right now on msnbc reports, contempts for the chief programs. the january 6th committee moving to hold former white house chief of staff mark meadows in criminal contempt of he went from cooperating to not

cooperating. back to not cooperating. today blowing off a planned deposition, triggering the wrath of some of his one-time house colleagues, including adam schiff, a member of that january 6th committee. he will be here live for a one-on one live in just a minute. the head of instagram playing defense. you are looking at it, on the left side of the screen, facing questions. what one senator is saying it's too little too late. outside d.c., the president expected to speak in just about 30 minutes. you see that shot right there on the new infrastructure law as our team reports on new cracks in the democratic party, including a break with the president from a couple democrats over his covid vaccine mandate. i'm halle jackson in washington. we have lots to get to here. we are joined by carol leonnig, national reporter for "the washington post" and msnbc contributor and a star of the show. one of the things important to talk about as we look ahead to the contempt charges against mark meadows is these new details we didn't know until now

how much he is cooperating what he has given the committee so far as it relates to documents and text messages even as he blows off this deposition. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, in a few short weeks, meadows says he was cooperating with the committee. he handed over documents a. member zoe lofgren indicated he did so yesterday and today we got the letter for the chair saying to meadow's attorney who details some of those communications he did hand of with the committee. those include a series of text messages on january 6th with a member of congress. the letter says about appointing alternate electors in certain states as a part of the plan as a member ac nonld would be highly controversial in which mr. meadows apparently said, quote, i love it. he also sent tech moonls to the head of the organizer on the

rally of the ellipse. so these are really perhaps damming information that meadows has provided to the committee. now meadows says she not no longer going to cooperate. he did not show up for his scheduled deposition today and that is what prompted benny thompson to send that letter to meadow's attorney saying they will move forward with this criminal contempt referral charges they will send to the department of justice. so they could move as early as this week. we're waiting to hear on a specific time line for that but there could be ram identifications for meadows. it's important given his proximity to the former presidents not only personal but the fact the top adviser shows in fact how important meadows is to this committee and so the

committee has the choice to make on the they were going to move forward with these criminal contempt charges. that could mean they may not get any more information from mark meadows, himself, halle. >> mark meadows is one of the reason he is claiming executive privilege. he was in the white house, the former president is trying to talk about this with his personal e-mail. the chairman is saying, hey, have you transferred that to the national archives? explain why this is significant here? >> you know, i think of this as like a three-ring circus we you'll of us on this panel have to be sort of swiveling our head from side-to-side for monitoring. on the one hand, you are so smart to point out many of these records including text messages, with i the chief of staff at the time with rally organizers, what

will be the nature of this rally on the ellipse. there is a fate going on in january, early january about whether or not certain people pushing for a march are too tectonic, too much dynamite. they should be blocked. there are people talking to meadows about that there are text messages about whether or not the president really needs to call off the dogs on january 6th after shots were fired and people are in danger and the capitol has been breached and members are running their their lives through tunnels they aren't familiar w. these text messages are a public record of the presidential adviser, the senior most one who should have been in compliance with the law providing those records to the executive office for storage. that's the public records law. that's the presidential records act. the other circus that we have to watch is that mark meadows is

insisting he sort of wants to engage with the committee or has been saying that. of course, he was only engaging in what appears to be now a stall tactic looking like he was cooperating, but his lawyer making clear, he wasn't going to share anything that touched on the president's conversations or rather meadow's conversations with the president. then he backed off the deposition. the third sirius, of course, is meadows writing a book in which he's revealing public forgive me very unpublic medical private records of the president discussing conversations he had with the president all of which you think would be a little more concerning to reveal. but they're valuable in the book as news nuggets. >> it's a great analogy, laying it out is illustrative of where we are at the moment. you heard lee anne looking ahead at this potential contempt for mark meadows.

let me remind folks steve bannon is facing a trial. have you jeffrey clark, the former assistant attorney general facing a full contempt vote in the house. now you can act mark meadows as well. the chairman says beyond these three, there are legal battles. they interviewed 275 witnesses, talk about the overall narrative, carol, as you see it as this select committee is looking to build. >> obviously, it started at the bottom like any good prosecutorial investigation. congress often mimics several prosecutors and their works and to go from the outer ring and try to have many principles to talk that he can get to talk and those that don't get every associate and deputy, get every record and contemporary account. try to build the narrative without them, ultimately, who is at the center, halle?

former president donald trump. because what the committee is trying to understand is, how much did he know about the violence that we see planned? it's not violence. it's chaos that was being planned. mark meadows was being warned as we know from our own reporting know from our reporting, we know that in those days beforehand, there were people warning meadows, things are going to get ugly. there were members of congress interested in a plan to take it to the streets, to have the people fight back. now they want to know, what did president trump know about that. the other way former president trump is at the center of this, of course, is what did he do when he realized things had broken out into hell? what did he do? the text messages you referenced earlier that now are in the hands of the committee are central to that. because it looks like as we've reported in part that the

president sat on his hands for a good long while, while his chief of staff and others were begging him to act thank you so much to the both of you. i appreciate your reporting here on this busy afternoon. i am joined by congressman adam schiff, a member of the house select committee. thank you for being back on the show. good afternoon. >> it's good to be with you. >> so let me layout a few facts of the matter. when do you expect to hold a house vote to hold mark meld doughs in contempt of change? >> we were in discussion about that right now. it will take time to put the committee report recommendation together and of course we're at the end of the session, so we're trying to make sure we can get this done expeditiously before we recess for the rest of the year. >> so you are looking at christmas, though, right? >> yes, it is our hope and expectation we will move asap. >> some of the details we talked about. i don't know how much you heard of the discussion of our

reporter and analysis there. chairman released information that mark meadows already shared with the committee, like this text message exchange with a member about alternate electors. he called it highly controversy meadows responded, i love it. you can tell us? >> i can go through that, the points are other things, there is such an importance is ped doughs acknowledges by providing these to the committee, there is no privilege that covers them and he refused to show up today to be deposed. other questions, he writes about conversations with the president about january 6th and other things in his book. apparently he didn't think it was covered by privilege when he wrote about them in he his book. he has taken the position he will not bother to show town answer questions about these events to congress. so he has made a powerful case

for contempt against himself and we intend to move expeditiously. >> can you share anything he's learned about his january 2021 stop the steal rally organizer? >> unfortunately, i can't go beyond what's the terms in this letter. but we did receive a volume of documents so when mr. meadows was cooperating. i don't know whether it was the president's blowback about his book or what not that caused him to suddenly change course and end his cooperation, but he has a right to say, because one president doesn't like it, i'm not showing up. but that's what he did. so we will have to move forward with the recourse we have. >> based on, i have to ask, i hear you can't get into specifics on this stuff. let me ask this way. based on what you seen so far, the volume of documents, besides the upcoming contempt vote. in your opinion, the members of congress and a former

prosecutors do you believe mark meadows faces any kind of legal jeopardy here? >> i don't want to comment on the that that's another issue others are raising. they're making assertion of the fifth amendment and if that is used generally, that's one thing. if witnesses feel their testimony could lead to exposure of criminal wrong-doing on their part, stay there a right to assert the fifth. on the other hand they can't use the fifth as pre text to cover up for the former president. so we're trying to separate valid claims, the fifth amendment from those that are on their faces a pre text and i don't want to give mr. meadows or anyone else more cause than anything that may be due in terms of the fifth amendment. >> do you believe there is coordination, perhaps, among some of the witnesses? >> i think there is certainly coordination among some of the witness, certainly witnesses are watching what other witnesses do, but we witnessed much of the same thing, frankly, during the

trump presidency, which is an effort to stonewall suspense and an effort to delay through the courts. i think we are seeing some of that now. but we're moving very quickly and for the most part, the courts are moving quickly. i certainly wish the proceedings against mr. boone none were moving more expeditiously. the litigation over the documents are moving quickly. >> i hear in that answer frustration that court date has not been set until judgment correct me if i'm wrong on that? >> look, yes, i would like to see both of these cases the criminal contempt vofk bannon and donald trump to provide us from getting documents. i'd like to see those resolved as soon as possible so we can move forward and it may be that steve bannon, if he is convicted still refuses to try to ameliorate his sentence by

cooperating. nonetheless, the courts ought to be cognizant of the fact these witnesses are deliberately trying to delay matters and prevent the public from knowing and given the nature that's faced the countries. >> you make the important point, if these criminal contempt proceedings begin, he doesn't still have to talk to you. is it accurate, congressman, the committee has issued subpoenas seeking the phone records of more than 100 people. i know that reporting is out there. is it accurate? >> you know, i can't comment on the that i don't think the committee exposed how many suspense or documents we have pursued so far. >> take away the number. are you looking for phone records? >> no. >> phone records will be relevant in our investigation as any complex investigation so yes the phone records will help tie communications between individuals. they put out very clear dates and time stamp on them.

they can be useful for corroborating new witnesses to important evidence. so, yes, i fully expect in this investigation as in others, it will continue to be very poverty. with you final point if i can on mr. bannon, this is an issue that's come up in that case. in most criminal cases as a prosecutor, if someone is convicted and when they're going to be sentenced, the judge will consider whether they're showing any remorse for their action, whether they've decided to cooperate in anyway with the government. it may very well be as you say or suggest mr. bannon would go to jail rather than sentence and cooperate. we would hope with bannon and others that once they are indicted and they are convicted, they will decide to cooperate. >> i have a couple more questions. i want to get to the bill are

you sponsoring. alex jones the oath keeper is the proud boys. there were deadlines for documents from them, for any of them. have you received those documents? >> i can't comment on the specifics, i'm afraid, until we disclose people's non-compliance and the decision to move forward with contempt. when people do cooperate, you are often much here. because we generally only go public when we run into obstruction. to to this point i chance answer that question great. >> i'll let folks read the tea leaves on that. >> the chairman said immunity could be on the table for mark meadows. can you explain that? what will that look like? >> we haven't decided on any particular witness to make an offer of immunity. the first step would be to go to the justice department and make sure if we were to do so even though we would be immune newsing their testimony that it

couldn't be used against them, they can be used to prosecute them. prosecutors don't rely on that testimony, it can complicate matters for a prosecution. we want to make sure nothing we do would interview with what the department of justice would be pursuing. if we decided to give a witness testimonial immunity, then they couldn't come in and take this any longer. they would be compelled to answer. if they still refuse, they can be prosecuted for contempt. if they have a criminal belief that testimony would incriminate them, then they have the trite to assert the fifth. >> and again it sounds like that is on the table for former chief of staff mark meadows. i want to ask about this bill are you sponsoring. we talked about this protecting our democracy act, which would basically strengthen checks in the presidency. is that vote still on and do you think you'd have ten senate republicans that would go along

with this? >> one of the key provisions is our own forms is a measure to expedite congressional subpoenas. it protects the justice department and whistle blowers and inspector gems and tries to attack the abuse of the pardon power and as a host of other reforms. what republicans will do we will find out tomorrow and that will give us a window into the senate, whether congress should fulfill its duties on the executive or they're in such fear of the former president, they wouldn't support reforms in the past, because they're worried they might not like it. >> congressman, one of the issues that i know you are likely aware of is congresswoman ayanna pressley, to strip lauren bo berg in the headlines for things that are controversial and offensive.

strip her over the islamophobic comments. is that something you support? >> i think first and foremost it's the responsibility of each party to police their own. you see kevin mccarthy doing nothing when they engage in bigotry that can lead to violence against our colleagues or others, glorified violence. sadly, this is what has become of the base of kevin mccarthy's support. but i think the professional question is why aren't they doing anything about the members? i think the answer is they're really depending on this qanon base as a key element of their constituency. they're not willing to confrontiment. so we have to deal with quickal questions and there simply isn't any easy answer or end to that

and that's what we are wrestling with. >> i appreciate your time this afternoon. i know it's been a busy week for you. thanks for being on the show. coming up, president biden expected to speak in missouri a couple minutes from now. you see the leg turn, the microphone right there. we think it will happen in ten minutes or so we'll see. the focus, the new infrastructure law as one of the senate holdouts on the social spending plan lays out more concerns about that and the time table. happening now, instagram ceo talking to senators. how she responding of the questions and what he wants congress to do. and the mother of daunte wright just leaving the stand in minnesota, we are live at that courthouse coming up. zblmplgs

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right now instagram head is on the hill, his first time ever trying to defend how his app

hands out the safety of teens. it's too little, too late. it comes after leaked documents in october. you remember those so-called facebookplay papers marked instagram to kids, young kids instagram hit because here's what they had to say. >> i recognize many have deep reservations about our company. i want to assure you, we have the same goal. i want teens to be safe online. >> jake, listen, to be quite candid here, nobody doesn't want teams to be safe. there is no question that that's everybody's goal? there is no question that's the end game here. the question is, how will you get there? there doesn't seem to be a consensus between members of congress and these social media apps? >> at this point the difference

is not between whether one or another person wants their kids to be safe online the real fundamental question on the part of many of these senators is should these kids be online at all? that is the fundamental dia metrically things here. amy klobuchar said in fact we as a parent and you as parents may have dia metrically opposite goes. here's a little sampling of what we have heard so far from this committee. and it does not look good policing depends on trust, facebook knew. it did the research. it had the studies. but it continued to profit from the disruptive content. >> this is a case of too little too late. but we aren't sure about is how the half measures you have introduced are going to get us to the point where we need to be

to truly protect teens and young adults online. >> reporter: now, just yesterday instagram put limits on contact between adults and teenagers, partal controls that weren't there before and a take a break feature. but it doesn't seem any of that is going to appease the senators. we look like we are getting into a date of the old school kind of questions, you asked, mr. mosseri how does your program work? instead, we will get into the guts of what these companies are doing and what exactly the effect may be on our children. in fact, on their inner state. the kind of typically squish yip highly scientific conversations you would not have seen in this kind of committee hearing. that seems to be what we have to look at today. >> great to see you. thank you for staying on top of. that bring us updates if it's worth it. right now the second witness

in minneapolis is on the stand. potter has pleaded not guilty. she has been saying she meant to use her taser, not her gun. prosecutors are arguing this is a veteran cop explicitly trained in the difference. i want to bring in ron allen live from minneapolis. i know we've seen testimony already from daunte wright's mom, right? >> reporter: yeah, it was a very emotional moment in the courtroom. there were some police body camera video that had not really been made public before that shows daunte wright's mom at the scene, she was as you might imagine irate, livid and distraught because she doesn't understand, know much about what had happened. she had called his mother after the traffic stop to try to understand what the situation was with the car insurance and to try and talk, help her, have his mother help him talk through

the situation with the police officer. so, if that's a part of why she was there as well as just trying to provide the jury some, a picture of her 20-year-old son, a father of a young boys, dante, jr., who she is still grieving and is just again distraught. here is some of what she had to say during testimony. take a listen. >> he sound really nervous. i reassured him it would be okay. i heard them say tell somebody to hang up the phone and a female answered the phone and she was screaming. and i was like, what's wrong? and she said that they shot him. and she faced the phone towards the driver's seat and then my

son was laying there. >> reporter: she was referring to a facetime call that she had with a young woman who was in the car with daunte wright when he was shot and killed. that's what she was referring to when she said the phone was pointed in that direction and she saw her son's body. on the witness stand right now is officer anthony lucky who was an officer in training with kim potter that day when all this happened back in april of this year. she was training this officer. they pulled right over because he had an air fresh inner hanging from his mirror, which is illegal in this state. the encounter escalated when they discovered he had an outstanding arrest warrant dealing with a weapons charge that was against him. they also discovered the officer say that he had a restraining order against him for an incident involving some kind of domestic violence. so they're trying to paint a different picture than the picture his mother painted. the defense is saying that potter tapped officer were

trying to arrest wright. he tried to flee. it was a dangerous situation and during the stress and chaos of that moment, she mistook her taser for her weapon for her taser and fired accidental llitch. they calm it a mistake, not a crime. they say it was manslaughter, she was a trained officer, she was reckless the word they've used a number of times and she should be convicted of manslaughter. >> ron allen, live in minneapolis, thank you very much for that. als, we are expecting to hear from president biden any minute. maybe in the next minute. he is back on the road to sell his bipartisan infrastructure law in kansas city. he has been doing this tour. now we're getting ready for his speech. he will talk about his big priority, a key piece of the agenda, that $1.75 trillion climate and spending bill. senator majority chuck schumer

says he wants it done by christmas. watch. >> we need to get build back better done. we have talked and talked and talked and talked. it's not as if we need to talk some more to figure out what this bill is about and what it does. we don't need more delay. >> nbc's josh letterman is on the road traveling with the president in kansas city. hey, josh, good to see you. >> reporter: hey, to bore rhea phrase from the musical oklahoma, president biden is coming here to say that everything is up to date in kansas estimate or at least it will be once this funding starts flowing from the bipartisan infrastructure law that president biden wants so much to be able to highlight here. about $9 billion, the state of missouri is expecting to get. we have talked in the past how the biden administration has struggled to connect the dots for americans how how they're actually going to benefit in their lives from all of this infrastructure spending, if the president's poll numbers have gone down. he has done roads, bridges,

ports, today it's about public transit and the biden administration wants to drive home this notion that low income communities, disadvantaged communities, as well as communities of color are particularly going to benefit from public transportation investments because of the way that those communities are disproportionately reliant on buses and trains to get to and from work and to go about their daily lives. there is also a climate change to put into this. president biden a few minutes ago was touring a bus repair shop here at the transit depot, he was saying, look -- we can talk about it. >> there he is. >> now they are rushing toward electric vehicles and oh, there he is. is that president wide season. >> no, i'm sorry you glichd, there was a huge glitch. the infrastructure want down. the whole screen was crazy. i appreciate you being with us. sorry to have to interrupt you. we thought we lost you for a brief and tragic moment. by the way, do you want to finish your thought real quick

before i let you go? >> reporter: yeah, just to say a big part of this as you pointed south trying to keep the momentum going on the build back better agenda. you see the signs in the room saying building be better america. president biden doesn't want to let the pressure up with chuck schumer saying they are hoping to be on track for that christmas deadline. help wants to make sure people are not losing focus, even if they're dealing with the debt ceiling, the defense authorization, everything else. president biden trying to use this event to calm attention to the needs for that second round of spending as well. >> josh letterman, thank you so much. i present it live in kansas city as the program is beginning. we will keep an eye on that, waiting to see the president, of course, step up to the mivenlth we'll have more on the next half of the break. we are heading to capitol hill, the latest republican who may end up removed from her committee. what folks are saying for the move to punish lauren boberg. the candidate governor's

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[ding] ugh... . on capitol hill we are following movement on booting congresswoman lauren boberg, congress woman ayanna has introduced this resolution to punish boberg after video surfaced making comments. whether or not that resolution gets to the floor for this vote is still up in the air. it all depends on speaker pelosi. hear what she is saying about it. >> when i'm ready to announce that i'll let you know. how we deal with addressing the fear that they have instilled in the islamophobia and the rest is something that hopefully we can do in a bipartisan way. >> joining me now is olivia beavers, congressional reporter,

good to see you. talk to us the calculus for speaker pelosi on this. >> reporter: yeah, there is a lot of conversation of what democrats are going to do. we don't have a clear answer yet as you show fareed democratic leadership. speaker pelosi says she wants republicans to take action. i talk to republicans in and out almost every day and mccarthy and top republican leaders do not look like they will take it into their own hands. they say she apologized and that's good for them. have you senior democrats saying they will act. the question is, how are they going to act? so they can do different things not related to this resolution. to have her censored, mof to basically have a resolution condemning aslamophobia and refer it back to the house ethics committee. we are quickly approaching the holidays. >> you talked to your sources, is there anything the congress men can do to convince democrats

to drop this? >> it doesn't help that sometimes boberg and her colleagues keep pushing the same comments of the jihad squad and the things that got her in trouble with the alom onobody mix. we're pushing a time where it seems like the last time democrats went to remove the republican member from the committee as you remember paul go car puts out that video showing violence against congresswoman ocaseio car tez and president biden and we're not seeing that same speed and effort here. >> what's interesting, too, is this is all coinciding with the congresswoman posting a picture of her family holding guns, you know, criticism with this, they're young people holding guns, just less than a week, a week after we saw what happened after the horrific school shooting in michigan. that is a part of the reaction here, too, i think.

>> also republicans say where that might be very tone deaf, especially in light of a deadly school shooting, that might be aamong her base a really good fundraising method, which is why you see them echoing thomas massie. it's interesting they're pushing into or controversy at a time you'd shy away from it to spotlight it. >> at a time when there is plenty. >> thank you so much. i appreciate you being with us this afternoon. thanks. today, president biden is facing new pushback on his vaccine mandates on a couple different fronts. the courts in the capitol, the court of public opinion a picked bag. the senate votes today on a bill that would attempt to try to squash his mandate for private businesses a. couple moderate democrats, joemanchin, john tester plan to side with the gop. that means it would get through the senate. it's very unlikely to get to the house. in court, another front, too, a

central federal judge stopped the vaccine mantate date, saying they overstepped. there is a wall street jourpal poll out showing americans are 50% supportive, 47% i should say opposed. the question of whether vaccines should be required of companies with more than 100 employees. i want to start with the idea of the pushback at the capitol. right. folks who regularly watch this show. we love you, viewers that do. i saw senator braun on here on the show yesterday, who was the lead sponsor on the gop side. she confident it will get to the senate. it looks like it will, but it goes nowhere. even if it's certainly not coming up for a vote, not going to get through the house. president biden has said, the white house said he would veto it. that said, what are you hearing on constern icing that might be happening from democrats who perhaps don't like the vaccine

mandates and don't want to be on the record on a vote on this? >> firstly, halle, are you right. this is likely to be a symbolic victory for republicans, a resolution to nullify president biden's vaccine mandate is on path with the senate to be passed. that's all it needs, it goes to the house. if it makes it to president biden's desk. he will veto it. the essence of the pushback is from democrats like senator joe manchin of west virginia, john testish of montana, whose states rank in the bottom third in vaccination rates and they heard from small businesses, employers who worry it will simply lead to workers walking off the job and do more harm than good. this gets to the push and pull here. president biden's number one priority campaign promise was to crush covid-19 and he says vaccine mandates work and are the by a to do this. democratic governors as well, lori kelly in kansas, some reports suggest gretchen whitmer

in michigan as well are scent am of these vaccine mandates. keep in mind, those state their fully vaccinated rate is 55%. that gives you a sense how many workers could potentially be affected if compliance with the vaccine mandate is not fully there. the bottom line, though, the democratic party is with president biden on this, but among republicans, the growing attitude, consensus, is on capitol hill, at least, as pro vaccines but anti-mandates. that's how they're selling this particular resolution. >> how do you read the sentiment from somebody supportive of what the president has done on the state level. that's michigan governor gretchen whitmer who is saying she is not posing at the state level and michigan would lose employees. again she is sa democrat. she's been somebody who has been supportive largely in the biden administration policy? >> absolutely. this is not exactly a joe manchin-type figure.

there was speculation being considered for a vice president. she has been a loyal ally all the way through. it gets to the feedback these democratic political leaders are getting. michigan as i mentioned has a vaccination rate of 55-to-56% fully vaccinated according to mayo clinic and a lot of employers there as in many other states believe that the vaccine mandates can do more harm than good. some people might comply. a lot of people won't. it can simply lead people to walk off the job and quit. president biden's view from the begin has been the only way to get the economy back to full strength is to crush the virus, which is why he is willing to take these measures to force people to do i want the vaccine mandates, much like the country, itself, and the political ideological divide have, you know, very evenly split in terms of whether to support these mandates or whether to oppose them. of course, you see more opposition in purple and red states than do you in blue states, where the mandates are popular, vaccine nation rates are higher. they're having a problem these

days as the delta variant has been problematic for the president's goal of getting the masks, vaccination rates up and to ultimately beat this virus, halle. >> thank you. as we talk about the covid, the phonetic, i should say and covid, there are some really big new data out from pfizer today. you probably heard about it. it shows three doses, your first, initial two doses a and the booster. those three shots providing high level of protection against the comb chron variant. i want to bring in associate dean of public health. thank you very much for being with us. good afternoon. >> nice to join you. >> i want to share a little what dr. fauci said to my colleague andrea mitchell a couple hours ago. watch. >> the pfizer data now gives us very important information that although there is diminution of the effect of a two-dose vaccine, when you get a booster,

you dramatically increase the level of projected protection by about 25fold. which means that people who get boosted after their two dose mnra should really do quite well. >> do you share that same take away from the data? >> so this is a lab study. not a real life vaccine effectiveness study. it certainly shows anti-bodies increase. it doesn't tils anything about the rest of the immune system. my suspicion based on what we know so far, that two-dose series of pfizer or moderna is going to be sufficient to protect us against the most severe form of omicron. a booster may increase your protection from symptomatic disease. it's necessary. that said, i am telling everyone at this point we have six months out from your primary vaccine period or two months if you got johnson&johnson to go out and get the booster in case while we

await data on omicron. >> you say it's tough to say it's necessary that the booster is necessary. i wonder, you know, given this data, there is a question whether the cdc should change the definition of fully vaccinated to your initial shots mr. us the booster? >> once again, too early to say whether we need to change the definition yet. i do suspect that we will move in that direction. that's what we do for measles, polio, and so many other common vaccines. you get your first series and then you get a lost aer at some defined interval. whether it's a first shot, the fourth shot. there is a lot to learn about covid in general much less about this brand-new variant. >> doctor, thank you very much for being with us. good to see you. appreciate your time. brand-new news come out with former senator david purdue. the trump's next candidate in the race for governor. he is now saying he would not have signed the certification of the results for georgia's 2020

presidential race, not with the information available at the time and that has come out now. they have plenty of time to investigate this, he says. and i wouldn't have signed it until those things were investigated. that's all we were asking for. reminder, the votes were cryptoed three times in georgia. each time it was found that fout biden legitimately won that state. i am joined by emma of axios here to comment on her reporting. explain to people why this is such a significant answer and remind us sort of how we got here. >> i think what is interesting about this race is we have two candidates in the republican primary. we have the incumbent governor brian kemp and his former ally, former senate david perdue. the issue separating them in a platform that largely aligns each other's is what happened in the 2020 election. senator per sue saying he would

not have signed the certification at this time with the information he had, there should have been more investigation. and kemp says state law doesn't allow that option. we have this kind of two versions of history here about the election that is dividing two candidates in a really tough primary shaping up. >> forgive me for sounded like a broken record but i feel like i have to say it. there was no evidence of widespread voter fraud in the state of georgia. did he talk about that? about the endorse men from donald trump? are we going to see them campaign together? >> we was clearly he hasn't asks for a reversal or a recount. he is talking about confidence in the election and talking about how republicans don't agree amongst themselves, and that that's a problem enough, and that more needs to be done. and he has of course gotten the endorsement of president trump already this week reporting from some of my colleagues.

we knew this was happening. and former president trump, who once endorsed brian kemp has pledged to do this for more than a year, pledged to campaign against incumbent governor brian kemp on this issue that he refused to overturn the election. and yes, the results were counted three times, once by hand. no widespread fraud. >> good to remind folks of that. one of the thing here -- it feels a little bit -- you are the expert, the one in georgia. it feels a little bit like the former senator here in this race for governor is really trying to position -- he has got to beat brian kemp, right? it feels more about the primary than it does about the general as relates to stacey abrams. although, do you see it as a potential way to mobilize the base there, if you will, the trump maga base? >> that's the argument from senator perdue and from his allies, that because governor kemp has lost the support of some of trump's base is the theory and that they will not be able to win in november without

every republican turning out. that is the basis for senator perdue's argument for coming in and why he believes he's the only candidate who can win against a democrat in november. >> georgia is such an interesting place to look at here, emma, as you well know. let me ask you, too, because it's not just the governor's race that's really high-profile. the secretary of state race is also. i mean, that has taken on real new significance. we don't normally talk about those kinds of races on the national level, but this one we are. explain that. >> i mean, up see this happening across the country, but especially in georgia. we are shaping up to have sort of a trump slate of republican candidates and other republicans like kemp or incumbent secretary of state raffensperger who drew the ire of almost everyone in his party it seemed last year. and president trump is come in and endorsing in these primaries and finding his guyings and his gals across the country and

pushing them forward at the exspence of incumbents who did not miss with him, as he would put it, on the 2020 election. >> emma, thank for being with us. we appreciate your team and your great reporting. want to get you over now to president biden, who is speaking now. we are going to listen in as he deliver as speech in missouri. a lot of americans today remember bob dole as a presidential candidate. but for familie he represented across the the border, he represented kansas for 36 years. and for those like me who had the honor of calling him a friend, bob dole was an american giant, a man of extraordinary courage, both physical can moral courage. a war hero who sacrificed beyond measure, who nearly gave his life for her country in world war ii. among the greatest of the great generation. a leader of hospital, decency,

and good humor. the same qualities that made him such a cherished friend to me and my wife, jill, and so many others through the years. we didn't agree on everything, but i always admired and respected him and his willingness to work with anyone, any party, when it mattered most. our nation owes bob dole a debt of gratitude for the remarkable service and a lyle well lived. [ applause ] being here this week reminds me of another great american giant, or rather, an american monarch. buck o'neill, the tennessee monarchs. [ applause ] a great ball player, the first black coach in the majors. one of the game's greatest ambassadors, and finally,

finally, a hall of famer. [ applause ] now, if the sunshined a little brighter on kansas city this week, it's because bob and buck are up there sharing a laugh with one another. i also want to acknowledge the mayor. you have done an amazing job on economic justice as well as economic progress. [ applause ] and i want to thank -- candidate executive frank wright. he lived the life i had hoped to live. he started off as a laborer. he helped build the royals' stadium as a player one of the best to play there, now he's an account executive in jackson county, runs the business as well. i mean, this guy has done it all i thought maybe i could make to it the pros but look what happened.

[ applause ] i actually was foolish enough to ask floyd little whether he could get his -- he was a friends of mine at syracuse, if he could get his agent to see if i could walk on. every year they allow 50 folks the walk on. well, guess what? he said he came back to me laughing. he said, my agent said they are afraid to ask you walk on, i would have to just carry you off. look, the infrastructure law i signed thanksgiving would not be possible -- this is not hyperbole -- without the leaders here today. congressman cleaner was a great mayor and significant leader in the house. before he was both those things, he was a pastor. and he saw -- he saw a highway cut through the neighborhood many of his congregants called

home. so he knows that we need to build our infrastructure the right way. not just build it, but build it the right way. he also is a big reason kansas city is adding electric buses to its fleet. zero fare, zero emissions. congressman, great idea. great idea. [ applause ] and congressman davis, there is no stronger advocate for infrastructure in the congress that i ever met. and as voice chair of the transportation and nfrgs committee your leadership was key in getting this passed. i want to thank you -- there you are. thank you, thank you, thank you. [ applause ] i also want to thank somebody else, roy blunt. he couldn't be here today but he was a important part of the bipartisan effort to get the infrastructure passed. that's what we are here about. [ applause ]

we are here talking about rebuilding in america, investing in america, building a better america. in the coming weeks i am going to be traveling all over the country, so will vice president harris, my cabinet, and folks throughout our administration. our building america better tour is give us a chance to meet people where they work, where they work, and hear -- the communities that they live in, what they need, hear firsthand and showcase how our bipartisan infrastructure law, which has changed their lives for the better, came about, because we worked together. we can learn more about this law and what it means for your community. go to build.gov. look, the better part of the 20th century we led the world by a significant margin in our willingness to invest in ourselves. in ourselves. we invested in our infrastructure. we -- >> you have been listening to president biden speaking live in kansas city, missouri. we will have more coverage of

that later tonight here on msnbc. for now, nicolle wallace picks it up with "deadline: white house," right now. ♪♪ hi there, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. the january 6th select committee making clear today that it will not sit idly by while the disgraced ex president and his aides and allies work to obstruct their investigation into the deadly capitol insurrection. the committee chair saying the committee will move ahead with contempt proceedings against mark meadows after meadows failed to show up today for his deposition. the prospect of meadows following in the footsteps of trump ally steve bannon and facing criminal concept charges for defying a congressional subpoena, a subpoena from the body in which he once served comes after meadows actually struck a deal to testify and after he produced lots and lots

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