tv Yasmin Vossoughian Reports MSNBC January 2, 2022 1:00pm-2:00pm PST
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welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian. welcome. if you're still with us, thank you. this hour a special report. january 6th, a year later. days before the anniversary we look at how things have changed and an investigation that's still just beginning into what caused it. >> we came critically close to losing this democracy as we've come to know it and so it's our
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duty as patriots, as americans, as members of congress to get it right. >> the primary lever, instrument, cause of that violence is the promulgation of that big lie by the former president. >> members of the staff pleading with him to tell people to stop. we know leader mccarthy pleading with him to do that. we have testimony that his daughter ivanka went in at least twice to ask him to please stop this violence. >> also this hour, progressives refusing to surrender on the build back better bill. republicans finally find unemployment benefits to support if it's for people losing the jobs over refusal to be vaccinated. we begin with the upcoming
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one-year anniversary of january 6 when pro trump supporters stormed the capitol. nbc' leighann caldwell has more. >> usa! >> reporter: the attack on the capitol has damaged and long lasting ramifications. did this play a role in the decision not to run? >> yeah. >> reporter: for this woman who serbed for ten years january 6 convinced her a tough campaign was not worth it. >> most interaction that day with my family. they just saying it's time to go. and my husband said, i don't see it getting better out there. >> reporter: in the hours after january 6, congress returned to the chamber that night determined to certify the election. the optimism is short lived. 139 house republicans still objected to 2 state's electors
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and since then lawmakers say congress has deteriorated. >> what happened from january 6 on is this strengthening of spreading the lies. >> congress is broken and the country sees it. >> undoubtedly it is broken. >> reporter: democrats say the problem is the refusal of many republicans to acknowledge that joe biden won the election. >> i think it makes it very difficult for us as lawmakers to be able to work together when you're operating on a completely different level in terms of information and willingness to adhere and accept reality. >> reporter: signs of a struggling congress post-january 6 are everywhere. speaker pelosi and leader mccarthy don't speak. democrats removed two republicans from the committees
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for threats against colleagues. a muslim democrat is likened to a terrorist. fred upton voted to impeach the former president. he's been in congress for nearly 30 years and now he says -- >> it is different and colleagues on both sides take advantage of that particularly on the fund raising angle of things which just propels some nastiness that we would not have seen in decades before. >> reporter: the more nationty you are the more money you raise? >> that's right. >> reporter: john mitchum says it is like the times before the civil war. >> is it about winning the minute on twitter? is it about winning the week? is it about winning the next election? or, is it about preserving a constitutional experiment in american liberty? >> reporter: can congress, a
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political institution, preserve itself. republicans say the congress needs to move on. >> things that have been normal and regular for years need to be done. we expect to win or lose based on when you got the majority and not to completely run over someone. >> reporter: as republicans say the last election was stolen democrats say that's nearly imperform. can you fix it? >> the american public has to say this is not okay. >> want to bring in the panel. danny cevlelos, amanda ramirez and rena shah. welcome to you all. happy new year. great did see you. amanda, i want to start off by
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asking you the question that report led off on, which is, can congress be preserved a year later? >> this is a major tipping point that folks are going through right now. right? when you think back to january 6th there was a moment where people came together as a party in those final hours to come to a vote and to make sure that the election is solidified. right now we are seeing a year later this is and will be seen as a political football as we enter the mid firm elections and will determine elections going forward. does this define the republican primaries three months away in texas and march 1st? what does this mean for the republican party? how does this set the stage for the midterms? the scary piece here and biggest piece in that poll is around the
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pride in democracy here. seeing that number go from 9 to 4 in confidence in the democracy is a telltale sign of the direction of the country. >> let's bring that poll up. the percentage of violent people. 54% believe the people were mostly violent. 55% independents. only 26% republican just take a look another poll. how much is trump to blame for the january 6 attack? republicans say 27%. a great deal or good amount. 72% of republicans say just some. not at all. trump voters 83% say just some or not at all. how do you bridge the gap over how republicans and trump voters
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specifically view january 6 and why it happened and the reality that we all experienced? >> i'm not alone. in this past year feeling so frustrated by americans pushing back on fact based evidence. we have seen a segment of the american public deny what is overwhelming evidence and firsthand account that tell us how close we came to losing the democracy. if we came so close how does it feel like every actor past holding people accountable to do that? what we know now is that there's been a crisis of trust in this country and continues to erode amongst people who are, for example, in my demographic millennials between 18 and 24 are the fastest losing trust in
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democracy. i was raised to have a healthy dose of skepticism of government and fits into my life. never once did i think i'll see americans justify political violence and think it's okay to overthrow the american government so this is a moment to do something and took us so much to get to january 6, 2021. now the task is to get americans think it doesn't have to happen to them for them to care. it feels like we have in the dark moment where nobody is doing anything. there's not a hero. no cavalry is coming. this is traitors sitting in congress. i'm convinced that there are still traitors in congress.
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>> how? how? is it through conversations, experiences? calling up the local representatives? how do you confront that head on? you bring up this subject i want to talk about next which is the violence in this country that the former president is making as we speak and will likely be making and will likely be on the anniversary that violence against the government is something that's justified now. that's a very worrying prospect. >> we do it with our dollars, with teaching. we every terrible students of history in this country. in the last ten years, this is a moment where americans should not just question the neighbors but reconnect with the neighbors. they are fellow americans who play a part into how we create a
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more just and prosperous society for each other. now i'm saying this as a person that leaves the career in the republican party and refuse to back down and they left me. i didn't leave them. we talk about personal experiences and history and look at people in the eye and say is this the country you want for our kids. go in the street and attack somebody because they're another color or religion and just may have different views of policies and that's un-american and the dollar portion we can do today by refusing anybody that supports people who promote the big lie. >> danny, talk about the congressional investigation. we spend time on programs on
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msnbc talking about the investigation. not just what is coming out of this investigation which seems to trickle out and then moving into a public phase in the next year, but also, about who will and will not testify, will and will provide documents, who will be held in criminal contempt like steve bannon and will not be held in contempt. how much oxygen those types of processes take up and what i mean by that is, seeking out the documents that this investigation needs, wanting to bring people in to testify to subpoena them. >> it takes a -- all the oxygen. 100% of it. pure oxygen that's swept up because we're dealing with a system that is not really like the judicial system. in the judicial system if there's a subpoena or a search warrant then someone will
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enforce it. what we have learned over the past five years is congress and the committees have a broad power to investigate and issue subpoenas but what we learn is when push comes to shove they may not have boots on the ground do go out and enforce it and that's the strategy you see this subpoenaed persons here using. delay works to their advantage. it's usually the benefit of a defendant burr for these individuals for the records and the documents and the cell phone information because the longer they successfully delay then the more likely we get into a new congress, an election, a new congress comes around or the alternative as crazy as this may sound, is that people kind of forget. people move on. we heard that sentiment in a package that just aired. some people feel what the heck?
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it happened. they prosecuted people. let's move on. past investigations by congress have fallen to that same fate. witnesses, memories fade, people move on. that is a very bad thing for the january 6th committee to work against. they know they work against time. delay works against them. >> that's exactly what it seems americans want is for the public to move on and not necessarily hear the results of the congressional investigation into january 6. i want to play for you chairman bennie thompson talking about the timeline to january 6 and what is so troubling about the former president's actions that day. >> the president was told you need to say directly to your people to go home. leave the capitol. and so, it took over 187 minutes
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to make that simple statement. something's wrong with that. >> three plus hours. three plus hours, amanda, for the president that day when i stood on the steps watching this unfold knowing they were inside. people had been injured, killed at that point, to say go home. i love you, he said. but go home. what do you make of what bennie thompson said there? >> i think he is pointing to how important it is for people to tune in now, not just to as we think about the elections but to save our democracy. a thing you asked is what can people do as they watch and see the midterm election and the conversation happen. one is to tune back in. see the facts. these conversations happen in school boards, people need to show up there. we do need to have a conversation about how to bring
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the country back together again. it is never more important now not only thinking about january 6 but setting the country back in the right direction and not just happening in congress but on the ground where we live every day. >> danny, amanda, rena, thank you all. cracking down on covid misinformation. twitter banned congresswoman greene over false and misleading posts about the pandemic and the damage is done. are partisan politics the reason we cannot kick this crisis? are you ready for football? new cdc guidelines get players back on the field faster but that comes as a risk. we are live with the latest on the surge. we'll be right back. - really? i just had my 17th surgery.
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covid cases at the same time as a massive storm disrupting weather is causing backup. cancelations of 4,000 flights and 12,000 delayed flights leaving passengers stranded and reporting record breaking numbers of workers out sick happening at the busiest travel day. more than 6 million since christmas week. and more than 800,000 americans have died from coronavirus but the next guest said partisanship is as much to blame as any. splashed across the internet repeated on news networks and endorsed by politicians like greene who is permanently banned from twitter today after violating the misinformation
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politics. it is a tragedy for which he believes we all bear the blame. can we correct course in time to save lives? joining me now is dr. brian, president and ceo of the debeaumont foundation. thank you. >> thank you for having me. >> want to start with what you told "business insider." it is a bold statement. for every death certificate with covid-19 as a primary cause of death partisan shi should be listed as a contributing cause. this pandemic was politicized from day one. can you expand on that, fo me, doctor? >> a house divided its can't stand and can't manage a pandemic effectively either. we had elected leaders from the start question the severity and
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then question the safety of the vaccines. this has led to a nation that is not adhering well to public health guidance, led to people not wears the masks and lower rates of vaccination and cost americans lives. this behavior exacerbated the death toll we are seeing. >> why do you think it was to easy to politicize this? >> i think we have been in a period of disnmpgs and misinformation nor a while. if you can believe that the election was stolen it is easy to believe data of the vaccines can be faked. if we don't have facts it is a
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deleterious things of fact just two plus two is four no matter how bad you want it to be seven and vaccines are safe no matter how bad you want them to not be. >> at the time i think a lot of us laughed about it but now the gravity is just so astounding to me. talking about kind of an egregious instances of misinformation, there were even doctors that were part of spreading this misinformation, health care workers, doctors that advised and worked for the former president. you have a poll out of a study saying 9 in 10 americans say doctors should be held accountable for covid
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misinformation. >> i don't think there's anything else to find that 9 out of 10 americans agree on. so there's a need to hold doctors spreading misinformation and disinformation accountable. it is coming from a small minority of vocal physicians who are on social media and they're spreading this disinformation about the pandemic and the problem is that white coat they wear, it signifies expertise and so when you hear it from your doctor, it takes on a different sense of truth than coming from the uncle bob at the thanksgiving dinner table. >> what is the motive there? do you think the doctors believe what they are saying? >> i think it adds to the politicization of the pandemic and the health and the
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undermining of health and medicine is part of the assault on democracy. what we have is -- >> why would the physicians do it? they took an oath. that's what i don't understand. why would the physicians do it? scientists? >> it's not cleefr why they're doing it and that's why we need to not figure out why but take action. the state medical boards can act and try to rein in the physicians saying patently false things. there are things we can debate and things that are simply untrue. we need to know the difference and not on vis kated in the national conversation. >> state medical boards, what you say and i haefr is stripping them of the medical licenses if they spread misinformation that cost the lives of americans.
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(music) ♪ i think to myself ♪ ♪ what a wonderful world ♪ the senate is returning to capitol hill tomorrow to begin the new year as president biden's agenda hangs in the balance. some members of the house are calling on president biden to take a different course of action to get the policies across the finish line. here's what congresswoman jayapal told my colleague this morning. >> the call now is to do two things. one, work very quickly to actually get that legislation passed. it is urgent along with voting rights. those two pieces absolutely are urgent and then the second is
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because we don't know how long that piece is going to take there are executive actions the president can take today to make life better for people and to let's say up the ante to make sure we get legislation done. >> joining now by congressman of new york. congressman, great to see you. happy new year. >> thank you. happy new year to you, yes. >> let's talk about what your colleague there said talking about how the presidentt build e finish line and executive action less and more negotiating. do you agree with that strategy? >> it could be a come by nation of both but i think we have a window of opportunity to get senator manchin there.
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he's been so like back and forth on this issue and his public statements and his private comments are at odds with each other and the promise made to the president and the proposal, counter proposal he put on the table so i think there's space to bring him there and perhaps we can do that as quickly as possible. however, i also think that some areas could be explored for executive order. >> the senator had explained that everybody had negotiated the build back better plan down to 1.75 trillion. and then things started to get added back into this bill. right? little by little. one of the things that had been taken out is immigration reform. we know where senator manchin stands coming to including the
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reforms. is that something that you work on getting added back in to the bill or do you think it will threaten the passage of it and then you will not and try to get it passed in another way? >> we wanted the bill to come to the floor. now, the parliamentarian ruled for a third time against the proposals put forward. immigration reform. that does not mean it's been stripped out of the package totally but we would like the package to be sent to the floor and i'm sure to find a way to build consensus around what issues are troubling some members but this is so important. this is something that will really hurt families across the country if we don't pass this piece of legislation. by the way, immigration i think is joined at the hip with build back better program.
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immigrants have been throughout history part of every recorr in the nation. the labor is there. the sweat equity is there. we can see the presence there. i don't think it's any different now so i know that somehow some way that certain provisions of the immigration reform bill must be included in this package. yes. >> all right. you talk about a two-pronged approach. negotiate with manchin. right? to get it of the finish line and executive order. xakd get passed through executive action? >> the white house will have to determine that to put forward but again i think that the leadership of the senate has to express a willingness to try to continue to push for this and
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bring it to the floor to let every senator vote the conscience. it is different than going on the senate floor and telling 94,000 parents that the children won't have day care or the children eligible for the child tax credit will not be eligible. that's a different ball game and he's been somewhat back and forth on the issue and some opportunity there and back. >> so you agree with senator sanders to bring the vote to the floor and have manchin's vote noted if he votes again. thank you. happy new year. working to rebuild. tens of thousands of afghans resettling in the u.s. a family's journey and the groups dedicated to helping them
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i feel really good. for restorative herbal sleep, like never before. welcome back. more than 74,000 afghans have embarked on a new lifer in the u.s. the roughly 48,000 in america kick off 2022 in new homes, facing fresh challenges. during the holidays i headed to florida and spoke to a refugee family rebuilding there. on august 15th, the taliban seized control of afghanistan. afghans desperate to leave the country fearinging prison or worse. >> if my visa is not issued we were in danger. >> reporter: after dull an
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interpreter left his country with his pregnant wife and five children, just 20 days before the taliban tackover. >> i had left all behind. just some clothes, some important things. and i left it all in afghanistan. >> our president is president biden. >> reporter: lutheran social services in jacksonville, florida, helping refugee families build a new life. the group helps them with finding housing and welcome money, about $1,200 per family member. >> our goal is self sufficiency by 90 days which is a tall goal. not knowing english or anyone here. >> reporter: ab dull is forged ahead stocking sheflgs for $14 an hour. barely enough money to corr the represent as the welcome money
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dries up. they just need the basics for themselves and families. >> reporter: that's where a local school steps in. for 15 year it is day school donated toys and necessities to refugee families. giving gifts to refugees including abdul and his family helping students learn important lessons. >> accept everyone. we are technically the same. there's nothing really different except for looks and stuff. >> i hope they feel happy and that they realize it is like people care for them in the new country. >> reporter: what do you want to do when you grow up? >> doctor. >> reporter: a doctor? and they do feel happy in the new home with the opportunity for a fresh start. but not without fear for what they left behind. >> all my family members that are back in afghanistan i'm worried about them. some nights even i could not
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sleep because of my brothers. what will happen to them? what will be their future? >> abdul is like many who made it out leaving behind lives and loved ones without visas to evacuate. about 27,000 afghans remain on 7 bases across this country awaiting processing. like abdul they hope for a better life an and to be reunited with family here in the united states. the unusual cause gop lawmakers have taken up. as we go to break, catch an all new "politics nation" tonight. speaking with attorney benjamin crump. "politics nation" live 5:00 p.m. right here on msnbc.
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the nfl facing a covid surge. more than 500 players tested positive for the virus in the last month which represents over a quarter of the whole league. but for those players that test positive they will have to isolate for five days as the league embraces that new guidance from the cdc. scott cohn is in santa clara at the home of the 49ers hosting the texans. what can you tell us how the 49ers from highly vaccinated san francisco have managed to only have one player all year test positive. >> reporter: yeah. that one player is the punter who is back after testing positive for covid in part because of those reduced isolation protocols and he's
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getting a bunch of work today with no score in the second quarter between the 49ers and the houston texans but there is a league wide definite surge with 100 players in the last week going on the covid reserve list. the nfl is trying to keep things together with two weeks until the playoffs but it is tough. carson wentz back. not enough to bring them to a win. they lost to the l will have raiders. kirk cousins of the vikings out for the matchup tonight with the packers. sunday night game. so they're trying to keep this together. 49ers from san francisco and play in santa clara did relatively well in part because they had this situation last year they couldn't play in the stadium because of the santa clara county covid protocols and
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now the team is not taking any chances. >> besides the fact that you have to wear masks around the bay area a lot, i think people understand what you have around bay area, around the facility, people understand what you have to do. ing everybody but one player is vaccinated on the team. they took is seriously and that's why i can they made it to this point okay but also not taking for granted the fact they're in positive health right now. >> reporter: what about the fans? levi stadium is basically playing to capacity today, no restrictions other than wear a mask in indoor areas, no vaccine mandate but for the fans who turned out today, they're just happy to be here to support their team. >> it's outdoors. most of the activities were socially distanced. the person, my son over there,
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we both have covid vaccines. we're boosted. most of my section actually wears masks. i don't. >> reporter: jerry, out today not because of covid but because of a sprained thumb. >> good to talk to you scott and happy new years to you. coming up, the don't look up debate, why this netflix is caution controversy, what the movie got right and what it got wrong. be right back. wrong. be right back. you sleep longer. and longer. zzzquil pure zzzs all night. fall asleep. stay asleep.
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losening eligibility for insurance, making it accessible and doing it for a very particular set of people, antivaxxers. joining me to talk more about this, zeehan, this is astounding. what's going on here? >> well, so typically in the u.s. if you are fired or voluntarily leave from a job, like violating company policy you are uneligible for employment benefits, and what is some states, arkansas, kansas, have been doing is create a special vow for those who refuse to get vaccinated and comply with policy, get fired, will still be eligible for unemployment insurance. so it's kind of remarkable
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thinking about unemployment with the massive incentives to it among republicans. >> my gosh, that is so troubling. you actually quote dean baker a columnist who says a people are going to abuse this, the gop's government aid, corruption, what are the real-world implications of a policy like this? >> yeah, so i'm not really in the business of making big predictions about economic behavior but baker did say it would cause an uptick in people sort of trying to cash in on this, you know, is not speaking truthfully about vaccination status or maybe increasingly inclined to get fired for refusing to get vaccinated because of this. and so yes, this is, in a sense, if it were to happen, it would fulfill some of the republican
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party's sort of, you know, nightmare scenario where you're creating incentives for not working, for not participating and creating people who are, in their eyes, sort of parasites on the system for, you know, by taking up unemployment, you know, when they could be working otherwise. so it seems to be a sort of, you know, departure from their general principles of, you know, sort of getting people to stay in the economy by any means and if they don't extend this kind of generosity or sympathy towards the millions of americans who are employed who 34 of through our at will system can be fired at cause and constantly vulnerable to a weak social safety net so republicans making a decision on the back of what can danger the rest of the
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population not. >> take a look, the music group with adam mckay, kind of the nature of how they did it and the timing of it all. you wrote a piece talking about what they got wrong about climate change and what they got right. talk me about that quickly. >> sure, i think it's a commendable, ambitious effort, i love the movie, a lot of great points. i think what they did well was the way they sort of poke fun at the billionaire tech mogul's ability to shape government policy and whimsically destroy one planet and create projects to create other ones, that are really mainly accessible -- i think they did that really well. i think one of the limitations of it again, i think it's worth watching and makes a lot of
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great points, sort of one of the limitations would be basically that it focuses a lot on denial of climate change and i think we're at a point where a majority of people do believe manmade climate change is happening and what needs to be done about it, but we of what we need is build a political movement that actually realizes a need for change. >> zeeshan aleim, thank you, happy new year to you. that wraps it up for me, i will turn it over now to reverend al sharpton and politics nation. good evening, and welcome to politics nation. tonight's lead, new year, new beginnings and i'm ready for a
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