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good evening and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, new year, new beginnings. i'm ready for a fresh start. no i'm not talking about setting any new year's resolutions, but where we are in the nation. we could use a different approach. a year ago this week, many of us watched in horror as donald trump's supporters stormed the capitol to try to overturn the 2020 election.
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january 6th will forever leave a dark stain on the fabric of this country. it was an attack on our democracy and it still has seen little to be done to hold those accountable. according to a new abc poll, an overwhelming majority, 72% of americans, believe the people involved in the attack on the capitol were threatening democracy. i worry where we are headed as a nation if we don't change course and hold those accountable for their actions on january 6th, including the former president, who americans mostly agree is at least partially to blame. meanwhile, as the house select committee is investigating the attack on the capitol, which they plan to have public hearings this year, donald trump is threatening to hold a news
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conference at his mar-a-lago resort on thursday seeking to co-op the day and rewrite history. conversely congressman jamal brown is urging president bush to use his executive authority to recognize january 6th as a national day of healing. this goes beyond one day. right now republicans at the state and local level are aggressively passing voter suppression legislation all based on a lie. according to the brennan center so far 19 states have enacted 33 laws to make it harder for americans to vote and more are expected. as 2022 commences here is a plan we can all stick to. make sure next year.
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joining me now is congresswoman debbie dingell, democrat of michigan. first of all, congresswoman, we are days away from the one-year mark of the capitol hill insurrection. speaker nancy pelosi laid a full program of events and commemoration of the deadly riot. what are your reflections from that terrible day? what will it mean to take part in the events hosted by the speaker? >> reverend sharpton, happy new year, first. and i am really glad to talk to you about this because i really am worried about our democracy. i actually am going to stay in michigan. i'll be following what my colleagues do in washington on january 6th, but it was actually the michigan national guard that was in washington. there were more than half of the national guard that was assigned
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to the capitol for two months. and i talked to many of those national guard members since they were there. i don't think people really comprehend it. people came to the capitol that day to try to kill people. i'm worried about our democracy. i'm worried about the hate and the fear in this country, the violence that we see too easy. and i'm hoping that on january 6th we can think about what we have in common because we're too focused on what divides us. and with people, i'm not going to put a name on them, but there are people trying to undermine our confidence in the voting system and suppress votes and those that have the fear of what happened a year ago people don't have confidence in. that is threatening our democracy. >> i've known you a while and certainly you are not one given to hyperbole. you are saying as many of us saw with our own eyes some people
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came with the intent to kill people. this is not something that is over blown when you say that. and with the intent of over throwing an election. it was the day for the certification of that election. what is your reaction to the new abc poll that shows an overwhelming 70% of americans condemn what happened on january 6th? but only 58% of americans believe trump bears responsibility. 78%, 78% of republicans still back donald trump's version of events. i mean, what is your take on this? >> what i'm really worried about is what is happening to our democracy, to be perfectly frank. i am glad to see that high number of people that were outraged at the violence. but i think all of us, you know, we have to lose some of these
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labels. i am an american first and foremost. and that's what we all need to think about more. and i don't want to name call, i don't want to go after president trump. i am going to tell you, he encouraged people to go to the capitol that day. he has continued to question the validity and the credibility of an election republicans and democrats have said was a fair and honest election. he's trying to undermine people's confidence in our democracy. and that is what worries me. that is what bothers me. that is what threatens the fundamentals of our democracy >> i want to turn to your state of michigan. a redistricting commission set new political boundaries for the next decade. one of the takeaways from this effort that you would have to leave your hometown of dearborn, michigan in order to keep
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serving in congress. i mean, what are the chances that this new voting district map gets challenged? what are you plans, congresswoman? >> i'm not going to challenge it. it was a nonpartisan commission and the reason i am moving, i could win, i mean i suspect i would win the election if i didn't move, but i believe in the voting rights act and i believe in representation and i think this is -- 70% -- look, i do believe in representation. i think this will be -- i don't think i'm the right person to speak about it. we had a nonpartisan commission. i hope that those who do care about our democracy are paying attention. >> well thank you. we had a little muffle with your
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mic but we got the message. thank you, congresswoman dingell. let's continue this discussion with the one and only congresswoman from california, activist extraordinaire, i could go on and on, congresswoman maxin, ms. chairperson maxine waters. let me start with as we've been saying the one-year mark for january 6th insurrection is thursday. you always have been a lightning rod for the right and you were in the capitol when it was breached and as we were watching that day a lot of us were worried, where is maxine? we knew you'd be a target. what were your feelings that day and what are your feelings a year on? >> thank you so very, very much. let me say happy new year to you. >> happy new year. >> despite all we have encountered over the last year i'm optimistic. if there is anything that i can
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do it is encourage the democrats to learn how to fight. and to deal with the issues at hand. you are absolutely right in, you know, talking about what happened that day. i was there. i was in my office. i could not believe what was taking place because just a couple days before that i had an hour long conversation with the police chief of the capitol and i begged him not to allow the protesters to get up on the platform there around the capitol building, the plaza. i told him that he should have, you know, security on the top of the buildings because i reminded him that martin luther king and john kennedy both had been assassinated from the top of buildings, etcetera. i talked to him about the fact that the proud boys were in town
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and everybody knew it because they had already caused some disturbance downtown and violated a church down there. i talked with him about qanon and the oath keepers and all of the domestic terrorists. and he pooh poohed it pretty much but he told me they had it covered. that he didn't know what i was worrying about. and of course he thought it was ridiculous to talk about the top of the building. he said they couldn't get on top of the capitol building. and so as i sat there and watched how they took over our capitol, how they were on top of that building, how they attacked the capitol police, i could not wonder why didn't the chief of police and others know that we were in potential danger from the way these protesters were being organized? why didn't they have the
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intelligence that they should have had? i understand they did have some intelligence. so the investigation we're doing with that special commission that was organized by nancy pelosi is extraordinarily important to try and get to the bottom of this, identify the members of congress who were in the planning along with the domestic terrorists and the president of the united states. i believe they have to be identified, what they did has to be documented, and they have to be accountable for what they have done. and for, you know, anybody who understands that they challenged our democracy they better know that this president in my estimation was bent on not only challenging the democracy but staying in office the way dicts do it. i think we are in danger. he is not going to stop. he does not believe we'll
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absolutely identify his participation, his leadership in all of this and jail him, make him pay for what has been done. we have to be determined. >> a year after january 6 the gop seems to have learned nothing from the deadly day and their fire brands seem to have been emboldened though they occasionally face consequences. twitter has personally suspended the personal account of georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor greene over what the company says was repeated violations of their covid-19 misinformation policy. she immediately tried to drag you into the situation by mentioning your name at the top of her statement writing, quote, maxine waters can go through the streets and threaten violence on twitter. first of all, anybody that has known you for decades and i have worked with you for decades all over the country, we've never on
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twitter or nowhere else heard you do anything but call for justice never even remotely call for violence. but how do you respond to you always wanted to go -- you are one of the go to names when they try to defend themselves for their misdeeds. >> let me say this. when you talk about congresswoman green you're talking about the kind of extremist radical that is now in the house of representatives who is basically dangerous. she is dangerous because she doesn't believe in the constitution herself. she has been threatening, you know, other members of congress. they have been all over and in the face of aoc, out of new york, following her around, trying to intimidate her. she has not believed that little children that got killed in
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school by, you know, a murderer who invaded their school that it actually happened. she denies it. and so this woman is not only radical i think she does not have good sense period. she has no business in the house of representatives. she loves guns. she wanted to bring her gun into the house of representatives. and i think if she stays around she is going to create some really difficult problems for us who are trying to serve in the house. i don't care what they say about me. you are absolutely right. i am a target of the right. i called out this president. i warned this country that this man was dangerous. and that he did not believe in the constitution. he did not care about the democracy. he was aligned with putin and kim jong un. he loved the way these dictators ruled their countries and that's what he wants to do. i said it over and over again that he was a threat to our
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democracy. so some people are just catching up with that but we had better know if we don't stop him, he is going to continue because he is intent on overthrowing the constitutional government because he wants to rule like a dictator. and that is not just hyperbole. this is absolutely what i think he has demonstrated. we better know it. instead of talking about putting people on the street, for get out the vote, our people need to be on the street now. >> yes. >> going door to door. need to be in the supermarkets. need to be in our malls, passing out literature, letting people know that this president and this vice president has responded to the pandemic. the stimulus checks, the money they've received, ppp money, ppe for all of the equipment we got together to make sure that the nurses and the doctors could do their work all of this was done
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by this president. >> it needs to be out there now. i agree with you. and among the things, we're out of time but i must say, because i was just at the white house at the treasury department where you were cited on many things you've done in financial services, not just being cute when i said chairperson. a lot of the concrete things you have gotten done. >> that's right. >> that haven't gotten a lot of coverage that's helped people that have been outside of being able to do business and those never regulated i think there's been no more productive chairperson in congress since adam clayton powell other than maxine waters. thank you for being with us tonight. >> well thank you so very much. i appreciate your recognition of the work that we do in financial services. and the way that we have created money and capital for small businesses and the way we are continuing to do everything that we can to help build wealth in
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this country for people who have been denied, the people of color. i want to thank you for the work that you do. i want to thank you for the civil rights work that you do. i want to thank you for not being afraid of dealing with police in this country and those who do not respect that they have been hired to protect and save us from crime. i believe that you and the lawyers you've brought in helped us get to the point where finally it looks as if we are making believers out of them and getting some justice and we have got to keep going. >> well, that was the perfect segue. i'm ready to bring in the chief attorney on that right after you today ben crump is coming up with new questions about how to police the police after yet another deadly shooting involving an officer that leaves a 10-year-old girl dead. attorney general of black america dan crump joins "politics nation" next. but first my colleague with
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today's other top news stories. >> thank you, reverend. stories we are following today in colorado two people are still missing and feared dead after thursday's devastating fires which destroyed nearly a thousand homes. one person who had been declared missing has since been accounted for. recovery efforts have been made. but more difficult by the snowstorm this weekend which dropped nearly a foot of snow. nearby aspen snow and ice caused deplaning passengers to nearly fall off the ramp on saturday. across the country more than 2,000 flights were canceled today due to a combination of bad winter storms and coronavirus disruptions. in amsterdam, netherlands today riot police tried to break up a crowd of several thousand people protesting the dutch government's covid-19 lockdown measures. the netherlands has been in lockdown lasting until at least january 14th. more "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton after the break. with a revolutionary, rollerball design.
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new reaction to the body cam video in the police shooting of a 14-year-old girl killed by a stray bullet that went through a dressing room wall as officers fired at an assault suspect at a los angeles department store. police say the officer who fired the fatal shot is now on administrative leave, which is a standard procedure. the lapd police chief saying in part, the chaotic incident resulting in the death of an innocent child is tragic and devastating for everyone involved. our commitment is to conduct a thorough, complete, and transparent investigation into the circumstances that led to the tragedy. let's bring in civil rights attorney i'll call him the attorney general for black america, benjamin crump, who is
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representing the victim's family in this matter. attorney crump, where are we in the investigation in the police shooting of the 14-year-old and how do you feel it is going so far? >> right now, reverend al, the family is still anxiously awaiting any word from lapd and the city officials about how this tragedy occurred. they are also waiting for her body to be given to the funeral home for -- from the city coroner so they can start making funeral plans. as you know, they are from chile and it is so heart breaking. this is one of the saddest cases, reverend al. she had so many dreams. this was a young, 14-year-old princess who was going to english speaking only school
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even though english wasn't her native tongue and she made the honor roll. she had a dream of becoming an engineer working in technology to build robots to make the world a better place. she had dreams of going with her father to a los angeles laker game to see lebron james. her most important dream, reverend al, was to become an american citizen and, tragically, that will never happen. >> now, she was in the dressing room with her mother and there was this altercation outside, a man apparently doing whatever, and a ricochet bullet went through the door and i understand she died in her mother's arms? >> that's why i say, reverend al, this is one of the saddest ones. i know we've dealt with heart breaking cases but they were doing exactly what burlington coat factory wants you to do. go in the store and shop.
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they heard commotion. they went in the dressing room. she was trying to know christmas dresses. they heard a commotion, locked the dressing room door. her and her mother hugged each other and they started praying together. and tragically, they heard a loud commotion. she saw smoke. then she saw her daughter start to convulse. her body went into convulsions. she tried to wake her up, reverend al, and she said shea wouldn't wake up. and tragically, she was taken from this earth and it's just heart breaking because you keep thinking it's two days before christmas. you know shoppers are in the shopping center. could there have been a more measured response to make sure this young 14-year-old girl wasn't collateral damage as a result of the police officers engaging the suspect in this
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manner. >> now the los angeles police department released body cam footage on monday. what is your reaction to the video? what new details did you learn? >> well, we learned a lot, reverend al. my cocounsel, we talked about the fact that you have other officers there who were ready to use nonlethal weapons but were told i got this. get back. so that's a big question. should they have went with less intrusive measures, less fatal measures so you would make sure there were not innocent bystanders like 14-year-old valentina killed? the other thing that boggles the mind is the simple fact that they have training for these type of procedures. there seems to be some pattern that los angeles police department has engaged in
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shooting, using bullets in public spaces where you know there are going to be a lot of bystanders. they say cross, cross, to make sure they were safe. shouldn't they have taken the same extreme measures to say, we don't want to make sure any innocent bystanders are shot. this is heart breaking. the family, i have to tell you this, they watched when you and i and many of us led the call for justice for george floyd in their native country of chile. one of the things they are asking when we do have the funeral if you could come and officiate the funeral for 14-year-old valentina so we can make sure that everybody across america and the world knows her name as well because her name, her life matters and we should know her name, too. >> well, you can tell the family
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i'll be there. you and i have gone from not only george floyd from beebe, arkansas, and we will stand up for this young lady that only wanted to be an american citizen. i would be honored to officiate the services there in los angeles and of course stand with the attorney general for black america. another year you're on duty, attorney general benjamin crump. thank you for stopping by politics nation. up next shocking revelations be the who has been paying the highest price during the covid-19 pandemic. i'll discuss the latest with our medical contributor ahead.
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for the first day of the new year we saw the cases. the daily average over the last four days has increased by more than 200%. on top of this new reporting shows americans with kidney disease have experienced shocking rates of death because of covid-19. joining me now is dr. patel, a former obama white house policy director and current physician and fellow at the brookings institution. she is also an msnbc medical contributor. doctor, let's start with the larger picture here. the centers for disease control and prevention says omicron accounts for the majority of the cases in the country. how do you see this playing out? >> reverend, this is something we're trying to get our hands on by looking at the experience of other countries. for example south africa, other
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african countries, and european countries where they have peaked rather soon and could indicate the united state might peak in the next two to three weeks. that is good news because it means after that we should see a rapid decline. as fast as cases rose up they can decline. as you point out, it comes with this just brutal reality, parts of the economy shut down and people being sick. we're missing there is still a really vulnerable group that even if we vaccinate they don't achieve the kind of immunity that many others can achieve and they will always be vulnerable and we need to protect their ability to stay healthy. >> now, the president has set out to give 500 million free tests to americans. manufacturers say they'll have to ramp up production and likely won't be able to meet that demand for months. is the white house's response too little too late?
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>> no. it is never too little too late. it is disappointing it is this late and took especially rev after we saw the experience with delta, we had the brief moment in july where we thought this is it. we're recovering. we have vaccines. then we had the delta surge. that should have been our warning and beacon that this can continue on and on. it is not too little too late but it is disappointing and leaving a lot of americans in chaos and confusion. they have no way to get a pcr test, no way to go into a pharmacy, every pharmacy i've gone to, big signs at the door no rapid tests available. children are starting school tomorrow all across the country. >> a report out from republica shed light on the devastating toll on americans with end stage kidney failure. they rely on dialysis to stay alive. earlier in the pandemic they
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were hospitalized at 40 times the rate of the general population. before the pandemic the death rates had been going down. after the pandemic there is a 20% increase in deaths among this group with 18,000 people dying in 2020 alone. can you explain why the virus is so deadly for this group? >> yeah. this is a really important group. by the way across all ages higher incidence rates especially in black americans and unfortunately kind of the same story, rev, where we have many parts of the health system where we have barriers to access. when covid hit many dialysis centers were struggling to stay open so they could dialyze patients. you need to have dialysis several times a week to have your body clean and healthy and
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some of the nutrients you need and take out waste. what happens inside the kidneys and the body from the virus is just a general inflammatory response. it oefrms an already overwhelmed health system and also overwhelms the individual. you can't make up for that. now with the omicron surge we're seeing same patients, kidney disease, not even end stage renal disease and they don't have the capacity to deal with the effects of the virus. it is devastating across a number of age groups. >> thank you very much for sharing with us tonight. coming up, my political panel looks ahead at what's next in this new year with so much to look forward to and we'll hear
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their political predictions when it comes to the midterm and much more. ch more
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with so many political stories in the news at the start of this new year, let's bring in my political panel. republican strategist susan del percio and msnbc political analyst and democratic strategist danielle moody host of the woke af podcast and
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co-host of democracy-ish podcast. thank you for joining me this new year. susan, let's start with the one-year mark of the capitol attack this thursday. former president trump is planning to hold a media event where he will no doubt try to spend his own narrative about what happened that day and continue to perpetuate his big lie about the 2020 election. is this helpful to a republican party that seems poised to do well in the upcoming midterm elections this year? >> good evening, rev. happy new year to you. as far as donald trump's address he calls it a news conference. it probably won't be meaning he will not take questions from reporters and my guess it will be one of his typical rants. he has not been getting the crowds he was used to or he had when president. he is becoming less effective in
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that manner. will there be people who turn in? yeah. but will their mind be changed if by any other information or if they turned in to listen to what is happening on capitol hill on january 6th a year later? no. donald trump can rant and rave and do his thing. it is nothing we haven't heard before. it is not helpful for kevin mccarthy to have donald trump still trying to fight the 2020 election results. he wants to move on. he wants candidates that can talk about the -- talk more about issues than in the past and looking toward the future. so this only goes to help one person and that's donald trump's ego. >> now, danielle, the biden administration has done its part in terms of tracking down and prosecuting those that breached the capitol on january 6th. but has largely left it to congress to investigate the political routes of what
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happened. do you think that approach has been effective? should president biden be saying or doing more? >> i mean, i have to be real, reverend. yes, i think this administration should be doing more. you know, it was in 2020 that germany celebrated the 75th anniversary of the nuremberg trials. where are our trials here? why is no one recognizing that just because the first coup attempt didn't succeed doesn't mean there isn't going to be a second one. i think donald trump holding a media event on the anniversary of the insurrection is dangerous and problematic because if we had an intelligence community that thought this was important i think we would have called the members of congress in who had exchanges, conversations with insurrectionists on the day before the day of. we have a power point presentation that was done and yet all of the leaders, the donors that supported the
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insurrection are free and clear right now. i am still asking myself why. >> let me ask you this about a similar topic, susan. when we look at the midterm elections, we mention the congresswoman from georgia, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene's suspension from twitter earlier in the show. what are your thoughts about the impact she and others like her have on the republican party and do you think her banishment from twitter will have an effect? >> it will probably affect her fundraising and give her less of a voice. she'll still have her official house of representatives twitter account. we'll see how long that stays up for. i think it is a good thing she's down given the amount of dangerous misinformation on public health that she's been spreading. here is the thing, rev. when we start looking toward the
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midterms we have to first look at the republican primaries. and, yes. marjorie taylor greene seems like the right type of formula for republicans to win their primaries. be as extreme as possible. the only problem is for republicans they don't win swing districts with extreme candidates. i don't think we'll see the overwhelming flip of the house mccarthy probably hopes for. i think you are going to see a lot of races closer than typical because of the type of candidates going up from the republican party. >> danielle, if democrats don't pass the john louis voting act what does it mean for the party in the midterms both for the president's ability to get legislation passed and the party's ability to follow through on promises? >> the reality is that if we don't pass the voting rights
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legislation we don't have a democracy. we will have the perception of one. we will have the pageantry of one. but it won't be a democracy that is about one vote and one voice. i mean, frankly to susan's earlier point about swing districts and marjorie taylor greene republicans don't care when they are controlling the elections. when they have put trumpers in place, when they have gerrymandered the electoral map. they don't care about reaching out to people. it is why they don't have a platform and haven't offered one since 2016. so the reality here is that if manchin and sinema don't get in line and lock step with the rest of the democrats and those that voted for biden and harris this democracy is going up in smoke. kind of like the capitol did on 1-6. >> and many of us are pressing that very hard. we didn't even take the holidays off and we are not going to take our foot off the gas about voting rights. thank you both for being with
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despite a few firing speeches. >> joe biden said when he won, black america, you had my back, i will have yours. there's nothing more fundamental to having our back than voting rights. >> he has to make it the
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absolute priority. everything needs to move to the side, needs to call everybody, this has to be the priority. every morning before dawn, i get up and work out and give a message to people on my instagram of what i'm thinking of the day and i started the day by saying that, as i looked at some of the cases that we fought, the conviction in the case of the murderer of george floyd and of ahmed avery and of dante wright, we got some things done in '21, but there's much more work to do in '22, like voting rights, and like george floyd justice and policing and like making sure we do not allow the states rights movements in elections. but we also have to bring our
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communities to respecting each other and dealing with gun violence. one of the most interesting plays on that this christmas season was when i saw a right wing congresswoman attack kwanza, a celebration started in the african american community in the late '60s, i was around 11, 12 years old. it is seven principles that talks about unity and collective work and responsibility and faith and purpose. anybody can look up the principles of kwanza. that's what we need to deal with violence and gang-related activity in our community. i've been leading kwanza ceremonies since i was a teenage preacher, in fact, somebody sent me a new york times article from 1971 where 16-year-old reverend al sharpton conducted kwanza,
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that's me. we need to stop attacking things that need to be lifted up. kwanza is one of them. talking about lifting up i also want to say the legacy of archbishop desmond tutu, i was able to have many conversations with him, here we were together with the congregation of the black church alliance with reverend richardson, a gracious man and he would always say to me, we must preach justice and redemption and forgiveness. may he rest in peace and power, archbishop desmond tutu. we'll be right back.
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that does it for me. thanks for watching, i'll see you back here next weekend at 5:00 p.m. eastern, alicia picks up our news coverage now. >> hello, everyone, i'm alicia menendez, we begin in washington one year since a pro trump mob attempted to subvert democracy, on january 6, lawmakers will host events including a prayer vigil to remember the devastating attack on our capital. accountability continues as the former president still blocks to release the release of white house records from that day. what those records could answer, why trump remained silent for more than three hours as people
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ransacked the capitol in his name. here's what the chair of the 1/6 committee, thompson, told the press. >> were you able to determine what the president was doing while the capitol was under attack? how much clear is the picture today than january 6. >> well you know it's about 187 minutes we have now determined, he was in the white house, we determined that a number of people made attempts to contact him through his chief of staff. we also have information of other individuals who made calls, trying to get some semblance of response out of the white house, but for that 187 minutes, nothing happened. >> but regardless of the proof