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and morally responsible for provoking the events of the day. >> republican leaders of the house and senate once again, get tonight's last words. the 11th hour, starts now. >> good evening i'm alicia menendez. day 359 of the day biden administration. exactly one year in one week after the january 6th insurrection the,. justice department is taking an unprecedented step in a sprawling criminal investigation. the department is charged, stewart, roads founder of the extremist group, the old keepers, and ten other members, with seditious conspiracy on the violent attack on the capitol. this is the first time prosecutors have filed sedition charges on any of the 700
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people accused, so far, in the siege. the indictment paints a picture of the members of alleged actions on january 6th. prosecutors describe the group stacked formation, as they marched up the east steps of the capital, and then entered the capital building, with the mob. they also detail how the accused -- organized and train for that day. the indictment also says, the oath keepers, again plotting just after election day, 2020, continue to do so after january six. the fbi arrested roads earlier in texas, today. he's scheduled to appear in court tomorrow. his attorney tells nbc news, i don't think the facts alleged support the charge of seditious conspiracy. rhodes was also attracted the attention of the january six committee, which subpoenaed him in november. today, a panel also issued a subpoena to the parent companies of google, reddit, twitter and facebook.
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the committee says it wants to know how the spread of misinformation in violent extremism on their platforms, may have contributed to the capitol riot. >> my sense, frankly from a document production of these companies, they're sharing with us where we already have, or what they think we already know. but, we know there's other material out there. we've lost it -- and we're now going to require them to provide. it >> tonight, alphabet, which owns google, says it has been actively cooperating with the panel. that, in for his policies with the -- ahead of the riot. meanwhile, the one six committee, now in a standoff with house republican leader, kevin mccarthy. he's refusing to cooperate with the committee's request for a voluntary interview, about his conversations with trump on january 6th. today, mccarthy was asked about, that and those comments he made about trump, shortly after the insurrection. >> you said that he should have immediately denounced the mob.
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and you also said that there was no evidence that what happened was started by antifa. wondering if you still stand by those comments. >> my criticism went to everyone on that day. why was the capitol so ill prepared that day. >> doesn't the american public have a right to know what the president of the united states was thinking in doing while the u.s. capital was under attack? >> that's a great question. you know the great thing about that, i don't wait a year later. on january 6th, i spoke to american public. not by one network, but by many networks. my conversation was very short, advising the president was happening here. there is nothing that i can provide the january six committee for legislation of the moving forward. there is nothing in that realm, it is pure politics with what they're playing. >> january six committee,
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chairman, benny thompson, says a possible subpoena to mccarthy is still under discussion. he says he's disappointed -- refusing to cooperate. >> he made public statements that president trump had some responsibility for what occurred. we have information that he made calls to the white house telling him he needed to call the people off. and for whatever reason he had decided not to come to the committee and say many things he said in public. >> as the select committee tries to get down to the effort of the people -- he stepping up his efforts to get voting rights legislation passed in the senate. tonight, he met with senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema at the white house, for more than an hour. the two democrats have been firmly opposed to weakening, or eliminating the filibuster, to
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pass those voting bills. earlier today, biden's on the hill, making an appeal to the full senate, democratic caucus, during closed-door lunch. biden emerged, sounded confident about the legislations faith. >> i hope we can get this done but, i'm not sure. one thing for certain, one thing for certain, like every other major civil rights bill that came along, if we missed the first time, we can come back and try a second time. the state legislative bodies continue to change the law, not of who can vote, but who gets to count the vote. count the vote. count the vote! it's about election subversion, not just whether or not people get to vote. who counts the vote! that's what this is about, that's what makes it so different than anything else we've ever done. i don't know that we get it
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done, but i know one thing, as long as i have a breath in me, as long as i'm in the white house, as long as i'm engaged at all, i'm going to be fighting to change the way these legislatures are moving. >> biden had been subbed would upstage just a couple hours before that lunch. with this -- arizona senator, sinema, took to the floor, and made it clear that she has no intention of tinkering with the filibuster. >> these bills help treat the symptoms of the disease, but they do not fully address the disease itself. while i continue to support these bills, i will not support separate actions that worse in the underlying disease of division, infecting our country. eliminating the 60 vote threshold will simply guarantee that we lose a critical tool, we need to safeguard our democracy from threats from used. to come >> the house has already passed the voting bills,
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it's now to the senate. tonight, democratic leader, chuck schumer said, he hoped to hold a vote by monday with hawaii senator, brian schatz, not positive for covid in unexpected winter stew. that'll be postponed till tuesday. president meanwhile, -- that already fell to get to the senate. nbc news reports, he's planning to sign executive actions on police reform as early as this month. this was also the day but the supreme court blocked biden's covid vaccine or testing mandate for large employers. it's a major blow to the administration's plan to end the pandemic. the court did uphold a more modest mandate that requires health care workers, at federally funded facilities, to be vaccinated. biden says, he'll continue to urge private companies to create their own vaccine requirements. with that let's bring our lead off, guest courtney super mania, white house course -- thank for bluesy, fbi assistant director for counter
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intelligence. he's author of the book, the fbi way, and the host of the podcast, the bureau. barbara mcquade, veteran federal prosecutor, and former -- for the eastern district of michigan. she worked for the doj, during the biden transmission, and as a professor at the university law school. barbara, i want to read a section of this indictment of oath keepers -- quote, they coordinated travel across the country to enter washington, d.c., equipped themselves with a variety of weapons, dawned combat in tactical gear, and we're prepared -- to take alarms arrows direction. some coconspirators also amassed firearms on the outskirts of washington, d.c., distributed them among quick reaction force teams, and plan to use the firearms in support of their plot to stop the lawful transfer of presidential power. barbara, how big of a deal of is this indictment? >> it's a very big deal,
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alicia. whenever the justice department charges seditious conspiracy, it's never one very where. number two, it's reviewed at the highest levels of the justice department, because it brings with it, not just an allegation of conspiracy to commit a crime, but to do so, one that is very disloyal to our country, by attacking the authority of the united states. one of the other significant factors of this particular indictment, is the detailed allegations, the 48 pages, a quotes verbatim, from text messages that were believed to have been encrypted, communicating back and forth to each other. it demonstrates that this was not an organic attack, where some people got carried away with a rally and ended up going inside the capitol. this was planned for many months, people came from all over the country. they masked weapons, and this was a design plot to prevent the peaceful transfer of power. >> barbara, even with all that information, even with all that, evidence would challenges our federal prosecutors up against, now? >> well, in a case like this,
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it is challenging. as i said, i've charges offense before. it was a case that ultimately failed. people are naturally skeptical of something that charges sedition. is suggest an overthrow of the government. it's just a coup. if you look at the elements at the statue itself, would it actually says, is using force to oppose authorities of united states. by trying to prevent that blow by going forward, that sufficient here. i think it'll be a strong. case >> frank, two questions for you. one, what strikes you most about these charges? and to, do you think we can see other militia groups charged? >> so, first, as we're all talking about today, this is historically significant. they had to score in the face. you have to look back to the mid 1990s for the last successful charge of seditious conspiracy. that was used against an international chair terrorist, so, yes, i do think what's going to happen here is, because the government is inside encrypted
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communications. because we have 11 people facing up to 20 years in federal prison, there is going to be some breakage. somebody is going to talk. even if they don't, the government clearly is into their encrypted communication. it looks like there's either -- electronic breakthroughs. don't be surprised if we see the early reporting that's already occurred -- there looks like this communication, between oath keepers, proud boys, three percenters. don't be surprised if this spreads across those three groups, and we see future charges of seditious conspiracy, involving these groups. look, as you read through this indictment, one of the things that pops out to me is, who was funding these people? you have tens of thousands of dollars in weaponry. night vision goggles, top-of-the-line scopes on rifles, radios, body armor, bullet resistance plates for your vest. very expensive stuff.
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where is that money coming from? rest are sure, the bureau is going to continue to look at that. >> courtney, last week the attorney general gave a speech defending his handling of the criminal cases. some who have been urging him to move faster, to move more aggressively, may see this is vindication for him. are there political risks for doj, and for the white house? >> yes, absolutely. of course is there's political risk. i think, the white house has been very careful to separate itself from the doj, and it's pursued criminal charges for the january six investigation. that's because we saw on the last administration, the doj heavily politicized, and used for moore president trump's personal vindication's, personal decisions.
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so, we certainly have seen the white house really tried to separate itself from the a.g., and his pursuit of charges. >> frank, you are talking about the gear we also know that they had strategies, we know they had a game plan. what are we learning about these militia groups, and who it is that's joining them? >> well, what's most disturbing and sobering, alicia, is that they're coming largely from the ranks of former military, former police, and even some active duty. we already know that one out of ten of the defendants arrested for the violence on january six, has a military affiliation. we know that what oath keepers is about. there's so much, more because really, they came to be immediately -- they seem to be spurred on by the fact that we now had her first black, u.s. president. they thought the world was crashing down on them. they planted the flag in a
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ceremony in lexington, massachusetts. very fun symbolic. that's where they're from. it's really a lot of hate based, white supremacy crossover. let's save western civilization. which really means white culture. there's a crossover, here, on the belief systems. roads, himself, former u.s. army paratrooper, lost his bar license, had gone to a law school. he sees himself as some kind of historical figure, here. he's going to be hard to break. i predict those other folks will eventually start talking >> i want to start talking about -- not only does frank say he might be hard to break, it is something to sensibly has -- of the law and argue that he's always been on the right side of it, to what extent does his own legal background and legal training now become an asset or liability well, it could be? a liability. if you're charged with a crime,
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sometimes people will claim that they don't know something. it's much harder for someone who has a law degree. but in cases like this, it's not necessary that you know a lot, it's necessary you know what you're doing. and attacking the u.s. government is something -- i don't know if it's gonna much matter here. i do think that he who cooperates with others, there is a lot of information that is potentially to be tap there. as they said, who funded all of this? -- we need to know who was with him on january 5th. where they connected anyway to the war room at the willard hotel? and part of the overall strategy to prevent the transfer of power to joe biden? can these folks be leverage to get to someone higher in the chain? >> i also want to ask you about the january six committee. -- what do they have to consider? now >> really they only have to
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consider whether they want to subpoena one of their own. it is unprecedented. it could come back to bite them down the road when the powers have changed. i think in a case reich this where they've been a very good job in the letters that they've made public, explaining why they are seeking information from people. kevin mccarthy wants to minimize this. it isn't what he said, it's what trump said back to him that they care about. what is the mindset of donald trump as he's sitting there? and something that caused the death of five people. the information is actually permanent. i see it well within the rights. ice don't see any other avenues he would have other than the fifth amendment. he may do it others have done which is run out of the clock, and hope that this committee disbands. >> it would've been a busy news day already, you layered on the fact that the both the bills
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are true in trouble tonight. him and manchin today were over in there for a chat. they said that they had respectful views and exchanges about voting rights. what other things are you hearing from the white house and where they go from here? >> yes, i think they were on full display. manchin and senator in the white house. i don't know -- given that sinema articulated, as you mention, and while she reforms election reform bill's, she -- which means that democrats don't have the votes to change the senate rules. this is the only way that they're going to pass voting rights legislation. biden's response today after being on capitol hill, was a primly similar need about where we stand. he said we missed it this time. speaking about voting rights in past tense. at one point saying, in honesty got answers, i don't know when
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we're gonna get this done. when the secretary was asked on where he is today, we also asked white house officials what is his plan b now that changing the filibuster rules appears to be doomed as a strategy. he said, they're going to keep at it. that this legislation comes with its ups and downs, that sometimes we don't know where we go from here and what comes next but then we continue to work with engaging colleagues. i think what this underscores is that we've certainly decided to start the new years in taking our stand against republicans. today was a painful reminder that he's also still fighting members of his own party. the -- this is the second time, in a month, that the lone senator has sunk his legislative plan. that's the political reality of
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his margins in congress right now and what he has to do with in order to get things done. as he said, the -- especially of it's frustrating a lot of democrats. particularly on an issue like voting rights that is so critical ahead of november. >> we'll talk about that issue a little later in the show, but before we go, i want to ask you, six support justices have blocked this -- can you tell us about the reason about this in the middle of a pandemic? >> well, what's the majority says, is that osha has overplayed its hand in the rules a gets to implement. so congress delegates some power to osha, osha can protect workers from -- what the majority says, is that in the corridor -- covid is not a hazard of the workplace it's a hazard everywhere. instead, you have to work at
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what's specifically they have in the workplace. and osha has overstepped its limits. and we're gonna block this law. the lawsuit does continue and we may see a different result, but for now it's blocked. and initially, when they pointed out over regulations which has done in the past, which are general positions as well. which is like safe drinking water, and other kinds of things that appear in the workplace and elsewhere. they accuse the majority of reading in the rules, words that are not there. for tech stress, we're creating an additional layer that's not there. there has to being meaning to the workplace. the majority of the votes that we have, and a majority today, the role was blocked from being implemented. better news from my perspective on the health care friends, what they did allowed to stand, a similar rule there applies for health care workers in
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facilities that are funded by medicaid or medicare. >> i appreciate that. thank you all. coming up, how those bombshells charges of sedition are causing shockwaves in washington. what will that mean for the overly wobbling balance of power. and later as congressman pointed out this afternoon, we've lost the war against covid. and what the top doctors are saying the government to do now. the 11th hour just getting away, on thursday night. getting away, on thursday night.
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his pitch for voting rights, directly to the two democrats, members of his own party responsible for holding up his agenda. joe manchin and kyrsten sinema oppose changing the filibuster to pass legislation. -- with us tonight donna edwards,
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a former member of congress and bill kristol, writer, who is a member of -- donna, biden doing a full court press on manchin and sinema. any chance he can persuade them? >> well, it sounded like the nail was in the coffin with the statement of senator sinema on the floor of the senate today. of course, hearing the comments of manchin and sinema in their latest statements, it does seem that these two senators are determined to stand in the way of the changes to the filibuster that would be required to voting rights. i think it's actually rather shameful. whether it's going to calm democrats down down the line, i think -- 18 states that have has something like 13 bills already,
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curtailing voiding writes. i don't think this is something that could wait but unfortunately these two senators are supporting only a smidgen of voters are standing in the way of this bill that will protect voting rights. >> i do want to remind our viewers that there are republicans who could come to the table on this. jonathan shea writes this in -- in biden's address in a glance. asha romney speaks for an important faction of republican elites who may abhor trump's naked oruthority isn't-ism -- but also believe fervently in their polity's a policy for -- romney's position holds a pivotal point in the u.s. senate. anti trump, pro-voter suppression republicans like him are the key to passing any voting rights bill. do you agree? where do the romney's of the senate following this debate? >> unfortunately, from my point
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of view, they don't fall in the -- they might be rallied to support some changes at least in the electoral count act. i think that's possible. the democrats might have done more for push them for that, i think in the past year. but as they said, and as you just read, the support as you support -- whether there's a chance of progress, the white house statement tonight, which is what i think came out 20 minutes ago, after the meeting with biden and manchin and sinema, it's pretty startling that we've been having these kinds of meetings for a while, i guess decades, and it always leads to a warm discussion in the exchange of views and progress. there was nothing of that. the statements that they provided after that were very chilling. it was a candid, i can't
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remember what it said, there was an honest an exchange of views this i think is what is well said. there was no honest exchange of views. the weather the president respects senator manchin and senator sinema, it's come to a dead at this. point >> if they did come to that end, where does that lead democrats? >> i think it puts democrats in a really important position. the changes around the voting rights were to deal with decisions that were handed down by the supreme court, particularly about clearance in some of those states that substance historically had the problems with black voters and ensuring the right to vote. the other changes were like ensuring that mail-in ballots were valid, and, and making election day a
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holiday. really simple things. they couldn't get it done, and i think it hurts the morally because it is the moral thing to do. but it also hurts politically, because a lot of voters, with all these laws coming down, are going to be -- their votes will be suppressed. there will be barriers in front of them when it comes to voting in the midterm elections and certainly in the presidential election in 24. >> bill turning to you, for the january six investigation, they had this to say, take a listen. >> i'm a serious as an heart attack. seditious conspiracy is one step down from absolute treason. if you look at the statute, it's about the violent overthrow of the government. it is levying war against the government. there is nothing more serious than that. i applaud the doj for doing that. >> bill, what message does this change that. i think your people panel discuss as well. it's a serious charge,
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obviously. it suggested they have a lot of inflation in the justice department, and they may be already to charge others. i was more struck, today, i gotta say though, but what we are learning in rachel maddow's reporting. about the electors, the fraudulent stated statements by electors, certifications -- that letter sent into the national archives. the defeated trump electors saying, were certified the arizona's votes, michigan votes. in a way, it's ridiculous. if you have a plot in which, the vice president is going to sit there on january 6th, and this was jumps and tension -- who was trump's guy, who they thought of him moving up -- the plot was that prince was saying, we can't know who won arizona, because there are two competing sides of electors. we have to discard the arizona votes, in either throw that into the house, or make it so confusing that it -- that was the plot. this was part of the plot. these were identical, forged
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documents from different states, there must have been coordination. seems the white house knew about it, seems like jeffrey rosen knew about. it they're clearly going to pull this string now, against -- the justice department does, we have a serious plot with elected officials involved a fraudulent documents to allow for the ignoring of election returns and some version of our election. that may end up being worse than the oath keepers. >> we'll continue to follow that. donovan and bill are staying with me. another example of the hold the former president still has on the republican party, when the 11th hour could do news.
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can senator mcconnell effectively work with the leader of the republican party, donald trump? i'm not going to vote for anybody that can have a working relationship with president trump, to be a team, to come up with an american first agenda. >> just some of what we heard from senator lindsey graham, last. night as he threatened to withhold his leadership vote for mitch mcconnell, if the minority leader doesn't have the, quote, working relationship with the former president. earlier today graham was asked about his comments. >> mitch mcconnell has been one of the best leaders in my lifetime. he worked with president trump to get the court full of conservative judges pass the tax cuts, pretty much by
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ourselves. but, the elections,, they're about the future not the past. you have to have a working relationship with trump. you don't have to agree with him, but -- if you want to be a senate leader or house leader -- no matter who you are mitch or anybody else i think you have to show it to us that you can work with president trump. >> still with us, donna edwards, and bill crystal. donna, your reaction to those comments. >> well i think mitch mcconnell has done plenty to protect donald trump. he protected him into impeachments. he put forward the tax cut that senator graham talked about. he's made sure to block the independent commission on january 6th. i think mitch mcconnell has done a fair amount to protect donald trump, and the trump agenda. unfortunately, for all of the
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rest of us, we have to suffer the consequences. >> so, bill, i'm sure you like to opine on that relationship. i will give you the space in the time to do that, but i want to bring in another element into this conversation. you have the rnc threatening to bar its candidates from participating in debates, sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. the washington post reports, quote, during the 2020, cycle then president donald trump complained vociferously about the commission, at one point tweeting that it was stacked with trumpeters, and never trumpers. bill, what do you think could future debates be in trouble? >> sure. this is donald trump's party. -- it wasn't just the wish of lindsey graham, is it was a true fact, as of now. if donald trump things will be the nominee in 2024, he doesn't want to debate under the presidential commissions debate rules, laying the groundwork early, it does show something
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that trump people are not happy as half a hazard. they're laying the groundwork for getting out of the debates, already, here in 2022. i think from their point of view, it's pretty intelligent. lindsey graham, says you, know if you told me a year ago, that liz cheney will not be the leadership of the -- in criticize donald trump, i would've said, come on. she's been elected by your peers, she's not going to -- i think what you have to take what lindsey graham saying seriously. is it possible that senate republicans have 52, or something like, that next year. that 27 of them will want to go from lindsey graham, or somebody who will have a better working relationship with donald trump. who, as donna, says mcconnell is on the key things that he shouldn't have done, but did do to protect trump. but, he doesn't have any more personal relationship with. the trump wants a more compliant, more obedient leader than will connally. he might get. i'm >> donna, i take bills
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point, but perhaps there is more planning on the part of trump, we are all looking forward to another run in his lack of desire to participate in those debates. at the same time, if republicans doubt our institutions, and our norms, is the way to come back from that? where does that leave democrats, if they knew they were playing on asymmetric playing field? but, this just adds an element to the asymmetry. >> when i listen to senator sinema today, one of the things she talked about in defending the filibuster, was that somehow the filibuster protected this unity and bipartisanship. in fact, there's been a devolution of that. this move, now, about withdrawing from the debates, sponsored by the debate commission, i think is illustrative of that. i think, democrats have to go in eyes wide open, and ready to fight for these elections across the country. the trump party, look at what
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they're doing, terms of running people from secretary to state. ensuring that elections boards comprised trump sympathizers. they're doing a lot of stuff strategically to invade the infrastructure, to protect a vote, for a potential trump -- running for president. democrats have a lot of work to do to play catch up to this game that they are playing, to take the election. >> none of this is normal. let's do need a reminder. donna edwards, bill kristol, thank you both. coming, up we'll talk to dr. khalid patel about what else the government can do to fight the pandemic, after the supreme court blocked the supreme court's mandate for businesses. when the 11th hour continues. mom mo
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no different from day-to-day dangers that they face. although congress has indisputably given osha the power to regulate occupational dangers, it is not been given the agency the power to -- >> former senior policy aide towards -- she is a fellow at brookings, and one of our public health experts. good to see you. the white house ordered this vaccine mandate to save lives, does this ruling mean more unnecessary deaths? >> unfortunately it does but the administration does have some options. i think you heard the president say to pull all the levers possible to get people vaccinated. i think it's the right thing to do, especially think when you think about the surge. to prevent deaths from the next weeks to months was likely. >> could you walk us through what those numbers look? like >> yes, there are a
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handful of things that you can see is a victory in the other decision that the supreme court prevailed upon and mandatory vaccines for health care workers. and the department for -- had clear authority for the -- things you can extend that, and look at the more narrow focus errors where discreet workers like meatpacking, to other essential workers, and things can be still done for them. and a number of these things can still be discussed. doctor fauci has the travel vaccine mandate. and also, looking how insurance premiums can be discounted, that has been explored and tried and other areas, and it's been shown in smoking and other behaviors. you can show -- and protecting its consumers, all of us as consumers, there
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is should be transparency in the business you enter. the amount of -- there is still room and the impression is how did not to get distracted so you focus on -- and not just these court controversies. >> some of the experts say that there is signs that omicron has peaked in some areas? do you agree? >> yes, we're seeing areas, we're seeing places that have declined. we're using's sustained declines. i mentioned earlier, it looks positive in new york east. however, even in that decline, we're still seeing hundreds of thousands of cases. that's not good news because it does have possible hospitalizations. i don't want people to take a peek at a sign that they can just become complacent. >> the president's purchasing
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another 500 million covid tests in addition to the ones that they already have. is that gonna solve the testing issue in this? country >> it's not gonna solve the testing issue that we have today, where people are trying to see scam websites and companies. i want to remind people you can't test out of covid. the biden administration guaranteeing these tests is the right thing to do. we're gonna need these tests, not necessarily just today, but we're gonna have to incorporate how these tests can help us moving forward to resume normal life. >> will you talk about that eye to the future. is this the last variance that we need to worry? about is this the last series where he ends, or is there more on the horizon? >> so i mean to be very kind of blunt. this is not the last variant. this is not how viruses work. i'm hoping this is the last variance that causes such
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destruction to the life in the economy. but we need to focus in the future, on depending on -- disease. i do think that this will not be our last variant. certainly i hope that we are getting enough vaccines around the world so that we have as much defense as possible for the next varthis is through tes, therapeutics, and focusing on how people can get their first shots, as well as any up to date other shots when we need them. >> and that's why we rely on you. you made a reference on incentives for people to get the vaccine. quebec actually opposed a vaccine tax on people that rushed vaccine appointments this week. is that something that we need to see? >> will something like. that we actually have to make -- along the last three decades to not impose any sort of penalties based on health status. we wouldn't want to see it
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unintended li used, like for women on reproductive rights. this is something very cautious for people. but the main thing, to offer people discounts -- we've tried incentives in our country already, remember the lottery and free checks. it hasn't worked so far. that's why these new mandates have come into the forefront. the possibility, and we are making sure that health care workers are vaccinated, and that they're required to. >> lotteries and free checks. we're living in dangerous times. thank you. >> coming up, he was born his royal highness but that is no longer the case. the 11th hour continues. e 11th hour continues.
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news about the royals on the 11th hour, but today the queen stripped her own son andrew of
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the military titles and abilities. this came after the princes lawyers were unable to get the lawsuit accusing him of sexual salt dismissed. joining me now is senior international correspondent kirsten in london. >> tonight's humiliation for the queen second sign. royal subtle jurors confirmed to nbc news he will no longer be come his royal highness. a title he was born with. with the queen's approval and agreement, the duke of york's military affiliations and royal patronage's have been returned to the queen. the statement ending he is defending this case as a private citizen. she is suing prince andrew for allege set shoal salt when she was 17. she says she was trafficked by the princes friend, jeffrey epstein. >> it was a very scary time in my life. i had just been abused by a
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member of the royal family. >> the allegations continue in -- he says he does not can remember hit this photograph between jeffrey and maxwell, who is on trial for sexual assault charges. >> i have no recollection of seeing this lady. >> this despite the palace announcements, it comes the day after a judge -- prevented this from being thrown out. this was the day the queen wanted to avoid, but they believe that the damage to the royal family is too much. a source close to prince andrew says, he will continue to defend himself, but it looks like he will have to do so alone. >> pierce amends in london, thank you. there is more an hour ahead, right after this. ahead, supplement with vitamin c and b
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a look at the empire state building, honoring the today show. 70 years on the air. that is our broadcast for this thursday night, with our thanks to you for being with us. on behalf of all of my colleagues of the networks of nbc news, goodnight. >> tonight on all in. >> the justice department remains committed to holding all january 6th perpetrators, at any level, accountable under law. >> the department of justice finally moved up the magoo chain. >> we will follow the facts, wherever they lead. >> tonight, jaw-dropping details in the seditious conspiracy charges, for right-wing extremist leader. what those charges mean for other trump world figures. then, another big day for the
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january six committee. i'll talk to adam schiff about today's new subpoenas, as liz cheney calls out kevin mccarthy for engaging in -- plus, ted cruz attempts to redeem himself for fox news conspiracy theories. yet, another -- investigation. the supreme court's shopping opinion, the deadly pandemic is not a occupational hansard. all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes. the charges filed today, against the platter of the january 6th insurrection were not only the most serious we've seen, they're also the most descriptive of actions for all who took part in the events, up to an around that day. seditious conspiracy, that's the charge. today, a man named elmer stewart roads the third, working class hero, became the first to be arrested in charge of the seditious conspiracy, in indictment unsealed with the department justice.

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