go to operationsmile.org today and become a monthly supporter, or call. (gentle music) we're coming on the air with those big deal discussions. lots of talk, eight hours worth of talk. but the question? what kind of action will come out of that diplomatic back and forth between the u.s. and russia? so far not much, but that's not surprising. here's what else is not so surprising. russia insisting again today it has no plans to invade ukraine, even though they've sent about 100,000 troops to the border. richard engel is here, too. later we go one on one with a spokesperson about where these talks go from here. we're also following the

chicago teachers union about where the battle goes between teachers. more on how the mayor is responding. capitol hill just going into session now on what could shape up to be a big week on voting reform. we have what president biden is expected to say in his speech tomorrow in atlanta. i'm hallie jackson with you here in washington on this monday afternoon. we start with the latest on u.s.-russia talks. i'm joined by chief foreign correspondent richard engel, dr. angela stent, center for eurasian, russian and foreign studies. richard, you are hearing about the talks between the u.s. and russia. what are you seeing from where

you are? >> reporter: we're seeing a very stark contrast. the ukranian government has been remarkably silent about all of this. president walensky has not been out in front. yes, over the last several weeks we've heard him speak about the crisis, he's been out to the front wearing a uniform once or twice. but generally they have been very quiet about all of this, almost pretending that it isn't happening. that position from the government is striking many ukranians as a bit odd. perhaps they think he's trying to be stoic, trying not to show fear, that he and ukraine aren't cowering even though russia very obviously has 100,000-plus troops and heavy equipment on three sides of the board. -- border. when you get to the troops and talk to the front, they're very much aware of it. they say whatever happens happens, they're defending

themselves and they're not taking the russians' actions seriously. but the more you spend time with him, the more you realize he takes it incredibly seriously. they realize his lines would not hold up to a full russian invasion for very long. we were there today. even though it was freezing cold, they were using their shovels and spade to expand the trenches, doing what they could to make their position stronger and more secure, because they suspect these talks are either going to fail or that these talks might even be a trick that russia is making such unrealistic demands that it will then go and say, well, we gave peace a chance and now we have no other choice but to advance with our military. because russia from the very beginning has been blaming this crisis on ukraine, saying it is ukraine that is provoking russia, blaming nato saying it is nato that is threatening russian security. >> richard, stand by for just a

second. i want to go to matt who is overseas in moscow, and the u.s. has been very clear, aren't they, matt, that the u.s. is not going to concede russia for yanking the military into the ukraine. >> reporter: the ukraine said they are not going to give up their position on that. the head of the russian delegation said russians are not backing down, and they want the united states to understand just how this might go forward. this might seem to an american audience that this is coming out of left field, but for the russians this is a primary security concern for decades now, for at least the current group in the kremlin. you go back to 2007, you can kind of see the evolution of this position, this obsession with nato. it is a true threat to russia that they've heard it all before

from their perspective. nato is a defensive tact, the kremlin is not buying it. they have decided now is really the time to draw a line in the sand. they are demanding nothing less than a complete reconstruction to help the european security infrastructure, something they're tired of, and i've been here since 2018 when this ukranian crisis started, and it's interesting to see the sense of frustration the kremlin has growing to exaspirationexas. richard, you have covered this issue for such a long time. is there anything about this today or the readout from these talks that surprise you? >> not really. sorry. >> i think matt and i are on

similar pages here, because what surprised me is what matt was just talking about, is that russia is now laying out such a maximalist position. the u.s. wants to talk about limiting things. it wants to talk about limiting military exercises, it wants to talk about limiting this. they say, we're not interested in that. we want to strengthen military hardware in the baltics, mostly eastern europe, and completely redefining the structure of nato as it is today. going back to what matt was just saying, this is a profound core belief that has been brewing in russia for a long time. russia sees and vladimir putin personally sees the collapse of the soviet union in 1991 as the greatest catastrophe that ever happened to the russian people

in modern history. not only was it a catastrophe, he sees the west as having taken advantage of russia when it was down, taken advantage of russia as their weakest moment when the soviet union collapsed to gradually expand and add former members of the soviet union or satellite states of the soviet union to the nato alliance. now, perhaps because of afghanistan, perhaps because vladimir putin sees this as the right time, he's decided to make this maximalist claim, if you don't want to have an invasion, he says that's not going to happen, anyway, but if you don't want to have a ukranian invasion, you have to roll back russia to its position circa 1987. >> i want to bring you into this conversation, angela, because you believe the worst outcome

here has been avoided. explain that. >> at the moment, at least they said they'll continue talking. the talks could have broken down today. they didn't. they're going to consider talking. we have no real schedule for that. we don't know any details yet. we have, of course, talks on wednesday between nato and russia and the security cooperation of europe. that's some faint hope that diplomacy will continue. i did note deputy foreign minister saying we don't have much time, we have to do this quickly. on the other hand, deputy minister sherman said negotiations take a long time and can't happen immediately. i think the further invasion of ukraine is still there, and i think the u.s. still hasn't figured out, are the russians serious about negotiations, or are they using this as a fig leaf to turn around and say, well, you didn't advance so we

have no choice but to invade. >> the u.s. has constantly reiterated support about nothing without you. we're not going to negotiate, for example, ukraine without ukraine coming to the table. should these talks, discussions, undercut that? >> they don't inasmuch as ukraine will be involved on thursday in the osc discussions. nato will clearly talk about issues that pertain to ukraine, because russia's main point is we want you to say that nato will include them and nato won't say that. ukraine had a meeting with nato just recently. the u.s. is in constant contact with the ukranian government, so they're trying to keep them in the loop as much as they can. >> there is also the fact that vladimir putin has, in essence,

declared a victory in kazaghstan. what kind of message do you think that sends? >> putin could say, look, our neighbors want to be an influence. we're the ones that can prop up these governments to make sure they don't fall. so russia isn't going to leave kazighstan. i believe the ukranians have every right to be very concerned about what russia's next move will be. >> angela stent, thank you very much for being with us. we appreciate your expertise, and remind you that next hour we will go one on one with state spokesperson ned price coming up here later in the show. some january 6 news, because right now the donald trump legal team is in court. they're asking the judge to drop two key lawsuits, two from

democratic lawmakers and two from capitol hill police officers. all of these suits asking the former president to be responsible for the violence on january 6. you also have the house investigation committee responding to jim jordan's apparent refusal to cooperate with the subpoena. the panel writes this: mr. jordan has previously said he would cooperate in the committee's investigation, but it now appears that the trump team has persuaded him to try to hide the facts and circumstances of january 6th. >> reporter: you read this letter and there's not much surprising in it because jordan was the one person we thought might have reluctance toward cooperating with this committee.

you read in this letter what he says. he continuously goes after them for their work. for example, this one sentence he says to the committee, even if i had information to share with the select committee, he says the actions and statements of state democrats in the house show you're not conducting a fair-minded and objective inquiry. you see language like that and you think, of course he's not cooperating. but in a pretty literal letter, what's not stated is that "i will not cooperate with the committee." so the door is still open there for jordan to cooperate. the thing for the committee to consider next, and this was always the path they were sort of traveling on when they started requesting information from city lawmakers, is how far are they willing to go to actually get that information? we know that some of these lawmakers are on the receiving end or sending end of text messages to then chief of staff mark meadows. some of them are close friends of his, including jeff jordan. it makes sense the committee would want to talk to them, but if they don't cooperate with this request, the question the

committee has to answer next is are they ready to subpoena them, and then there's legal issues that stem from that. can they subpoena them, and in what way are the statements from city lawmakers protected from the kind of speech laws that protect lawmakers? a whole lot of questions as the city tries to find out how to get information and make it so the report does not have gaps in it, especially if they intend to make bigger criminal referrals down the line. >> let me go to these lawsuits and the argument the trump team is making in court. how fulsome do you make of those arguments and what are you raegd in the tea leaves so far? >> i don't see anything that shows the judge will say anything different. the trump team says as president he is basically immune for being sued for anything he did leading up to the rally on january 6 and

the right of the capitol because as president he's allowed to express himself. his job is speaking to the american people and that he can't be sued for his words. the judge seemed to question that, saying that can't be right. surely a president, for example, could be sued for advocating treason. there must be some limit as to what a president can be immune from. the second claim the trump lawyers make here is the plaintiffs in these lawsuits, the house democrats, the capitol police officers, can't establish a conspiracy involving the president between those who committed the riot and his own statements at the rally in his tweets beforesmarnld. they basically say there is no evidence as to riots. the young people who were sued here, they can't prove they were advocating a siege against the capitol. the judge said he spoke at the

rally, he urged people to go up there, and what am i supposed to do with the fact that he appeared to not want to stop it afterwards for at least two hours? that supports somehow that he supported what they were doing. that's the question he is asking the trump lawyers. he is asking lawyers for both sides questions, but it does seem like his most pointed questions are going toward the trump lawyers. >> pete williams, thank you very much for that. ali vitale, thank you. up next, new concerns you might have heard about. some are calling it flurona. we'll make a gut check when someone is infected with covid and the flu. we are allowed to the senate floor back in session this hour. we're taking you there. president biden making a prediction of voter right

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the number of covid cases in this country have hit more than 60 million with 3 million cases around the world. you have three cities trying to stop the spread and get ready for what's to come, even now two years into this thing. look what's happening in chicago schools. classes canceled for the fourth day there. the district is negotiating with the teachers and teachers union. then you have a duel sickness hitting the hospitals, a combination of the flu and coronavirus. people are calling it flurona. we have dr. kavita patel at the brookings institute and a former

advisor. you are where cases are going up. do i understand that correctly? >> reporter: that is correct. let's start with saying last week there was a case of a young boy who tested positive for both the flu and covid-19 at this particular testing center in western los angeles. that sort of got a lot of attention, right? the media has been covering it. as you mentioned, it's not a new disease, it's not a virus, it just means a person has been infected with both, from what we were told. health officials in l.a. said it's not a new case, they have been seeing this. that being said, we don't know who has had both infections at the same time because people don't normally get tested for the flu when they test for covid-19. they said when they have people in the hospital getting tested, they do test for both. in this particular testing site, people have to request the flu test which adds about an extra

$50 to the test. these with people paying $90 for an antigen test. it's very expensive for someone to request both tests. because most people don't get both tests, they don't know if they have this. we also spoke to a young boy in texas, a high school student, who tested positive for both the flu and covid-19. the symptoms were like we see from covid-19. what we are told from the experts are we don't have enough data to know if having both viruses at the same time will potentially make these much harder, but it makes sense if you have to deal with two viruses versus just one, it would be more difficult for the immune system. >> dr. patel, let me bring you in. the key thing here is not to be alarmist about covid or the flu. it depends on whether you have your shots, et cetera. give us the gut check from a doctor here. what are you looking at and what

do you think we either need to or do not need to be worried about? >> thank you for having me, hallie. we definitely need to worry about having two infections at the same time, and we were also seeing other infections at the same time as covid, respiratory viruses in children and some other viruses. so having this flu with covid is not new. what i would worry about is if you're in a particular population, for example, unvaccinated people, people at high risk or elderly, other chronic conditions. if you have respiratory diseases that are baseline, that can definitely set you up because it is two viral infections at the same time. here's what you and guad were just talking about. i am not worried this is creating some sort of super covid infection or changing the virus in a significant way, because we've had records of people getting flu back as far as february 2020 and getting covid, it's just not as high. you're hearing about it more because omicron activity is so

high, it feels like everywhere you go, somebody has had a covid infection. in clinics we're screening for flu, strep and covid at the same time because we see so much of it. >> we talked in the beginning of this discussion here in the introduction about what's happening in chicago, right, where schools are closed again now for a fourth straight day and this incredibly acrimonious fight between parents and the teachers union. you're thinking about kids in schools especially as it relates to the omicron surge which, so far, seems to be more mild, but kids can still transmit it. they can still be transmission vectors as well. >> that's right. hallie, i wish we had what a school-based transition looks like with omicron, but we didn't have as many schools in person, and we're getting that data now. here is the message, and i feel like we have to go back to the

very people we're trying to protect, children, staff and educators. here's what they're all saying. look, we know nothing is perfect but we want measures that keep everyone safe. in spite of all these arguments, what is the evidence we have about being boosted? if you're eligible, get your booster. the second thing that can help keep everybody safe is air quality, masks as well as being able to eat outdoors when your masks are off, ventilation. i know children that are in new york city outdoors, 17 degrees, eating outdoors. one might say, isn't that terrible? i am going to tell you we are going to do what we can to keep schools open but do it in a safe way and protect the staff. the third thing, i'm just putting a plug in for this, is getting tests for the teachers and staff. they should not be scurrying on amazon to try to find tests. this can be helpful. you really can get more done if you have that testing layer available, but this is an area that we should be prioritizing

supply to. and finally, remember, if people tell you we don't have evidence for this, we don't have evidence for that, the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. so i think just because we don't have all this lovely data about omicron in children not being mild, being mild, we shouldn't assume these things right now. >> it's an important part. dr. kavita patel. thank you for being on the show this afternoon. appreciate it. up next, democrats get senator joe manchin on board with plans to pass a bill without gop support? it was no, then it was still no and now it's still no. we're going to talk to the manchin whisperer, mark warner, and what he thinks of the nickname. we have a top state department official with us live one on one. department official with us live one on one

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so you are looking live on the floor of the senate. that is majority leader chuck schumer on the floor right now. they are talking about reform

for election overhaul. president biden is giving a push on voter rights. the president plans to be forceful and direct and try to put this into context, what's at stake when it comes to voting rights. that, they hope, will pave the way for majority leader chuck schumer, who you just saw, to set up a vote that changes the way for votes to move forward. it's not going to go well unless the people on the right side of your screen, senator joe manchin and krysten sinema will do. president biden seems to be hoping with this speech tomorrow, they can kind of break the cycle. tell us what he's going to say and some more details what we learned this afternoon on that speech?

>> hallie, we'll have comments by president biden that he laid out a january 6 the seat of democracy. part two will be in atlanta where, according to the white house, biden will lay out exactly what he feels needs to be done to protect democracy and voting rights, specifically passing those two pieces of legislation, the john lewis voting rights advancement act and the freedom to vote act. jen psaki also saying the electoral count act, which is something the republicans have been discussing of late, which would really deal more with the procedure and logistics board to certify the election that that is not a substitution, not be considered an offramp to taking a more significant stance in voting rights. listen to jen psaki about the tone president biden will use tomorrow. >> he'll also describe this as one of the rare moments in the country's history when time stops and the essential is immediately ripped away from the

trivial, and that we have to make sure january 6 doesn't mark the end of democracy but the beginning of a renaissance for our democracy, where we stand up for a vote and have that vote counted fairly. >> psaki is also saying biden will speak very directly tomorrow about his support for changing the senate rules, for some type of carve-out to the filibuster, as you were just mentioning, hallie, for voting rights. but we have no intention for how they plan to make that happen. they said to biden, don't even bother coming to atlanta unless you have a plan on the table for actually how to get this done. as we mentioned, both sinema and manchin have been hesitant about changing the rules, and biden hasn't been able to articulate what he's going to do to change that map. that is what voting rights advocates want to hear from the president tomorrow in atlanta,

hallie. >> just about 24 hours from now, president biden in georgia. i'm joined by senator mark warner on the voting rights battle. >> good afternoon, hallie. >> i'm sure you're aware senator mitch mcconnell is going to war on this. his office sent out a note today featuring democrats, including yourself, who said they regretted changing the filibuster back in 2015. i know you said, i wish we wouldn't have started in a decade ago. talk to me now because you're in favor of changing the rules to get this done. why? >> i wish we hadn't started it a decade ago, because if we kept the bigger vote on supreme court judges, i'm not sure we would have gotten the three judges that donald trump put forward. going forward, while i don't want to turn the senate into the house, the idea that somehow protecting the rights of the minority in the senate, which would be no republicans at this

point, is more important than protecting the rights of minority voters, people of color and young people across the country in their basic exercise for democracy, their right to vote. i will change whatever rule to protect that right to vote. there were a whole host of us, more moderate than democrats, who over the last year have said when we have a republican leader who is not willing to take on anything about voting rights, or for that matter, about cam feign financial form and we've seen states cut back the rights to vote, or even some states place nonpartisan groups to certify votes with a partisan group. that goes way too far. whatever rules change that we could get the votes.

>> i hear you on that. like we talked about with josh letterman just a moment ago, joe manchin and krysten sinema may not agree with that. you have a new nickname, the manchin whisperer. senator manchin is a friend of yours. can you tell us other ways to get him on board? >> he is a friend of mine. my wife and his wife, we socialize together. listen, one thing about joe manchin is, he says what he believes. he is not trying to dissemble, he is fairly straightforward. the folks taking the lead are tim kaine, angus kester.

they have a lot more knowledge on voting rights than i do. anything i can help nudge or be an assist or give joe my independent analysis, i'm going to do that, but they are the three lead negotiators i'm looking towards. >> anything you can say that this time it would be different for senator manchin? are you getting an indication that maybe there is some daylight here, because one thing -- don't read anything into that, let's not start a twitter feed off of that, but in this job you have to remain hopeful. anything i can do to help my colleagues with senator sinema

and senator manchin. >> if you and i were talking friday about how these talks should end, what would you and i be saying? >> the best case would be that putin would find an off pd -- off position. there was a path for putin to teflt we'll get all of nato on the same side to make clear to russia that there will be severe

repercussions. i also hope the ukranian government realizes how important this is. i do worry at times whether the ukranian government itself is taking the imminency of this threat as serious as they should. >> is there a role for the senator? >> the senator should realize we are uniform in our condemnation of any aggressive reactions that we would take it would. i do not believe that we ought to undermine our president, in a sense, poke a stick in the eye of our german allies who have been one of the last major countries to fully come on

board. >> senator mark warner, democrat of virginia. senator, thank you for being back on the show. still ahead, russia has insist chld ---ed chlnized chae and make sure everything's in it's place. anything.

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. so is novak djokovic going to play in the australian open later this month? we still don't know. the tennis star says he wants to, he hopes to compete in the open. after a judge ruled today that he can stay in australia, but that win in the court may not transmit to a win on the court. that's because the australian minister has the power to cancel djokovic's visa and he says he's considering it. this is a lot, right? i feel like we've been talking about novak djokovic more in the last two weeks than i've talked about him in my life. what is the chance he plays in the australian open in a few

weeks? >> i wish i could cut right to the heart of your good question. i hate to say 50-50, but it resides in one man's hands, after all this drama, the circus, the debacle, the pepper spray in the street, it's in the hands of one person, the australian immigration minister, who can overrule the judge's ruling today and say, you know -- the decision today was really on the technicality. djokovic had not been given reasonable time to respond to these questions at 4:00 a.m. about why his documents were not in order. the immigration official, head of immigration tomorrow, they just ruled that it is not in the interest of australia to have an unvaccinated person of djokovic's background in country. we'll see. i'd hate to put money on it. >> we heard from some others, including rafael nadal about this. we're hearing other folks in the

tennis world and their reaction about this. i would think this could become an obstruction off the court, too. >> yes, for sure. i don't think everybody is thrilled being asked about it but it's not the first it's come up. it was just handled poorly and had become a circus. and for novak to say this is a circus is fairly shocking, so i think there is a measure of empathy for djokovic having been in the crosshairs of this, and in this hotel where he couldn't have all the amenities he's used to. that said, i think your average player says, look, it's your prerogative, we can gerlt.

you know, it's -- no one would dispute his right not to get the vaccine, but if it's a rule for everybody, it's a rule for everybody. sorry. >> does this mean we'll know next week when the open actually starts and djokovic is either there or he's not? >> no, they will rule tomorrow. i suspect if it's a yes, djokovic probably won't start on the first day of play given his strange preparations. probably tuesday he would play, i guess. >> liz clarke, it is great to have you on. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. just in this afternoon, kevin mccarthy says if he ends up taking controls, republicans do in the midterms. that's garrett haake but let me bring you into this discussion.

it was house minority plans if the gop takes the house in november. adam schiff and eric swalwell had their positions on the committee as well. garrett, are you still there? i saw your face pop up. >> i'm still here. >> they made these complaints about omar before. if you look at the house intelligence committee, adam schiff and eric swalwell. what's interesting is i think the top republican on that committee has declined to say if he would go for that if republicans were to take over. >> you've got kevin mccarthy in an interview with breitbart saying he wants to take the politics out of the intel committee. the way he would do that is to remove two democrats from that, both of whom have been thornz in

the side, shifted to the other side. democrats removed other members from the committee for threats of violence against other members, a specific standard that, for example, lauren bobert had not hit. they declined to take that step despite calls from the left side of her caucus to do so. here we have the now minority leader opining about what he might do as speaker, taking action against these members, he says, for what amounts to two purely political reasons, which would be another step down a very different direction for the u.s. house. >> nbc news senior on the hill, garrett haake.

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about rybelsus® today. back now to those talks between the u.s. and russia that we've been mentioning during the show. state department spokesperson ned price joins us now, spokesperson for the u.s. department of state. welcome to the show, ned. >> thanks for having me. >> russia did not escalate, they did not walk out. is that a win? >> it's too soon to tell. this is the start of a conversation with russia that will continue this week. it's part and parcel of what we've been saying for some time now. there are two paths for the russian federation. one is a path of dialogue that we believe could lead to de-escalation. the other is a path of defense and deterrence. just as we would very much prefer the former, we have spent

the better part of the last two months working with our allies and partners to make very clear to the russian federation that if they are not willing to engage in substantive diplomacy towards that end goal of de-escalation, we will be ready with a path of defense and deterrence. again, that is not something we want to pursue but it is something we are ready to pursue if we don't see the same sincere and steadfast commitment on the part of the russian federation to diplomacy. >> we know there are continuing talks this week, but was there any concrete commitment by russia to meet bilaterally again? >> hallie, let me make a couple of points. we go in expecting to reach any breakthroughs today. there is a foremost principle in our mind: nothing about them without them. not about nato without nato, nothing about europe without europe, nothing about ukraine

without ukraine. we have done more than 100 consultations with our european allies and partners including ukraine over the past couple of months for washington and moscow to put ideas on the table, to see if there are overlapping areas where we can both take reciprocal measures that would address our security concerns that we have with russia and that would take into account what we've heard from the russians about their purported security concerns when it comes to their own situation. so we will from today, the deputy secretary of state will travel to brussels tomorrow morning where she will meet with the european, she'll meet with nato, she'll meet with other allies and partners. there will be two other multilateral fora later this week. we do expect the russian federation and the united states will have the opportunity to plot out the next steps, determining when and how we should have bilateral

coordination in close consultation with our partners to determine if there is potential there for finding reciprocal measures that address our concerns and that take into account russia's own concerns. >> i hear you on the expectations and what you had anticipated coming out of this. i also hear that it sounds like you're saying no, there has not been a concrete agreement to meet bilaterally at the moment, that the secretary will be considering that when and how in consultation with allies. fair? >> we're focused first and foremost on ensuring we have a united front with our european allies and partners. that's the brunt of our work over the last two months. secretary brooklyn condition has meeting with the g7, meeting with the eu, on the phone constantly with our ukrainian partners. president biden has made more than 15 calls no his european counterparts, department of defense and others including the national security adviser have done the same. for us, this is the principle, to ensure we are working hand in glove with our allies and

partners. we've done that and will continue to do that including in week. >> on a call with reporters this afternoon we heard from of course the deputy secretary who said that there would be potential, and listen, ned, you've said this before, the white house has said this, enhancements of nato force posture on allied territory and increased security assistance to ukraine if there is an invasion. a couple of questions on that. would that assistance also go to ukrainian resistance or insurgents in addition to the ukrainian government? and big challenge, i have a minute left in show, nate, no pressure. >> that's a lot. so this goes back to the path of defense and deterrence i was speaking to earlier. we've spent the better part of the last two months speaking to our allies and partners about this. we've made very clear, the united states has, nato has, the eu has, the g7 has, and others have, that if moscow continues with an invasion of ukraine, moscow will face unprecedented economic and financial measures that would have profound

implications for the russian economy. but beyond that, we would provide additional defensive material above and beyond what we're already providing to ukraine. this year we've provided more assistance to ukraine since any year since 2014 when the russians last invaded ukraine. on beyond that, we'll take measures to reinforce the eastern flank of the nato alliance. we've made clear across multiple realms that together as an alliance, together with europe, together with our partners, there will be a very high price tag if russia goes forward. >> and on that issue, just yes or no, are you confident there is complete agreement between our allies as to what further aggression against ukraine would mean? >> yes, we're confident. we're united as an alliance, as a trans-atlantic community. that's how we're going to operate in the coming days ahead. >> state department spokesperson

ned price, come back, will you? >> absolutely. that does it for this hour of "hallie jackson reports." find us on twitter and our streaming platform, nbc news now. show number 2 starts in just an hour. "deadline white house" starts after this break. ine white hous after this break when you really need to sleep you reach for the really good stuff. new zzzquil ultra helps you sleep better and longer when you need it most. it's non habit forming and powered by the makers of nyquil. new zzzquil ultra. when you really really need to sleep.

hey, everyone, it's 4:00 in new york city. and it's 2022. i'm john heilemann in for nicolle wallace, just for today, though, at a pivotal moment in the january 6th investigation. there's a standoff brewing between the select committee and trump world that could determine the probe's next phase. the latest development centering on one jim jordan, republican congressman, gop attack dog, and of course top of the heap trump towed toady, a man so unfailingly loyal, he's believed to have spoken to the president