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a very good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome, everyone, to "alex witt reports." we've got the latest for you happening at 2:00 p.m. eastern, 11:00 a.m. pacific time. we're beginning with big breaking news out of washington. a new reaction coming in by the hour, one of the key pieces of the president's agenda is now facing its biggest obstacle yet. senator joe manchin, one of the 50 senators needed to pass the president's build back better legislation, publicly stating today pretty definitively he will not vote for the social spending package. >> i've always said this, brett.

if i can't go home and explain it to the people of west virginia, i can't vote for it. and i cannot vote to continue with this piece of legislation. i just can't. i've tried everything humanly possible. i can't get there. >> you're done, this is a no? >> this is a no. on this legislation. i have tried everything i know to do. >> his comments have sent shockwaves through capitol hill and beyond as reaction has been pouring in. earlier today multiple progressive lawmakers responded to senator manchin. >> there are six of us who have been saying this all along. we have been saying this for weeks that this would happen. >> not a huge shock, but i have caveat that with it's not over yet. >> one person that will hold up assistance to the american people is absolutely disgusting and amazing to me.

if he wants to be that person that will stand up before the american people and deny assistance to the people of this country, put the bill up on the floor and let him vote it up or down. >> joining us now. welcome all. josh, you first here. is the build back better act effectively dead, and is there anything that president biden can do to save it? >> well, alex, i'm reminded of that famous line from the movie of "princess bride" where billy crystal's character says there's a difference between all dead and mostly dead. mostly dead is still slightly alive. i think that's kind of where build back better is right now, somewhere between all dead and slightly alive. and as far as what the white house could do to resurrect it, i think it boils down to something that manchin has been saying both publicly and

privately for months now, which is that he doesn't buy into this notion that you can take a program, be it the child tax credit or a pre-k universal funding and say, okay, we're going to only fund this for two years or three years and use that to keep the price tag of this bill low when he fully expects those are going to be things that a future congress is going to want to extend into perpetuity and that he wants to see that funded for ten years. the white house has known for a long time that that was his position. but they also knew that if they increased those things and funded it for ten years, like he was saying, that the price tag of this would mushroom so big, so much higher than what manchin said he could support that they would be forced to choose between key democratic priorities. they couldn't have it all essentially. here is how joe manchin described that division when he spoke to fox news earlier today. >> i've tried. i really did. and the president was trying as

hard as he could. he has an awful lot of arms in the fire right now, more on his plate that he needs for this to continue when i'm having the difficulties i'm having, and basically the challenges we have from different parts of our party basically pushing in different ways. so everyone still has the aspirational things they want to do. they say, well, can we still make this fit? we just cut it down to two years versus ten years. we'll cut this one down to four years versus ten years or one year versus ten years. that's not being genuine as far as i'm concerned with my constituents in west virginia. >> so he says that's not genuine. he in the past has referred to those accounting gimmicks as shell games. the white house issuing a blistering statement today really ripping the band-aid off going after manchin, calling him out for changing his position abruptly for going back on his word to a framework he presented

to biden on tuesday. but the white house also holding out a glimmer of hope that this could still be alive with white house spokeswoman jen psaki saying just as senator manchin reversed his position on build back better this morning, we will continue to press to see if he will reverse his position yet again to honor his prior commitments and be true to his word. but we should also point out in that same statement, alex, the white house also brought up this issue about funding for certain years as opposed to ten years, said basically that they don't think that it's an unfunded mandate to go ahead and do that. so, so far, we are not seeing any sign from the white house that they are willing to do the one thing that joe biden has said could earn his support for this legislation, which is to fund things for ten years and keep the entire price tag low. >> yeah. can i just say in my wildest dreams i did not expect a quote analogy from "the princess bride" relative to this topic. but brought me a smile and was actually pretty perfect.

amen to that, thank you so much. stay where you are, though. we're going to continue this conversation about the growing outrage on capitol hill over senator manchin. let's go to nbc's julie tsirkin. try to pair down and give us the bullet points. >> just to pick up where josh left off in, between the rage from progressives and the praise from republicans, we're getting something interesting in the last couple of minutes here. a group of 90 moderate house lawmakers and the house dem, they released a statement actually saying while we voted unanimously to support build back better in the house, we want to see how we can get this done and maybe adopt an approach that picks a couple of programs rather than trying to get it all done. now, obviously senators and house members are not in this building. i suppose that's why senator manchin chose to make this statement today when he knows that they're not going to be back for a couple of weeks. but dick durbin told us that choosing these programs is like choosing your favorite child.

so this has always been hard for democrats to do. but if any kind of variety or version of it is going to happen, they're going to have to choose those few key programs. senator manchin, for example, always says he wants universal pre-k in the bill. those are one of the things that he liked in there. so that's a potential for the next couple of months. but, still, it's hard to imagine how this gets done. let's take a look at reaction from progressives who are super frustrated at manchin right now. >> i mean, we all knew that senator manchin couldn't be trusted. the excuses that he just made i think are complete bull [ bleep ]. it is really disheartening to hear him say that he has been trying to get there for the people of west virginia because that's a complete lie. >> i hope that we will bring a strong bill to the floor of the senate as soon as we can, and let mr. manchin explain to the

people of west virginia why he doesn't have the guts to stand up to powerful special interest. we've been dealing with mr. manchin for month after month after month. but if he doesn't have the courage to do the right thing for the working families of west virginia in america, let him vote no in front of the whole world. >> my lack and deficit of trust was about senator manchin. he has continued to move the goal post. he has never negotiated in good faith. and he is obstructing the president's agenda, 85% of which is still left on the table, and he is obstructing the people's agenda. all i want for christmas is a senator that has compassion for the american people and not contempt. >> and you hear those progressive lawmakers there pleading. they've plead with joe manchin for months. we've had activists come to his office here. they have gone to his house just a couple blocks away from the capitol. people have been really trying to bring him on board.

in texting with my sources, i don't think anything that progressives or even jen psaki are saying are going to move the needle. he's a no on this bill right now. >> well, he had to know the reverberations of saying no so definitively, like, i'm done. he had to know what was going to come his way. we bring into the conversation hayes brown. it was a bombshell for sure. but what was your reaction, and what do you expect the reaction was of the kind of surprise we're hearing from lawmakers across the country? were they really that surprised? wasn't he leading up to this the whole time? >> he absolutely was. and all the clips you've shown so far, they were all saying it for weeks, for months ahead of this decoupling by the bipartisan infrastructure bill, which manchin and other

moderates wanted past so they can say, look, we did something, and the build back better agenda. progressives wanted those together for a reason. and once they gave up that leverage, manchin has hit the brakes, he has pushed back, and now he's finally saying, no, i'm done. i agree that it's mostly dead, it can be revived. i do think that there is a world in which democrats do pick and choose, you got to pick your favorite child sometimes, no, you're the one who gets to go to camp, you have to stay home, and that's just the way it's going to be. and that is unfortunate and disappointing, given how much of what was packed into this bill, which had already been shrunk down considerably from the initial proposal from biden and the rest of the white house. it's already been shrunk down, and so many of these things are things that people are relying on. the fact that we don't know for sure, it seems like the child tax credit is going to be cut off, that are big refund that was in the pandemic package, the

democrats were trying to put back out there and have reextended, that's not going to be in place at the start of next year. so that's money in people's pockets that's not going to be there. they are holding off on climate, they are holding off on all the various things that people would make americans' lives easier. they're holding back on medicaid expansion, they're holding back on medicare expansion, which gives seniors access to dental and vision and hearing. and picking and choosing between those priorities is picking and choosing between the various groups that make up the big party that is the democrats. that is something that manchin seems to not care about, he cares about his state, and even then the fact is these things would benefit the people of west virginia extraordinarily. >> that is what is so confounding, hayes. by not voting for this in the short term, paid family leave, you mean no west virginians have a mother who maybe works and has to stay home with a baby, and the father is working or maybe

doesn't have a job? i mean, it is mind-numbing to think that west virginians are not going to benefit from this? >> absolutely. and the fact that he has already done so much to try and frame the benefits and the changes to the law that are going to be in this bill, the fact that he's been insisting on work requirements for the child tax care credit. it's been thing after thing with manchin. now we're finally here. what's really frustrating about this is the fact that even if there were no filibusters, the democrats just need 50, and he is the last holdout. >> yeah. back to josh lederman covering the white house. and i'm going to ask our director rob to put up the comment by press secretary jen psaki. is there a next step for the white house? didn't we expect, despite people being on break, didn't we expect that joe biden and joe manchin would be having some sort of

conversations whether in person or over the phone or facetime or whatever it would be during this holiday break to try to move this forward? what's happened to those? >> right. white house officials had told us that the white house and president biden would remain working throughout this week all the way up to christmas with senator manchin. now i think that there is going to be probably a bit of a pause. i mean, this is a very different tone from a white house that has really tried to be deferential to joe manchin, not to question him or criticize him. at the end of the day they need his vote if they're going to get this bill passed, as we know, and yet here you have this really caustic statement basically accusing him of lying to them and of, you know, going back on his word. and so it doesn't seem to be the kind of tone that is really conducive to relaunching negotiations when they are saying that he wasn't even dealing with them in good faith

in the past. >> yeah. talk about good faith negotiations on capitol hill, julie. what is the likelihood of any of that happening a couple of weeks from now, three weeks or so, whatever it is, when congress comes back into session? >> well, alex, this is an interesting balance act that democrats have to do to move forward here. what's interesting are the tweets and reactions that i'm seeing now. they're different from the initial rage that came from progressives. it was the staff from manchin's office that made this call 25 to 30 minutes before he delivered this blow on fox news this morning. and senator tina smith just tweeted, we have to face the reality. democrats still need manchin's vote. again, it's 50 votes that we need to pass this through with the filibuster proof majority here in the senate. and they need his vote to get on this bill, whatever it looks like, whether it's even smaller now, some sources told me

earlier in the week, maybe it could be $1.2 trillion. so definitely not the $3.5 trillion build back better legislation that biden and democratic leaders originally hoped for. but perhaps picking some pieces from this could be realistic in the next few months. now that this initial shock has perhaps started to fade away, they need to figure out how to balance with manchin without pushing him away all together. >> when you were describing that call, i'm thinking to myself, hey, yeah, just giving you a heads up, we're going to tank this thing for you. it's absolutely stunning the white house reaction must've been, like, what? anyway. so, hayes, last question to you. how does this get resurrected? how do you see the approach? because there's not going to be a lot of good will right now. how do you get these conversations going again? what's your thought on that? >> that's a really tough one like julie and josh have been

saying. this has been caustic this reaction to manchin. we all knew what was probably coming, but have it actually here was definitely not a great feeling. i think that this does come back with -- i mean, the fact, though, that i'm not sure, manchin has repeatedly put up what he has called frameworks for things he would support. and democratic leadership and the house, they've all worked together to try and make the bill as close to the things manchin's proposed as possible. like, for example, he issued this thing to schumer over the summer saying, well, i can't support this bill if it's this big and includes these climate things. and now the democrats have tried to do those things in that memo and he still has said no. maybe the white house put something forward to manchin directly, but i don't know what that would look like and how you would get support of enough democrats at this point in the house and the senate to support it. >> yeah, well, once it starts

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now to some breaking news concerning the coronavirus pandemic. the omicron variant is spreading across the u.s. at an alarming rate. it is now being reported in nearly all 50 states. this comes as many americans are of course planning to travel and gather with their families over the holidays. globally, the variant has been found most now in 89 countries. cases are doubling fast says the world health organization. this morning dr. anthony fauci

spoke with chuck todd about the omicron spread. >> this is extraordinary capability of spreading its transmissibility capability. it is just raging through the world really. and if you look even here in the united states, you have some regions that start off with a few percent of the isolates that are positive going up to 30 and 40 and in some places 50%. >> joining us now -- i welcome you both. gary, you first here. we have some breaking news that the nba, even though you're outside an nfl stadium there, the nba has just postponed five upcoming games due to health and safety protocols. have you heard anything about that in addition to the, what, three nfl games that have been postponed? >> reporter: hey there, alex. yeah, game postponements and positive player notifications have been rolling in all

afternoon. the nba announcing five games over the next three days have been postponed. it's not just one part of the country. these are teams from atlanta to brooklyn to cleveland to here in d.c. so that's happening in the nba. and in the nfl three games that were scheduled for today have been postponed to later this week after more than a hundred nfl players tested positive for covid this week alone. it's particularly impacting the washington football team with 22 players including their star quarterback out for this week. so that's a real impact there. and it's not just that these players are unvaccinated, the nfl actually has a 95% vaccination rate. they are putting in a number of new protocols starting this week including masking in all team facilities making to-go more of an available option in team cafeterias and making all meetings virtual. we spoke to the chief medical

officer of the nfl about the outbreak. here's what he had to say. >> let's make no mistake. we do not want to put people who have covid infection on the field if we can avoid it at all possible. so, in each situation we have to look at the factors that are driving transmission. we have to project when we think the teams will be safe. we also have to give those teams an opportunity to prepare their bodies. >> reporter: now, the nfl and the nfl players association say they are engaging with medical experts and they're going to come out with a new group and a new list of protocols starting for next week's games. alex? >> gary, thank you so much. in the last hour you also reported that 100% of nfl officials and leadership are already vaccinated. so the nfl with that and the 95% of the athletes themselves, i mean, it's doing pretty well. yet you have over a hundred nfl players out right now with covid. it's absolutely remarkable. we go now to dr. nahid bhadelia.

when you look at those stats, just the nfl ones alone, let alone adding the five nba games this week being postponed, 95% of players are vaccinated, 100% of nfl officials are vaccinated. how is this still happening? how are these breakthrough cases happening? we'll get to europe in just a moment. >> yeah, alex. i think we have to start separating the immunity against infections compared to immunity against severe disease and death. and what we found is that with this new ons omicron variant, because people are getting breakthrough infections, it is so transmissible. so you are much more likely to pick it up for someone whom you are sharing a room with. but it does reduce the amount of antibody effectiveness if you've built these antibodies from vaccines and boosters, some of that might be overcome by omicron. so you can see these breakthrough infections. however, that's different than what we're seeing from outcomes from hospitalizations and deaths in people who are boosted.

there's very high protection against severe disease. the problem here is that what we're saying to people who are boosted, if you're vaccinated, get boosted, if you're boosted you have great protection. what we're saying is that you are getting these breakthrough infections and the reason you want to avoid that is you don't want to get infected but you also don't want to pass it on to others in the community who may be vulnerable because we still have a huge chunk of people who are still unvaccinated or older and may have waning immunity having not received their boosters yet. >> how do you explain the hesitancy on getting boosters? is it an issue of people not getting access to the boosters? a lot of people have said it's been hard to try to schedule them and find them booster availability. >> yeah, alex, it's been multifactorial, as we've seen throughout this whole pandemic in, terms of what the hurdles are. in some areas i think what you're seeing is the lack of ability to just access these boosters. who's getting boosted are people

who are more affluent or they can travel and get access to vaccine sites that have these boosters available. but you're also seeing some confusion about who is actually -- we had that initial conversation back and forth, and i think we have to as public health officials, currently cdc's recommendation is everybody over the age of 18 should get a booster. so hopefully that continues the reinforcement, the fact that we all qualify for a booster and it's important during this omicron wave to protect us both from infection and severe disease. i think that has to be part of what needs to be stressed i think moving out. >> i mentioned overseas europe, in fact. so far seven people have died from the omicron variant. all of them in the united kingdom. what does this suggest about what's to come here in the u.s. since it has typically been what happens over in great britain has seemed to jump the pond a couple, three weeks later?

>> right. their numbers are slowly ticking up in terms of deaths. that's the concern. because severity of disease from a new variant, it's very difficult to figure out because it's not just a function of the variant itself. but as we've talked about, alex, it's a function of the demographics, how many people have gotten vaccinated at prior inspections. and what we're getting is just mixed data currently about how severe this is or isn't. i think what we can say with confidence is that it's probably not more severe than delta, and there is data that shows it could be less severe or slightly less severe than delta. but it is so transmissible. it doesn't matter if it is less severe because it does a good job of finding people who are vulnerable. and to your booster point, only half of those over 65 in the u.s. have gotten boosted. and that's a vulnerability that we're walking into omicron with. >> in terms of timing, the ease of transmission, cdc director

dr. rochelle walensky said that early data suggests that omicron is more transmissible with a doubling time of about two days. compare that to delta. two days seems awfully fast. >> it does. i think the easiest way to explain it is what it does with person-to-person interaction. there's a brief from last weekend that basically shows that the odds of getting infection from somebody who is omicron is three times that of the odds of getting delta. there is so much concentration. that might be one of the hints for why it's so transmissible. you're chances of coming across somebody who's infected also increases. and that's why you're seeing just this pandemic, you know, increasing cases that's just so rapid that you're seeing in new york city and many of the metropolitan areas. >> i know you will echo these sentiments, get boosted, socially distance as best you can, and keep your masks even as

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within just this last hour, outgoing new york city mayor bill de blasio and the incoming mayor addressed the rising covid cases here in the biggest city in the nation. >> we expect omicron to be a fast and temporary phenomenon. we expect these next weeks to see very, very big surge in the number of cases, more than we've seen previously. and then we expect after a period of time that it will dissipate. >> this is yet another pivotal moment for us, the personal decisions we make over the next two weeks could determine the

success of our city over the next two years. so the mayor and i are here today to tell you that we do everything needed to bring our city back from this crisis. >> and new york city mayor-elect eric adams is joining me right now. i was about to call you mr. mayor. i realize i believe there's 13 days unless that becomes official, sir. but welcome and congratulations on the election. let's talk about the two of you emphasizing today that you are coordinating on the covid response. however, despite mayor de blasio calling the shots right now, january 1st, it's your job to do it. you're going to be walking right into a crisis, it appears. what's the first thing you intend to do to fight this pandemic? >> well, first, i went through the crisis of 9/11 when terrorists attacked our city, and covid is not terrorism, but it's terror. and we need a steady hand at the helm. and that's what i'm going to

bring. and the first thing we're going to do is to ensure that all of our agencies are coordinating to make sure that we encourage vaccination, testing, and use mobile and stationary facilities to accomplish that. we're going to really partner with our business community and figure out the right coordination to keep our city up and operating, at the same time, make sure we have safe spaces. and we're ready to do this. new york is used to overcoming crises, and we're going to do it again. >> mr. mayor-elect, you just used the word encourage there, but mayor de blasio said just a few minutes ago that a vaccine mandate is more important than ever and that by december 27th he plans to mandate that all private employers require their staff to be vaccinated, people over the age of 12 will also need two vaccinations to dine indoors, for example. that's going to happen just days before you take office. so given this omicron crisis, do

you think you will support a continuation of a mandate? how will you defend them if they are met with legal challenges? >> well, this is a moving target. and i keep sharing that over and over again. we don't know where we're going to be in two weeks. we don't know if we are going to have overcrowding in our hospitals. we don't know how the new variant is going to continue to evolve or if we are going to be dealing with another variant. the goal is not to be so stringent that we can't shift, adjust, and pivot to make sure new york is safe. i met with my business leaders last week, over 70 leaders, to talk about how do we stabilize our small economies and not hurt small business in the process. we are going to re-evaluate what the mayor is attempting to do with mandates in all offices and businesses, and i'll make a determination on january 1st.

>> stabilizing the economy, i want to pick up on that, sir, because i can tell you that anecdotally i've had a lot of people, business owners, car drivers and the like who have been concerned about returning to march 2020 and those couple of months that followed which were so difficult financially, emotionally, on so many families and individuals. new york state, as you know, reported the highest number of cases since the pandemic began, breaking its single-day record for positive cases. that happened not one but two days in a row. yes, the current mayor said that he doesn't envision a scenario, but we're going to be reliving march 2020. it was a virtual ghost town at that time. but is there any point where you feel you might be forced to consider shutting everything down again? is that an option if it comes to that for people's physical health? >> it is going to take a lot for me to shut down our city again. and i want to be clear on that. listen, covid is becoming part

of our normality. and do we shut down every time we have a new variant? we have to get ready to live with not only this pandemic and probably other pandemics. it will take a lot for me to close down this city because this city has to operate, too many people are depending on our city to function, and i'm encouraging people to get vaccinated and take their booster shots. even when you look at the increase in numbers, you don't even an increase in hospitalization for those who have taken the booster shot and vaccination, the increase in hospitalization in serious cases are due to those who are not vaccinated. 2 million people can get their booster shot. i'm going to encourage that. this is how we defeat covid, booster, vaccination, and not fear. >> absolutely. and i 100% agree with you. but as we look at new year's eve, we were showing video of times square.

you know what happens there. you're going to have hundreds of thousands if not a million ballpark people there all of whom are supposed to be vaccinated people. it's like getting into a theater or showing your i.d. to get into a restaurant lately. you're supposed to show that i.d. and get there. but that's in less than two weeks now. boosters may not be taking effect at that point. is there any concern about having to shut down new year's eve? what about your inauguration, the celebrations that will happen the day after? i know that's supposed to be indoors. any chance you're going to be rescheduling or replanning that? not that you won't take offer. you've got the job, you've got a lot to do starting january 1st. >> well, let's peel it back in layers because you asked several things. >> i tend to do that. you're just going to have to get used to that. anyway. >> it's all good. first, january 1st. i believe if we have individuals who are vaccinated, clearly the evidence is clear, it really

holds back serious infections. you see many people who are infected, their symptoms are minor colds and flu. when i spoke to a public advocate the other day, he said, eric, i just feel soreness in my throat, but it's not the same severity of physical aspects that we saw with the first round of covid. so vaccines are crucial. so we have those who are vaccinated. i think we should keep on with our new year's eve celebration because it's going to send the right message that we have this under control and that we're going to continue to do what's right to keep us safe. we are not going to do anything that is going to cause harm to new yorkers. if the healthcare professionals make the determination we should not have it, we don't have to do it. if we happen to have inauguration or not, i'm going to be the mayor and the city is going to be in a good place.

>> let me ask you, sir, about another issue at the top of mind for many new yorkers, and that is crime. murder rates, yes, they are down by 17%. however, robberies, felony assaults, that's all risen since the same time last year. the perception is that the streets are more dangerous now. so what is going to be your approach to stopping crime? >> you said something very important. you said the perception, because perception is reality. you can't tell people they are safe if they feel unsafe. crime is not only actual, but it's perceived. so we are going to, number one, zero in on subways in our transportation system. we're putting police officers back into the system, they are going to ride the subway trains, inspect platforms. they are not going to be congregating at the token booth. i need them at the system. we are going to reinstitute a

plain-clothes anti-gun unit. we are going to go after those gang members and guns. every time you hear of a shooting, 90% of the time you hear it's gang-related. we are going to take down those gangs. and then we are going to deal with quality of life issues. you can't have a city where people walk into grocery stores or department stores and take things off the shelves and walk out and no one is taking action. that is not the city we are going to live in. we're going to stop the open drug use in our parks and communities. we are going to send the right message that this is not a city out of control, but this is a city where the overwhelming number of citizens deserve to live in a safe, clean environment. that's the message i'm going to send and carry out. >> i'm just exhausted thinking of the litany of things you have ahead of you. so i'll take one more question in terms of your time. you've appointed keechant sewell to oversee the new york city police department, the nypd. she is the first woman to hold that position here in new york.

what will she bring to the table that reflects your philosophy in policing? >> it's a term i use all the time. emotional intelligence. we look too often at academics. we look at job description, we look at what schools people attended. there are some things that is not on your resume. and that's emotional intelligence. that is the precursor, the prerequisite for anyone that's employed by the eric adams administration. and she has it. she understands people, she knows how to communicate, she has the police experience, she started up several units in her agency in nassau, and she is ready to lead. i am so excited about having her on the team, and she is going to do an amazing job. she broke down the glass ceilings that people believed women cannot have large police departments, they are wrong. the number of women and young

girls who stated they watched that announcement with tears running down their face, it sent the message. too many women and people of color have been sitting on the bench not being able to get in the game. and i'm going to get them in the game and we're going to win some real victories for our city. >> good for you, and i love that phrase emotional intelligence. well done mayor-elect eric adams. get some rest, sir, because you're going to be running as of january 1st. thank you so much. so the impact of joe manchin's build back better decision on west virginia, a resident of that state is going to speak with me next. also later today reverend al sharpton with two editions of "politics nation." it's the most joyous time of year. especially at t-mobile! let's go to dianne. i got the awesome new iphone 13 pro and airpods,

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tonight on msnbc, a new special shedding light on an incredibly important topic that we don't often talk about here in fertility. stories we tell "the fertility secret" follows five women of color on their journeys to having a baby as they reflect on the psychological and physical pain of infertility. >> i remembered the doctor not responding how i thought a doctor would. the doctor definitely belittled the pain. oh, just make sure she starts taking tylenol a few days before the period. you start with the regular-strength tylenol. i've definitely gone up from the 200 to now 800 milligrams that i use a couple of times a day. after 30-some years, it takes a toll. for someone to just dismiss you and say, yeah, i hear you're in

pain but just do this, you start to think, well, i guess this is a me problem. >> joining me now is the executive producer of "stories we tell," she is co-host of "nbc today." listening to that woman, nobody should be on extra strength tylenol. the amount of years that she was on, i mean, when you heard that, how shocking was that for you? >> for decades, this young woman you'll see tonight in the documentary, she passed out in the hallway at school when she was 11 or 12 years old. and that's when the nightmare began. she's almost 40 now. and for years i have listened to story after story from women who were close to me in my life, and i've watched them -- the reason why i call it "the fertility secret" is because i watched them carry this secret for years. they're going to work and

they're going to school and they're going to their jobs and church and the gym. all the while they're carrying this secret. and i just feel like enough is enough. and if a woman is hurting we should wrap our arms around her and support her. it's time to talk about it. enough is enough. >> yeah. i mean, i know you're a mom. so when you heard about this, comparing and contrasting the joy of motherhood, i'm a mom too. it is the most important thing in the world to me. i'm sure it is to you as well. so when you hear these women and those things that they are missing, what jumped out at you? what stuck with you through this whole process of making this documentary? >> that's such a good question. you know what it is? i kind of felt like i wanted to do this documentary. but for me it's more than just having a baby or this end result. it's about the conversations leading to that point and the journey for so many women around this country and meant to get to this point. and at the end of the day if you decide you want to adopt or maybe kids aren't right for you, that's fine. but for so long there have been all these veils around

femininity and fertility. and i feel like enough is enough. if a woman has a miscarriage, for example, she has it, it happens, she may take a personal day maybe and then she goes back to work the next day. if a person loses a relative or a pet they tell everybody at work, a woman loses a relative or pet, and you get a card and you get a week off, and it's so true, but when you lose a child, it feels like you can't talk about it. our plan is to tackle all of it tonight. >> i know you are going to, being the kind of journalist that you are. but do you want this to become a common comfortable part of a conversation between women and friends? >> it's as if you are reading my heart, because my prayer is that we create the ground swell and move the needle. we are powerful. it almost sounds cheesy to say if we put our voices together,

we can change the world, and you think about the me too movement, and women come together and they say enough is enough, and i think it's time to change the narrative and how we view srur fertility, and moms should talk to their daughters, you know, i had a miscarriage, or i have fibroids. i many hoping that we can move the needle on this and create a ground swell where women don't have to feel isolated or alone, and also that women feel seen and affirmed. all of these women said they felt invisible at times and their pain was not taken seriously. enough is enough. >> 100%. well done on all this. we will have a conversation about this tonight, sheinelle

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senator manchin's constituents, and gary is a member of the advocacy group, work money. i am curious about your reaction, first of all. when the senator says he can't explain being able to vote for this legislation, what does he have to do to explain to you why he does not? how do you feel about this? >> i just want him to explain why he doesn't support this. it's supposed to be helping the families of west virginia, and help with the economy and to make jobs, and so people can make a good living in west virginia, and i can't believe he doesn't support this. >> gary, i want to reiterate. you are a conservative, is that true? that's what i was told. >> yes, i am. >> so what are the things that you think are most needed there by you, your family, by other

west virginians that will not happen now because senator manchin would vote no were this legislation be put before the senate? >> i just think financial support for my family and other families in west virginia that need this, to support your families, you know? the cost of living is so high in west virginia now that you can't afford to buy anything. his support -- his support for this would help a lot of people that are struggling right now because of covid. >> so gary, what is the senator not hearing from his conservative constituents like you? >> i think it's all, you know, just what he wants to hear from other people that, you know, that is putting money in his pockets and not the people that actually work for west virginia that are struggling out here. you know, i want him to support

us, you know, to help us, you know, to financially take care of things because we are struggling in west virginia. >> are you insinuating that by joe manchin not voting for this, he is not supporting the people of west virginia? gary, i remind you that the reason he is not voting for this, he believes the program should be a ten-year program and not a one-year or two-year, and he said the financing for all this is not there yet. what would you support, fewer entities within a bill like this that could be funded for ten years, or would you support let's get this going and see what happens after one or three years respectively? >> i would say let's get this started and see what happens in one to three years, and see whether or not, you know, we can financially do this. but there's a lot -- people are

there struggling that need this right now. >> you are a self described conservative. can you tell me who you voted for in the last election? >> i voted for donald trump. i support him in every issue possible. >> gary walton, i want to thank you -- i know times are tough particularly ahead of the holiday season, and i am sorry for that for you, but i appreciate your candor and honesty in talking about what has been a huge news story and reaction across the country today. that will do it for me today, and happy christmas to all of you who are celebrating, and in the meantime my friend, yasmin sz, will be in this chair covering in just a moment.

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