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. the uk today breaking the daily covid record there and also reporting some potentially positive news. initial data showing omicron symptoms to be less severe than delta. and israel is rolling out a second booster shot. there is no end in sight to the pandemic. and former donald trump national security advisor michael flynn is suing the jan 6th committee to block or delay the subpoena for his documents. first, the latest on how covid is impacting holiday travel. tom costello at dc airport here in washington.
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>> listen, this is now crunch time. this is among the bustbusiest d. on the roads about 100 million people or so clogging interstates. so from the 101 out west to the 95 in the east, a hot more traffic. the avenuuation story today a couple headlines. first delta airlines, they are calling for the cdc to reduty the mamt of time that you should isolate if you're vaccinated and boosted and still test positive. delta is ---ed they are saying they are concerned, the staffing shortages and the impact on passengers, maybe they will stay away from flying. another headline is on the 5g
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rollout. the two biggest playmakers in the world calling for a post stponement. they are calling for a rollout of that 5g technology. it has rolled out in 40 countries with very good access and no impact on aviation. we'll see how that plays out in the coming days and weeks. >> israel is making a major shift today in their vaccination plan offering the 4th dose of the covid vaccine. this could be booster number two available to those other 60, health care workers, and the immunocompromised. one expert saying it was not an
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easy decision, but they're trying to stay ahead of omicron. >> yeah, andrea that is right. there is still so much we don't know. policymakers and experts are having to make these decisions, and i spoke to one person that said there was not one smoking gun or piece of evidence to recommend a fourth dose. omicron is growing in srael as is it is in the u.s. and they are starting to see some evidence that the third booster dose does wane in it's effectiveness over time. i want you to take a listen at what heed that to say about that. >> yes, we are seeing an increase in the number of people being infected as more and more
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are receiving the booster. there is a waning effect of the booster. >> now that fourth dose still needs to be given final approval by israeli health officials, and that is expected to come as soon as next week. they are telling the public here get ready to take that shot as soon as you're eligible. >> thank you. joining us now dr. john torres. and a msnbc medical contributor. dr. patel, what do you make of the rollout of a second booster? is that something we consider --? yeah, it is definitely something they think scientists have eluded to here. but we have not seen the data that accumulated. what it does tell me is something that i think we're coming to understand that this current booster dose that we're all talking about is really the
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third dose in many the series that they need. >> and in colorado where you are, is the president behind the curve on testing or is testing available? what do you find in your part of the country? >> what is happening here in colorado is what the president is talking about starting in january with the federal government. the colorado department of public health has been doing that. i ordered the tests and i got them in a three-daytime. i get a link, you go back online. they have some agreemented you need to check off. if you test positive they want you to know. and then go from there, but this is a good template i think the government could use.
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so far in colorado they ordered two million tests. they gave out 1.7, and they're saying 95,000 tests a week go out to the public. if you don't have access you can call a phone number. they expect it to continuing to work. but at the same type it is something that the federal government could hook at again get some ideas on how to do it. >> what do you see in the hospitals where you are and the clinics where you practice in terms of the surge in cases and the level of the symptoms and the severity? >> yeah, two hopeful points. number one you mentioned the symptoms that people are presenting with are different and less severe. we're seeing more classic upper respiratory systems. it's not the loss of smell or taste, it's more like a common cold. our e.r.s and clinics are full of people understanding do we
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have covid? do they have the flu? or a common cold. here is my fear i think if you're vaccinated and you don't have chronic conditions, you're relatively safe, but we're all, including myself, we could be affecting people who do not have fuel immune systems. they're sick, they're scared, and they need attention and we cannot afford to have this happen in exponential growth in the next several weeks. my urge to americans is just think about what you're doing. you can't test out of covid. you don't test out of covid, but if you're doing something and you think quite about it, if your get tells you this is not the right thing too do, if it's too crowded, just stop. you don't want to be a chain in transmission. i believe in vaccines, but there are too many people that we
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should not take this chance. >> i want to talk to you about the antibody treatments. i'm hearing this is a problem in the hospitals here. in short supply in new york city. >> short supply in fact we had advisories in area hospitals and health systems to not use the monocolonals. they are not working or they're not available in supply. so we're telling people don't call me if you're positive. here is what we need to do to keep you out of the emergency room. here is what you need to do if you need to go to the emergency room, but we're running thin on what we can offer people in ers, clinics, and hospitals. all of the more reason to be
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careful. this christmas is more hopeful, but we will dictate what january looks like. >> in terms of the severity of omicron, how much should we trust this new data out of the uk. >> that is a great question. you need to approach it with caution. we're getting information that the symptoms seem less severe. they seem to be different, like dr. patel was talking about. upper respiratory type symptoms. just because they're not as severe doesn't mean that people will not have severe symptoms. if we have enough cases, people will overwhelm the hospitals. and in south africa the cases are dropped much more rapidly than they thought they would. we still need to appreciate ourselves and that means getting vaccinated, getting the booster,
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social distancing and the things we know work. >> and when you compare populations in israel and the u.k., i think it is a much higher vaccination rate. >> exactly. that is exactly true. they are better protected and the cases and the vaccination rates are high. >> before i let you go, i want to ask about the pills that merck and the pfizer pills that could be approved very quickly. >> these pills will be another tool in the tool box. we heard they work, one works better than the other. these could certainly help people in the out patient categories. those tested or diagnosed, taking them at home, keeping
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them out of the hospital. that's the hope. not a substitute for vaccinations, but something else we can use to keep them safe. >> wishing both of you a very happy holiday. thank you for being with us today. >> happy holidays. >> and if holiday travel was not already stressful another, here is another violent incident involving air travel last night. police said an unruly passenger took at keys to an aircraft golf cart and would not let the employee leaf. an officer had the man in a choke hold, he was then grabbed and pushed by the crowd. he drew his weapon at one point and he is radioing for help. quite the situation. police say two people were take into custody and circumstances around the officer drawing his weapon are also being
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as the new omicron variant continues to surge we're getting a first look at how the del that variant slowed the economy last summer. the economy grew up 3 nt 5%. this comes as they got an update to ease supply chain bottlenecks that lead to supplies the council of economic advisors and now professor at harvard and
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brendan buck who was former an advisor for john boehner. the president says mission accomplished, saying the shelves are 90% full. that is anecdotal, probably spotty, and larger manufacturing goods that are harder to get. so there is still a supply chain problem, but perhaps a little easier than some feared. >> this is president biden focusing on a bright spot of the week acknowledging that there are way bigger problems to tackle, and saying it is not just limited to consumer goods that are arriving on time, delivered, shelves that were maybe not stocked are now maybe have been. that is something the white house felt they took action on.
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and politically they want to make it clear they felt that when this would be a probable probably want to take a problem. they want to talk about the fact that most americans are still feeling a pinch. and so the president did say that he wants to, of course, continue to work on that. that the job there is not finished. take a listen. >> we will expand productivity, encourage more investments in innovation, and make sure american consumers see those benefits at the store and at the pump when they go to fill up their cars. >> so when will people feel the
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impact of those? >> people are buying more than they normally buy. and a lot of the problems is not that it is not increasing as much as we like. we will see prices come down, but spending on goods remains very high, and i expect to continue to see price increases in that sector, potentially even more. >> the president says he is done dealing with that. politically he is still feeling, i guess, the impact of that as well as covid, covid, covid. that seems to be what is really the anchor that is pulling his numbers down. >> the mood of the country is pretty sour.
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you can talk about all of the economic data points that you want, but if they paychecks are not going further they will be in a crumby mood. this is a white house sprat for a win. try going to buy a car right now. good luck. covid is piling on top of this. gallup just did a pole on economic confidence. they said it is as low as it was at the start of the pandemic. people are just tired of it and they're tuning him out. when people are tuning you out it is hard to get them back. i think the biggest political problem is the country is just showtime and obviously things
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are not back to normal yet. that is why they're putting traffic forces in place, and that's why they have people who are trying to do everything they can. the president said they will do everything they can and if i could just mention a little breaking news that i'm getting into my phone, we did just learn that president biden got a negative result from his pcr test that he took earlier today after having exposure to a mid level staffer on friday. he has now tested positive three times in the last three days. so i wanted to make everyone aware of that. >> thank you so much. that is so reassuring. we are sho grad that he is
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negative, and i know that others said that you expect there might be especially after that trip on air force one. we have seen shows close temporarily. the nhl postponing their season. all of this is affecting restaurants earnly here and near by businesses into what could the variant mean for economic growth in the final months of 2021? >> it heightens uncertainty about what will happen in the economy. but i don't really think is a repeat of march and april. we're not going to grow as quickly as we would have otherwise, it's possible we'll see another negative jobs
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number, but i expect that the economy will continue it's recovery and the unemployment rate three months from now will be lower than where it is today, and that's because a lot of people will temporarily make adjustments but don't want to make the types of dramatic changes. and they don't need to make those changes. >> the dc mayor announced they will tighten their rules. and she reinstituted the mask mandate in dc a couple days ago. >> this is a mixed message for the president, but the economy is strong as they told us
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earlier. and so you a strong economy growing with the president could get his harms around covid. that would inkraens the chances of the democrats holding on to leadership you think? >> yeah, certainly. >> yeah, the biggest risk is that the mood is test. there is a point where people make up their minds on the direction they're going, but the white house needs it to reseed, and we can recapture some of that euphoria. but this is a cliche washington ex-presentation, and there is so many things they hope they can do to affect those things. and what they have focused on in
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congress, whether or not it is the build back better aspect, i think what the white house needs to do is focus and demonstrate that they mean what they say when they say it is a kriemt change and they need to hope that things work out in the next few months. >> thank you to all of you, a massive development in the fight against the pandemic. the fda granted emergency use authorization. the pill is meant to be known for the treatment of mild to moderate symptoms. that is good news on the covid frontt.
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we have breaking news from the white house. the president just announced he is extending the pause on the reapartment on federal student loans. it was supposed to expire january 31st. >> when the president first came into office, they determined they would extend that again as delta was surging. and now the president is saying an additional 90 days goes into effect for this pause. this punts it all of the way to may 1st, 2022. the administration had been under pressure given what we're seeing with the economy and it
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achkts millions of americans that really wanted breathing room that were continuing to figure out what they may keep doing overall and it is something that the president of education is reviewing to see if they make changes. there is many democratic lawmakers that they're asking to have forgiven. so it gives the president, the white house, and the department of education more time to figure all of that out. and they have more time to figure out what that means. >> thank you, monica, now we will let you go. and key new details as they
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cramble to salvage the build back better program. and certainly listening senate leader chuck shumer will keep working until they pass the political. nbc's senior national report sere here with the latest. also the former congressman david jolly. it is the first time that senator schumer committed to a change in voting rights and he says he wants to get it done in january. how realistic is that? >> it will be very difficult for the senate to make a change because that of course takes 50 votes through the nuclear option. democrats at this point have a path to getting 48 member that's
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are either onboard or they signalled an openness to do that. they worry about radical reversals and federal policy if the phil buster has changed. the state of affairs has changed here. they have a path to pass congress. they have a majority but not a way around the phil buster. so for the first time every they holding a vote on whether or not they will change the rules that may suceed and they may fail. it is a bold move for the leader to put everyone on the spot like this. >> shum sere openly talking
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about changing the phil buster rules, how likely is that to happen? >> that's right, i think that was laid out and with the news that we had in the past week, since manchin did not have plans for the current build back better as it stands, it this is looking really terrible for democrats. so for the fact that this is brought up at this time is a big deal as we have been hearing for months. battles over whether or not to take this up, and the changes for the voting rights and the reform bills. how can they take a stronghold here at a time when their taking a lot of losses. it seems like an attempt in
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their view to say they can make something happen if there is continuous holdouts. >> and david, let's talk about joe manchin when he has talked about this, and that certainly got the attention of mitch mcconnell. take a look at this. >> so he is just like a man alone. if they were to join us, they would join a lot of folks with similar views on a range of issues. >> now he said he is not planning to witch parties, and he held out on reregistering as an independent, do you think there is a chance he could switch? >> i do, but because of the current numbers, he kuld be
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majority leader the next day. listen, i think if you follow his behavior, and i know democrats think his word is no good, but i don't think he would switch parties. but he will be in psych until 2024 and as a democrat in west virginia, he could go into that probably the underdog. he probably won in 2018 in a race that was good for democrats, but it would like i will be hard for a democrat joemanwhen to hang on. and i'm looking for december of 2022 to see if they make a move. is he an independent or does he switch parties? >> yeah, we have seen this before david, i also want to ask
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you about a report in the times that senator john thune, the likely successor is weighing reenvironment. that would not impact the party structure, but -- >> yeah, it is andrea, it is intriguing because he has been in the wings being groomed to be leader of the republican caucus and it strikes me how we saw paul ryan leave as speaker. he rightly predicted he would no longer be speaker. nanny this case they might have hershall walker and dr. oz, it may not be a caucus that hoe
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wants to lead. >> thank you very much to all of you. back in court, michael flynn is suing the january 6th committee. where is this legal fight going next pete williams will join us, next. xt pete wlilliams will jois next do i need to pretreat my laundry? nope! with tide pods, you don't need to worry. the pre-treaters are built in. tide pods dissolve even when the water is freezing. nice! if it's got to be clean, it's got to be tide.
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investigating january 6th is faces more subpoena issues. this time for forder advisor michael flynn. he filed a lawsuit saying it violates his constitutional rights. flynn's lawsuit comes just as congressman scott perry says he will not meet with the panel. joining us now is pete williams and sahil kapur. do you consider this a serious issue or a delay tactic? >> this is an attempt to delay this until after the midterms. they say it is too broad, it covers his political views and manners that could touch on a separate investigation.
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but it is a stall. it's not clear that he could do this for a couple reasons. first he says the committee has no authority to issue these subpoenas because the house did not follow the rules in setting it up, but the courts don't take up preenforcement challenges like this. a witness usually as to wait until the committee takes some legal action. second there is no legislative perks. so i think he might have more luck getting it far rowed down. it might be part of the law.
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are they working on the committee? >> they thises is a fully frivolous lawsuit. the valid legislative purpose question has been recognized by the justice department, by the courts, and one source said the house created these in the past, an they did not really have doubts about the legitimacy to investigate or hand out subpoenas. but pete's point about delaying it is very significant. it is the effective deadline to finish up their report given the likelihood if recent polls are to be believed. that is extremely likely that they will continue this investigation under a republican
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controlled out. >> pete, i know you have been tracking these cases so closely. how is oklahomaland security and officials here preparing for the anniversary? we know there will be commemorations on the hill, are they expected any difficulties? >> i think they will be paying more attention to the social media chatter not as well regarded before last year's january 6th riot. probably more security around the capital, but i think there is not much interest in coming back. they view it as just a trap and there isn't the same kind of enthusiasm about it. >> and we know former president trump said that he will be giving a speech on that day, that is kind of remarkable politically. nancy pelosi said they're not going to be in session, but they
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do commemorations. they will not be having floor sessions or hearings. to be continued. thanks to both of you for holiday duty, preholiday week duty and giving back. how one group of volunteers helped their neighbors at the height of the pandemic and what they're doing now. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. and long-lasting gain scent beads. try spring daydream, now part of our irresistible scent collection. ♪ limu emu... & doug ♪ ♪ superpowers from a spider bite? i could use some help showing the world how liberty mutual customizes their car insurance so they only pay for what they need. (gasps) ♪ did it work? only pay for what you need ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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with the holidays fast approaching, we wanted to check back in with a remarkable volunteer group that we first met at the height of the pandemic last year. when new york city was in the grips of covid for the first time leon launched a delivery service for people who couldn't leave their homes to get groceries and other essential items. invincible hands has took off and expanded the areas it serves and its mission is now bringing free food to those who cannot afford it. joining me now is the co-founder of invisible hands liam elkin. congratulations with all you've done. you're working with food pantries and other organizations to help people who need food.
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tell us about the shift in your folks and how you expanded. >> thank you so much for having me on, andrea. yeah, so we've been getting calls from people who were saying, can you deliver to me from a grocery store i'm stuck at home and saying can you please deliver me from somewhere i can't afford my own food. three quarters of people who can make use of a food pantry can't even go. we partner with food pantries and religious institutions and places that have food or funding and struggle to reach people and we provide our people power and deliver directly to those who need it most. >> what areas of the country are you now serving? >> absolutely. so, our main focus is still in new york city, but we've expanded our reach into philadelphia, atlanta, we're hoping to continue to scale and grow our services because food insecurity is not a local issue, it's a global one.
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we want to be able to continue addressing this using the power of volunteers providing anonymous delivery service to people we're trying to prioritize their safety, dignity and valuable time. >> how do you find the volunteers and recruit people? >> this is a big part of it and thank you for having us on the show. traditional media, social media, reaching people where they are. we reached out to local elected officials and spread through word of mouth and give our volunteers a positive experience. this is not just about charity. this is about solidarity and pulling a community closer together. i'm a college student right now but i finished school early and going back to volunteer for this organization full time because i believe so strongly in this mission and that together by pulling communities together, even as it feels like the world pulls us apart, we can try to pull through together. >> you had some remarkable
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personal connections with people you served. the volunteers making a connection and reading a thank you note they received which read thank you, all, for helping my father. what you do matters and matters greatly. you really touched my father's heart. sadly he passed away recently but i wanted you to know how much your actions meant to my family. thank you from the bottom of my heart. that has to really make you feel so much better about the world around you and what your role is in it. >> yeah. you know, we get hundreds of letters like that and some of them are uplifting and some of them are heartbreaking. but all of them are reminders of why we do this work and it's a reminder that our volunteers and donors, we're all involved in something that is about so much more than any one of us individualally. i think right now all of us are feeling really scared and a little traumatized by the prospect of not just canceling
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holiday plans but another season of disease and death. i may have covid right now and it's pretty likely i won't be able to see my grandparents on christmas for the first time in my whole life. that's scary and sad, but i found such purchase and community through doing this work and so, you know, if anyone out there is interested in joining us, please, sign up to volunteer. donate whatever you can. go to invisiblehandsdeliver.org and this has been such a positive experience for me and our volunteers. a real way to form community and support your community in a time of need. >> and, liam, i know you're very modest but i'm just going to say you're not only just finishing college and finishing early and going to be volunteering but you're finishing yale having completed your last papers and study and just named a scholar. what are your plans? >> yeah, thank you so much. i'm really excited at the chance to go to england and study probably comparative government.
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basically to study how to make our democracy more accountable which i know you were just talking about in the last segment. thank you for that and it's such important work and it's related to this. we need, i think, a stronger social safety net so in times of need we don't have to rely on college students reaching outto people they know and build an organization from scratch. but people know they will be cared for. i want to thank you, andrea, for having us on and helping us to spread the word and helping us form community in a time of profound need. it means the world to me and to our volunteers and to all the people who rely on us every day for our service. so, again, if you can, please, go to invisiblehandsdeliver.org and fund or volunteer or donate. a facebook fund-raiser going on and you can find me on social media and always happy to talk about this work and keep it going into 2022. >> we're putting it up on the screen. thank you so much, liam. we get more from you in terms of
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making us feel better about the world than i could possibly help you. so, we're putting that up and we'll put that out on our website and on twitter and thank you, again. and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports" follow the show online and on twitter. we'll have an expanded show tomorrow. chuck todd with "mtp daily" starts right after this.
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