Skip to main content

tv   The Reid Out  MSNBC  December 14, 2021 4:00pm-5:00pm PST

4:00 pm
let me put it like this, every night is a good night to watch "the reidout" but tonight you might have to watch the whole thing because it's a big news night and "the reidout" with joy reid will have you covered. >> it's not always exciting what is coming out of the hill but it is today. so we're excited about it. thank you very much, ari. appreciate it. have a wonderful night. good evening. indeed, we begin "the reidout" with breaking news from capitol hill. within the next hour, the united states house of representatives will likely vote to refer donald trump's former chief of staff who also happens to be a former colleague as a member of congress, if they vote to move
4:01 pm
forward with contempt and if the justice department follows through with charges, mark meadows would become the first former chief of staff to face prosecution since h.r. of the nixon administration. the problem for meadows in this contempt proceeding is he snitched on his team before he clammed up. he has turned over roughly 9,000 pages of documents that he himself claimed were not privileged but he's now refusing to answer questions about those very documents in defiance of a congressional subpoena. here is how chairman bennie thompson put it before the vote. >> when you produce records, you are expected to come in and answer questions about those records and because not even mr. meadows was asserting any privilege claim over these records, there is no possible justification for whole sale refusing to answer questions about them.
4:02 pm
if you're making excuses to avoid cooperating with our investigation, you're making excuses to hide the truth from the american people about what happened on january 6th. you're making excuses as part of a coverup. >> in other words, it is kind of open and shut. we've also heard new evidence today, congresswoman zoey revealed meadows was receiving texts from an official in georgia with secretary raffensperger telling meadows to end this call. congressman adam schiff revealed an unidentified person texted meadows with knowledge of trump's plan to install an attorney general who would be receptive to ampliies his false claims of election fraud and revealed that meadows received encrypted messages from a member
4:03 pm
of congress. this comes after the committee revealed other damming messages as the insurrection was unfolding at the capitol. trump's administration officials and others on ambiguously demanded meadows told trump to take action to stop the siege, to quote a few, potus has to calm this expletive down. fix this now. tell them to go down. liz cheney read more. >> here are a few others from republican members. quote, it is really bad up here on the hill. another one, the president needs to stop this asap. another one, fix this now. but we know hours passed with no action by the president to defend the congress of the
4:04 pm
united states from an assault while we were trying to count electoral votes. >> she might as well have added tell trump it was me who got him. the text from those republicans made it clear that they believe that trump and only trump was capable of calling off the mob, which means they knew that he was responsible for what was happening. trump even ignored the pleas from his own name sake son who texted meadows and weirdly not his dad to demand that his father show some leadership. he has to lead now donald trump junior said. it has gone too far and gotten out of hand. last but not least, trump also ignored pleas for action from his right wing allies at fox news including laura ingraham, brian kilmeade and sean hannity. i should note per mother jones, meadows mentioned none of those texts in his book published last
4:05 pm
week. despite the urgency, trump didn't lift a finger. in dereliction of his duty. two organizers of the rally at the e lims are poised to expose the members of congress who participated in the insurrection. that is according to rolling stone which reports that dustin stockton and jennifer lawrence will deliver testimony and turnover documents including text messages that indicate the extensive involvement members of congress and the trump administration had in planning the house challenge to certify biden's election. joining me is adam schiff of california. a member of the house committee. i want to start off where i ended in the open. two more people are poised to come forward, hand every documents and evidence specifically about members of congress and about members of
4:06 pm
the administration who participated. at what point, chairman thompson said eventually there will be a public release of who these members are. in your view, do not the consit -- constituents have a right to know their member of congress was involved in an attempted coup? >> yes, they do and what's more, the whole country has a right to know what members of congress were doing and what role they played in a violent attack on our capitol. we're trying to balance that need and that desire for the public to know with the investigative needs at this moment and that is we don't want witnesses to be able to benefit from public information and use it to shade their testimony or use it to conceal things because they know the length and breath of what the committee possesses. so there will be a right time to make this public and indeed, we'll be early in the new year going to public hearings, which we've held back for the same
4:07 pm
reason. yes, i think they do have a right to know. i think they will find out. >> you revealed that an unidentified person texted meadows with knowledge, basically an attorney general to do his bidding to undermine the election. can you tell us who that person was? >> i can't tell you who that person was but with respect to some of these messages, we may not know who these people are. it's a reason we want meadows to come in. some messages might come from members we haven't yet identified and so, but that particular message is i think very notable because here you had a jeffrey clark reportedly involved in efforts to get georgia to withhold appointing a slate of electors or alternate one using the department of justice for these things trying to get the leadership to make statements about non-existent massive fraud and angling for
4:08 pm
the top job. this person texting chief of staff thought he got the top job and would be named on monday. >> this is testifying the idea that you had the former chief of staff mark meadows on the phone during some of these calls in georgia which is the subject of a criminal proceeding. at this point, should mark meadows be concerned that he may face criminal lie bltd the same way that trump potentially faces criminal liability for what was done in georgia? >> i don't want to comment on whether meadows might face criminal liability. we have witnesses that are asserting their fifth amendment right because they believe their testimony might incriminate them. they and their counsel have to make these determinations. but i do think that not only the fulton county d.a. but frankly the justice department ought to be investigating the efforts of the former president and people
4:09 pm
around him to essentially find 11,780 votes that don't exist, to find just the number of votes that would put him over the top and beat joe biden when those votes did not exist. i think if you or i or any of our viewers -- your viewers were in a recorded conversation like that one, we would be under investigation. >> are we about to see multiple members of congress potentially facing contempt charges or pleading the fifth in what seems to be pretty vast conspiracy for lack of a better word among trump supporters inside of the congress, some inside of his staff, perhaps some inside of the justice department to try to overturn a lawful election? >> i don't know the answer to that. i can tell you that in other investigations, the russia investigation, we had a democratic member of congress come testify. we had a republican member of congress come testify. there is certainly precedent for members to do that.
4:10 pm
those members did so voluntarily. i would hope those who have relevant testimony here would do the same. if they don't, then we'll have to make those decisions at that point. >> you know, it's been sort of fascinating to watch the kind of news that's coming out, not just the rolling stone piece but this news members of people who lived in the villages, which is a very republican part of florida now have been charged with actual voter fraud. we're actually seeing there was attempted voter fraud but it seems to fall on the donald trump side of the ledger. what do you make of the fact these attempts to sort of throw off this entire election as fraudulent and detail, the memos were detailed, this power point was detailed when in fact the actual fraud was taking place among republicans. >> we've seen this time and time again and you probably remember, i think in north carolina a few years ago, a massive absentee scandal where people were picking up ballots and not
4:11 pm
returning them and that was all the gop side. but what i find also so striking about this is they failed with this effort to essentially make fraud where it didn't exist before but they put in place the apparatus for 2024 where they can't overturn the election and see where they failed in 2020 even in the absence of any fraud is among the most chilling they are doing right now. >> even mitch mcconnell has seemed to express knowing identities of the conspiracy. are you concerned that if republicans are able to take the house of representatives and squash this and end the goals and wait it out and ban this committee. the actual crime will be covered up.
4:12 pm
>> first of all, we'll do everything we can in the democratic party governor mccarthy would become speaker. but in terms. would that mean certain things were not uncovered? we'll be moving with all the expedition we can. we are to make sure we get out all the facts as soon as possible. we want to protect the public to help us legislate in ways so we're doing that anyway. but yes, if there is further information to claim we haven't finished accumulating by the end of next year and they should take over the congress more than to cover up. >> after the insurrection took place this is what kevin mccarthy said, he said the president bears responsibility for wednesday and mob rioters.
4:13 pm
he should have denounced the mob as he saw it unfolding. these facts require immediate action on president trump. there seems to be a lot of agreement among republicans at that time including on that day that they changed their minds afterwards. congressman adam schiff, thanks for being here. we'll continue to keep an eye on the house floor where we expect any moment a vote on criminal contempt charges on mark meadows. the stunning hypocrisy of fox news host revealed by private text messages obtained by the january 6th committee. >> quote, mark, the president needs to tell people to go home. this is hurting all of us. he is destroying his legacy. laura ingraham wrote. plus, the growing swell of voting rights. joe madison joins us on day 37 of his hunger strike. we'll also get a live report on rescue and recovery efforts in the wake of this weekend's
4:14 pm
deadly tornado and later, are you not entertained? tonight's absolute worst is a feel good story that doesn't feel good. "the reidout" continues after this. "the reidout" continues after this but all my employees need something different. oh, we can help with that. okay, imagine this. your mover, rob, he's on the scene and needs a plan with a mobile hotspot. we cut to downtown, your sales rep lisa has to send some files, like asap! so basically i can pick the right plan for each employee. yeah i should've just led with that. with at&t business. you can pick the best plan for each employee and get the best deals on every smart phone. ♪ ♪ 'tis the season to break tradition in a cadillac. don't just put on a light show—be the light show. make your nights anything but silent. and ride in a sleigh that really slays. because in a cadillac, tradition is yours to define.
4:15 pm
so visit a cadillac showroom, and start celebrating today. ♪ ♪ as a dj, i know all about customization. so visit a cadillac showroom, and start celebrating today. that's why i love liberty mutual. they customize my car insurance, so i only pay for what i need. how about a throwback? ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪
4:16 pm
most bladder leak pads were similar. until always discreet invented a pad that protects differently. with two rapiddry layers. for strong protection, that's always discreet. question your protection. try always discreet. at intra-cellular therapies, we're inspired by our circle. a circle that includes our researchers, driven by our award-winning science, who uncover new medicines to treat mental illness. it includes the compassionate healthcare professionals, the dedicated social workers, and the supportive peer counselors we work with
4:17 pm
to help improve - and even change - people's lives. moving from mental illness to mental wellness starts in our circle. this is intra-cellular therapies. it's another day. and anything could happen. it could be the day you welcome 1,200 guests and all their devices. or it could be the day there's a cyberthreat. only comcast business' secure network solutions give you the power of sd-wan and advanced security integrated on our activecore platform so you can control your network
4:18 pm
from anywhere, anytime. it's network management redefined. every day in business is a big day. we'll keep you ready for what's next. comcast business powering possibilities. so it goes without saying that for trump's time in office and with few exceptions, fox news and particularly a number of on air hosts acted as his unofficial advisors and time and again tried to play defense for the orange autocrat president. case in point, their efforts to down play january 6th as no big deal and full of perpetrators that were anything but trump supporters. but now, the january 6th committee has shined a bright scathing light on their hypocrisy by sharing what these tv personalities were texting trump's chief of staff as the capitol was under attack. that may come as no surprise to learn it does not quite match what they were saying to their audiences that very night.
4:19 pm
listen to what laura ingraham texted. >> quote, mark, the president needs to tell people in the capitol to go home. this is hurting all of us. he is destroying his legacy laura ingraham wrote. >> and yet, here is how she portrayed the capitol siege mere hours later. >> now they were likely not all trump supporters and there are reports antifa sympathizers may be sprinkled throughout the crowd. i haven't seen trump rally attendees wearing helmets, black helmets, brown helmets, black backpacks. the uniforms that you saw in some of these crowd shots. >> they don't wear black. brian made this plea. >> please get him on tv destroying everything you have
4:20 pm
accomplished brian kilmeade texted. >> the morning news anchor made a late night appearance on fox to say this. >> i do not know trump supporters that have ever demonstrated violence that i know of in a big situation. >> uh-huh. and even sean hannity, the prime time host whose former executive producer literally went into the white house as trump's communications director for a time felt the need to reach out to meadows. >> quote, can he make a statement ask people to leave the capitol sean hannity urged. >> but of course on his show he downplayed the actions of those same trump supporters. >> like all americans, we watched this small group of people that was pretty big but compared to the overall crowd it was not the majority of people. the vast majority in washington d.c. today were peaceful. >> no matter how they try to down play or blame antifa or the
4:21 pm
left or whatever, their texts tell the truth. only donald trump could call off the insurrectionists because they were his insurrectionists. he's the one who called on those gullible thugged out maga fans to bring the fight to the capitol that day, to try to over throw a legitimate election period with a t. joining us is elie, i have to start with you. a lot of folks they're out there, with you maga crowd, your thoughts? >> they are liars that's what they do. they have lied about this and other things and when you pull them into court and sue for defamation, they will say in
4:22 pm
court no reasonable person takes my show seriously. that was the tucker carlson legal argument. no person takes my show seriously. that worked by the way. that was a fine legal argument that got him out of legal hot water. we know what they are. they know what they are. like, everybody is in on the joke except for the gullible white supremacist viewers of fox news and that's where we have the call. look, i admit, it's hard for me to talk about because as a black man, i don't got family that watched that channel. i don't have family that, like, you know, buys into the white supremacist rhetoric that channel puts out but a lot of y'all white people do. you have a cousin, you have an uncle, you have somebody out there watching that trash and you think you as the reasonable person, it's their fault. they took my daddy. they took my grand papi. it's laura ingraham. it's not their fault. it's not fox news' fault.
4:23 pm
your family members are watching that because that is what they believe. your family members are watching that because it fits the narrative your family members have and that's where you have to break the chain. these fox news hosts as you said, joy, they understand they're entertainers. they're telling the people what they want to hear. we have to work on why the people want to hear it. >> it's a good point, michelle. here is the challenge. today those who have been paying attention to how they covered the mark meadows saga found they didn't cover it. mark meadows literally went on with hannity and didn't talk about his or hannity's interactions with each other. they were interacting that day with hannity saying oh my god, make this stop and he was an advisor to donald trump, wanted it to stop. they didn't even discuss it. fox news ignored the story today and here is the problem. they can ignore it because their people only watch fox. they don't go outside of the bubble. they're never going to look over
4:24 pm
here. they're only going to watch this and they will come out of this dramatic day when the former chief of staff to the president of the united states goes down the route and they won't even know about it. your thoughts? >> my understanding is that some of these hosts are going to address this show on fox -- or address these comments on fox tonight but i think you and elie are right about the contempt for the audience and unwillingness to break character and to me, part of the evidence for that is if you're a fox news host and you want to reach donald trump, the way to do it is not go through mark meadows. we saw so many news stories over the course of the trump administration about how the only way people in his own administration could get through to him was to go on fox news. so if they were really worried about the capitol, if they were really worried about democracy and they really want to say to trump call off your thugs, they could have said it on tv where he would listen, right? but they didn't want to do that
4:25 pm
because they didn't want to let their audience in on what was happening. instead they used this much less effective back channel. >> here is what is sad. you know who does have to go through mark meadows to talk to donald trump? john june done -- don junior. you can't even get a text from your daddy. >> this was a genuine shock to me. i would not have pegged don junior as more reasonable than donald trump. >> oh, he's the biggest actor of them all. if you read mary trump's account of that family, you know, donald trump slapped him for thinking about joining the military because he thought the military were losers. the relationship between the two people named donald trump, there needs to be a psychiatrist on this panel to make that make sense. there is a lot going on there. even he comes out and is telling, you know, mark meadows, not his own father but mark meadows, make it stop. saying he has to get out here
4:26 pm
and show leadership. he's got to show leadership. but let's show don junior on fox news with mark meadows and this is before the rally. here he was dancing around. let's show him. >> mark meadows an actual fighter, one of the few. a real fighter. thank you, mark. >> have the courage to do the right thing, fight. >> one of the president's sons texted mr. meadows, quote, he's got to condemn this shit asap. the capitol police tweet is not enough. quote, we need an oval office address. he has to lead now. it has gone too far and gotten out of hand. >> it's sad. sad, sad, sad. really quick, let me make a real quick turn and ask you a legal question. the "wall street journal" said he lost the bid for the tax
4:27 pm
return. your thoughts? another shield dropping. >> that was a trump loving judge by the way. a person before that just shows that the entire always begins with but let's remember trump got away with shielding his tax returns throughout the entire election cycle and so, he's already gotten the benefit of shielding taxes but it can't go on forever is the thought eventually as the man said. >> yeah, i know for our audience over the attack on the capitol. we'll get into more of that. we'll keep up with this. michelle, elie, thank you very much. appreciate you. coming up, hunger strike by voting rights activist like our next guest are some examples of how seriously activists are taking this latest threat to our
4:28 pm
democracy and we continue to keep an eye on the house floor where we expect any moment a vote on criminal contempt charges from mark meadows. stay with us. t charges from mark meadows. stay with us when our daughter and her kids moved in with us... our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. turns out it's mostly water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. [daughter] slurping don't pay for water. pay for clean. it's got to be tide. when it comes to autism, finding the right words can be tough. finding understanding doesn't have to be. together, we can create a kinder, more inclusive world for the millions of people on the autism spectrum.
4:29 pm
go to autismspeaks.org firefighter maggie gronewald knows how to handle dry weather... ...and dry, cracked skin. new gold bond advanced healing ointment. restore healthy skin, with no sticky feeling. gold bond. champion your skin. when you really need to sleep you reach for the really good stuff. with no sticky feeling.
4:30 pm
new zzzquil ultra helps you sleep better and longer when you need it most. it's non habit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil. new zzzquil ultra. when you really really need to sleep. ♪ ♪ ♪ "how bizarre" by omc ♪ no annual fee on any discover card. ♪ ♪ ♪ no annual fee on any discover card. ♪ downy's been taking you back, since way back. with freshness and softness you never forget. feel the difference with downy. you've been taking mental health meds, and your mind is finally in a better place. except now you have uncontrollable body movements called tardive dyskinesia td. and it can seem like that's all people see. ♪ some meds for mental health can cause abnormal dopamine signaling in the brain. while how it works is not fully understood,
4:31 pm
ingrezza is thought to reduce that signaling. ingrezza is a prescription medicine used to treat adults with td movements in the face and body. people taking ingrezza can stay on their current dose of most mental health meds. don't take ingrezza if you're allergic to any of its ingredients. ingrezza may cause serious side effects, including sleepiness. don't drive, operate heavy machinery, or do other dangerous activities until you know how ingrezza affects you. other serious side effects include potential heart rhythm problems and abnormal movements. shift the focus more on you. ask your doctor about ingrezza. it's simple. one pill, once-daily. #1 prescribed for td. learn how you could pay as little as $0 at ingrezza.com
4:32 pm
okay. we have breaking news tonight. the senate has passed a bill to raise the debt limit by $2.5 trillion to prevent the u.s. economy from going into the tank. senators with zero republicans helping out. a path forward on voting rights remains clear. >> what about bipartisanship? isn't that important? i say of course it is.
4:33 pm
here is the thing we must remember. slavery was bipartisan. jim crow segregation was bipartisan. the refusal of women suffrage was bipartisan, the denial of the lgbtq community has long been bipartisan. when committee members talk about bipartisanship i have to ask at whose expense? >> while the focus is often on the mansion and sinema games, the non-stop on the ground protest. a fight that's taken extreme measures. joe madison has been on a hunger strike since november 8th. that's 37 days and he isn't the
4:34 pm
only one. joining me is voting rights activist joe madison on a hunger strike for voting rights. thank you for being here, joe. how are you doing? >> there are good days. there are bad days. today wasn't necessary one of the best physically so i took time to rest so that i could be here with you. but i'm going to do what has to be done and i can't tell you how proud i am and to see the commitment particularly from the young people from arizona and even west virginia. you know, they remind me very much of when john lewis was very young and did sit ins and demonstrations and they are just a continuation. this is important but my spirits, joy, are being lifted
4:35 pm
because i -- senators are telling me to keep it up. hit the streets. virtual, text, calls, there appears to be -- well, they are senators like warnock and others are committed to getting this done by the end of the year. so that's -- but we -- it's up to us now. that's really what it boils down to, yeah. >> rather than telling you to keep it up, maybe they could pass the bill. here is senator warnock. he gave an exclusive interview to nbc news and this is what he said. they changed the rules when they needed to. they changed the rules when they needed to, didn't take long -- >> 169 times. >> 50 of them including mansion voted for it. here is senator warnock earlier today. >> we think it's so important that we changed the rule in
4:36 pm
order to get there. in order to save the economy. well, the warning lights on our democracy are blinking right now. and we seem unwilling to respond with the same urgency to protect the democracy that we have to protect the economy. >> how are you doing? this is your ninth day on a hunger strike. you're not 72 like joe madison but you're a human being that needs substance to live so how are you doing? >> i won't lie to you. it's very difficult. the hunger comes in waves but as mr. madison knows, this is an urgent issue. so it requires urgent action. >> but you're in arizona. has your senator kyrsten sinema
4:37 pm
who is in the way of getting votes rights done, has she reached out to you and your colleagues? >> my colleagues and i met with senator sinema last week. she reiterated her support for strong. >> what did she say she's doing to do instead? >> she said she would support it and willing to go out of her way to make it happen. >> here is the problem, joe, it requires the people that have power, if she did, she would do when she voted to change the rules of the debt ceiling, right? my challenge -- my question to you is the same. what have senators actually said they're going to do? if they don't care enough to save the lives of people who are clearly on the side of democracy, i don't know what else to tell them. >> well, what i've been told is
4:38 pm
what we should do. maybe she doesn't come across as giving a damn but maybe she gives a damn about her job because quite candidly and my message would be to senator sinema, you're going to lose. this is what the people of arizona are telling you. you are going to lose. you will not be back in the senate there are senators who understand that at this point in time, yes, they have the power to carve out the filibuster and many of them are now approaching that. they're now talking about that. that's what i'm hearing from the senators. we're talking about it. we are trying to figure it out. and i know, joy, because you and i have known each other a long time and i can see it in your
4:39 pm
face the skepticism but this is when people must speak up. this is when we must pray. so what i've been told is everybody use whatever resource you have and contact these senators and tell them to do it so that people know, eric holder was on my show today and he said look, they have carved out the filibuster -- what did he say? like they carve a turkey. >> yes. >> they have done 160 times since 1969 and this -- what your segment before you just did, let me tell you what will happen if the house loses. let me tell you what is going to happen. you know what's going to happen. this country will flip and so it's now up to -- this is up to us and that's what i've been told and i believe that they
4:40 pm
need to hear from everybody that this is the corner stone of democracy is the vote. it all starts with our vote. >> and i'm just going to let folks no there are a lot of people protesting. you guys are doing what you're doing, which is super brave and mr. barber is out there. everyone is out there. please senators, do something, please. joe madison, indeed. you-all -- i wish you well. i truly do and hope this works. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> tonight's absolute worse is still ahead but first, charles booker joins us to talk about the heartbreaking aftermath of the devastaing tornados in his home state of kentucky and several neighboring states and the u.s. house will vote on criminal contempt charges against mark meadows at any moment so stay with us. meadows moment so stay with us do i need to pretreat my laundry? nope! with tide pods, you don't need to worry. the pre-treaters are built in.
4:41 pm
tide pods dissolve even when the water is freezing. nice! if it's got to be clean, it's got to be tide. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ biden: this is the challenge of our collective lifetime. and every day we delay, the cost of inaction increases. we have the ability to invest in ourselves and build an equitable, clean energy future, and in the process, create millions of good-paying jobs and opportunities around the world. there's no more time to hang back or sit on the fence
4:42 pm
or argue amongst ourselves. so let this be the moment that we answer history's call. - [narrator] this is steve. he used to have gum problems. now, he uses therabreath healthy gums oral rinse with clinically-proven ingredients and his gum problems have vanished. (crowd applauding) therabreath, it's a better mouthwash. at walmart, target and other fine stores. do you struggle with occasional nerve aches in your hands or feet? try nervivenerve relief from the world's #1 selling nerve care company.
4:43 pm
nervive contains alpha lipoic acid to relieve occasional nerve aches, weakness and discomfort. try nervivenerve relief. with downy infusions, let the scent set the mood. feel the difference with downy. people, with quickbooks live someone else will do your books for you. they'll even pair you with an expert bookkeeper like me, who knows your business. knows your business! expert bookkeepers who understand your business. intuit quickbooks live bookkeeping. ♪ i see trees of green ♪ expert bookkeepers who understand your business. ♪ red roses too ♪
4:44 pm
♪ i see them bloom for me and you ♪ (music) ♪ so i think to myself ♪ ♪ oh what a wonderful world ♪
4:45 pm
88 people have lost their lives after a series of tornados hit six states over the weekend leaving a massive trail of destruction. the largest of the storms traveled more than 200 miles in what may be one of the longest tornado paths in u.s. history. likely fueled by unseasonably warm air for december. welcome to the terrifying reality of climate change, a.k.a. climate change. president biden plans to visit kentucky tomorrow to view the damage there. the state was hit particularly hard with 74 dead and more than 100 still missing and 18,000 left without power. eight of the deaths were workers at a candle factory entirely levelled. nbc news has a stunning report those factory workers were threatened with firing if they left amid tornado warnings. for hours as word of the coming storm spread as many as 15 workers asked managers to let them take shelter at their homes to have their request denied the workers said. at least five workers said
4:46 pm
supervisors warned employees they would be fired if they left their shifts early. company officials denied the allegations. i'm joined by nbc news correspondent alison barber in kentucky. what's the latest there? >> reporter: hey, joy, this is a community that president biden is expected to visit tomorrow. at least a dozen people have died in this community alone. a number are still unaccounted for. the woman who lived in this house that is now reduced to a pile of rubble was trapped under all this debris underneath her mattress. she showed us the bruises up and down her arms, the puncture wounds where nails from falling debris literally went into her arm. if you look over here, you'll see this gigantic truck. i asked her if this was her car and she says she has no idea where it came from but crawled by this when she was able to make it out of the rubble. survivors don't know where to
4:47 pm
begin here because if you look around, everything is gone. this woman she told me i am 52 years old. i am a single mother and i've lost everything but i am alive. to give you a sense of where people go from here, this woman was here with the help of one of her son's friends looking for her purse because she needed her driver's license. she lost her car and has no way to get a rental car and no money. the bills don't stop even when you go through something as traumatic as this, joy? >> my god. my god. alison barber, thank you very much. wow. thank you. with me now is former kentucky state representative charles booker who is a candidate for the united states senate. charles, good to see you. i have to ask how your family, your community are doing. >> joy, good to be with you again. my family is holding up but we're all grieving. the pain and trama is really hard to put words to. i'll cry tonight like i have the
4:48 pm
past few nights. we're seeing something i could have never imagined and the hardest part is to move forward as we try to piece together what the future looks like. >> yeah, now it's difficult and so i have to ask you, let's start with these factory workers because i feel like this is a story partly about this country just deciding to ignore climate collapse and pretend like it isn't happening and now we're here in the midst of it, fire, floods, tornados, the weather that shouldn't be happening in december. it's here. the people that are suffering the most will be the people you talk about a lot in your campaign, people who are low wage workers. this candle factory collapse is a huge tragedy. people who are told you will be fired if you don't come to work even though there is a disaster coming. your thoughts? >> absolutely right. the collapse of the factory speaks to a lot of challenges we've ignored as a society. we've exploited people. we have chosen to look away from
4:49 pm
the climate crisis. we have chosen to avoid the investments in infrastructure. we have chosen profits of the people and as a result, there were hard working kentuckiens that were told if they left to be safe, they would lose their job. they chose their job to take care of their family and some of them are gone. this is really a moment we have to address priorities and i'm bringing this to my campaign for senate because kentucky deserves better, our country deserves better and honestly, joy, i call this the great exexploitation. we've been taking hard working people for granted for so long we haven't had a chance to experience anything other than poverty. it has to change and hopefully a painful moment like this can really jar our conscience so we can stand together and fight for that change. >> it's kind of odd to have one of the most powerful politicians in the country be representing your state and have that much poverty and then the man you're running against rand paul who is
4:50 pm
now for disaster funding, he's asked to be moved forward for his state but when it came to puerto rico, his quote was people are full of great compassion when it's someone else's money. he was opposed to disaster funding for people devastated by hurricane in puerto rico but really took pretty nasty swipes at it. he's now said that criticism is false and he only cares it's being paid for. your thoughts. >> well, my focus has been on the people of kentucky. my family. the folks i love dearly. i'm running for them. but the fact of the matter is rand paul is a liar. rand paul does not care about us. he does not care whether we live or die. he wants to hold on to his seat but he doesn't want to do anything with and it's a joke to say he's saying well, let me give $100,000 out of my campaign funds to help people i've abandoned for too long. and my response is, well, it's good that special interests and
4:51 pm
lobbyist money will actually finally help the people of kentucky for a change. look, we are trying to build a brighter future in the midst of such incredibly hard times. and we need to get rand paul out of the way so we can do that work. >> and his objections to giving money to the people in puerto rico, he claims it's just about fiscal responsibility. what do you make of the fact that suddenly now he doesn't have -- i mean, kentucky needs the money. and by the way, we all want kentucky to get the money. but the fact that he said no, no, no, when it was every other state, particularly states full of, you know, black and brown folks, let's just be real, even though kentucky has as well, that he now is like but i want the money now. your thoughts. >> well, i think the challenging times really expose leadership but they also expose hypocrites. and he has stood in the u.s. senate and blocked relief for so many of our loved ones across the country over the years including the 9/11 first responders. when a crisis hits, rand paul is nowhere to be found. so now in this moment where he
4:52 pm
feels the heat because the people of kentucky are waiting to remove him from his seat he wants to show up. but it's too late. >> yeah. well, i wish you well. for your family, your community and obviously the entire state of kentucky. and we are so sorry for what happened and god bless all of you you. thank you, charles booker. appreciate you being here. tonight's absolute worst is still ahead. it is heartbreaking and enraging. oh, my god. you do not want to miss it. to mt when our daughter and her kids moved in with us... our bargain detergent couldn't keep up. turns out it's mostly water. so, we switched back to tide. one wash, stains are gone. [daughter] slurping don't pay for water. pay for clean. it's got to be tide. at intra-cellular therapies, we're inspired by our circle.
4:53 pm
a circle that includes our researchers, driven by our award-winning science, who uncover new medicines to treat mental illness. it includes the compassionate healthcare professionals, the dedicated social workers, and the supportive peer counselors we work with to help improve - and even change - people's lives. moving from mental illness to mental wellness starts in our circle. this is intra-cellular therapies. ♪ limu emu... & doug ♪ ♪ superpowers from a spider bite? i could use some help showing the world how liberty mutual customizes their car insurance so they only pay for what they need. (gasps) ♪ did it work? only pay for what you need ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ spider-man no way home in theaters december 17th
4:54 pm
nurse mariyam sabo knows a moment this pure... ...demands a lotion this pure. new gold bond pure moisture lotion. 24-hour hydration. no parabens, dyes, or fragrances. gold bond. champion your skin. - oh...oh. - what's going on? - oh, darn! - let me help. no parabens, dyes, or fragrances. lift and push and push! there... it's up there. hey joshie... wrinkles send the wrong message. help prevent them with downy wrinkleguard. feel the difference with downy. - san francisco can have criminal justice reform and public safety.
4:55 pm
but district attorney chesa boudin is failing on both. - the safety of san francisco is dependent upon chesa being recalled as soon as possible. - i didn't support the newsom recall but this is different. - chesa takes a very radical perspective and approach to criminal justice reform, which is having a negative impact on communities of color. - i never in a million years thought that my son, let alone any six-year-old, would be gunned down in the streets of san francisco and not get any justice. - chesa's failure has resulted in increase in crime against asian americans. - the da's office is in complete turmoil at this point. - for chesa boudin to intervene in so many cases is both bad management and dangerous for the city of san francisco. - we are for criminal justice reform. chesa's not it. recall chesa boudin now.
4:56 pm
america is in the midst of a second gilded age. as millions of americans struggle to get by while the ultra rich get richer. on the heels of a pandemic that's only exacerbated our country's already radical wealth inequality. just look the this weekend. when teachers in south dakota were invited to a dash for cash event at a hockey game sponsored by a local mortgage company. as is so often the case it was billed as something heartwarming to do something awesome for teachers. but what exactly is heartwarming about ten underpaid teachers, people given the responsibility of taking care of other people's most precious resource, their children, during a pandemic no less, crawling around on an icy floor stuffing dollar bills into their shirts for a few hundred bucks for classroom supplies while spectators cheer them on? that's not heartwarming. it's a dystopian nightmare. squid games american style or
4:57 pm
the hungary games. according to the national education association south dakota is ranked second to last in the nation in teacher salary. and teachers across the country have long been shelling out their own money to pay for school supplies, which they should not have to do. meanwhile, also filed under what does this say about our country, this week "time" magazine named world's richest man elon musk as person of the year. the same elon musk who says democrats should can president biden's build back better bill, which would help women and children and families. while calling for an end to all government subsidies even though he built his empire with government subsidies. meanwhile, his competitor in the billionaire space race, amazon ceo jeff bezos, celebrated another launch of his space tourism for high rollers rocket. and only later acknowledged the six amazon workers killed in the collapse of one of his company's warehouses during friday's devastating tornadoes. it goes without saying insead of
4:58 pm
spending billions on becoming rocket men they could pay their share in income taxes since pro publica found that they've paid virtually nothing. but even the faux right-wing populists who claim to care about the little guy are just in for the grist. like christian walker. son of georgia republican senate candidate herschel and -- oh, yes, a professional influencer. complaining about gas prices. >> y'all said joe biden was going to be the great unifier? this is divisive to my bank account and my hard-earned money. >> that man of the people was wearing a $1,300 sweatshirt for that screed. and he later said that people dragging him were just jealous and lazy poors. what do you expect from a supporter of the literal gold tower dwelling former president who continues to grist his supporters, collecting a billion dollars for a social media company that does nothing. like the robber barons of the first gilded age some of today's
4:59 pm
ultra rich think they can just throw cash at the problem through charity. jeff bezos spends billions on his ten-minute space tours but in june he announced a $200 million donation to today trump became president chatter van jones and the wonderful jose andres for the charities of their choice. when he could have just not spend billions to do what nasa already did in the 1960s. and that is why that video of south dakota teachers is so, well, disgusting. charity stunts that purport to do something good just mask the reality of our societal failures. instead of reveling in a gladiator style scramble for cash for classroom supplies and the organizers for the hockey team and sponsor have since apologized, the haves could just pay their fair share and then we could properly fund public education and pay teachers a living wage. if teachers had appropriate paid leave or our health care system wasn't obscenely inaffordable we wouldn't get good news stories about teachers donating sick
5:00 pm
days for their cancer-stricken colleagues. there's nothing inspiring about citizens forced to go found me their way into a social safety net. and we need to recognize this poverty porn for what it is. because american inequality and our consistent refusal to address our broken system is the absolute worst. that's tonight's "reid out." "all in" with chris hayes starts now. tonight on "all in" -- >> mr. meadows received numerous text messages which he has produced without any privilege claim. indeed, some of those text messages, madam speaker, came from members in the chamber right now. >> the full house votes on contempt for meadows, and the maga mouthpiece goes silent. >> there has been zero mentions on fox news of their host's texts to mark meadows. >> tonight new evidence around donald trump's attempt to overthrow the government and the right-wing media organ abetting him. >> there are some reports that antifa sympathizers may have been

153 Views

info Stream Only

Uploaded by TV Archive on