things the white house has laid out here. >> reporter: exactly, keyword diplomatic in terms of this boycott. the athletes will still be participaing in the games, but the u.s. won't be sending any government officials. in the past we have seen first ladies attend, other cabinet success tears, normally it's something that's really done with quite a lot of fanfare and that's precisely why white house press secretary said they didn't want to do this. they didn't the to contribute to that. and this is something that dozen send a strong message. we know the president had been thinking about this move for a matter of weeks. he confirmed to nbc news he was considering it. we know he had also bye-bye talking to allies and we can maybe expect other countries to
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take a similar decision and stance. but it really comes if we think about it just a couple weeks after president biden held that high stakes video call with president xi of china. i'm told this was not a topic of discussion, so it's unclear in what form the united states government gave chinese officials a heads up this was coming or if they did just learn a about it this afternoon. it is relevant given this is something where we didn't expect a full boycott. it's about sending a message. that's what the white house is doing today with this decision. >> if you're an athlete headed to these games and hearing about this boycott, a diplomatic boycott, what kind of effect does that have? >> it's really difficult to place pressure on these athletes to take a similar stance. we have seen some politicians say a full boycott is what would send the proper message here, but you have to think about what these athletes have gone through. most of these athletes do not
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have professional avenues and they train all of their life just for this one competition. and we saw after the tokyo olympics were postponed, i talked to athletes that the devastation and the frustration about what that meant to them. so i think if you're an athlete looking at this now, you understand it. i think you're probably relieved that it's not a full boycott and some are probably quietly have ing their own conversations about whether or not they want to compete. >> here is the actual moment when the white house press secretary made the announcement. let me play it for you. >> the biden administration will not send diplomatic or official representation to the beijing 2022 winter olympics and paralympic games given the ongoing genocide and crimes against humanity and other human rights abuses. >> i have to think about the way that china sees the olympics a as a way to boost their standing on the world stage. this is coming a after the
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disappearance of the tennis star peng shuai last month. obviously, a black eye for china on that front. it seems this is not the conversation china wants the world to be having as they get ready to host. >> that's right my answer to people who are calling for athletes themselves to boycott is that in this case, the messaging is enough. china really cares about how it's viewed on the international stage and sports have long been a huge part about that positioning and about its strategy in the global community. and just to have u.s. diplomatic officials not show up and potentially other countries follow suit and to have this be the topic of conversation, i think it's enough to derail china's goal in the olympics, which isn't the money and not necessarily the medals. it's positioning itself as a major playeren the world stage. >> what about the criticism from some republicans who believe this is a half measure.
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it isn't enough to send the kind of message. how does the white house see that? >> they also were evaluating all that. in fact, one of the factors here was congressional pressure because there were bipartisan lawmakers who had expressed concerns and they did want the united states to take a firm stance when it came to this. but at the same time, the white house really believes it shouldn't be the athletes here some of whom who trained for years for this special moment, who should be penalized in this particular instance. that's what the press secretary emphasized earlier today. for those of us who are just as olympics crazed and the to be cheering them on, it's a complicated situation because you have to walk that fine line of supporting the american athlete who is are going to these games, who have invested so much time and energy while being sure the united states is sending a message. something that the white house hasn't necessarily addressed is what kind of message they think this will send to the athletes who will be going.
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and that's sure to be something that will be carefully watched when the games start in february. >> monica alba, thank you both very much. on capitol hill, some news this afternoon. the senate back in session. you can see the floor open fou. and senators are being told to get are ready for long days and nights, maybe even some weekends to take action on some different priorities for democrats. we're talking about preventing a default in the credit. that's something that members support. reauthorizing the defense bill, a vote on the president's build back better act. not too long ago, from the white house, that question you heard me allude to the president asking congress to take action as he highlighted something in the bill to keep prescription drug costs down. >> we're closing to passing the build back better bill of suffering from diabetes and so many other diseases, the medicines they need and the
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dignity they deserve to afford them. we need congress to finish the job, to come together and make a difference in people's lives. >> i want to bring back if our nbc news team mike memoli at the white house. leann caldwell is at hill. one of the things i alluded to was the question about that christmas deadline. senator schumer wants to see the build back better act get done by then. and the president seemed to say let's get it done early. but that's fine by me. . >> reporter: it was an interesting response from the president. senator shooum schumer set a number of deadlines come and go. the president maybe turning on the relief valve to take the pressure off. but the white house want this is done as soon as possible. but in the president's event today, i saw something shift in the white house's position as it
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relates to how to message this bill. because the biggest question in washington is the one that monica asked. when will we see this be finished? but the question that many americans are asking is what is in piece of has hit the road before or done events at the white house, he's focused a at a high level about why it's important for the towse make the kind of investment this is our people. he's talked about it in international competition. or he's spoken generically about what certain groups. when i was in minnesota, union workers will benefit from some of the jobs in the infrastructure plan. but we saw the president and vice president doing her own event where they focus on a specific individual. they are really making this as personal as possible to talk about one specific problem that they think this legislation will help address. in this case, the cost of drug prices. so you're seeing the white house maybe hearing some of the questions about the messaging strategy, making this about a concrete example of how one person will benefit to tray to
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translate that to the american people. as far as the negotiations, the white house indicating that the conversations happening are still happening at a staff level. we haven't seen the president bringing over joe manchin or krysten sinema. so something to look for. >> mike brings up a good point there. talk to us about what senator schumer is saying today about trying to fast track basically the president's agenda, along with some of the other things congress has its on plate. >> reporter: that's right they have a busy agenda. the president saying that it's most important that it just passes, it doesn't matter when. it's a big sign to me there's some problems over here on capitol hill in the senate specifically. we do know they are going through this process, what is known as the bird bat for those political wongs to make sure that every line of this legislation fits in the senate rules and is able to be part of this legislation. that's a process that is going to take at least another week.
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so they can't move on to the bill until that happens. meanwhile, they also have these other must-pass things to do, including lifting or suspending the debt limit. they are working with leader pakistan konl on a way to do that. they also have to pass this annual defense policy bill called the national defense authorization act that needs to be done before the end of the year. leader mcconnell and leader schumer are working with their house counterparts on that. there's been some problems with that. there's been some issues that senators the to put into this legislation that are slowing down this process. and so these are just some of the things they have to get done. everything in the senate takes a really long time. so the fact that the president said that it needs to pass, not necessarily by christmas, combined with the fact that the senate has a lot to do in the next three weeks means that this
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year, this legislative year could very well extend into the next legislative year in order for them to finish up their business. >> really quickly before i let you go. in the midst of all this, congress is going to take a beat later this week to honor somebody that the community and country has recently lost, bob dole. >> reporter: that's right. he will lay in state on thursday at the capitol. this was a decision by both house and senate leadership. and this is a very high honor. this is something that not very many americans receive. people like senator john mccain is one of the most recent senators to lay in state, but it's rare for a senator to, in fact, lay in state. but bob dole, former majority leader twice, also a minority leader in the senate for many years, will receive that honor on thursday. >> thank you very much. mike memoli, appreciate you
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being with us. coming up, why the january 6th committee agreed to put off an interview with michael flynn. sdplnchts and what the army is saying after being accused of lying to congress about the response to the attack. plus breaking news from the toj. we have seen why it's now suing the state of texas again. and later an nbc news exclusive. our team getting a look at a secret lethal drone the miitary has been using for years. we'll go inside that story, coming up. we'll go inside that story, coming up. there's new rotisserie-style chicken, new peppercorn ranch, new hickory-smoked bacon, new- did you just spike the footlong? sorry, i didn't want the delay of game. save big. order through the app. my plaque psoriasis... ...the itching... save big. the burning. the stinging. my skin was no longer mine. my psoriatic arthritis, made my joints stiff, swollen... painful. emerge tremfyant®. with tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis...
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for the select committee as it's off to more people connected to the insurrection, we were told two depositions that happened have been delay d. some are expected to turn over documents today. nbc news has gotten its hands on a memo from a former d.c. national guard official accusing two top army officials of lying about their response during the
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afternoon of the attack. i want to bring in our senior capitol hill correspondent garrett haake. we're also joined by the white house reporter from politico. let's talk about the week ahead, the deadlines for the january 6 committee. >> reporter: the most important deadlines today that remain are for documents from roger stone and alex jones, the two provocateurs, are expected to deliver documents to the committee before the end of the day today. then they are rolling deadlines throughout the week on this graphic you just put up showed including from members of the oath keepers and proud boys, a foot soldiers of the insurrection. john eastman's deposition expected to plead the fifth and the former top senior campaign aid expected on friday. but these deadlines for the january 6th committee have been soft deadlines thus far. in many cases, people who have been targeted have negotiated for later dates and turn in their documents show up for their depositions whether it be for scheduling conflicts,
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illness in the case of jeffrey clark or tactical delay, which has frustrated the committee a great deal, which we saw in the case of mark meadows who had been threatened with contempt to reschedule his interview. 12k3w4r sgl as we talk about january 6th, nbc news btained a scathing memo from a former national guard official i accusing two leaders of lying to congress basically about what happened on january 6th. you and your colleagues were the first to report this. let me run through some of these highlights. he's talking about general charles flynn and walter p. calls them absolute and unmate gaited liars accusing them of willful misconception and it's worthy of the best prop beganist. he's also accusing the department of defense inspector general of inaccurate and sloppy work. as you broke the news, talk more about what specifically he's taking issue with here.
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accusing these officials of lying to congress as garrett on capitol hill knows, is a big deal. >> this is a pretty big deal. these are pretty serious accusations that have been levelled by a top former national guard colonel earl ath matthews. he served in the national guard on january 6th, so he was right there with the national guard as these big decisions were being made about how and when to deploy forwardsmen as the siege was underway. in this memo, incredibly dense, he levels some pretty serious accusations he says two of the top army generals were dishonest in their testimony that they gave to capitol hill. he narrows in on this one 2:30 p.m. phone call on that day where the national guard was gleaned to be deployed and wanted to get to the capitol and
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help and they say that they were prevented from moving faster because the army had to sign off on things. but they also said at the time that these two generals had concerns over the optics and wanted to come up with a further plan. in this report he also says this army has a separate report on what happened on january 6th that he called, quote, kin to north carolina propaganda, which is a pretty heavy charge. he say thas missed details and it was sorlt of the attempt by the army to whitewash what happened. he also takes issue with the defense department's inspector general report, something that the commanding general at the time is also taken issue with
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and had just last week asked for a retraction of that report. now when we talked to the army and we reached out for comment, they standby the testimony that's been given by these generals. the defense department stands by the inspector general's report, but it certainly raises a lot of questions and we're hearing from somebody, and we haven't heard from yet about what went down on january 6th that was a chaotic day for everyone involved. >> let me talk a little more about that response there. we should note that nbc news has reached out to the people criticizing the memo. no response to us. but a spokesperson tells us or told politico, general flynn have been open, honest and thorough in their sworn testimony with congress and investigators. we standby all testimony and facts provided to date and vigorously reject any allegations to the contrary. a spokesperson for the pentagon said their office stands by the report. so garrett, where does this go from here? sdplr this is the kind of thing the committee will be interested
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in. the timeline of january 6th, particularly as it relates to the deployment of the national guard, has been contentious going all the way back to the 6th. i remember being in the rotunda reporting on the effort to get the guard to the capitol on that day. the confusion between the mayor's office, the guard and the pentagon at that time. it has been subject to other hearings, to this i.g. report, but i think it falls well within the scope of the investigation. and as pointed out, they won't have to go far to get information. the commanding general from that time is the house sergeant at arms. he can walk down the hallway to testify at his convenience. >> that's a good point. thank you. thank you for being with us. next up, a live report from the capitol with what's at stake before president biden's call with the russian president tomorrow. and later how one woman who hated politics ended up in washington on january 6th. where she died while storming the capitol.
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of american diplomacy. tomorrow morning, president biden is set to talk with president putin of russia as the kremlin's military presence gets bigger and bigger along the border. it's creating some concerns of the potential for an all out war. president biden will video conference with president putin and will warn of a very real cost russia faces if it invades ukraine. russia added another 90,000 troops to the border there say ing they are worried about their own security. but ukrainian leaders are worried russia might strike next year. richard engel is live in ukraine and joining us live. thank you so much for staying up late to talk to us. it seems this is a critical moment. what are your expectations? >> reporter: well, it all depends on how you view the situation. the u.s. military is very concerned about what's happening on the border. they don't know if russia plans to invad, but they know that
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russia has put the caability of an invasion and according to an unclassified intelligence estimate, russia plans to send more troops to the border. there are roughly 100,000 troops between 70,000 and 100,000. and one of the reasons that there is that discrepancy is russia has been moving its troops around to keep people guessing. whether they are staying, whether they are pulling back, where exactly they are positioned. but just new satellite images out today show russian troops on the border and preparations for a possible invasion underway. or it is just a bluff. it is vladimir putin signaling to the united states, signaling to russia, signaling to nato that russia has a red line and will ep knot accept this country entering nato. that's something that russian officials have been stressing and something that putin himself has been mentioned on more than
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one occasion. and another potential area of concern, you watch the rhetoric out of moscow. there's more discussion about ukraine. much more discussion that ukraine could start an invasion of rusia and that russia could have to have no choice but to defend itself. so this is a dangerous situation. when russia has put that it much fire power on its border, plans to bring more fire power, is heating up the rhetoric at home talking about a potential launched by the ukrainian side. so tomorrow really is a test of diplomacy to see if president biden and president putin can deescalate tensions and lay out what some of their red lines would be. for russia, the red lines are clear. it does not want ukraine entering nato and doesn't want nato putting more advanced
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weapon systems or any advanced weapon systems into this country. >> what's the mood like on the ground where you are in kiev? >> reporter: there's concern. i wouldn't say there's panic, but you had the president sa lent skit dressed in fatigues. there were military day celebrations. when you have the president of the country dressed in fatigues visiting military installations and talking about defending the nation, you get a sense of what the mood is like and how deeply concerned they are. this is also the second time in the last several months that russia has built up troops. i was here in the spring and there was a smaller russian military buildup. i was in some of the border installations and troops were very concerned then. now they are even more concerned and they look back in retrospect and wonder if what happened in the spring was some sort of dry run for what potentially could
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be happening now or over the next several months. >> richard engel live for us, thank you for that excellent reporting we'll look for more tonight on "nbc nightly news". now to breaking news from the justice department. the attorney general announcing the doj is suing texas over its redistricting plans. saying that violates the voting rights act this sets up a legal showdown over maps that deny or abridge the rights of latino and black voters. justice correspondent pete williams was there and made his way back to our washington bureau. so talk through the implications, particularly as it relates to the midterm elections and any timeline that you foresee that would have this resolved by then? >> i don't know whether it will be resolved by then. no matter who wins on ts district court, there will be lots of appeals here. but what the justice department says is look at the numbers. texas gained 4 million people. 95% of them were minority
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population. and yet, in the two new house districts that texas got in congress, both of them were designed to be districts in which whites had the majority. not the people who were actually gaining the population. not only that, the justice department says the new plan takes away a latino majority district in west texas, carves out a number of latinos from dallas-fort worth area and makes a lot of other changes that dilute the attempt for latinos to elect the people of their choice. this is not about inability to vote. it's about inability to elect the people that you want. that's called vote delusion. i asked the attorney general, though, about whether it's harder to make these cases. the supreme court eight years ago took away the requirement for states to get permission to do this in advance. >> without section five, what challenge do you face in showing that these changes are intened to affect minority turnout
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rather than just to achieve partisan advantage? >> without section five, there are two problems. one, it means we don't get a chance to look at these things before they go into effect. which is a very significant aspect of our tools. instead, it requires we challenge every case individually. second is, it flips the burden of proof. >> so this is now joined to a lawsuit already existing in texas filed by a number of civil rights groups that were challenging the congressional district. and the districts for the state house as well. so this adds the justice department's fire power to those lawsuits. >> pete williams in d.c., thank you. next up, we're taking you inside the chicago courtroom where jesse smol let just took the stand. that's after the break. e stand. that's after the break
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a break in chicago for actor just see smollett, who has been
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on the stand in his own criminal trial. he's facing six charges related to this attack. he's accused of orchestrating attack against himself to make it look like a racist attack. he filed a false police report afterwards. had pleaded not guilty to all these charges. i know that court is on break. the cross-examination has not started yet. can you talk through any signals from inside the courtroom about how the jury seems to be reacting, what he's saying in his own defense here. >> it was a big moment when he took the stand. there's a lot of anticipation about whether he would or would not. and a lot of people looking at this case think he had to respond to the charges and the allegations that were made against him by the prosecution's witnesses. the prosecution put up two
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witnesses who are two brothers who were associates of smollett, extras who say that smollett paid them some $3,500 to rehearse, to stage this entire attack. that it was an entire hoax from the start. and now smollett is taking the stand to try to respond to that allegation. we have not heard his response to this yet, but this is essentially the case. smollett is maintaining that he was attacked one night that he was two masked men came up and yelled racial slurs at him. and smollett has maintained that that is what happened. now the prosecution has been saying that this is all a lie. the police have said this is all a lie. that smollett made up this attack because he was upset about the amount pay he was getting and he was trying to
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generate sympathetic publicity. we have not heard smollett explain his version of this. his response to these allegations, but he is on the stand. he will be there all afternoon. this is the key moment in the case. he's the fifth witness to testify. he will probably be the final witness and this could go to the jury as soon as later today or tomorrow. whenever he finishes his direct tail light and whenever he faces what we expect to be a very aggressive and brutal cross-examination by prosecutors. >> ron al lean live for us monitoring those developments. thank you. now to michigan with some new details about what led up to the school shooting as the handling in oakland county and prosecutors tribed a as warning signs. the superintendent of that district encompasses oxford high school. it says a third party investigator is being hired and michigan's attorney general is also now offering to conduct ab independent review.
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there are also new questions about the man hunt for the parents of the suspected shooters. you see them here and whether a person of interest in connection with could face legal consequence. let me start there. there's this person of interest, this guy who apparently according to some of the officials here has not been charged with a crime. we know that. but who seemed to have helped the parents hide or at least let his studio be used as a place for the crumbleys to camp out before they were supposed to be arraigned. walk us through that. >> reporter: yeah so it's an artist. his name is andre. and that was his art studio of some sort in detroit where saturday at 1:30 a.m. local and federal law enforcement officials found the parents there and took them into custody. we understand that right now, he and his attorney are talking
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with police. not at this particular lox, initially we were told they are going to colt here. they went to another one and currently he is speaking with investigators. police have said they are going to look at whether or not it is appropriate to charge that individual with something related to harboring a fugitive, but they haven't made a determination just yet. the attorney representing the artist, he said his client did not know that the crumbleys were facing these charges. four counts each of involuntary manslaughter and they had had asked him to help with a place to stay because they were facing death threats. since then, according to his attorney, he's been cooperating with police. but according to police, we know that the couple took out some $4,000 from an atm and did not tush themselves in when police were told they were going to do so. the judge sided with them. they are at their arraign the this weekend.
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they were given half a million dollar bond each because the judge said they were a flight risk. as for the school and possible charges for school officials, the county's top prosecutor has said the investigation is ongoing and they have not ruled out any charges. in an interview a little earlier today, the prosecutor said that the school had the legal authority to search the alleged shooter's backpack and locker, but did not do either of those things. now police have said they do not know where the gun was in terms of was it on the alleged shooter's person or in a backpack or his locker. the first time you can see the weapon in the video evidence they have is when he comes out of the bathroom and starts shooting. but remember two key things happened. one, you had in the 24 hours before the shooting started, a teacher report to school officials this she saw this individual googling ammunition. and then you had the morning of
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the massacre where there was another teacher who found a disturbing drawing, it was a violent drawing with guns and blood and talking about how they cannot make this thoughtings stop and asking for help in the alleged shooter's desk. that went to school officials. the superintendent of the school has defended the school's actions saying, one, that the individual claimed it was a video game design. two, that when asked in the meeting of the parents and they refused to take the student home. and they did not know the student had any sort of gun. the parents didn't mention anything to that effect in the meeting. and because the parents refuse to take the student home, they take him and send him back to the classroom. but obviously, a lot of parents, prosecutors, the police have questions about whether or not there were opportunities there to do more to prevent what we saw happen later that day. >> live for us in a windy
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one month from today marks a year since the january 6th insurrection. and in that year, we have covered every aspect for that day. and now a fist look at msnbc's newest findings from a year-long investigation. it's about a woman named rose san. she was one of the five people who died at the riot. in the span of a year, he went from a person who didn't care about politics to somebody who was a devout follower of the qanon conspiracy theory and a supporter of then president trump. joining us now is ayman mo dean. you happen to be from the town as her. tell us how this came about. >> i actually went to the same high school as her. funny enough, a few days after
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the insurrection when we were consumed with what was happening, i got a message from her brother-in-law who says his sister-in-law had died in the capitol. at the family believed she had been radicalized in under six months. that the family believed she had been rad calculatized in six months. they gave us her journals and group chats and it opened our eyes into the world that transformed the past six months of her life. for most of her life, roseanne boyle hated politics. she was shy and rarely left her home. >> she was super involved in her family. we come from a large catholic family. we are always in each other's business, hanging out. >> reporter: in the summer of 2020 her family started something seemed off? >> she started getting closed off and distant. on christmas she was here but she was just on her phone the whole time. she wasn't participating in the
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opening of presents. >> reporter: roseanne began to withdraw from family commitments and instead started going down a qanon rabbit hole of child trafficking conspiracy theories. she was like, have you heard about this? i said no. she researched it. i left at 5:00 in the morning and she texted me at 7:00 in the morning. she had been up all night watching youtube. >> reporter: her family wasn't sure how to handle her new found obsession. she had a history of substance abuse and they were afraid confronter her might push her away. her social media posts began to take on a political tone. do you believe she was radicalized? >> yes, yeah. >> her family tried to talk her out of attending the january 6th rally held in washington but she refused. she went to the rally with a friend, justin winchel who had been one of the last people to see her alive. her family watched in horror as the events of that day unfolded.
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>> we just watched the news. and the second that they said the second person died, i -- or somebody -- there was more than one death, i knew automatically it was her. i just had like this gut feeling that that was her. >> reporter: late that night, roseanne's family got the call they had been dreading. roseanne had died at the capitol in the middle of a crowd trying to force its way past the police line. body cam and other footage from that day paints a brutal picture. her friend justin who accompanied her to the march can be seen in this footage dragging people out of the way in an apparent attempt to save his friend's life. >> save her. she's going to die. >> roseanne died but according to the medical examiner's office it was because of a prescription drug overdose in do you believe that the explanation that was given by the medical examiner as
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to why roseanne died is not -- i mean, the true version -- >> preparation adderall. >> i think that they did a rush half-hearted investigation because she was a trump supporter who died doing what she did. >> reporter: in the months since her dead the family has sought to understand how roseanne was radicalized and what exactly happened to her in those final minutes some of which they believe was captured on body cam video not yet released. they also want to speak to justin winchel who was with her at the end but he stepped returning the family's calls and texts. >> ultimately, we just want to find out what happened to her. >> the family is clear here. they are not trying to wash anything that she z. they are very fully aware their daughter went to the capitol as a trump supporter. you heard them there use the language they believe she was radicalized.
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but they also have questions about what happened in the final minutes of her life and whether or not they have been able the see all the body cam footage that they believe is out there. that is the second part of what they are trying to do. not only how roseanne was radicalized and what happened in the final minutes. they are trying to get ahold of justin winchel and the body cam footage. we explain all of that in the podcast series. >> it is starting to drop now, american radical with episode one available wherever you get your podcasts. thank you for previewing it with us. now in capitol hill the senate is back in session with an exclusive look at new drone technology here on msnbc making airbased attacks more precise and possibly safer for bystanders. nbc news got a first view of the switch blade 600. ken, tell us a little bit about
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this new weapon, what it means more broadly. >> hallie, this is a game changer in ways that are both good and bad for the american military and the american people. first the good news. we were able to for the first time sake video of this tiny, really small drone. it is five and a half points. infantry can carry this into battle in backpack and fire it over the horizon at a threat without risker their own lives. they put it through the window of a truck. it is extremely precise so they could kill the driver but to the the passenger of that truck for example. there is even a wave off capability. up to two seconds before the strike if they see civil cans coming into frame they can wave off the strike. that's the good news of fielding this weapon. the bad news, our adversaries have it, too. the iranian backed militias in iraq that have been attacking
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u.s. bases, this is the type of kamikaze drone they have been using. no americans have been killed but it is only a matter of time. they are cheap, they are ubiquitous, the chinese make them. azerbaijan wiped out their enemy in a matter of weeks with these weapons. they have the capabilities to change the outcome of a war. they talked about the precisions. >> it is ability to be incredibly precise by aiming to reduce the collateral damage significantly. this is the next generation of intelligent missile systems that has the loitering capability, a waveoff capability, and also precision presix effects on the target. >> it is precise burks hallie, no weapon is perfect. >> thank you, ken.
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